Torghast Updated with Torments, A Soft Timer That Incentivizes Speed on Each Floor

Shadowlands Posted 2020/05/13 at 7:19 PM by Squishei

Soft Timer and Break RoomsTowelliee's interview with Paul KubitShroudedList of Torments

Torment: Might of the Upper Reaches The might of the Upper Reaches increases Physical damage taken by the target by 1% every 60 sec. This effect stacks.

Torment: Mort'regar's Echoes Remnants of Mort'regar increase magic damage taken by the target by 1% every 60 sec. This effect stacks.

Torment: Breath of Coldheart The breath of the Coldheart Interstitia decreases the target's damage done by 1% every 120 sec. This effect stacks.

Torment: Fracturing Forces The Fracture Chambers seeks out new prey, calling forth a Mawsworn Shadestalker every 30 sec while the target is not in combat. These minions have 20% increased health. This effect stacks.

Torment: Eye of Skoldus Skoldus' Eye is upon the target, calling forth Mawsworn Seekers every 45 sec while the target is not in combat. These minions have 10% increased health. This effect stacks.

Torment: Soulforge Heat Oppressive heat from the Soulforges inflicts 1% of the target's maximum health in Fire damage every 5 sec. This effect stacks.

Torment: Mort'regar's Echoes and Metal Spike DetailsTorment: Mort'regar's EchoesMetal SpikeTorment: Breath of Coldheart DetailsTorment: Breath of ColdheartTorment: Soulforge Heat DetailsTorment: Soulforge HeatTorment: Eye of Skoldus and Torment: Fracturing Forces DetailsTorment: Eye of SkoldusTorment: Fracturing Forces

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Comment by RixvenThese need some serious testing and tuning.

How about letting MORE people in to test.Comment by AlakeiThancanHum ... Please no.Comment by GoonygoonWhelp, so much for Torghast... Right to the crap heap.Comment by SteehlI was excited to be able to do solo content as a healer, but I guess these soft timers on clearing floors will make that a lot less possible.Comment by ZeecroGamingGive it a chance lolComment by DarkraiftwFeel like they initially said they want players to take their time in Torghast, to explore and really embrace the tower. Now it seems they're going back on that statement, trying to rush players through at later levels?Comment by ArchimtirosFeel like they initially said they want players to take their time in Torghast, to explore and really embrace the tower. Now it seems they're going back on that statement, trying to rush players through at later levels?Comment by GrengarmI was excited for Torghast. Now I think I might skip the expansion altogether. This will be fairly mandatory given this is how you get legendaries, and now Blizzard is turning it into yet another speed run after Mythic+, Island Expeditions, and Visions. Why do we need this level of stress? Let people spend 48 hours straight in this thing if they want to. What happened to exploration and discovery instead of rush rush rush?Comment by ChioyIt is actually bad... Blizzard keeps forgetting the game is supposed to be fun and now it will make us feel the breath of pressure on our backs and it doesn't matter if it's a soft timer or hardComment by byneTorghast was looking so good, I just knew they'd find a way to ruin it.

I main a tank, Blizz. Timers are just a great way of telling me to go !@#$ myself.Comment by Degnoit won't be a speedrun as some people are saying, sure it's alpha, but the post does say that we will have safe zones at the beginning of each floor where nothing will happen, no soft timer, nothing, where you'll be able to afk etc.
And you can also just afk once you've cleared a floor, since the debuffs won't affect anything since nothing needs killing, you can just wait and take the portal when you're ready to go on.Comment by DraenilFundamentally a good idea, but absolutely need tuning. People will sit to wait for CDs if it means they can push as far as possible. That's degenerate as hell. Also I think the timer should only count when you're not in combat. Feels like they going to make Torghast harder for specs that already struggle with it.Comment by Astratosit won't be a speedrun as some people are saying, sure it's alpha, but the post does say that we will have safe zones at the beginning of each floor where nothing will happen, no soft timer, nothing, where you'll be able to afk etc.
And you can also just afk once you've cleared a floor, since the debuffs won't affect anything since nothing needs killing, you can just wait and take the portal when you're ready to go on.Comment by LedxLol at people already coming to conclusions based on this post. You dont even know how often you will get these debuffs or after how long. Waiting for bloodlust before every pack is not fun either, so there must be some measure, but Im certain this does not mean you have to speedrun each floor like you do in visions. Its called soft timer for a reason, not straight up countdown like m+ or visions.Comment by AzraelUltimaFundamentally a good idea, but absolutely need tuning. People will sit to wait for CDs if it means they can push as far as possible. That's degenerate as hell. Also I think the timer should only count when you're not in combat. Feels like they going to make Torghast harder for specs that already struggle with it.Comment by hulduSo let me get this straight the higher your item level/better geared you are the farther you can go? Which means people rolling through high keys and mythic raiding will have a serious advantage in there vs everyone else. It's not like THEY need the gear in the first place... who is even designing this content? Don't even get me started on the poor class balancing which we know for sure will be a thing. I can already picture demon hunters facerolling that place.Comment by AzraelUltimaSo let me get this straight the higher your item level/better geared you are the farther you can go? Which means people rolling through high keys and mythic raiding will have a serious advantage in there vs everyone else. It's not like THEY need the gear in the first place... who is even designing this content?Comment by noblesc3I think its best we compare Torghast more to modes that are more similar to it and not look at everything through a limited scope of what we've experienced with past experiences in WoW. I think the best example of this type of content is Risk of Rain 2. That game also has a soft timer where the current diffulculty is a function of the floor AND time. However, RoR2 also has its good bit of exploring, its not just a mad rush. I think the introduction of a timer is overall healthier for the gamemode and can add some needed incentive to keep moving, but not feel pressured to rushComment by thatmikeguySo it's crap now. It's not possible for them to balance it, that's what the alpha is showing. This makes it worse, but I guess they just figured out how many people would be in that instance server if it were no timer. $$

Is there any other content in SL that's new outside if this tower?Comment by UnowhatThis is alpha, if people don't like it then it'll get scrapped. This isn't the Beta phase where it's too late to do anything about it and we have a long time until the release date. So don't jump to conclusions all because of this one change.

Honestly, we don't know why they put stuff like this in. Maybe to incentivize people to group up more in Torghast especially for clothies (who are struggling in this alpha so far especially Shadow Priests), but that isn't a good incentive. A good incentive would be like 5% increase in phantasm for each person you have in your party.

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