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Comentado por gotler

This is interesting, as at the moment CnD adds the most damage of any finisher, but with this you potentially only have to cast it once per fight. With this talent rogues will probably just make sure to keep up rupture and then use eviscerate and envenom depending on which suits the fight best.

Comentado por 172532

It would be VERY lucky to keep this up, since it requires a crit, not just it hitting.

Comentado por 180962

This talent has alot of Synergy with "Turn the Tables" in parties and raids, 6% more crit on combo moves.

Comentado por Deathadder99

EJ have proved that this talent isn't worth it - elitistjerks.com/blogs/vulajin/190-cut_chase.html
Sorry, Wowhead seem to link it to within Wowhead only so i cant make a link...

Edit: Now they've changed it it is well worth it.

Comentado por 33153

As of Sept 5 (Build 8905), this now only requires HITTING with envenom or evis to refresh your SnD. This is a huge buff and probably makes mutilate one of the best raiding specs come wotlk

1 question though, does imp SnD effect this? I'm assuming yes

Comentado por 56833

Improved Slice and Dice will very likely affect this talent, considering the wording in the tooltip. It makes a point of refreshing your Slice and Dice to it's 5 combo point maximum, not just to 21 seconds.

However, I'm wondering if improved Slice and Dice will be required with this one.

Comentado por 176259

One very important thing about this talent is that it really does REFRESH slice and dice. This means that if you don't have slice and dice already up, there is nothing to refresh, and nothing will happen.

Comentado por 1771

lol it get nerfed buffed and it figures its even more nerfed.

this ability is no match for slaughter from the shadows.

Comentado por 208103

I can see Ambush -> SnD -> Mutilate -> Envenom being very nice abilities to start with using this talent.

Comentado por RobertM

For what it's worth, I just did a test of using Envenom and Eviscerate to keep S&D up with CttC.

Here are my results (from Recount): http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roguelevel70cttctest200yk3.jpg

Here's my current (less than ideal) spec: https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/talent=fhef0eLoV0oIuVo0gzZ0b

Comentado por Pachirisuneytor

Does this also refresh the previously refreshed SnD ?
Like, use 1 cp SnD,-> Eviscerate, and when SnD is about to end -> Evsicerate again and it will refresh again ?

Comentado por 453636

Just made a mut/envenom/shiv spec (65 currently, so tryna work w/out shiv) and I took this talent. Testing on a training dummy, I can see it's clear to do my damndest to use this to keep SnD up. But I run into a problem along the line: Mut costs a lot of energy. if I'm down to 7 energy with no CP's up and my SnD is about to dissapate, my 1st reaction is to mut, then envenom as this talent will put it back up to 20 secs for me. The issue is sometimes SnD will fade before I can do that. I can't reduce the cost of envenom OR evis, so I've got to get that CP I need faster.

So my question is: why wait on the high energy cost of mut when I only need 1 CP, not the 2 it provides?

The answer is a fast-azz OH dagg, optimally 1.4 or so, and shiv for 34 energy. Given that I went envenom over evis, it works hand-in-hand with what I've built on along the way, since it instantly applies OH poison.

So my roguetation turns into something like stealth, ambush, SnD, shiv, envenom, etc. however not yet 70, I'm using SS in place of shiv to get the CP I'm looking for if ruthlessness doesn't proc it for me. Good stuff =)

To give a bit of insight on how this talent looks like, https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/talent#f0efRcgoiMohuqZ0xV0xZxz (again, I'm still only 65 so I don't have those 15 points from the combat tree YET, but will eventually)

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Your Eviscerate and Envenom abilities have a 100% chance to refresh your Slice and Dice duration to its 5 combo point maximum.

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n/d

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n/d

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n/d

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Nenhum

Alcance

0 metros (Self)

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Instantâneo

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n/d

GCD

0 segundos

Chance de proc de aura

100%

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Apply Aura: Dummy (22)
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
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Garrote	Ruptura	Garrote
Garrote	Garrote	Ruptura
Ruptura	Ruptura	Ruptura
Ruptura	Garrote	Garrote
Garrote	Ruptura	Garrote
Ruptura	Ruptura	Garrote
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