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LOL

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lolz where'd this crazy idea come from?

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There were a lot of interesting-sounding engineering items that appeared in the Burning Crusade beta but didn't make it to the release. This and the probably similar Goblin Radio were among them.

I don't really know what this did, but the guess I have is that there are periodic broadcasts from Toshley's Station that only people with this gadget can hear. These could simply be entertaining, or they could even be useful:

"This just in: Maggoc, Son of Gruul sighted north of Toshley's Station! Give him a wide berth, as he is very strong and has a violent temper! Let's hope he goes away soon!"

"News bulletin from Nagrand: Halaa is now controlled by the Alliance!"

"In other news, the Horde has captured both spires in Zangarmarsh!"

and so forth. Or Blizzard might have actual music that you can listen to on your radio. I doubt it would allow interfaction communication, because Blizzard has said many times that they don't want communication to be possible between Alliance and Horde.

Anyway, we can hope that this and other interesting-sounding engineering gadgets (maybe the Remote Mail Terminal!) will arrive in an upcoming patch -- perhaps, like the Black Temple, they were judged not ready for release with the expansion and held back until they were finished. It is known that there is a review of engineering coming up, so perhaps then.

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good thought gemminie, an item like that whould be #1 for use in outland and hopefully for the folks back home in azeroth :P

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ive seen this along time ago ! i wanted it it played a song in If this guy placed it down and everyone was dancing

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what does the thing doo?

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Gnomish H.uman A.gainst M.onsters radio..? what is tis, rUNESCAPE?

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Gnomish Havoc And Mayhem Radio actually :)Anyone else remember this from beta? Twas fun indeed!

Comentado por Allakhazam

This item doesn't exist I don't even know why these "unknown Item" things are here they don't exist or were taken out in beta.

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Here's my guess at what the Ham Radio will do or if I am wrong, what it SHOULD do. It honestly can't be better than this. Here we go.

1) LEAST LIKELY: In some instances or zones, maybe anywhere, you will be able to talk to other Ham Radio-toting members of the opposing faction, through whispers or a similar system. Maybe using a limited or primitive language/set of emotes. Why? I dunno...why does Blizzard's in-game mail take an hour for delivery, and then magically becomes an instant process when the recipient clicks 'return.' Blizzard does dumb things.

2) THIS ONE'S ON THE MONEY: Perhaps you cannot communicate with the enemy. Maybe the Ham is for espionage; to tap into the enemies' communication channels (whispers/raid/party or some new, crazy channel that won't work for the first month) when the enemy is in close enough proximity and/or the weather permits (see the previous post about clouds and Ham Radio signal-boosting).

Ok now stay with me on this one. It gets a little off WoW but then comes right back and makes the connection. I'm crazy like that.
If anyone here has ever played the Steel Battalion on-line expansion for Xbox (another human-piloted, giant mechanical walking and shooting object simulator), you have played a ridiculously sick game. You would also remember the "Sheep Dogs;" Mechs whose primary purpose was to gather intel on the enemies' position and movement. If you were fortunate enough to get your hands on one of those bad boys, you would gather and relay vital information to your team (or your "herd," as in cattle) in order to send them in the right direction...like a good sheep dog would do. It was the only Mech that could see enemy dots on the map. It was the only Mech that could listen-in on the enemies' conversations, and I don't mean this type-crap we have to deal with. I mean VoIP conversations so it was as real-time as it can get/coolest !@#$ ever. There were some limiting factors and variables depending on the situation or environment; proximity to the bad guys, or interference and jamming for example. Signal-strength was also directly proportional to line-of-sight and, if I remember correctly, the number of objects between the two units. But Ham doesn't require line-of-sight so maybe we will get a pass on that one. Anyway Steel Battalion's Sheep Dog is the precedent I am using to explain the best possible scenario for WoW making a Ham Radio.

Oh and one thing, if you had your radio active, the opposing forces had some advantage to finding you (but only you, not your team). I can't remember exactly what the advantage was, but I know you, as the Sheep Dog, could stop transmitting and shut down all power to vanish from an enemy patrol's radar-screen. Sheep Dogs also had a speed advantage. Success depended on a skillful dance involving evasion through quick bursts of speed, slow and silent stealth movements, and short bursts of radio power and airtime to get the info you need while leaving yourself enough of a time-window to vanish; thus saving your Sheep Dog for another day.

Anyway the point is that using this godly ability was very complicated and required skill and finesse to execute. You can't get all that power for nothing. There's the tie-in to WoW: if this radio will in fact be a spy tool, there's no way in hell it will be easy to acquire or maintain operational. I would expect such a reconnaissance advantage in WoW, or in any game for that matter, to be extremely complicated. Hell, besides the skill involved, the mechs were so bad-ass that they were very rare and, if destroyed in a battle, removed out of your inventory until you got another someday down the road (read: insane cool-down).

But how can WoW match that. It's just not in the interface of an MMORPG. It will have to be complicated in other ways. The only way Blizzard knows how. By torturing the engineers: WoW's gluttons for punishment. Somehow using the radio will inflict permanent damage on you and your loved ones.

So to be as crazy as the Steel Battalion version, there will have to be factors that make WoW's version keyboard-smashingly frustrating to make, use, own, or think about. As engineers we all damn-well know this is true of our profession in general, as we have dealt with many malfunctions and "jokes". I think we haven't seen #$%^ yet. The materials required to craft this thing will be devastatingly expensive (I wouldn't pay any attention to the mats list on this page atm). Even then it may only last for 3 days or X uses (hint: the AV Shredder...not even close to worth it for the mats needed for 3 days before it destroys itself. But no worries, thanks to the Shredder, that kind of punishment is old news. It's been done before. This is the EXPANSION MANNNNNN! Blizzard will want to shove it 10 lvls higher up our asses. So there's probably lvl 85 Elite robots just walking around that track the signal and beat your ass (that would be Godsknite's "hunted down by the FCC"). Or it may blow up an entire 25-man raid at random, causing 50% durability damage.

Ham Radio
Requires Engineering 3,000
Use: Allows the user to read the whispers and party chat of a targeted enemy player for 30 seconds.
"May disenchant all of your gear starting at tier 4 and working down"

Or you get a tumor when the radio waves magically shift into the microwave spectrum and cook your tiny gnome brain, which affects your motor-skill functions until your toon dies. This causes a forced-cancellation of your WoW account and you have to start at lvl 1 on a different server because the radiation fallout is so bad that you can never ever go home, so you are forced to listen to "Never Go Home" by the Moody Blues on repeat until you hit lvl 70. Then your dog dies.

Engineering ftl.

OK I got carried away, but come on. Seriously. WHY can't we just get stuff that WORKS. Does it have to carry a Surgeon General's warning? There's always gotta be some lame-ass side affect. Do alchemists' mana pots ever blowout an eyeball? Does a tailor ever slip and prick his finger with the needle, giving him a lethal dose of Tetanus? NO. What I wouldn't give to see a skinner slip and /wrists, then bleed-out all over the corpse of Nefarion. Right as the guild is taking their First Nef-Kill Screenshot. Just let me see a blacksmith trip and go face-down into the 3,000 degree smelting forge. SIGH. Anyway the more I thought about the radio as I write this, the more I began to realize teh suck factor that must accompany such a sweet, sweet, toy. The cooler the item, the more stuff that can go wrong with it. The expansion means expanded problems for us.

Well to those of you that are still with me, thanks. This, which started out as a small post, went from a few thoughts, to an in-depth comparison, to finally coming to a stop at anger fueled rant; imo on par with a really %^&*ty version of Louis Black. I went way out of the WoW realm there just because I believe the Gnomish Ham Radio will be extremely similar in PRINCIPLE to Capcom's Steel Battalion (cough superior cough).

With the exception of mind-controlling, emote-spewing priests, inter-faction communication has been essentially non-existent. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Speaking different languages is a huge part of the game and definitely has more pros than cons. But within that language-barrier concept lies an untapped resource for fun, utility, and added game-skill (i.e. perhaps a USE for engineers in parties and raids, besides the common role of BOT dispenser). There is definitely room in that component of the game to play with.

If any of you think this is a bad idea, just think of the WoW forums. We can already talk to each other at great length. The only differences are that the forum communication isn't in real time, and there is NO limit to the length of dialogue. The radio will most likely be passive, stealthy-style spying. Vital real-time input that can save many trips into the wrong place at the wrong time, or possibly spark a strategic initiative that leads to the biggest comeback in Battle Ground history. But don't get too excited yet, it's never easy for us engineers.

The only things nagging me that I cannot explain away and therefore threaten my plan for this radio:
1) What use would this awesome device have on a Care Bear server?
"Hey i can see what you are typing!"
(Pause)
"Awww I love you too!"

2) Blizzard always chooses the joke route over the crazy technology that could change a BIG part of how the game is played. As eluded to, I would not be surprised to find out it's a pig that plays instance music bits and blows up when it rains.

3) What color would it be?

And yes, I am basing all of this on nothing but my notions of what I want the radio to be, and maybe some good guesswork. So basically I am 100% sure the Ham Radio will go down like this.

OH WAIT! Maybe it will be a pig, that you control when summoned (like the hunter pet deal they got goin on where they control the pet as the main toon on their screen). Then you walk the pig non-chalantly into the pile of enemy toons, and graze casually as you listen to their every word. Like the cops inside the van that's parked in front of your house. Only it's a pig. I seriously wasn't trying to make a pun there. Maybe that's why they named it HAM Radio though? That'd be sweet.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Well, this leads to 'UnkownItem', so can anyone tell me what this does? Was it taken out in an update, or...?

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well a ham radio was the earliest form of radio so presumably its a radio(also the radio in the name gives a clue)

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What is it, does it Give you ham when you use it?

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this item comes with the expansion

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i imagine the Ham raido allowed communication between players of some sort, as a HAM radio was used by people to communicate in a sort of world wide community, where you would try to find someone, and then when you got someone you would send eachother a card indicating where you live, so that you could keep track of how far you have reached, and you could show your buddies like, "Hey! I was just talking to someone in China! cool huh? /flashes card".

Ever seen the movie contact? When jodi fosters' character is young, she goes on a radio and calls people, and marks it on a map? If you have enough range boosters and in perfect conditions, you could hope to cross oceans/mountains etc.

WoW use though? i wonder?

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it could just add a thing to your character like ex: a radio on your shoulder or a ham radio in your hands simple and stupid but likly y would blizzard add that stuff you guys are saying you know how much scripting that would be more than you think and you can already talk to horde using /e think logical stop writing ten paragraphs of ideas

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