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Kommentar von 49143

I believe with this talent druids only require a total defense of 415 to be 'crit immune' against raid bosses (lvl 73's) or 65 defense after the 350 cap has been reached @ lvl 70

Kommentar von 150313

In Wrath of the Lich King this talent will be (at least by the looks of it) buffed to 2% of attributes and reduced crit chance per talent point. So 3/3 will give us 6% reduced crit chance, making us naturally crit immune. :)

EDIT: It has stayed as we thought it would and now druids don't need any defense or resilience to be crit immune if tanking. Feral itemization is now VERY similar to rogue itemization, favoring Stamina and Agility as primary stats.

Kommentar von Ninoa

So could anyone tell me if this talent is viable for a kitty-focused druid? 6% of attributes seems quite nice, especially with the high numbers on WotlK gear. Also I'm still not sure if this adds to stats like feral attack power and crit chance, or solely to stam, agi, str, etc.

Thanks for the help.

Kommentar von Teradon

In patch 3.0.8:
Survival of the Fittest: This talent now grants 22/44/66% bonus armor in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form in addition to all of its previous effects.

Kommentar von 607

As a warrior tank, after gearing up, this makes me want to bash my head into a table.

Druids need it though, gearing was too difficult in BC from what I remember for the fuzzies.

Kommentar von 253411

in Patch 3.0.8 this talent will be changed yes indeed to 66% armor but they will not change the fact that druids don't need defense or resilience

Kommentar von Talamare

Strongest Talent Ever

Kommentar von 195614

Do you get the 6% attribute increase when not in bear form?

edit: confirmed

Yup. You get the crit reduction as well. :) The armor bonus only works in bear form though.

Kommentar von 313558

This is probably a reference to Charles Darwin's theory about the struggle to survive in the wilderness with natural resources. The theory was named “Survival of the Fittest“.

Kommentar von 286340

This doesn't have much to do with the talent, but it would be quite shocking to a raid if the Lich King was a level 84 ? boss.

Kommentar von 274404

Originally posted by Malgayne
Survival of the Fittest has had its bonus armor reduced to compensate for the above increase in damage mitigation.

Upcoming change in 3.1.0.

Kommentar von Aedalas

As an added bonus to having this talent you cannot be dazed and dismounted due to being attacked from behind. Feel free to ride through whatever you wish.

Kommentar von 213715

would this help in a cat dps tree at all?

Kommentar von 361344

Um, I don't mean to sound noob or anything, but can someone explain to me how 6% chance to no longer be critically striked means crit immunity? I mean, I dunno but it just seems to me that 6% isn't the same as 100%... and 100% should, by common sense at least, be immunity.. again, I don't mean to be an ass, I just want an honest explaination.

Kommentar von 196175

the tooltip should read the following:

Survival of the Fitest Rank 3

"Gives a druid the ability to tank with their face"

Kommentar von Sgtpain

Can someone please clear up if this talent still works in kitty form? Blizz stated at one time they were making it a bear form only talent and it would not apply to cat form, but I cannot confirm this now. I am surpised that it's not mentioned here.

Kommentar von 476154

Does this stack with Think Hide the other drood talent?

Kommentar von 18541

Has anyone done the maths:
saying in my tank gear i almost cant avoid getting necks etc with defense on, making this talent maybe useless, and giving an extra talent point to spend somewhere else:

Heres the idea:
Can anyone calculate how much defense (and resil too maybe?) you do need to be crit immune with 0/3, 1/3, and 2/3 of this talent?

Kommentar von 258919

Any bear tank who does not have 3/3 in this is terribly misinformed. This is the reason druids barely need any defense rating, and can stack dodge instead. Probably a good idea for cats too since the 6% boost can be helpful.

Kommentar von 384255

Blizz will be doing something similar to this for Warriors, Paladins and Death Knights

Defense: The Defense statistic is also being removed from items so that players no longer have to worry about juggling around "the cap." Tanks will receive the necessary anti-crit from talents, like Survival of the Fittest.

Edit: Added Source
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10543537977-blizzcon-09-classes-items-and-professions.html

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does this apply to attack power and armor, or just Str, Agi, Sta, Spr, Int?

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