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Kommentar von 9250

With enough +hit gear this talent can be replaced, but for a mage that is just beginning to raid, the 3% hit is a substantial increase in raid DPS.

Kommentar von 29800

I think that the mana reduction part of the talent is more important.

Kommentar von krynble

Adding up some information, you need 164 spell hit rating to achieve the 16% spell hit needed for high end content bosses (lvl 73) when having 3/3 on this talent.

It is still unknown if the bug persists or not at patch 2.4.1 (date I write this comment), but there used to be a bug called "Ghost Hit" (https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/forums&topic=19679&p=174063) that actually doubled the amount of +hit this talent used to give, therefore, requiring only 126 spell hit rating in order to reach the cap for _FROST_ mages, as Frostbolt is a binary spell and your mostly used one I couldn't really understand the mechanics on these, but that's the information I have :).

I will run a few tests and edit if I get any updates.

Kommentar von alexbard

Subject of change. Soon it will be on PTR to tests.

The buffs here are designed primarily to make Arcane more competitive with Fire / Frostfire builds in PvE.

* Elemental Precision – renamed Precision and now works on all spells.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/13393389857-upcoming-mage-changes.html

Kommentar von 351416

Is this mana cost reduction additive or multiplicative?
I mean if you have a spell like Cone of Cold with a 29% of base mana cost does it reduce it to 26% or 28.13%?

The reason I ask is the wording of its effect: "Apply Aura: Mod Power Cost (126), Value: -3"

The only other talent with similar wording is Arcane Focus which says "Apply Aura: Mod Power Cost (64), Value: -3".

Every other mana cost reduction talent, such as Shadow Focus which says "Apply Aura: Add % Modifier (14), Value: -6", say "Add % Modifier" instead of Arcane Focus and Precision saying "Mod Power Cost".

Anybody test this or know how it works?

Edit 1: fixed for clarity and spelling

Kommentar von Ramdomize

Testing by the TBC Classic WoW mage discord has shown that this talent still has the ghost hit effect on Frostbolt, Blizzard, and Cone of Cold, doubling its potency from 1/2/3% to 2/4/6%. The ghost hit bug does not impact fire spells though. Absolutely one of the strongest talents in the frost tree, and a must-have in any PVE frost build.

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Verringert die Manakosten und erhöht Eure Zaubertrefferchance um 3%.

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Effekt #1

Apply Aura: [Mod Spell Hit Chance %] (126)
Wert: 3%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
Betroffene Zauber:

	Blizzard	Frostblitz	Kältekegel
	Frostnova	Feuerball	Feuerball
	Feuerball	Frostblitz	Frostblitz
	Frostnova	Flammenstoß	Flammenstoß
	Feuerschlag	Feuerschlag	Feuerschlag
	Versengen	Feuerball	Frostnova
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	Blizzard	Frostblitz	Feuerball
	Feuerball	Feuerball	Frostblitz
	Frostblitz	Frostblitz	Feuerschlag
	Feuerschlag	Flammenstoß	Flammenstoß
	Blizzard	Versengen	Versengen
	Versengen	Kältekegel	Feuerball
	Feuerball	Feuerball	Feuerball
	Kältekegel	Kältekegel	Kältekegel
	Frostblitz	Frostblitz	Frostblitz
	Blizzard	Blizzard	Blizzard
	Feuerschlag	Feuerschlag	Versengen
	Versengen	Versengen	Flammenstoß
	Flammenstoß	Frostnova	Frostblitz
	Feuerball	Feuerball	Frostblitz
	Frostblitz	Versengen	Versengen
	Feuerschlag	Feuerschlag	Blizzard
	Flammenstoß	Kältekegel	Frostnova
	Eislanze	Feuerball	Frostblitz
	Feuerball	Feuerball	Frostblitz
	Frostblitz	Versengen	Versengen
	Feuerschlag	Feuerschlag	Eislanze
	Eislanze	Frostnova	Flammenstoß
	Flammenstoß	Kältekegel	Kältekegel
	Blizzard	Blizzard	Frostfeuerblitz
	Frostfeuerblitz	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag
	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag
	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag
	Pyroschlag	Drachenodem	Drachenodem
	Drachenodem	Drachenodem	Pyroschlag
	Pyroschlag	Pyroschlag	Drachenodem
	Drachenodem

Effekt #2

Apply Aura: [Mod Mana Cost %] (Alle)
Wert: -3%
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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