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Kommentar von Carighan

Wouldn't be a bad talent, if the affected spells would be better.
Spellstone is virtually never praised for it's +spellcrit, it's Dispel is the main use, and Firestone is mostly a joke.
Both lack any stats.

Basically a talent which with it's high numbers is powerful, but affects the wrong spells :)

Kommentar von 93865

This is, quite possibly, the most worthless talent in the game.

If you put the full two points in this talent, it will give your Master Spellstone an additional six spell crit rating, and your Master Firestone an additional nine fire spell damage. It will also increase the melee damage proc by 34.8-52.2 per proc.

Spending two talent points on your choice of six spell crit rating or nine fire spell damage is obviously foolish. A warlock would gain far greater utility from putting those points into Unholy Power, Fel Intellect/Stamina, Demonic Aegis, or even some of the improved demon talents.

Even with a firestone equipped, a warlock does more damage wanding than meleeing. The melee proc does not benefit from added spell damage.

Most mobs immune to magic, such as the wyrms in Karazhan, are also immune to the firestone proc.

Kommentar von 118751

This used to be an extremely OP talent which lead to the defeat of every class that stood up to a warlock using it.

Project Nerf Firestone proves this.

Kommentar von 31067

This talent might just be worth something now with WoTLK

firestones and spellstones work like poisons now - they're applied to your weapon

Firestone: increases direct dmg spelldmg by 1% and increases your crit by some lvl depending on the lvl of firestone - basically, this is a destro stone

Spellstone: DoTs do 1% more dmg and your spell haste goes up depending on spellstone lvl. this is the affli-stone

now add 30% more effect to the level-depended varables. At lvl 70 spellstone gives 40 haste rating (2.5% faster cast), at lvl 70 firestone gives 35 crit rating... (about 1.5% crit) do the math yourself - 30% to this IS NOT BAD AT ALL.

Kommentar von bulkywombat

Hmm, so I don't know how WoW math works, but if it increases the effects by 30%, does that mean you get 31% more direct/periodic damage?

Or 1.3%?

Because 31% sounds too awesome, but I know mount speeds are additive.

Kommentar von 119619

i am not sure if the 30% also applies to the 1% direct damage/dot dmg of firestones/spellstones, but the ratings of the 2 stones with talented 2/2 look like this:

firestone: 63,7 crit rating = 1,387% crit
(45,91 crit rating = 1% crit at level 80)

spellstone: 78 haste rating = 2,378% haste
(32,79 haste rating = 1% haste at level 80)

edit: PTR Patch 3.0.8: # Master Conjuror: Tooltip revised to indicate it does not increase the damage bonuses of Firestones or Spellstones.

Kommentar von Slayme

This talent will change to 150%/300% in 3.1 making it really powerful

Kommentar von 250654

Apparently it never gave the extra 0.3% dot / direct spell damage they just changed the tooltip in later patches. I'm glad its FINALLY going to get buffed.. since as it stands in any demo build your choosing between this and improved healthstone (or maybe demonic embrace)

Kommentar von CycloneDuke

Beware - you can't have this talent active, create a firestone with 4% crit, and then swap to a different spec and keep the uber stone.

I tried this; made a 4% crit firestone with Master conjuror in my demonology spec applied it to my weapon (seeing my crit raise by 4%), then dual specced into destruction. My crit fell by 3%, and the firestone in my bags had it's stats taken from it's origional uber 196 crit rating, down to the basic 49 crit rating.

Kommentar von Draste

It's a little confusing when you put commas where decimals should go.

Why do I see this all the time? Do people just not pay attention in math/english?

You see this all the time because many other parts of the world use the system that Darlissa does for comma/period use. So its not their lack of attention to math/English, it is your lack of attention to world geography or simply cultural awareness. Chances are you are from the United States like myself, and I'd like to thank you for contributing to the plethora of proof there is for illustrating such a dismal understanding of global awareness here in the U.S.

Kommentar von 512966

With Master Conjuror,

Grand Firestone increases direct damage by 1% and critical strike rating by 196

Grand Spellstone increases DoT damage by 1% and haste by 240

Kommentar von Thottbot

Spellstone and Firestone should be added as part of destruction talents and not demonology. It is useless also for any increase will not have any significance effect on your attacks after TBC.

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Apply Aura: [Modifies Effect #3's Value] (23)
Wert: 300%
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Feuerstein - 21 kritischer Zaubertreffer	Feuerstein - 28 kritischer Zaubertreffer	Feuerstein - 42 kritischer Zaubertreffer
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Apply Aura: [Modifies Effect #3's Value] (23)
Wert: 300%
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Kritischer Bonus des Zaubersteins	Zauberstein - 10 Hast	Zauberstein - 20 Hast
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