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Kommentar von Wyuli

As a protection warrior and main tank for my guild, I find this talent to be entirely too ineffective for PvE content. Most raid bosses are immune to Disarm, which is really where having the extra duration on the skill would be most beneficial. Even on mobs that are not immune, Disarm can still be dodged, blocked, or parried, at which point you must wait for the minute cooldown to expire before trying again. If you're considering this talent, then you've already decided to put more than 15 points into the Protection tree and are likely planning to spend at least 31 points in the tree. If this is indeed the case, you would be better served by investing these points in any other talent in the first three tiers of the Protection tree.

If you will be PvP'ing heavily as a Protection specc'd warrior, you may find a reason to take this talent. If you plan on centering your strategy around Disarming an opponent, however, be aware that talents, gloves, and weapon enhancements exist that make the owner immune to disarm. Even if you plan on doing a lot of PvP, I would still suggest investing points elsewhere.

Kommentar von 218558

I believe that this talent is much better now with the new wotlk improvements. The cd now being 40 seconds giving you 10% 1/4 the time your fighting. So about a 2.5% increase in damage done overall. This can also be used in groups in where using this could be so helpful in getting mobs down quicker.

Kommentar von 33153

So improved disarm might be more worthwhile than i thought, I've noticed that a LOT of bosses (even on heroic) are disarmable.

Here's some examples i can think of (that i've personally tested):
Gundrak
gal'darah
Moorabi

Utgard Pinnacle: all of them
Svala sorrowgrave
Gortok Palehoof
Skadi ***
King Ymiron

Ahn'kahet: Old Kingdom
Jedoga Shadowseeker
Prince Taldaram ***

COT: Stratholme
Salramm
Chrono-lord epoch

Utgarde keep: all of them
Prince Keleseth
Skarvald and mage friend
Ingvar

Halls of stone
Maiden of grief ***

Maybe that extra 10% damage is worth while afterall. With a 40 second cooldown and a 10 second duration this could be up 25% of the time or in otherwords 2.5% overall increase in dps from all sources.

*** Indicates that I think they are disarmable but i'm not 100% sure

Kommentar von Poposhka

Not particularly well spent 2 points for a leveling build... Even with the talents, you can only disarm maybe every 2-3 mobs. And in some zones, you won't even see a single mob using a weapon. Put your points into the next or previous tier instead (then when you get devastate+S&B in your mid-50s - you will want them in Puncture)

Kommentar von 182403

While there are uses for pve content and maybe even soloing, this talent is mostly pvp. Being able to disarm every 40 seconds is a nice boon. Using this in combination with spell reflect is a winner combo, when under attack it can be a real turn tabler. Disarm also works on hunters these days.

To be short, a must have for any pvp-ing prot, hybrid, and because it is a talent in the first 4 tiers, it could eventually be used by arms or fury warriors trying who like stance dancing.

Disarm removes parry from the attack table too, so the added damages is more then just 10% (death knights really hate that).

Kommentar von 451079

Well, if you want 10% extra damage for 10 seconds why not disarm a caster too?
I wonder if the 15 rage is worth it... /shrug

Kommentar von 248813

Has anyone tested to see if disarming a caster removes the spellpower bonus from the weapon you just disarmed them of?
I think that removing 400+ SP for 10 seconds would really put a crimp in a casters ability to fight a warrior.

Kommentar von Stryper7

A CD shortened by 20s means that if you are the tank handling the large adds that come rumbling down the pathway in the Onyxia encounter you should be able to disarm nearly every single one when they cast ignite weapon. The 10% increased damage is helpful too, because I have found that it nearly always managed to give my lovely melee dps friends the boost they needed to kill the add before blast nova finished casting.

"Castbars.... ah ok I turned them on! So I am supposed to run when that bar that says blast nova starts to fill up?"

Kommentar von ninni

As for disarmable raid bosses, I'm only aware of

Toravon the Ice Watcher
Gormok the Impaler (not in heroic mode)

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