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评论来自
7939
Do Earth and Fire Elemental Totems share their cooldown?
评论来自
97
This Totem is extremely good, contradictory to popular belief. I just used it to tank Durn the Hungerer in Nagrand. He's a level 67 elite Gronn. Our group consisted of a holy priest, elemental shaman (myself), restoration shaman, enhancement shaman and affliction warlock. Took him down with no deaths and the Elemental holding aggro nearly the entire time. One of the more fun things I've done in Outland. =)
评论来自
19244
Question:
With a 20m cooldown, does the elemental follow you for the 2minutes or is it bound to the totem?
评论来自
18074
He uses a 'proper' taunt, unlike a voidwalker. This means you can use it to pull agro off yourself no-matter how long a mob as been stuck on you.
评论来自
23009
I dueled a shaman with this totem to test his hp and damage soak. In my experience the earth elemental seems to gain hit points as the fight goes on; I'm not sure if this is a function of time or healing. At the start, I whacked him a couple of times, and did about 1000hp damage, and he was down to like 60% health. After his owner healed him a couple times and a few more seconds went by, another 1000hp only dropped him to 80% health. After about a minute of the fight, 1000hp of damage only seemed to do like 5-10% of his total health in damage.
More testing is needed. Can anyone confirm?
评论来自
34354
How well does the elemental totems scale. And whit what stats?
评论来自
mezziah
This earth totem, make alot of mobs easier to get down, because high dps and taunt. you can easily kill mobs that are three lvls and elite upon you.
be very happy when you get this one.
评论来自
rayford
I'm pretty sure that, as of 2.1 (perhaps a hotfix), elemental totems gain a percentage of the Shaman's HP. The fire elemental also gets a percentage of the Shaman's mana. This was designed to help the totems live a bit longer, and in the case of the fire elemental, do a bit more damage.
评论来自
hiikari
just curious as a low level shammy but does this elemental act like a pet with the attack command and such or is it just attack randomly?
评论来自
DELPylon
Deploy against a raid in AV and watch your screen fill with "immune" messages from the elemental trying to AoE taunt them all. Likely to draw a few seconds of heavy fire as well, so in a way the taunt works.
评论来自
footmaster
Is this guy immune to bleed effects? If so is it possible for it to tank Nalorakk in bear form, or at least be the target of the bleeds so one of the main tanks don't get them?
Just a thought
评论来自
113400
How much does the Elemental hit for? And how good is it in comparison from the Fire Elemental?
评论来自
106166
Is this immune to nature in the same way all other earth elementals are?
If he is, he could be used against the Shaman in Gruul's Lair, as mere immunity to Nature won't prevent holding aggro.
评论来自
90829
The survivability of this thing increases quite a bit if you throw an earthshield up on him. Keeping it alive can mean slowly but surely soloing elites.
FYI: It's extremely irritating for a tank when you use this on a boss, since it taunts the mob off of him/her. And in a raid, more often than not it gets one or two-shotted anyway.
评论来自
corvato
very good for shaman leveling when trying to solo group (2) or even (3). heal the pet, and DPS the mobs between taunts. Very efficient for shamans, any talent.
评论来自
80711
The damage mitigation that this guy is incredible. Here's an example: With guild in TK, fighting Solarion. Only had a few people dead when she went into voidy phase, but all the shammys had dropped fire elemental totems. But one, rather than just say oh well, decided to drop their earth ele....which successfully tanked 5% of Solarions health. Granted, all the healers were focusing on overhealing it, but DO NOT overlook the usefullness of this lil' guy :)
评论来自
138937
This thing has a fairly proper taunt, takes a bit to get agro off sometimes but usually will. Can tank most elite mobs and makes group quests solo able every 20 mins. One thing, does it receive the buff from wind fury or flame tongue totem?
评论来自
TheMuffinMan
He is immune to nature damage, so any nature-damage dealing bosses are completely unable to harm it.
评论来自
168325
The new 51 point enhancement talent
Feral Spirit
looks very interesting. They are player controlled, and have a taunt:
Twin Howl
. Looks like a good supplement to earth elemental totems for multiple adds.
评论来自
449154
lay this totem down as a resto shaman while refreshing magma totem and throwing in a couple of shocks every now and then, while healing this guy, and you can solo anything.
评论来自
476166
It's fun to use this guy in AV. Throw him down near a marker with guards, and he'll aggro every one from you while you and your team have time to capture the flag and DPS 'em to death. The same goes for any situation where there are dozens of wild mobs around you or your team. He aggros *very* well, and sometimes can even grab some aggro off of a tank. With that comes a price -- he's soft against elites, and without heals, he's a goner.
评论来自
Tripster
If you prematurely dismiss an elemental, does the 2 min CD reset?
评论来自
brucek2
The earth elemental is not a pet, so won't show up in your pet frame. I use this macro so I can monitor/heal it via a focus frame:
/cast Earth Elemental Totem
/target Greater Earth Elemental
/focus
/targetlasttarget
Edit: You may have to tap the key you bind this to a couple times, because there's a small delay before the Earth Elemental has spawned and can be targeted.
评论来自
Azrona
Don't be like me and use it at a raidboss, especially Festergut. He taunts the boss, messes taunt rotation up and wipes the raid.
评论来自
Allakhazam
At lv 66 it has approx 5000 health. Don't know if it increases per level or not cooldown is a little much for it's utility 10 minutes would be nice
评论来自
Allakhazam
The Earth Elemental that is summoned only stays around the totem and doesn't do very good damage. It does however hold aggro very nicely to get you out of a jam.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Confirmed, 20 minutes.
Edited, Nov 17th 2007 11:21pm by Cypherpunked
评论来自
Allakhazam
Cooldown: 20 minutes
评论来自
Allakhazam
can you summon the earth elemental and the fire elemental at the same time?
评论来自
Thottbot
Since this spell actualy creates a totem which summons the elemental,does that mean the earth elemental is chained to the totem and cant go far or does it follow you?
评论来自
Thottbot
That's right.
评论来自
Thottbot
Not great damage, limited mobility, long cooldown, and can't be used in arenas. It has about 6k health and only moderate armor. The only saving grace is it's amazing ability to hold agro. PvE only pretty much. PvP it's a waste of mana, and as I mentioned it can't be used in arenas because it's cooldown is higher than 15 minutes.
It's best use is hold agro of a larger pull in an instance or something because even on bosses it dies too quickly and is a waste of healer's mana to keep it up. The only other use is to save your ass when running away from NPCs. Drop it and you get a few more seconds to run.
评论来自
Thottbot
well all of those things and it can be banished
评论来自
Thottbot
we would all much rather have the classic purple spirit wolves. they would at least be cool.
评论来自
Thottbot
Stop complaining that the earth elemental doesn't do much damage, that's what the fire elemental is for. Earth is for pulling aggro in PvE, an instant cast extra 7000 health is pretty damn nice, even if it did 0 damage.
Quote from fire elemental page:
"for a pet, it does a lot of damage. Just now I saw mine crit blast wave for 1100 (700 regular). fire blast does a chunk of damage too, about 500.
Also, keep in mind that this does not require talent points to get, unlike the mages water elemental which requires all 41.
评论来自
Thottbot
For those who are reading this without being a 68 shaman, there is a 2 min cooldown between elemental totems.. you can pop your rock guy, but then you gotta wait 2 min for the fire.. on the up side, my fire elemental damn near killed a rogue that tried to gank me while I pickin flowers. :)
And right after posting that first part, I got my rock to tank a 70 elite, so it's definitely worth having... who needs a friend when you have something you can create?
评论来自
Thottbot
Well i have to say the Cooldown for this is not fair imo but the totem itself ive found quite useful, Atm im only 66 (just got the totem ^^)
and i took a lv 68 elite by myself its up to you what you guys think about the totem but i think its not bad but id love blizz to reduce the CD or something :D
评论来自
Thottbot
I use this on bosses/elites and with a little heal it can tank them while I or my group killes whatever we are killing. 20 min cd is a bit /cry, gife 2 min! ^^
Then I could spec resto and use this to solo instances :O
It is immune to many things that normaly does a lot of damage on a normal tank. It has very good armor and not a bad health either. Dps isnt to much, but it holds aggro of anything. (never seen any1 taking aggro of it without using taunt)
评论来自
Thottbot
If anyone is having trouble on the final boss in Shadow Labs, this guy totally rules. Immune to most nature attackand recieved minimal damage, your healer isnt going to have much trouble doing his healing thang. 2 minute super-tank.
评论来自
Thottbot
I have to say as a sham main, when I first saw this spell in the list from Bliz, I was disappointed it was a totem, because it would seem to be virtually worthless in pvp. One nick on it, and bye bye elemental + 20 min cd. However, having used it several times in bg's (mostly Eye of the Storm) I have to say this is the most entertaining thing I'm able to use in the bg! It's hilarious watching Allies run around it frantically, while you see Immune Immune Immune pop up on its head over and over. It does ~140 damage per hit, not much, but not to be ignored either. I believe it's more the scare factor than anything else tho that makes it effective.
The first time I used it in Eye of the Storm, there was a heated skirmish ongoing around the middle flag, seemingly at a stalemate. I was attacking allies who ventured too far from their group and throwing a heal here and there. I figure, what the hey, I'm prolly gonna be here at least 10 more min anyway, lets see what this elemental will do here, if it even lasts more than 3 seconds.
That thing ran straight to the middle of the allies as if I were directing it, myself. A couple of them tried attacking it, but it was often immune, and they werent doing a lot to it. Suddenly most of their team was backstepping in a semi retreat mode. He chased them off the middle bridge, and well beyond. I very much doubt he was still within range of the actual totem. I felt like I had just summoned Lok from AV on these guys haha! When some dead Ally reinforcements made their way back to the scene, they started focusing on it more. Hiding behind a large rock mound, I was able to get a heal on it, and wouldve easily and gladly done more just for kicks, but I was oom. Ah well, the damage was done, so I guess he be leavin'. :P
Since then tho, the elemental most often lives longer than I do lol. A couple somewhat obvious tips if you're going to use it in pvp. Put it down in pitched, fairly even battles. Try to hide the totem, itself, on the outskirts of the skirmish, preferably in some more difficult to find area. Behind a rock or in a crevice in the terrain. Trust me, your elemental will know where to go. Oh, and try not to die too soon, so you get a good chance to see it in action! :)
评论来自
Thottbot
this more of a guardian than anything else, immune to alot of things, good tank, u dont like it use ur fire totem
评论来自
Thottbot
That if someone sics one of these on you in Area 52, the guards don't attack it, but the second you retaliate you will feel the hurt.
评论来自
Thottbot
How far away can this elemental be away from its totem before it disappears
评论来自
Thottbot
He tanked durn a 67 elite in nagrand just a few min ago. A couple times someone pulled aggro but he always got it back. It was me and a priest healing.
评论来自
Thottbot
I only use this elemental for:
PvE pulls that go wrong
Instance pulls that go wrong
Soloing elites
Because it has an AoE taunt ability, it's useful for getting guys off you. This is not, however, the ideal PvP totem. I'd much rather use fire elemental for burst damage in that case.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is good for example if u boost some1 and also in normal PvE it gives nice healing break although this is lot worse than the fire elemental but this is only my opinion ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
The cooldown is ridiculous! I don't mind the fact that you can;t use thm at the same time but 20mins! I'ts stupid. What I would Like to see is Blizzard taking it down to 15mins so we can shove these in arenas. anyone in a 5v5 + Fire elemental totem or Earth shoul quake in there booties =P
评论来自
Thottbot
When this elemental is summoned, is it like a hunter's pet, where you control its abilities(agressive, defencive,passive,stay,follow,attack,etc.) or is it like the pet of the SM boss drop, Dog Whistle? And that it have any other abilities other than simple attack? If they do, what are they?
评论来自
Thottbot
I just picked up this totem and i gotta say it is awesome for soloing elites or if you get in a
"Oh ^&*!" situation! Excellent to pull agro off you or for when you get sick and tired of that one rogue sneak attacking you, just pull this guy out, RAWRRRR!
That being said, a 20 minute cooldown is freaking insane, c'mon now Blizz be realistic. I understand the 2 min CD between the two elementals, but they definetly need to reduce the CD on these guys down to 10 minutes max. I mean I've never once heard someone complain that Shamans are overpowered, drop the CD on this down to 10 minutes and well actually have a chance in PVP.
Your Thoughts?
评论来自
Thottbot
read the description on the earth and fire it says "protects the caster and allies" and the fire one says "rain destruction on the casters enemies"
评论来自
Thottbot
I just got this spell last night. Someone asked me for help with the Bird elite in Lower City. This thing tanked like a champ. It never once lost aggro and my sham hits like a train!
I LOVE IT!
评论来自
Thottbot
Got this spell a couple days ago, and i love it. it will not lose aggro, and it saved my group a couple times in ramps when our tanks health got low. It also helped me do a couple quest with ease when taking big aggros. like havin my own personal tank.
Blahanter-66 dreanie shaman
Gilnease realm
评论来自
Thottbot
Good at tanking Murmur in SL, since most his attacks are nature damage and this elemental is immune :)
评论来自
Thottbot
do you need to be resto to can summon it?
评论来自
Thottbot
I use this while PvEing, its very helpful.throw it a heal everyone once in a while and you can take more than 4 at a time.
So i use my Fire Elemental to help lowbie guildies/friends.i pull the whole instance and drop my fire elemtanl and he fire novas and thats the instance! ( well the bosses will have about half health left)
All in all the elementals a shaman can summon are very helpful.
Earth elemental is very useful againt murmur ( last boss in shadow labs) because the earth elemental is immune to nature attacks and most of murmurs are nature attacks XD
Although the cooldown completely sucks , we can
HORDE SHAMMIES FTW! Get over it.
Junnda( currently low level bu ive played a 70 shammy before so i know this)
Smolderthorn
Horde
评论来自
Thottbot
Look i dont know about you but those fire elementals in elemental plateu seem to knock off alot of health over time.... So what's great is this guy right here :). He can keep the aggro and he'll automatically pick off the next guy to farm haha. Pluss it seems like if there is a rogue or something nearby... he's either scared of this guy or loves to walk really really slow to his every kill.
评论来自
Thottbot
Excuse for bad english.
Does anyone know a good addon to monitor elementals' presence/health/mana? In fight it's hard to mouse them and watch stats.
评论来自
Thottbot
this is fun to use in battlegrounds, even though the cooldown is outrageous. its also prety good in pve, i used it to tank an elite. he's REALLY REALLY REALLY cool! HULK SMASH!
评论来自
GhostGhost
Really strong tanking elemental.
You can solo elite quests with this that previously would be impossible.
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土元素图腾
24% 法力值 值
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需要等级 66
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召唤一个土元素图腾,它可以召唤出大型土元素攻击敌人。持续2 min。
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普通
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24% 法力值 值
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瞬发
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10分钟
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