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评论来自
Carighan
A talent which sounds better than it is. On average you can assume that in any longer fight this is a ~2%-3% increase in your DPS.
Considering that Murder offers virtually the same increase for 3 less talent points... not a good deal here.
评论来自
114332
This one is a no-brainer. 30% extra damage on your crits is what gets you those crazy ambush and mutilate numbers.
评论来自
178373
When an opponent reduces your chance to crit them by 10% and the crit damage by 20%, your critical strike damage goes from x2 to x1.8 your normal damage. This talent takes it to x2.1 in this scenario. So, how is that a bad thing? Just because resilience gimps crit damage and chance, it doesn't mean we should further gimp it ourselves, does it?
评论来自
135643
Does this till effect moves such as sinister strike and backstab?
评论来自
Vulajin
The wording "combo moves" as used by this ability and Turn the Tables has been tested and confirmed to mean "those moves which generate combo points and which are neither openers nor finishers." In other words, Backstab, Ghostly Strike, Hemorrhage, Mutilate, Riposte, Shiv, Sinister Strike.
Ambush, Eviscerate, and Envenom are not affected.
评论来自
260714
and ambush died once again..
评论来自
316367
Anyone knows if this talent works with Shadow Dance & Ambush ? Because after Shadow Dance, Ambush no longer requires Stealth for 10 secs. So for 10 sec duration crit dmg bonus of Ambush should be %30 more...err.. right ?
评论来自
250654
Apparently this doesn't effect ambush any more, even in shadow dance
评论来自
195872
If I'm a pvp mutilate spec which of my attacks will this affect? Since eviserate doesn't add combo points, and ambush is out of the picture.
Does this mean that only mutilate and shiv are affected by this talent?
评论来自
90108
People often misunderstand this talent's effect. 5/5 Lethality increases your critical strike damage BONUS by 30%, not your critical strike damage overall. To illustrate the difference, let's assume that you do
x
damage with a non-crit SS.
Crit damage:
Wrong:
x * 2 * 1.3 = 2.6x damage
Right:
x + ((2x - x) * 1.3) = 2.3x damage
This is a more important distinction when looking at how Lethality and
Prey on the Weak
work together (or the 3% crit damage gem for that matter).
Wrong:
x * 2 * 1.3 * 1.2 = 3.12x damage
Wrong:
x * (2 + 0.3 + 0.2) = 2.5x damage
Right:
x + (((2x * 1.2) - x) *1.3) = 2.82x damage
The key feature is that Lethality increases critical strike damage BONUS, which is Crit damage - normal damage. Prey on the Weak (and the
Relentless Earthsiege Diamond
) increase critical strike damage
itself,
thereby increasing the amount of critical strike damage bonus there is for Lethality to act upon.
评论来自
222832
a combo move is a spell that adds combo points or uses combo points like eviscerate?
Also with
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=61331
does it mean in other words i receive 60% more crit dmg?
评论来自
Rosvall
A Combo Move is an attack that grants you combo points.
A Finishing Move is an attack that uses up your combo points.
The wording on this talent is being changed to
Lethality now affects all combo point-generating abilities.
To make it easier to understand for people whom are new to the class.
On your other question;
For Eviscerate it does nothing.
For both Backstab and Sinister Strike (With only these 2 talents, no other) it's
1*1.15 = 115% damage on a Hit compared to 100% without any of the talents.
(1*(2+0.3))*1.15 = 264,5% damage on a Critical Hit compared to 200% damage without any talents.
评论来自
ArashikageClan
Considering that
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=60163
affects Fan of Knives energy cost (making it cost 47 energy), anyone have any idea if Lethality affects Fan of Knives? My bet is that it doesn't, which of course is just a double standard.
As for affecting ambush in the PTR, it shouldn't. I believe they made any move that adds combo points from stealth count as "openers," not combo-point generating abilities.
edit: Elitist Jerks say that Fan of Knives is not affected by Lethality, so the set bonus and the talent description of combo-point generating abilities is inconsistent.
评论来自
Redwood
Noobish question:
Ruthlessness gives 60% chance of finishing moves generating a combo point, so when they do won't the finishing moves fall under the effects of this talent? Otherwise I would consider the text of this talent misleading...
评论来自
433005
Anyone know if this can be used with ambush if under the Shadow Dance, because it doesnt use stealth then, but it is usually a stealth based skill?
评论来自
453636
Please notice that this talent affects the CRIT dmg of your combo point generating moves (ones that don't require stealth at that). Shiv does indeed generate combo points, but it is currently _impossible_ for Shiv to crit. At all. It is therefore unaffected by this talent.
I say this because idk how it worked before, or if it was worded differently before, but I see posts prior to mine saying it helps their shiv.... it's starting to scare me, rofl.
评论来自
Thottbot
OMGZ NERF NERF NERF NERF! (total sarcasm)
I recommend it to PVP build dagger rogues
You get high damage backstabs
评论来自
Thottbot
at first glans i thought it was +20%crit chanse on your ambush etc.
but then i notice the dmg. part...?
Does it increace your dmg done/Does it increase the crit on the +dmg of the spell as an example:Backstab IX has 150%dmg +225dmg...
does the lethality increase the crit of those 225 dmg by 20%...and if so is it worth 5 talent points...plz try to explaine this to me ....becouse i realy dont get this lethality bonus,and i have it on my rouge:P
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使你的所有不需要潜行且可以产生连击点数的战斗技能的爆击伤害加成提高30%。
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