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评论来自
9520
As of patch 2.1 sword specialization procs will be yellow damage and a proc will not reset the swing timer. Although being yellow damage (not affected by glancing blows) it will not be subject to the impale bonus on critical strikes.
It's not an ability so it's not affected and my testing shows no sign of an extra critical damage bonus.
评论来自
73706
I've heard that sword spec only procs off white (auto attack) hits. Is that true?
If so that means it really will only proc about once every 70 seconds when using Despair if I'm auto attacking the entire time. Seems kind of low to me, especially compared to Axe spec which will cause an extra crit much more often since it of course works on all attacks.
评论来自
Juggernaut
It algo procs out of yellow attacks, as long as it requires Melee Weapon (Ex: Harmstring, Rend, Mortal Strike, Execute). It wont proc out of Bloodthirst or Pummel for example, or anything with a Shield.
评论来自
35014
So can anyone verify if this still gives rage for a proc?
评论来自
175895
I have tested Poleaxe, Sword, and Mace spec
Sword spec is superior to Poleaxe for PvP , because it is not affected by your targets resilience.
Sword spec will give you extra rage when it procs, the amount of rage is based on the extra damage the proc does. Sword spec procs can also crit, I have noticed about an 8% chance for them to crit although I have not personally tested the crit rate.
Also it is possible for your Sword hit and Sword spec Proc to crit on the same attack.
评论来自
182403
hmmm
you say it act likes normal white hit in any way, so technicaly, your sword proc could proc a wf? or what?
评论来自
195264
Well u said that it procs from anything that needs weapon ( hamstring,MS,WW....) so u can say that when u spam hamstring it has chance to hit additional WEAPON DMG from Hamstring - 63 dmg ability ?
评论来自
225575
Well u said that it procs from anything that needs weapon ( hamstring,MS,WW....) so u can say that when u spam hamstring it has chance to hit additional WEAPON DMG from Hamstring - 63 dmg ability ?
This is false.
Weapon Damage is always Weapon Damage, i.e. a random value from your weapon's damage range modified by attack power (perhaps normalized depending on the attack).
Hamstring does not do "Weapon Damge." It does a static amount.
If an attack does weapon damage, even if it's a proc from some weaker attack, it does around the same damage as a normal white swing. This is why in Vanilla WoW, in the days before Slam rotations and when Windfury procced off yellow swings, Horde warriors would spam hamstring as a rage dump, hoping to generate a Windfury proc. Hamstring can absolutely produce a full damage white swing from Sword Spec, or Hand of Justice, or Thrash Blade, or whatever.
评论来自
40449
6 seconds cooldown ... erm ... everyone ok with that?
评论来自
40449
I remember old days ... years ago ... when I was leveling my warrior ... I was level 36 and i got a normal hit , Sword proc after , sword proc of the sword proc, and one more sword proc after. 1 hit and 3 procs... resulting in instant 4 hits .... ofcourse it was instant kill
This has been fixed very long time ago , now you can get up to 1 proc from 1 dmging attack.
P.s. This reminded me also of the "reckoning bombs" ... ergh ... good old days ....
评论来自
Einhander696
Does the extra attack from this proc
Sudden Death
? If so, Sword Spec just got a lot sweeter for raiding...
评论来自
195264
"Anytime u hit with ur Sword" so it should proc even from Hamstring that deals no DMG ...
评论来自
kostyan
Can someone confirm that this procs off OH, it would essentially make it a 10% talent.
While at it, did mace spec. proc-ed off OH (back when it was stun)?
评论来自
393152
And apparently, at least on the 3.2 PTR's, Rogues will be given the ability to wield axes, and this talent will be altered to reflect that, including both swords and axes.....To the rogues levelling out there, Flurry Axe+Thrash Blade seem appealing? =D
评论来自
87278
PTR Patch 3.2.2 - Build 10357
:
Arms
•Sword Specialization now gives you a 2/4/6/8/10% chance to get an extra attack on the same target after hitting your target with your Sword. (Up from 1/2/3/4/5%)
Confirmed by Blizzard.
MMO-Champion
- Source.
Edit: First link posted incorrectly.
评论来自
63586
The chance of a 10% proc proccing twice in 6 seconds (6 attacks) is 0.006561, I believe, or .6561%.
This is wrong wrong wrong. You can do the math either way, the chance to get at least 2 procs out of 6 at a probability of .1, or to not get at least 5 procs at a probability of .9. The 2nd way is faster, answer is just 1-that probability.
Chance to only get 1 proc(and not get 5) is 6 * .9^5 * .1 = .354
Chance to get no procs is .9^6 = .531
1-.531-.354 = .115 = 11.5% This means more than 1 in 10 of your procs goes bye bye.
For PvP it's not quite this bad, you spend a lot of time chasing down opponents. There's also a little bit of lag that keeps you from hitting a special attack every 1.5s.
However, in PvE, you get raid buffs to your haste, and you don't spend as much time moving, sometimes hardly at all. Actual observed proc rates in PvE usually end up being between 8 and 8.5%. That means around 15% or more of the procs are wasted. Whether this is enough to make it even with axe or mace needs more raid logs.
评论来自
182403
As Arcanum said, this spec (finally) got boosted to 10%, bringing it to a level it can compete with maces and axes.
consider these things before opting into this
10% chance to generate a
normal white hit
this doesn't mean double special damage like axes or higher overall normal/special damage because of arp like maces
this means it does generate rage
sword spec doesn't proc sword spec procs because of the internal cd, but it
does
critical hit, proc sudden death, weapon&trinket procs, deep wounds when crit etc
EDIT: white hit means less hit chance then yellow hits and glancing blows occur, this seems false from more testing
white hit means it's not an "ability" so it doesn't benefit from fe impale
the extra proc can be dodged/parried/blocked, thus migated but also generate (eventualy glyphed) overpower
this
internal cooldown
making it burst extra for a max of "crit weapon damage" every 6 second,
however this burst is not bound to resil further then the normal damage reduction you get from resil
you don't have any general benefit other then sword procs (axes has higher crit damage, maces has huge arp)
conclusion: while it is viable, it remains a tough choice to bury the overal burst from crit&critdam from axes because they benefit from deep wounds&impale, while it doesn't give the the certainly higher damage from mace spec, that being said, it probably will do more overall damage againgst very high resil targets and will help if you feel your having rage problems
评论来自
63586
white hit means less hit chance then yellow hits and glancing blows occur
Ummm....the only time your white hit chance is different from yellow is when your dual-wielding. If you're specced into sword specialization, by default you can't get titan's grip, and you shouldn't be dual-wielding.
I've looked over some logs since 3.2.2. The procced swings look like normal swings, and can be difficult to identify from your normal melee swings, but it can be done. In the logs I've looked at, SS procs no longer glance, it may be an undocumented change. Would be nice to get developer confirmation, but I'm convinced they don't read the threads as they say the do.
评论来自
37999
Does this act as a duplicate of the attack that it procs off of, or is it just a regular swing? That is, if I use overpower and it procs, will the attack be another overpower?
评论来自
sorsa
Without wanting to get indepth with theorycrafting I would say sword spec shines mostly in PvP, as this is where the extra rage generation from bonus white swings has the most relevance. But also when fighting targets that kite you alot and where you only have short intervals to deal damage before your target starts kiting you again, the 6s internal cd is up again when you close the distance and has time to cooldown when you are being kited.. hypothetical mumbo jumbo ofc. That said I still preffer Axes or Maces above Sword spec in all cases myself.. for one simple reason:
Sword Spec doesn't do anything for your AoE damage the way Axes/Maces does, all it does is eat your Sweeping Strikes charges with white swings where youd much rather try to stuff in one extra Mortal Strike/Overpower or Cleave instead.
评论来自
Thottbot
This pwns! The sword specialition can proc itself again, just happened.
You gain 1 extra attack trough sword spec
You gain 1 extra attack trough sword spec
basicaly that was like windufury lol
i think its possible to proc even 3 times arow but it takes lots of luck then
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm thinking of going fury spec with sword spec and flurry while concentrating on crit rating and a bit of agi to keep flurry up. It may be worthwhile but who knows.
It's like a paladins reckoning. The additional attack procs weapon procs so it's nice to use with weapons that have "Chance on hit" capability.
评论来自
Thottbot
I was thinking of flurry + sword specialization. Question: when you get flurry, does a bonus attack from sword spec use up one of your 3 flurry attacks?
评论来自
Thottbot
It does use up one of your flurry attacks since it is white dmg
评论来自
Thottbot
Procs more often than it seems. It's proc'd 2-3 times in a row in some sessions
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剑类武器专精
剑类武器专精
天赋
需要 战士
使你在用剑类武器击中敌人后有10%的几率对同一目标进行一次额外的攻击。这个效果每6秒只能触发一次。
(特效触发几率:10%,6秒 冷却)
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法术细节
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GCD目录
n/a
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无
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0码
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Apply Aura:Proc Trigger Spell
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剑类武器专精
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