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评论来自
Lastemperor
Is it just me or TBC tank sets compared to pre TBC tanking sets are totally crap setbonus-wise?
评论来自
29402
170 health is an ok bonus, don't forget 10% Shield Slam damage increase means quite a lot threat/aggro. This is a pure PvE set bonus, but it should be. 10% damage increase on Shield Slam in PvP isn't that noticeable. It's meant to be a tank set, expect a tank set bonus. :)
评论来自
17977
Seems to be the worst piece of the tier 6 set. Compare it to the t5 helm
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30115
and you will find that the t6 helm is a sidegrade at best. Also, the crafted engineering goggles
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32473#M0z
are comparable to both the t6 and t5. I do like that there are a few different viable options, it leaves room for filling in whatever you're lacking from your other gear, however i would like to see the t6 helm be a clear-cut upgrade from the t5, just like the rest of the set is. Well, except for the terrible 2-piece set bonus on t6.
评论来自
zork
no its perfect. you need this to get passive immunity against crushing blows.
just check this list:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30974
Onslaught Greathelm - Helm
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30007
The Darkener's Grasp - Amulet
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30980
Onslaught Shoulderguards - Shoulders
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=29925
Phoenix-Wing Cloak - Cloak
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30976
Onslaught Chestguard - Breast
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32515
Wristgaurds of Determination - Bracers
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30970
Onslaught Handguards - Gloves
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30096
Girdle of the Invulnerable - Belt
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30116
Destroyer Legguards - Legs
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32267
Boots of the Resilient - Feet
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30028
Seventh Ring of the Tirisfalen - Ring
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30083
Ring of Sundered Souls - Ring
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=19431
Styleen's Impeding Scarab - Trinket
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32501
Shadowmoon Insignia - Trinket
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30874
The Unbreakable Will - Weapon
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=30889
Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart - Shield
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32253
Legionkiller - Ranged
This combination of gear gets: 229 block rating, 88 parry rating, 172 dodge rating, 77 agility, and 429 defense rating. Naked, I have a 10.8% chance to block and parry, a 4.75% chance to dodge, and 5.2% chance to be missed. That's 31.55% avoidance. The gear adds 36.14% chance to block, 9.94% chance to parry, 18.82% chance to dodge, and a 7.15% increased chance to be missed. That brings the total avoidance to 103.6%.
Source:
http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12576
everything is fine.
评论来自
Lavernius
While this is a well rounded, great tanking helm, at this level of content you should be able to get your tanks a Faceplate of the Impenetrable which is an even greater helm off Illidan.
Faceplate vs T6 Helm
1532 armor - 1483 armor (+49 armor)
0str - 23str (-1.15block value, but this is negated by the equip: block value)
0agi - 28agi (again, this is negated by the equip bonuses)
82!sta - 48sta (+340hp)
Meta and Red Socket - Meta and Red Socket (SAME, share +6sta socket bonus)
30defense - 36defense (-6 defense rating, negligible)
38! dodge rating - 0 dodge rating (+38dodge, far superior to 28agi)
29 block rating - 30 block rating (-1 block rating, lolol)
45 block value - 35 block value (+10block value)
The Faceplate comes out with more stamina, avoidance, and TPS through block value, making it far better than T6.
评论来自
97583
The DPS t6 helm has more stam then this...
评论来自
37214
Your comparison to the faceplate is WAY off and extremely biased. You can't ignore Agi and Str and write them off as "negated by equip bonuses". Both are affected by BoK and one by Vitality. If you are going to do a comparison, how about actually doing a real comparison instead of fudging it to prove your point?
T6 Helm vs. Faceplate
1545 armor vs. 1532 armor (T6 has 13 more armor due to Agi-includes BoK)
+.93% Crit (again, Agi)
1.03% dodge (Agi) vs. 2% dodge .97% less dodge
0str - 27.83 str (BoK and vitality) = +1.4 block value, +56 AP
Sockets and bonus are identical
55.44 stamina vs 94.71 stamina (BoK and vitality) = 39.27 less stamina
36 defense vs 30 defense + 6 defense rating
30 vs 29 block rating = +1 block rating)
35 vs 45 block value = - 10 block value.
Add that all up, and you get this with Onslaught vs. Faceplate:
+ 13 Armor
+ .93% Crit
+ 56 Attack Power
+ 1 Block Rating
- .97% Dodge
- 393 Health
- 8 Block Value
So, the Onslaught Greathelm is superior for generating threat.
The Faceplate of the Impenetrable is superior for avoidance and mitigation.
评论来自
48508
I agree that all that Str and Agi on this helm sucks. I really wish Blizzard would fix the itemization or better yet, fix Strength for tanks so it's a meaningful stat! How about a 1-1 ratio for Strength to Block Value instead of the current 20-1 ratio?
Personally, I love block value. It is a great mitigation stat making for steady even damage as well as great threat generation. I can stack my BV up to 1080 using this helm and the new BV gem but typically swap some pieces to get hit and expertise so I tank with around 950 BV. With the T5 set bonus and the autoblocker going I'm taking about 1400 off every incoming attack which is a big deal.
Stacking avoidance only leads to big strings of dodge/parries where you're completely rage starved followed by huge dmg that your healers aren't precasting for because you haven't needed a heal in 12 seconds. I know they should know better but I think every tank has seen it happen.
This helmet is one of the very few helmets in the game with block value and a meta socket. It's also got a lot of defense and block rating making it a good choice for a crushing immune set. It is low on HP overall but you can make that up in other pieces. For many encounters the difference between having 20k HP and 22k HP is negligible so I try not to get too hung up on it once I'm at a reasonable threshold.
评论来自
Elmarion
All in all, I would have to say that Battleworn Tuskguard is superior to this helm.
This helm would almost always be socketed to have the following stats:
Armor: 1549
Stamina: 79 (Assuming 5 agil 7 stam was used in the red socket and the 18 stam meta)
Dodge: 1.71% (including gains from the defense and agility)
Defense: 36 (1.83% total avoidance (0.61% to each type))
Block Value: 36.15 (1.15 from strength)
Block Rating: 30 (3.8%)
Compared to:
Armor: 1355
Stamina: 90
Dodge: 2.15% (including gains from defense)
Defense: 44 (2.2% total avoidance (0.73% to each type))
Block Value: 51
Now the question of which of the two is best is relatively easy. The Battleworn has actually got 19 more block value (after talents) than the t6 helm, and coupled with the 0.12% more parry it must be said that the threat increase of the t6 helm would be rather minimal overall, especially if the +10% meta were used instead (increasing the battleworn's stamina advantage). On the topic of effective health, the 11 stamina more (obviously a bigger margin buffed and talented) probably makes up for the lost armor with regard to EH, if not overriding it totally. The battleworn is however far superior on avoidance, which if you're killing archimonde a lot is of paramount importance as sunwell isn't that far away. 0.88% more avoidance is quite a lot, especially as 0.12% of that increase is parry (not affected by radiance). The block rating of the onslaught helm must be noted with regard to crush immunity passive, but again it's not a huge issue in most cases, as a lot of bosses do not crush in high end MH/BT.
Therefore, overall, I would have to say that the competition is close, but the battleworn tuskguard probably just beats the t6 helm ultimately, if not in every way. It's slight, but it's true.
Set bonus would be down to the respective warrior, but t6 is pretty much dire in general, so it's fairly irrelevant. Apart from shoulders and maybe legs, nobody sensible would wear t6 warrior tank gear.
评论来自
a1strank
Sadly, the Warrior T4 prot helm has more stam and block value than this.
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Vardoom
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