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评论来自
rejemy1017
This is the Dungeon Set 1 (Tier 0) breastplate designed for Warriors.
评论来自
111538
Nice armor, however now i dont think its worth the time to get. If you have BC go outlands. You can find way better items than this. (My own opinion)
评论来自
logic0
It used to be if you were in your full dungeon set your were awesome. Poeple would run the dungeons over and over and over, like 50+ times to complete these sets.
This was before people really knew much about stats and that most of the dungeon set was actually pretty useless for everything.
评论来自
Thottbot
^^ You proved you had no head when you rolled a Pali :o j/k :p
As for the LF/Pali Valor/Warrior Argument.
IF there is no Pali in the grp, and its an upgrade for the warrior, he should have Dibs on it.
And the same for the Pali, if no warriors are in the group, and its an upgrade for him, he should have dibs.
BUT, if a Warrior + Pali are grouped, Warrior has no right to roll on LF, and Pali has no right to roll on Valor.
评论来自
Thottbot
Heh you guy's are cracking me up getting all tense.
Just to calm you guys down a little bit, here's how WoW works when you're not a 13 year old child.
If Valor drops and there's a warrior, then that warrior takes it. No questions, unless warrior is already equipping it, then only then a pally has reason to take it (heck why not, its plate).
If Valor drops and there's no warrior, then pally rolls.
Why is it that it's so hard to understand this logic?
Ohh to all you babies out there, calm the %^&* down. If a pally refused NOT to roll, he/she will get booted form raid and probably be put on /ignore by everyone. You can kiss his WoW character good bye from there.
评论来自
Thottbot
TIER 1 TIER 2 TIER 3 Class
Valor Might Wrath (Warrior)
Lightforge Lawbringer Judgement (Paladin)
Shadowcraft Nightslayer Bloodfang (Rogue)
Wildheart Cenarion Stormrage (Druid)
Magister Arcanist Netherwind (Mage)
Devout Prophecy Transendence (Priest)
Dreadmist Felheart Nemesis (Warlock)
Elements Earthfury Ten Storms (Shaman)
Beaststalker Giantstalker Dragonstalker (Hunter)
These are the various class sets, forgive me if I forgot anything. Tier 1 sets are found in blue instances, easy instances. So your argument for us to get might is really retarded considering they are in instances like Molten Core which are hard as hell to beat. Anyways, i made that little guide to any pallies that may be confused as to which set is for them, enjoy :)
BTW, It's spelled valOr not valEr.
评论来自
Thottbot
Valor is for warriors not pallys. Only way a pally should get valor is if all the warriors in the group have it. Good thing im horde and dont have to mess with greedy pallys.
评论来自
Thottbot
It's called an honor code. I am a warrior and I could easily roll for a dwarven hand cannon, since blizzard has not restricted me doing so. Does this mean it's right to roll against a hunter that actually needs it? No. People who use that argument are usually close relatives of defense lawyers.
Know your role, and know what is fair and what isn't fair.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm getting tired of Pallys yelling about owning a warrior in PVP whenever a question of who gets what comes up. Here are the basic facts:
Any group would rather choose a warrior than a pally for these higher instances for one simple fact; we don't die out in 2 seconds against 5 elites or 1 boss. So of course you want your main punching bag to specced in the best gear because the longer the warrior keeps standing the longer the group lives.
Many times in MC I've seen Pallies in cloth for the extra mana and fire resistance to be auxilary healers.
Until you get 40 people the higher level class specific items are unavailable and the valor set is the best for warriors that can't get to said instances.
Lightforge is specifically geared towards pallies because any item that has + int is not meant for warriors. Rage isn't about mental capacity. So pallies roll on that and enjoy the extra mana.
My final comment is on the roll on anything you can mentality. Good luck finding groups my guild black lists people who can't understand their roles in an instance I hate to see what people will do when you ninja some good loot.
评论来自
Thottbot
Most of you are utter retards you're just whining cos you don't like getting outrolled. There are probably about 2 people who have been outrolled by a paladin for this piece. Getting outrolled is just something you have to live with, it's an online game for christ's sake, @#$% happens. So go get a brain, realise there are other people in the world who want to succeed in the game just as well as you, and wait your ^&*!ing turn. I've gotten outrolled on valor a zillion times, but I keep going back to UBRS hoping I will get my chest sometime, and besides, I'm getting shots at the chromatic carapace and scales too.
But the people who are saying paladins are right by rolling valor...yes in response to this I'd say most warriors deserve it but because you think paladins can use it better? That is utter bull%^&*, it's been said time and time again it's meant for warriors, if you don't like lightforge then
DON'T !@#$ING PLAY A PALADIN!
Seriously I cannot stress that enough, and if you can't take being outrolled you shouldn't play the game, it's not a situation where everything has to work out after all. Life is fickle, so is the game, quit whining and start playing and enjoying the game.
评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.schilderartig.nl/albums/wolf/valor.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
If I were you? I would CHOOSE to reroll warrior you ^&*!ing cupcake.
评论来自
Thottbot
It took me 60 runs to get this final piece of the valor set.
By the time I got it, I wasn't wearing any valor for tanking, and was wearing only the shoulders (and now the chest) for PvP.
It's still a great looking set aside from the hat.
评论来自
Thottbot
Wars and dins get %^&*ed with Drakk. The drop rates for LF and Valor off him are less that 6%. Why did bliz make three bosses that drop the set items for all classes... It sucks for alliance and horde when Elements/Lightforge (respective toward each side) drops off a boss. Anyone want to stab the designer of this bull!@#$?
评论来自
Thottbot
After a dozen runs, It finally dropped, and after all my bad luck some fortune comes up, I rolled a 97 and won it.
Good way to end a bad night.
评论来自
Thottbot
you know, there is an easy way to get great PvP gear without pissing anyone off. PvP for it :P wasnt that hard?
评论来自
Thottbot
i was in an end game guild. so i was fortunate enough to have skiped valor. but i $%^&ed up with the dkp/srp and now im in a guild that barley run ZG -_-, i thought i had to start all the way back down with valor when i saw it!
THIS IS FOR ANY WARRIORS IN MY SITUATION
Herosim set FTW^^
herosim is coming out...and stupid cheap pallies cant bid on it, i think its cuztamized for warrs only
anyway run high lvl instances a few times and ull have it in no time
thank you Blizz for the awsome easy to get set^^
评论来自
Thottbot
I came here to read about the Breastplate.
All I get is Pally vs Warrior crap.
TALK ABOUT THE EFFING BREASTPLATE.
评论来自
Thottbot
No more pallies talkin about how the armor is not class specific after it showed up on the net with a warrior wearing valor and a pally wearing lightforge.
Haha what now pallies. WHAT NOW!
评论来自
Thottbot
All you people #$%^&ing that PALADIN NINJAD MY VALOR AND MY HEARTHSTONE AND MY FOODSTAMPS, give it a rest. Delete your character and roll a Horde warrior, we're better anyway.
That being said, I would be !@#$ing MAD if some *!@#-cock paladin rolled on my valor.
Snock
60 Warrior
Bleeding Hollow
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a post I threw up on the Spaulder of Valor thread about a week ago and I think it should be posted on all 8 set piece threads but I'm too lazy to do it. However, this thread seemed to be the longest of any of them so I had to C&P; it here:
The bottom line on whether paladins should be able to roll on Valor set items is easy to determine and it's something I have not seen mentioned on any of the threads for the 8 Valor pieces (although I must admit I have not read every post on all 8 threads). The bottom line is this: The Valor set upgrades into the Heroism set through a series of quests obtained in Orgrimmar if you're Horde and either Ironforge or Stormwind if you're alliance. Paladins CAN NOT receive these quests. If a Paladin goes to get his or her upgrade quest they reveive the quest for the Lightforge set (and I apologize for not knowing what that upgrades to but I'm on Horde side 60 warrior). THAT is the bottom line. Yes, a paladin can equip any of the pieces of the valor set, but they can not get the full usefulness out of them that a warrior can. Therefore, if you are in a group and a piece of Valor armor drops it should go to a warrior first and if none of the warriors present needs it then and ONLY then should a paladin be allowed to roll on it. End of story, thank you for playing.
评论来自
Thottbot
Im sorry to interrupt this very importent subject but i hvae a real question for the valor set. Right now im doing the upgrade not knowing what to use it for O.o Valor can be use for soloing and i've seen many warriors use it in Battlegrounds too. But can it also be used for tanking? i know i should get a tanking gear too. but. is the heroism/valor really worth collecting if it cant be used to complete the most importent task for a warrior - tanking? Its really bugging me. i would love to read some comments on this.
评论来自
Thottbot
Jesus a pally is a healer/^&*!ty tank. Valorand heroism are soley for a warrior who doesn't want to have armor for soloing and armor for tanking etc. PAlly's armor (LF) has bonusis for their own class. Just like valor has its class bonusis. Warriors need their armor way wayyyyyyyyyyy more then a pally. so don't get into BS about a pally who thinks that mana doesn't matter or healing and attack power against undead doesn't do @#$% for them. Warriors have 1 job so they need an armor that has stats for 1 job just alot bigger stats. LF is more healing stats, bsmall tanking stats, and support stats. give us warriors a #$%^ing break!
评论来自
Thottbot
I just read tough most of the thread, and being a warrior, i naturally stand at my fellow Warriors's side.
Now to reply you all paladins saying "Well Blizzard didnt write "Warrior set" on it, meaning its ok to roll for us Pallies"
Wrong!
Just by looking at the stats, you make out it being for WARRIORS. Now, i understand some of you might be ret, but who the hell keeps full ret after 60, wont get much raid spots and/or guilds that way, from my experiences.
ANOTHER thing to prove you wrong.
The first quest in 0.5 quest, the girl says "I have a piece of armor, used by your proffession, although very upgraded" or like that- and she says you must turn in a piece of valor bracers. This quest is WARRIOR only, wich makes Blizzard, in a way, write WARRIOR over Valor set.
Sorry for bad spelling/grammars
评论来自
Thottbot
Lol what are you pallys talking about? Look at our upgrade quest Lightforge-Soulforge not Valor-Soulforge. Your only making harder on yourself and the warrior because you took his chest and now you find out you cant upgrade it :( so sad.. now you gotta get a UBRS group together and hope the your chest drops!
Once a pally took my valor chest on my warrior, I was very furious..well about 2 weeks later Im in another group with him and he says 'I need my lightfroge chest'. We down Drakk and it droped well my friend was the leader so for revenge he gave it to me and I ran around him wearing it! for about that next hour hes spamming to me 'NINJA' and in IF hes spamming that im a ninja but noone is listening to him
评论来自
Thottbot
No clue how to get this and was just wondering. If ya know plz tell me
评论来自
Thottbot
I agree with pretty much everything posted here. I agree that warriors should get the first chance to roll on any valor pieces. I agree that the valor set is warrior only(it should be obvious to anyone who knows anything, that it is). The only thing I don't agree with is the LF vs Valor for a ret spec'd paladin. Yea intelligence is nice for a ret paladin and all, but intell is purely used for mana pool/regen(not proc crits, which is where the pallies dps comes from). Compare intell for a ret pallie to spirit as a warrior. It's nice yea, but essential? Nah. For ret paladins high agility causes crits for the two main DPS talents in the ret tree(SoC, Crusader Strike). When grinding most ret pallies roll with judgement of mana, SoC, and maybe an intell buff. So for most properly trained ret paladins Valor is better than LF.
That being said
, I still agree that any paladin rolling against a warrior for valor should be thrown to the wolves. Either buy what pieces you can off AH or deal with LF and upgrade your pieces ASAP.
PS:
With the right gear ret pallies CAN dps as well as any other melee class. Also properly geared and well trained prot pallies can tank very well. Righteous Defense has the same effect as any taunt.
评论来自
Thottbot
If it's an upgrade, then roll need, if you wanna d/e or vendor, greed. That means, if a bow drops with +agi,str,sta and theres a warrior and a hunter, or hunter vs rogue, they both roll on it, same with valor.
评论来自
Thottbot
Must have done this run 50 times. Never dropped. There was another warrior who'd done it over a hundred times easily, and had never seen it. Saw the Draconian Deflector just once. Pally rolled on it and won.
I do not have many fond memories of that place.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a warrior teir set, no one but warriors should roll on it.
if you dont believe me go to worldofwarcraft.com, go to the left toolbar, look for items, then go to high level armor. it shows all the teirs for every race and every class. valor is listed as warrior teir 1 set
评论来自
Thottbot
dudes wtf even on the offcial (miss spell) WORLD OF WARCRAFT SITE it says that THIS IS A WARRIOR ITEM set and with that said i would really slight a pallys necks if he needs this if a warrior is in the group
评论来自
Allakhazam
full valor set on a human warrior
Edited, Thu Jun 16 09:35:10 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMFG Gorfast stfu cause this ain't warriors only set so pala WON it, not NINJAD
评论来自
Allakhazam
been about 5 times for my valor bp and spaulders of valor have dropped 3 times in a row
勇气肩甲
and this has not dropped once :S
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
yeah i would like to see UD warrior with that set too :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
the only problem is i dont see orcs as very Valor like i see them more as something i step on after i kill one
评论来自
Allakhazam
the looting rules would go smoother if you set it up
-Class
-need
-greed
There is nothing more angering than someone rolling on something that that they can get the full use out of. Now in this case if the warriors all pass then go to the next level down then so on. Simple. Ninjas need to be burned at the stake :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hi all,
well i have been in UBRS 19 times now only have seen it drop once so i would like to know the math that blizzard did to say that it has 7% droprate. The same i can say abuot the helm $%^&ing annoying going to scholomace endless times and never seen it drop. Chromatic Breastplate seems much easyer to get then this one :(.
Hope they recalculate this drop % or make an algorithm to determine the times players have been/completed the instance and make it drop nonstop. (this last paragraph is just my frustration on dedicating so much time on something that never drops, at least for me)
评论来自
Allakhazam
got mine today so happy just need the helm and shoulders :P
Edited, Oct 30th 2006 at 3:22pm PST by powellgeorges
评论来自
Allakhazam
nice picture update there, I don't mind this, as I've seen the full set but this shows NOTHING of the breastplate. the shoulders block it thanks to the orc's hunchbackness.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i was in BRS, i lost my loot against a hunter for a doomsaw, and now this story is about the BP of valor. so was in a very good raid with 3 warriors. one of them had might BP and the other had the chromatic flight BP. i asked each one of them if i can have it and they let me roll, but right at the end, the guy with might BP rolled. i was like OMFG! blizzard hates me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A funny story about this.
The first time I went to UBRS,I wanted valor so much.When we killed blackhand,the shoulders dropped,but another warrior rolled higher(I nearly cried).But then we killed drakk and this dropped.I couldent belive it,and I won the roll.
Plus 2 of my mates got the bracers of valor for me as a christmas present:)
Theres one thing about the new 0.5 set(shown below me) and that is that it is a warrior set only,which means if a pala has the whole valor set,he cant upgrade to 0.5.
Makes you wonder why blizz didnt make this set a warrior only set.
As for the colour of the set,it aint that bad,the problem though is that all 0.5 gear is just different versions of the 0 gear(only with different colours and half the gear being epics)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hey I got the shoulders and the breatsplate and the +def helm on my first run! Oh roll items, you so crazy!
评论来自
Allakhazam
new colors coming in 1.10. upgradeable from valor. (honesly am a little disappointed with this one. aside from the cool shading they do in the new one, i think valor has better color scheme. feels like blizzard spilled paint on this one :/)
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6215471166.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Valor is warrior set, nothing is more hatefull than paladins who roll on the items we need
评论来自
Allakhazam
LOL my first run in UBRS and i get this drop PLUS the shoulders, IM SO HAPPY :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is this drop rate for it really 7%? Just thought it would be at least 12% or so.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Have this on my pally - good stuff.
Lucky no-one in the raid needed(had it already).
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got lucky and won this and Painweaver Band on my 3rd run.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dropped on my first ever UBRS run. Both myself and the other warrior rolled for it, I won, was in a really good mood when Paile (a paladin) ninja'd it.
Looking at the drop rate it will be a long time before I get this now.
If you see a paladin called Pail running around on Stormrage with this, prod him for me please and tell him to respect class roles in the future
Edited, Tue Sep 13 07:40:11 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wohoo.. recalculated droprates.. 2,35 droprate:P
评论来自
Allakhazam
Mostly a Warrior set, but do u think i uld get crucified if i, a pally rolled on it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
ive got to say the valor is the best looking set
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, heres my story:
First UBRS run with my guild, I already ran MC with them a few times, so we were pretty organized because of that. We down rend and his mount drops the skull helmet of fire resist...but a Pally outrolls me on it, so yeah, I felt pretty pissed..its a + def helm. So we get to rend and all the other warrior has been talking about how happy he was to get his new breastplate and how it has never dropped, I keep mentioning that I am going to roll on it too and he responds with: "Congratulations?"...I roll and I win it, he gets pissed and logs off, GG
评论来自
Allakhazam
well i had just gotten out of ZG, when a friend invited me to a UBRS run. Now i have been there close to 70 times looking for this damn thing. We kill drak, I whisper to a friend " yeah watch no valor again", when there it is finally. I won the roll against another warrior. I have to say, it took way to long, but it was worth it. Full Set Complete.
评论来自
Allakhazam
soooooooooooooooooooooo glad my war is horde! all you alliance wars have to deal with the stupid or greedy paladins wanting all your tanking plate. they just don't understand that a paladin/shaman, at 60, is meant to be a HEALER and BUFFER, not TANK. this is why i made a war instead. i know this. i have 60warlock that was running mc, the wars are the only TANKS, the paladins are healers, and buffers. just out of skill, our late leader tried to MT onxyia on his paladin, and it worked, but it took soo much more effort then lesser geared warriors. being a war may sux real bad early and mid game, but at 60.... hehehe, it doesnt.
i may not be able to kill a paladin with all their heals and divine shield(and the good old bubble->hearth)but id rather fight them, then have to roll against them for gear! i on the other hand, stand next to a shaman, that can't use my plate one bit:) can't kill either of them as a war(at least not in the early lvls), so why not fight the one that takes your gear, and ally with the one that can't? ive seen endless wars and pals fighting for gear, just like dumb priests that want dreadmist, but ill never have any of those problems.
评论来自
Allakhazam
It looks pretty much like the rest of the set. That image shows the whole set, so use a little imagination ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
haha for runs with something this valuable perhaps placing looting judgement in the hands of someone you truly trust is the best policy? afterall ninjas can fool blizzards code but they cant fool you :) ive done scholomance and ubrs a couple of times on master looter and weve never had any hard feelings on a roll.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone ever seen this set on a undead warrior? or does anyone have a pic of what it could look like?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wel ive done about 47 runs for this chestpiece. Then one day i transfered from feathermoon to rexxar becuase my friends went. SO one of my friends says "hey lets try to break in this realm a bit so we get used to it". I said sure i knew this breastplate wouldn't drp. I was just there to help someone get painweaver band. And then al of a sudden my friend says ah crap. SO i knew painweaver wouldnt drp. Prob a sc chest or sometin. Then he says gratz. And i was like hey gratz. Then my freiend says no gratz to u. And then i got My valor chest. And i got the piece i always wanted. But i stil dont have my valor helm notin but lightforge drps though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is how it looks on an undead:
you can check it
here
C U
评论来自
Allakhazam
I absolutely love being a warrior on Horde. Absolutely No other classes to share the plate armor with if what i need to roll on drops.
Edited, Sun Sep 25 11:49:29 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Gosh, look on the orc there, the shoulders are so large it looks like he has porblems wearing them
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