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评论来自
Chillincold
Guide to discovering potions/flasks/elixirs/transmutes.
For the casual gamer:
- Make sure your transmutation is always on cooldown. (You would probably log in at the same time everyday for a few hours, so keep a few reagents in your bag and do a transmute everytime its up.)
- Make potions and elixirs that you use although buying them from the auction house maybe cheaper than buying the reagents. ( You would probably have a cash flow set back so my advice is to have your second profession as herbalism to have a continuous supply of your own reagents.)
- Make yourself known to your guildmates and in game friends that you are an alchemist so that when party/raid members run low on potions/elixirs you can make some on the spot and charge them for it. (Try to keep stock of vials and herbs for potions/elixirs that move fast e.g netherbloom, terocone, mountain silversage, felweed, dreaming glory, etc...)
- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a potion master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a casual gamer trying to be a mobile alchemy auction house, potions are the most likely item people run out of that are essential to a raid/heroic.)
For the power gamer:
- Your transmutation timer has no excuse to be up. (If you're absent minded or loose track of time, set an alarm.)
- Make potions and elixirs that suffice your usage. Craft the item of your chosen mastery. Spread your crafts on a few items so you don't flood the auction house with one item. You should be able to be the most competetive seller since your procs yield you extra items. ( After a week or two you will be familiar with the items that sell and those that dont. Make more of the ones that do sell.)
- Make macros to advertise yourself as an alchemist on general chat when you cross teritories and trade chat when ur at a major city. (I find that listing some of your best potions/elixirs/flasks helps because not everyone is an alchemist and not everyone knows the available items in alchemy.)
- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a elixir master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a power gamer can spread his liabilities as there are a lot more elixirs compared to potions and such a gamer would be able to gather materials to create flasks {falls under elixir mastery}.)
Tips
- Always have reagents in your bag. If you run low on bag space priorotise for reagents on tansmutations.
- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know prices or download a mod that helps do it for you. I have mods but I still rely on my memory for all alchemy stuff because for alchemy its not an average of price over time. Its the price on that day, that week or that month. If your server is in end game you will be looking at completely different prices of all alchemy items compared to a server that has newly begun.
- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know your competitiors. If you can't beat their prices make a pact with them (e.g. you make certain items they make certain items, or if you're different masteries you should recomend your fellow customers to each other.)
- {More for power gamers} Be up to date on how far and how fast your server is progressing. This way you can be the first to be there with the items. (e.g. I sold more than 250 stacks of greater arcane protection potions alothough i knew how to make major arcane protection potions. At this point in time we're 3-4 months into the expansion and most players are still trying to save up cash or simply can't afford the major potions. On my server now, most guilds dont need them for the curator fight in karazhan but before they were experienced in taking him down they we're willing to pay my outrageous prices to have an edge on the encounters.)
评论来自
Chillincold
Dirty tricks:
Knowing the backdoors in every game and business encounter definately helps. Since this is the low down section of my thread, and undenyably unscrupulous. I will only let you in on one of the not so sinster of my plots. (For my own conscience sake I don't want to corrupt the world.)
- {For herbalists} If you know of an item that sells well but its reagents are never on the auction house, create an alternate character and park him at an auction house. Advertise items that require this reagent and sell it for double or triple the price on your alternate character so that the buyer doesn't know that its you. (e.g. Not many people know about greater arcane elixir, and its a great elixir for casters altough its a lower level elixir compared to post TBC items. I sell reagents such as dreamfoil and mountain silversage at triple the normal price on my alternate character. My customers usually ask me if they are usually that expensive, I either tell them "Yeah thats the normal price nowadays." or "Thats cheap!!")
From past experience I have to state this for my peace of mind. Please dont send me a mail or ask me for more details on the "Dirty tricks" section. Thank you for reading my post, and if you slept half way... DUDE/DUDET you missed out, what were you thinking trying to sleep in one of my lectures!
评论来自
62139
Personally, I think the casual gamer might be better off with transmute mastery.
Not only is it really easy to just keep a few primals around for sale but you will always make money. Mastering transmutes just means you'll make more money. The biggest advantage is that you never have to farm herbs. In fact, on both of my alchemists, I dropped herbalism because I hate farming. Now I just use transmutes as a way to make mad cash and I can make potions/elixers if I need them.
评论来自
starshot
the real question is are they worth having at all..... wen you think about it in the time after transmuting with the cooldown you could have farmed 10x more of the primal you just made and others and could be well on your way to a might and more tomorrow.....
so in a way there almost no point unless they down the colldown on transmuts
评论来自
Samboda
Possible primal transmutes are :
Air ==> Fire ==> Earth ==> Water ==> Air
Fire <=> Mana
Earth <=> Life
Water <=> Shadow
评论来自
Toldry
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Life
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评论来自
Ludwick
Requirements to make a discovery
You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.
As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.
NOT requirements to make a discovery
You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)
List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)
Flasks
Flask of Blinding Light
Flask of Fortification
Flask of Mighty Restoration
Flask of Pure Death
Flask of Relentless Assault
Potions
Super Rejuvenation Potion
Transmutes
Earth to Life
Life to Earth
Shadow to Water
Water to Shadow
Fire to Mana
Mana to Fire
Cauldrons
- To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection
评论来自
Allakhazam
Discovered this while transmuting an Earthstorm diamond. Received an extra diamond at the same time, which was my first additional item since becoming a transmute specialist (third transmute).
I was surprised and excited that I learned something that I will use. Send me a message on the Antonidas server, if you need this done.
Edited, Mar 28th 2008 1:26pm by sederix
评论来自
Allakhazam
what all do you need to do in order to make the discovery, do you have to learn to be master in transmutes or can mastery in potions also discover it? do you need to be maxed out? do you need to be doing a transmute at the time? what goes into discovery's?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Where does this pattren from? Or is it learned
评论来自
Allakhazam
what all do you need to do in order to make the discovery, do you have to learn to be master in transmutes or can mastery in potions also discover it? do you need to be maxed out? do you need to be doing a transmute at the time? what goes into discovery's?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am a xmute spec alchemist and discovered this while xmuting an Earthstorm diamond
评论来自
Allakhazam
I discovered this ability during a Primal Might x-mute. It also proc'd an extra Primal Might during--finally.
Transmute spec'd Alchemist. I finally got an 'extra' proc after about 9 x-mutes of various items.
I've x-muted 8 Primal Mights, 1 Earthstorm Diamond before my specialization paid off. I have also transmuted numerous Arcanite when I didn't have Primals for TBC x-mutes (although I don't know if Arcanite x-mute counts toward a chance at discovery).
It can happen.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just learned by transmuting primal earth to water, was at 372 skill, became 373 and learned the new skill.
评论来自
Thottbot
u dont get it, u discover it randomly by making other transmutes.
评论来自
Thottbot
Discovered today while transmuting primal earth seem very rare discovery but useless as well...
Post a pic of it..
See ya
评论来自
Thottbot
I do a transmute per day in hopes of making a discovery and I got my first transmute discovery just now. It was a Primal Water to Primal Air conversion and I discovered the Primal Mana to Fire at the end of it.
By the way, I am potion-specced so you don't need to be transmute-specced to discover stuff like this.
评论来自
Thottbot
just learned doing primal earth into water... I just learned it from spore rep and it was my first time doing the primal earth into water.
Kirby!
评论来自
Thottbot
I discovered this one while making a green skill primal might.
评论来自
Thottbot
By the way, this goes well with it's counter part, fire to mana. If you need either of those mats and are transmute spec, get a primal mana/fire and do the transmute every day and hope for procs, auto farming ftw.
评论来自
Thottbot
Discovered from transmuting an Earthstorm Diamond. :D
链接
转化:源生法力至源生火焰
转化:源生法力至源生火焰
25秒 施法时间
20小时 冷却
需要等级 45
工具:
点金石
施法材料:
源生法力
将源生法力转化为源生火焰。
源生火焰
物品等级:65
最大叠加: 20
售价:
40
魔法增益
施法材料
源生法力
(
1
)
制造源生法力
(
1
)
法力微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生火焰至源生法力
(
1
)
源生火焰
(
1
)
制造源生火焰
(
1
)
火焰微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生空气至源生火焰
(
1
)
源生空气
(
1
)
制造源生空气
(
1
)
空气微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生之水至源生空气
(
1
)
源生之水
(
1
)
制造源生之水
(
1
)
水之微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生之土至源生之水
(
1
)
源生之土
(
1
)
制造源生之土
(
1
)
土之微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生生命至源生之土
(
1
)
源生生命
(
1
)
制造源生生命
(
1
)
生命微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生暗影至源生之水
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1
)
源生暗影
(
1
)
制造源生暗影
(
1
)
暗影微粒
(
10
)
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持续时间
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类型
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机制
发现
驱散类型
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GCD目录
n/a
成本
无
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
25秒
冷却
20小时
GCD
0秒
效果
Create Item
源生火焰
标记
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