Nope in my opinion I think that so far it seems like hes now a terrible ret-con into the story especially with having to be the ani-thrall.
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Not making excuses for blizzard but I think they right a lot of lore there not going to get it spot on every time. They probably need to have a bit more of a think about this one.
I think the Draenei would have fit in better if they were a VERY old race that had been forgotten and they have dug there city up from the under ground. But I agree when I left wow for a few months and I came back and Varian was the king, I thought he didn't fit in at all. The should have used a dynamic model for the child king so we would see him grow up and into a great leader.
I have the comics for Varian from issues 1-12, and I have to say that I like the comics and how the lore is built in the comics. The problem lies with the fact that they merged the comic and the game together in my opinion. The story in the comics is told from Varian's Ghost Wolf half, and that persona does overtake his calm half after they merge, and this retconning was necessary.If there were no morons in the story and all the leaders of the factions were lovable, the PvP would have to die off according to lore, in fact, I'm not even certain how PvP managed to survive in terms of lore in tBC and especially 2.4.Yes, he was retconned, and somewhat badly written, but I think it fits in nicely overall when looking at the big picture.To answer some of the questions you've mentioned in the topic, in the comics, if I recall correctly, he was being transported by the defias on the ships to be killed off when the ship was attacked by Naga, when the ship was destroyed. He was found among the shipwreck by a crocolisk, but he is a decent enough martial artist that he defended himself from a couple blows and used the weight of the crocolisk to impale it on a stick when it jumped on him not to mention he had assistance from an orc shaman, a bit more feasible if you read the comic.He is named croc-bait by the shaman who found him, Lo'Gosh is a title given to him by the masses when he defeated ogres in the final rounds in the Dire Maul Arena. The reason for the title reflects what you've quoted, the quote from the spectators being "Lo'Gosh, he lives." As in the audience believe that the spirit of the Lo'Gosh lived on through Varian.Relying on Wowwiki isn't always the ideal solution.Also, Garrosh's action in the Uldar trailer is nearly completely unprovoked for that scene alone.
Varian is a terrible Gary Stu shoehorned in with a rusty crowbar and my only hope for 3.2 is that something awful happens to him and he becomes a raid boss so that I can kill him every single week.
He is a raid boss on a 6 hr respawn timer.
Varian is simply bad designed as he is in game. They achieved the feat of making me, and I'm sure most Alliance players too, hate and spit on one of their leaders.I didn't know anything about what Valkrysa posted, and I thank him. Now I can perceive better my leader, and I wish there were more details like this in game. (But I still want Bolvar back)
He's the "hero" all kiddies are gonna love.Blood Elves kinda kill the ugly tribal atmosphere of the Horde, but without them the Alliance would beat the Horde population-wise in every single realm by a ratio of 3:1My point is, "Money moves the world (of warcraft)"
Kiddies loving Wrynn? Show me one.
Could Wrynn have been introduced more smoothly into the story, sans ham-fisted retcons and whatnot? Probably, yeah.Is he needed? YEAH, most definitely. This game's called World of WARcraft, my ladies and gentlemen. And there's been a suspicious lack of WAR for the last half-decade or so - not counting the constant ganking that goes on on PvP servers, or attacks on NPCs in various towns, settlements and whatnot.The STORY of WoW has not really had any war in it whatsoever, it has in fact been a stalemate, or even official cease-fire between the two sides. Varian was therefore needed to shake things up. And Garrosh is a magnificient counterpiece on the Horde side. I was really surprised to see how he'd changed in the fight he had with Thrall in the pre-Lich King undead assault. It was a startling change from the sulking, whiny prat he was in Garadar, and now he's growing even more insubordinate in the Ulduar introduction. By the next expansion at the latest I expect him to try and oust Thrall outright, and seize control of the horde for himself.It's going to be really, really interesting to see what Blizzard will do, lore-wise, from now on. I love it how Varian and Garrosh has shaken things up so far, I was becoming quite burnt out on WoW. The latest Ulduar developments has slightly re-kindled my interest. :) Now, if only Blizzard could move the plot along on a more steady basis than a few times every couple years... :(
Varian is almost as bad as Fandral Staghelm, except that he's driven by a devotion to his people (and the rest of the Alliance) rather than a lust for power. A perfect old-school Alliance leader along the lines of Daelin Proudmoore to shake some essential conflict into the story! (And I play Alliance too) I'd actually defend Varian though, if Hordies go for Staghelm, I'd cheer them on. <_<Yes, his lore history is decidedly shaky and forced. So is a lot of Warcraft lore; Bridenbrad's tale for one. Granted, that was more about Tiron's honor than Bridenbrad's tale, but we had never previously heard about this "great and valorous" crusader. So while Varian is kinda forced in, I'm glad he's here. Also, he seems more like the anti-Garrosh than the anti-Thrall.
I agree with you that Varian was sort of shoe-horned into the story line but I think that means that he's going to be a major part of the storyline. Here's my guess as to what's going to happen to Varian:Varian and Garosh will eventually combine to become the new lich king after Arthas is downed. They're so full of hate and bitterness; it makes sense to me.