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Hah...can't wait for all the LF someone with Mists +2 key, faceroll dungeon, wait for timer to run out, then faceroll over and over again!1350 valor in 2.5 hours!
How I see it:*If you don't want to do lower keys, you don't.*Players with high ilvl in lower keys are a great help for those alts who need quick equipment
Oh, how could they make this mistake again?Higher keys are more difficult and require better rewards to be appealing over lower keys. The obvious course of action is to spam low fast keys to collect valor quickly. (e.g. we saw what people were doing when attempting to farm AP back in Legion with MoS) If there is no difference in relevant rewards, the quick and easy wins. Why does the Dev Team keep making this same mistake? Systems design is hard but... not that hard in this case.
It is bold of people to assume they will get a drop worth upgrading before maxing the 5k Valor cap.This is only a realistic problem right now, because we are starting with a mid patch cap. You nearly cap it just by doing 4 m+ for 2 weekly drops.(and you do cap it if you did the daily callings). Assuming you are a returning player in a later patch, not only do you have to first get KSM. you have to gear up to even being able to do that and getting the raider io to be taken seriously and invited to 15s in the first place, after which point running +2s just for Valor is far less likely something you need to think about for a good number of upgraded items.Now if you get very lucky you might be put in a situation where AFTER running your weekly vault runs you are better off running +2s, but that is realistically only the best option for Valor IF you do not need ANY other item to be able upgrade. Otherwise it will be far more efficient to farm whatever dungeon drops your other BiS trinket while getting Valor.Also even if someone pays for a KSM boost, they still need to farm the item at a high enough ilvl or it doesn't matter they get to farm +2s when they are paying 3-4 times as much Valor just to upgrade their pieces to 220.The only reason to farm Valor from +2s is if you are the luckiest person ever or literally cannot benefit from 220 upgrades beyond a single item or two(and get reasonably lucky) and even then you barely have to do any and never again interact with +2s because Valor won't give you an upgrade till it needs another KSM and you have to gather it again for a brand new season.
LFM +4 MOTS VALOR SPAM 210+ Ilvl 1400 ioThanks blizzard.
you can do 4 high keys for vault and then spam low keys, time is money
i get that ppl are pissed about this, especially that this wasnt announced, but tested on live and announced by wowhead instead of blizzard... i get the feeling, when looking at past changes, blizzard will announce a thing ppl have been craving for, but build in a genie-esque twist, wait until the #$%^show explodes in commentsections... and then kind of fix the problem, so everybody is kind of at ease again... it feels like "lets do the a ^&*!ty version of what we really intend to do, so that players will accept our fix, which was really our original intend" am i being paranoid here? well i hope i am cause it would feel SO idiotic if this was the case
This is going to hurt alts and new people. How many people will invite the people in gear suitable to low level keys if the someone 220 is signing up for quick VP
NW Mount runs incoming !
Idk, maybe this is to encourage high end players to play low keys and then progress if they want to ?BUT if that is the case. Make sure to end newbies to your low level spam. You would be helping your self and someone else.
Well it work just like pvp I guess ? One type of content gives a specific amount of the currency no matter your m+ level / cr.
Nah, even the azerite armor system awarded more upgrade currency for higher level keys. Make it +15 valor per key level and we are all good. There is a difference in timing 22 and 2, why should the reward, whatever it is, be the same?
Very good, maw of souls everywhere *_*
it's pretty obvious it's a catch up system that's why drops is the same in all keys, I don't get why everyone is omg... who do +20 will storm any +15...
Even moving from a +14 to a +15 basically saves you between 250 and 1000 VPs depending on the item. And since everything timed >= 15 increases the chance of additional loot in the end-dungeon chest, you'll reduce the grind for specific items when doing keys >15. It only makes sense to farm +2s if you already have the items you want and only need to upgrade them (and already did your 10 high keys for the week). Therefore, I don't really see a problem here.. People who can, will grind their specific >=15s to reduce the VP they have to spend on further upgrading their items and while grinding those dungeons, they'll also earn the VPs needed to upgrade their 210 items to 220.
i think its good :) higher keys shouldnt reward higher amount of a currency, they already have higher loot
It's the perfect week to gear an alt then. Many players will be running lower keys to cap the 5000 valor points.