Sad to see that Blizzard decided to make a story on a Hype of Hate.They add this ugly stuff about Night Elves joining to forsakens knowing that that will bring a lot of talks and a lot of hate. Spitting on NE fans make Night Elves haters happy, just look on this thread, so much happynes I see. Instead of cheer for NE who have suffered so much you laugh, Sylvanas fans I hope you will suffer the same. But I will not follow this. Blizzard spits on Night Elves fans, and f*ck them than. Hope they will enjoy playing in the World Of Sylvanas Fans alone, because I have enough. Good buy.
Wow this comment section is full of salt and every comment keeps saying "Why would the elves be willing ?" Yeah well you clearly don't have any idea how a living beeing mind works,almost everyone has a fear of death and would rather accept a 2nd chance even if that means they will become undead and would have to fight their own ppl not everyone is a diehard patriot
The real Night Elve fan should rejoices to see the night elves from war3 back in 8.1 instead of seeing night elve doing nothing.Those who cry and claim about bad writing when the story doesn't suit them need to think again. Blizzard by removing night elve land and capital city give them a way to return to their old ways, savage, strong and extremist.And some of them chose the horde side because it's their only solution if they want to live. The Alliance, Elune, Tyrande and their own people fail and forget them.I'm sad that so called night elve fan cry and think night elve are only pure and loyal people, happy to be Alliance.
I imagine the raised night elves are very similar to the Cata-raised Forsaken. "Hey guy your home is gone and your friends and family revile your existence. Either die or start your new life with those who accept you." So if you'd like to bash into this, you're bashing into Forsaken lore as well.I would also like to point out the Darkshore scenario is a loss for the Horde. One of the Lich King's PRIME Valkyr has been slain in exchange for a resurrected captain and a resurrected warden. For those who think that Nathanos and co. completed their mission and are happy, think again. At no point is Delaryn/Sira worth more than one of Sylvanas's greater valkyr.
Let's see about the loyalty of night elves:First there's Azshara's highborne that sided with the legion against their own kind. You can argue that they were the elite who didn't care about the lives of their subordinates.Then you have the noble Nightelves under Sunstrider that DID join the rebellion but were unwilling to give up their birthright of arcane magic and preferred exile over abandoning it. Their decendants the blood elves hate night elves with a passion greater than orcs and humans.Then we have the Satyr but there you can claim that they were from the Azshara-group or were corrupted. But still, let's add them here.Finally you have the Druids of the Flame. Even when you ignore the gone insane Fandral Staghelm (who while sane remained a constant opposition of Tyrande's rule and probably would have started a coup if things went differently), most of them were normal Night elves that were fed up with Malfurion's passivity on the horde's attacks on elve ground and joined with ragnaros to fight not the horde, BUT THEIR OWN PEOPLE (primarily Malfurion an the druidic culture he created).Now tell me, is it impossible that a bunch of night elves had a grudge on Tyrande, who bows her head for a boy-king, on Malfurion who could've fought against the horde but remained neutral time and time again until it was too late or on the alliance, most of them short-lived lesser (there are nelves who think that) races, who left them alone on their hour of need?IT THIS IMPOSSIBLE?
I'm gonna repost here something I've posted about the Dark-Ranger Round-Up quest in both Reddit and the official PTR forums:Dear Blizzard:What is this “Val’kyr can’t raise unwilling Night Elf spirits” thing? Nobody had any issues raising anybody of any race back in Wrath, Blizzard. And Night Elves have been raised involuntarily since the War of the Ancients.Arthas’ living cultists, who weren’t half as powerful as his Val’kyr (to start with because unlike the Undead they did not have access to the Lich King’s power, they were simply human necromancers trained by Kel’thuzad), raised every race and they didn’t bat an eye if the spirit was unwilling.We can see that happen right before us in the Acherus ; all we need is to hang around Razuvius for a while and he shows it to us firsthand.Also, Night Elf Death Knights? Those people who died fighting the Scourge and swore to spend the remaining of their wretched existence fighting to protect the living and the dead from what was done to them, because they never wanted to come back in the first place and are now damned?They didn’t want to be raised either.You cannot use this excuse to attempt to make what Sylvanas is doing some sort of morally gray “It’s not so bad” act. It goes against everything in your own Necromancy lore.In Warcraft, necromancy is stronger than any soul’s will. It doesn’t matter if the soul becomes a wisp, if it’s automatically taken by Bwonsamdi for protection, if their ancestors come to take it to bovine Heaven or if the Light itself comes to claim it: WoW necromancy works by trapping the soul and violently dragging it kicking and screaming from wherever it is back into its former body or to a magically-prepared construct such as Banshee shackles or Liches’ phylacteries.Just to make it absolutely clear:The root of the problem isn’t if the Val’kyr will only raise the willing souls or not. It is how the quest works.You go out with the Val’kyr, you kill people and the Val’kyr casts the spell, an AoE, on the freshly-dead bodies.Then some of them get up, and some of them don’t. Instead, their souls (in wisp form) attack you, the player.That is the part that can’t happen according to the Lore. A soul cannot avoid being bound back into it’s dead body through necromancy.The only way, in canon, for a soul to avoid being brought back is for it to be severed from the body before death. That’s what happens to Crusader Bridenbrad in Icecrown - and it takes three entire adult Na’aru combining their power to do that.Once the person died , there’s no way for the soul to escape being bound to the body by Necromancy. It doesn’t happen anywhere in Warcraft Lore, and the contrary - souls being unwillingly bound to the body without chance of reaction - is the norm in all the accounts, no matter the race of the person raised.As a suggestion to how to fix your mistake: make the Val’kyr tell Nathanos that they have found wisps that are willing to come back to life among the dead. Make the quest become finding those wisps and raising them instead of killing people to be raised.An alternative suggestion would be to have all the Night Elves raised back get up, and have those who are unwilling attack the player immediately, making the player kill them again.Both alternatives keep the quest objectives what you want and won’t characterize a retcon.Sources I’ve researched and that back up this post:Novels: the War of the Ancients Trilogy, Beyond the Dark Portal, Lord of the Clans, Arthas, Chronicle I, II and IIIComics and Graphic Novels: Death Knight, AshbringerWoW in-game books, quests, events and dialogues: all of those pertaining to Undead lore, found in the Acherus starting area, the Scarlet Monastery, the Classic Undead leveling experience and the information in Classic Undercity; also Stratholme, Scholomance, the classic Shadowfang Keep, and throughout Northrend, its dungeons and raids.Ty for your time and I really hope you can fix this issue.P.S.: Italics/bold text used for emphasis.