It’s no surprise Metzen sides with Saurfang he’s identified himself as Alliance in the past.True Horde follow Sylvanas for prosperity. That’s why the Alliance wants to get rid of her.
Well, I think both Teldrassil and the Saurfang cinematic are trying too hard trash that comes from the same reasoning...Anyways.Of course that, people who go to twitter and start harassing developers with threats and whatnot, and as said, blaming just one for the decision of many is definitely a bad attitude. But are we really talking about the bad stuff? Or just about literally any expression of discontent and hate towards what is being done? Saying Ian or other devs are incompetent after explaining why you think so qualifies as "toxic"? Because I have the feeling Metzen went straight to that example as a way to generalize and diminish what's being said.Besides, anyone else thinks it's kinda funny they decide to pull an interview like this, talking about "player toxic behavior" when people are done with developer nonsensical decisions for the game design? Because it really looks like they're trying to make it look like the playerbase is the villain so they can take their arses out of the line.By the way, pretty ironic to call Metzen, the guy responsible for making the lore so terrible with all his Horde and Human bias to talk about this, anxiety or not.
Told you Anduin popped mass rezz...
The whole Burning of Teldrassil is only writen as a way to get people "hyped" for the whole alliance vs horde theme of this expansion there no sensible reason why she suddenly whould do that, who wants to bet later in the expansion they gona write it of to her beeing influenced/effect by (insert evil force here)
Why do writes have such a hard time understanding they are the problem and not the characters?They are the reason the entire horde is okay with genocide, burning world trees, killing their own troops and raising them as undead and abandon everything "Lok'tar ogar" meant.The writes were asked to just follow the painting with the same quality it has been in W3, they don't need to be the best, just follow it if you can't be creative enough about something you're getting paid to do.But nope. Instead they broke the painting and drew some stick figures and forced that horrible drawing down our throats. "This is your story now"And people instead of allowing others to express themselves, they go "CENSOR THOSE WHO DISAGREE, IN FACT, IF YOU DISLIKE THIS, YOU SHOULD GO!"Blind fanboys should try not getting the way of people trying to do something.
A decade+ of constant ruination of the (former) game brought out some toxicity? Who would ever expect something like that?
What a hypocrite.This whole event was a response to dropping subscription numbers and is motivated by the purest cynicism. WoW pays it's bills with "nerd toxicity" and pleases it's shareholders with egging on the Horde while making the Alliance eat the Idiot Ball.Come clean with us Chris: how much of this is actually your fault? You were so instrumental to the progression of WoW you made yourself the central character. You designed it, you oversaw it's construction, you decided who came and who went -you say yourself these choices are made years in advance (except your resignation, obviously)- and after all that it's hilarious to claim that it's "fan toxicity" that derailed your "vision."Who gave the Horde all it's excuses for it's expansionist aggression? Who decided Thrall's project to reshape the Horde into a culture not driven by a hunger for war would fail? Who decided to not just give the Alliance the Idiot Ball but to coat that sucker in super glue first? Who thought Varian coming back would mean not just the return of the king of Stormwind but the installation of the ruler of the entire Alliance? Who decided to make Sylvanas the Karma Houdini Waifu of the most hateful, toxic subrace of the angry, demanding faction would be a good idea? Who thought "there must always be a Lich King" didn't sound spectacularly absurd?Who decided that Sargeras would end being foiled by a fog cloud?You're the George Lucas of the World of Warcraft, Chris Metzen. You built it, you ran it, you cashed the checks it generated, you cheered on the raiders dedicating hundreds of hours of their working and college lives to chewing through Molten Core and Blackwing Lair and Ahn'Quiraj and Naxxramas to win virtual prizes from history's biggest Skinner Box. You tilted the entire gaming industry into the MMO-craze that's finally ending and that wasted millions of hours of productivity chasing your model of a perpetual money machine.It's a little too late to pretend "it's just a game," bro. This is exactly your fault.
Oh and the Last Jedi was a bad movie for reasons unrelated to the actors. They did a servicable job with a terrible script and they are no more to blame than a moderator is for class balance in the latest patch. That nobody should be hate-mobbed for that should be obvious to the point of parody.However being fair also means accepting that disliking a franchise doesn't mean everyone who does so has the same motivations. "They changed it and that ruined it" is a far cry from "they had a bold idea that they executed terribly."I hate a lot of things about BfA but maybe the biggest of the Burning of Teldrassil is the execution. The NElves are so helpless and Malf and Tyrande are so useless and entire first half of the expansion is such a wretched, repulsive prostituting of the story to the worst elements of the Horde that I hate it almost beyond words.And as someone's commented, yes, the NElf hobo-camps of Stormwind are aggravatingly disrespectful.The entire blighted scenario gives the Night Elves no dignity (but there IS a subplot to retrieve and protect Furbolgs because of all the crap going on during the invasion of Darkshore THAT was something someone was worried about!) to a degree that mirrors the way the Horde is stripped of honor. They're just "lay-back-and-think-of-England"-grade victims there for the Horde to "ravage" to get Alliance players angry and invested in a shallow, desperate expansion.To be maximally charitable it's a mediocre idea executed poorly. Kinda like TLJ. No wonder fans are upset.
There is a strong sense of entitlement amongst those fans who “worship” a particular universe within nerd-culture. Their mistake is their apparent belief that, because they purchased the content, they own part of that content; because they have always been a loyal fan, they believe the content should always and only move in the same direction as their daydreams about the content. They are not shareholders, though, or members of the board. They are merely part of an audience of customers and end-users. Their voices are small, and their only chances of being heard are to either be part of a large enough assembly of like-minded people or to make so much shrill noise that others have no choice but to notice them. The etymology of the word “fan” comes from the word “fanatic,” a word often used in the context of extreme religious opinion. And, like religious zealots, fan-atics will become angry, unreasonable, aggressive, and possibly violent whenever there is indication that the universe they worship was not created exclusively for them. Toxic fans are nerd-culture zealots. They unapologetically and shamelessly insult, belittle, and threaten the people who disagree with their personal vision of that precious universe. In that context of pop-culture, the nerds are the bullies.Because modern marketing tools have convinced people to comment on absolutely everything, everyone believes that their opinion is anticipated, empowered, and valid. It has also opened the floodgates to a population of undiagnosed sociopaths, people who will never understand the cowardly, cruel, and unwelcome nature of pseudo-anonymous toxic fandom. These are the same people who consider sensitivity to online toxicity to be merely a trendy collection of catchphrases and buzzwords used as a defense mechanism by the creatively wounded.It’s okay for you to not like something. But, it’s immature to want to poison it for everyone else, and it’s sadistic to spit venom at the people involved.As a collaborative community of helpful suggestions and mind-numbing data, Wowhead is a wonderful example of how positive and powerful a pop-culture community can be within a nerd-universe.
It's pretty sad how many posters here are trying to justify the people who harassed the WoW devs and Christie Golden because they didn't like the pre-patch story.Seriously, learn some introspection.
Good afternoon, everyone, I have an honest question as I'm new to this concept being spoken about here. I mostly see very nice and helpful people in the game, so maybe this "toxicity" that is being referred to is mostly outside the game? I had asked in general or trade if a hunter could help me understand something (a talent) in the game and not only did someone offer their help, they took me to the stable that I couldn't find. I often compliment people on their transmog because I can tell they like it and worked hard on it, and I enjoy seeing people happy in the game with their transmogs. Also, is there a difference between having an opinion about something or if you are concerned about something legitimately, vs toxicity? An example I can offer you that is directly related to me is, I for one don't really like memes that much - I find them kind of annoying and not really funny or unfunny either way, and I am concerned that they may be included in the game if enough people like them - because blizzard might see the meme as a universally liked concept, and add it in. If I were to stick up for myself and say I feel concerned that memes will be inside the game soon, because blizzard is also addressing/acknowledging the meme hype, and I'm getting worried about it, is that negative or toxic or my opinion? I would never say someone is wrong for liking something or try to sway them one way or the other. Guess I don't understand the concept, because I don't feel it in my heart and don't really see it anywhere. I'm also not on social media, websites (other than wowhead) and stuff like that so maybe I'm just protected from it. But I definitely dont' see it in game and I'm on every single day for at least 1 hour. Thanks and peace, al