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评论来自
Kokorazashi
Fortune Cards are only made by Scribes (Inscription) and will create a piece of vendor trash that can be sold for a price. The value of the trash created is random and there are 58 possible outcomes. The values of these trash items can range anywhere from 10 silver to 5000 gold. Yes, five, thousand, gold. The chance, however, of you getting the 5 grand card is a 1/58 chance
assuming
they all have an equal chance of dropping (Unlikely IMO). All of the card also have their own flavour text and there are many variants of the same value cards.
- Includes list for other outcomes.
评论来自
demo6
List of possible cards on Wowhead:
http://cata.cuckhead.com/items=7.11?filter=na=Fortune+Card#0-2+1
评论来自
Furydeath
I wonder what the cooldown is for it.
评论来自
467494
Someone explain to me how scribbling on a piece of parchment can earn you 5000 gold.
评论来自
RottweilerCP
I doubt the chances of getting each card is the same. If it were, and a single milling gives you an average of 2 pigments, which is lower than current mills, then one mill, plus 50s for the parchment is worth 109.67g. That would make a stack of herbs worth 436.68g. I know there will be some inflation come Cata, a lot especially early on, but I doubt herbs will go over half that price and will probably level out under 100g/stack.
I might have to log onto the PTR just to check this out and if the percentages look even when Cata is released I'll be mass producing these until they hot fix it. The house would not win on this one.
Quick Math:
Total Vendor price of cards: 5000+1000+200+2*50+20+5*5+5*1+16*.5+26*.1 = 6360.6
6360.6 / 58 = 109.67
评论来自
Dahork
Video of me using 60 of those:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flfh6HnLfOQ
seems like it will be hard to get the 5k one ...
评论来自
Beefcube
I have made about 50 of them so far and nothing worth more then 10g......
评论来自
458379
I would wager the actual value of these cards to be something like 5-10 gold. I am interested in someone testing a large enough sample size to provide meaningful statistics.
Presently, it is
stupid
to right click these. The ink is worth far more than the expected value in gold. What this item does is set an effective price floor on the cost of cataclysm herbs; but it is a price floor that will likely never be relevant. But for the sake of argument, consider what happens if it did become relevant, and the expected value of the card was greater than the cost of making them: the market would very quickly (almost immediately because herbs can literally be transmuted into gold) adjust to accommodate, the price of the herbs would rise, and it would again be
at best
a net gain of nothing.
If you want to make the argument "well it's about fun and gambling is fun", I'd respond that your risk-thrill threshold is too low. 5000g wouldn't fundamentally change your wow experience like winning the real lottery would, so even the "concept" of winning is meager.
I'm not saying that inscriptionists won't be able to profit from these, because no doubt they will. People are stupid and the lottery works pretty well in real life, so why not wow. But that fact indicates a flaw in human intuition.
评论来自
Brulath
If you're a scribe, you would be best served by selling these instead of using them yourself; it's a far more lucrative proposition. With regards to the task of selling them, you might find the following macro helpful for advertising their availability:
/script n, fcook= GetItemInfo('item:60838:0:0:0:0:0:0:0'); na, fcard= GetItemInfo('item:60844:0:0:0:0:0:0:0'); SendChatMessage("WTS: "..fcook.." 25g, chance at getting 5000g vendor "..fcard.." or 1000g, 200g, etc. versions.","channel",nil,2);
The macro above (all on one line - no line breaks) will place the following text into trade chat (assuming it's channel 2 - if not, change the last number in the macro to the correct channel), with proper item links for both the card you flip and the most valuable of the two epic vendor cards:
WTS:
25g, chance at getting 5000g vendor
or 1000g, 200g, etc. versions.
I'm not sure it's the most efficient macro ever written, but it works well and, mainly due to the epic item linked within it, will get you a lot of eager customers.
评论来自
remotettl
wonder what is chance getting 4 of them out of 4 cards?
or ... lucky. i`ve paid 140g and get 20k... kinda nice.
评论来自
741714
...and what kind of fortune could it be? (Inside the card..)
评论来自
706468
ladies and gentlemen, WoW now has the in-game equivalent to convenience store scratch tickets.
评论来自
Kaelaholme
Blizzard has stealth nerfed linking the 5000g card, but there is a workaround.
Use the macro:
/script n, fcook= GetItemInfo('item:60838:0:0:0:0:0:0:0'); na, fcard= GetItemInfo('item:60840:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0'); SendChatMessage("WTS: "..fcook.." Chance at getting 1000g vendor "..fcard..", 200g, or even 5000g the version. On AH.","channel",nil,1);
It links the 1000g card instead, and the macro posts:
"Chance at getting 1000g vendor , 200g, or even 5000g the version. On AH." on the first chat channel.
评论来自
135399
Just turned over 440 of these cards (Yes, over 67 stacks or 20,000g's of Twilight Jasmine were sacrificed for this test)
I sadly report that I didn't achive anything over the 20g Green card, and even then, I only obtained 5 of them.
However, I sold some guy 10 cards for 200g, and he obtained the 1,000g card.
With that being said, the rate of getting the epic cards are totally RANDOM. I didn't have a better chance of getting it because I flipped 44x the amount of cards the other guy did, sadly enough.
Moral of the story, Sell these cards to peope like crack, because they will go for them. DON"T flip them yourself, or you'd be turning 20k of mats into less than 200g like I did....
评论来自
dabump86
Here is some interesting math.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the drop rate of the 5000g card is one in a thousand (consistent with drops of rare pets and mounts).
In order to have an 80% chance of getting the 5000g card you would need to make 1500 cards. 1500 cards is equal to 450 stacks of Twilight Jasmine or Whiptail. Thus, in order to have an 80% chance of breaking even a stack of Twilight Jasmine or Whiptail would need to sell for 11g or each individual card for about 4g.
On my sever, even near the end of the expansion, lichbloom never sold for that low. And that doesn't take into account the gold inflation from a new expansion.
Of course, this isn't a true test because there is also the lesser card that sells for 1000g.
But I think it's fair to say that the expected value of one of these cards will always be negative to the scribe and that this is most definitely a gold sink for the game.
The inks themselves sell for about 30g per on my server. I sell the cards for 40-50g per. 10-20g profit. If i buy the herbs themselves off the AH I refuse to pay more than 125g per stack of herbs. That way I still make a profit. So not necessarily a gold sink imo.
评论来自
759725
where do i learn to make this card at what trainer teaches or is it a recipe
评论来自
heero854
I just got the 5000, I'd take a screen shot but I am on a mac, not at my house, so I don't know how. (I'll edit one in)
So the 5k one does exist.
I open/used 200 of them
Got
1 5k
2 50g
Rest were ones that sell for 1g or less so it DOES exist and it is possible
I spent about 4k on the mats (Got about 820 cinderbloom to mill to get the mats).
So I still made a profit.
评论来自
Arisechicken2506
I'm wondering if the amount that the card is going to be worth is generated when you right click them or when you create the card..
评论来自
822855
Yes, over 67 stacks or 20,000g's of Twilight Jasmine were sacrificed for this test
1500 cards is equal to 450 stacks of Twilight Jasmine or Whiptail.
If you are only interested in making the
Mysterious Fortune Card
for a profit on the AH. All you need is
Blackfallow Ink
. You can get the pigment to make the ink from any of the Cata herbs.
So, if you milled
Cinderbloom
for the
Ashen Pigment
the cost of buying the herbs needed off the AH drops dramatically. You can cut the cost even further if you are willing to gather the
Cinderbloom
yourself. Gathering your own herbs means that all you have to pay for is the
Resilient Parchment
, which will vary in price depending on rep,
Best Deals Anywhere
Goblin racial, and
Bartering
guild perk.
Another benefit to gathering your own herbs. You can sell the cards on the AH for 2-3g per, and have a very decent profit margin. The price you set though really comes down to: 1) How valuable you think your time is. 2) The current market value of the cards.
The only reason to buy/gather
Twilight Jasmine
or
Whiptail
is for the higher chance at milling
Burning Embers
for
Inferno Ink
.
评论来自
Hanz0
I`ll start with : was BORED.
saw a guy sellin 2k of these for 14k told him i buy them for 10k he instantly said deal. I thought meh i tricked him !
25minutes later of opening + vendoring i got the following results:
10s : 1382
50s : 318
1g : 126
5g : 76
20g : 60
50g : 26
200g : 12
1k : 0
5k : 0
I strongly suggest you stay away from these. These items provide NO INCOME for those that use them and LARGE INCOME for scribes that craft them and sell them.
This very reason is what makes me believe that the people above me that are saying they got 5k cards with ease are just scribes advertising their merchandise.
DO NOT BUY THESE, YOU
WILL
REGRET IT.
评论来自
851160
Honestly from a Scribe who has made thousands of gold selling these at a 180-200% profit margin, I can't tell people whether or not to buy them. I myself flipped a few now and then to what's probably been a total of 100 or so, and gotten 50g at my highest. I once sold someone 160, they got 20g at their best.
I once sold someone 4, and they won 1000g.
I once sold someone 10, and they won 5000g.
I know that the odds are pathetic, but knowing that it IS possible to win the 5000g doesn't make me feel like such a bad person. Although I do have morals. If someone is a level 38 and says they want to buy 3 because that's all of the gold they have, I tell the poor guy to keep his money. No need for him to waste it.
评论来自
pablodee
Hehehe ... just got this inscription skill ... made 11 cards .... 2nd card ...5k gold ! WOOT
评论来自
839663
You know what would be highly amusing with these things?
If the chances are modified based on if you're the crafter or not.
评论来自
nitrolite
A video in wich i open 190 card and manage to get one epic card, and a couple of green ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0T3QBxaDE
评论来自
851879
1. These sell 9g each or 850 in stacks of 100 on my server. (Mok'Nathal)
2. I did my research and found that you will profit the most buying them in lots of 200.
I opened a stack of 120, got nothing but a few 50g's. I then bought a stack of 200 and found 2 1000g cards, a couple other people did the same thing as me and MOST profited.
Buy
In
Stacks
of
200
If
You
Want
to
Profit!
评论来自
kelevraman
i just created and used 610 of them and received roughly 900g overall.
Either these are bull%^&* or i am incredibly unlucky.
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