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评论来自
mordre
Much like the other Primal transmutes, this recipe would be discovered by random chance while you were performing another transmutation.
评论来自
Chillincold
Guide to discovering potions/flasks/elixirs/transmutes.
For the casual gamer:
- Make sure your transmutation is always on cooldown. (You would probably log in at the same time everyday for a few hours, so keep a few reagents in your bag and do a transmute everytime its up.)
- Make potions and elixirs that you use although buying them from the auction house maybe cheaper than buying the reagents. ( You would probably have a cash flow set back so my advice is to have your second profession as herbalism to have a continuous supply of your own reagents.)
- Make yourself known to your guildmates and in game friends that you are an alchemist so that when party/raid members run low on potions/elixirs you can make some on the spot and charge them for it. (Try to keep stock of vials and herbs for potions/elixirs that move fast e.g netherbloom, terocone, mountain silversage, felweed, dreaming glory, etc...)
- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a potion master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a casual gamer trying to be a mobile alchemy auction house, potions are the most likely item people run out of that are essential to a raid/heroic.)
For the power gamer:
- Your transmutation timer has no excuse to be up. (If you're absent minded or loose track of time, set an alarm.)
- Make potions and elixirs that suffice your usage. Craft the item of your chosen mastery. Spread your crafts on a few items so you don't flood the auction house with one item. You should be able to be the most competetive seller since your procs yield you extra items. ( After a week or two you will be familiar with the items that sell and those that dont. Make more of the ones that do sell.)
- Make macros to advertise yourself as an alchemist on general chat when you cross teritories and trade chat when ur at a major city. (I find that listing some of your best potions/elixirs/flasks helps because not everyone is an alchemist and not everyone knows the available items in alchemy.)
- My personal recomendations to such a gamer is to be a elixir master. (Please don't flame me with your never ending argument on which mastery is better. I just think that a power gamer can spread his liabilities as there are a lot more elixirs compared to potions and such a gamer would be able to gather materials to create flasks {falls under elixir mastery}.)
Tips
- Always have reagents in your bag. If you run low on bag space priorotise for reagents on tansmutations.
- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know prices or download a mod that helps do it for you. I have mods but I still rely on my memory for all alchemy stuff because for alchemy its not an average of price over time. Its the price on that day, that week or that month. If your server is in end game you will be looking at completely different prices of all alchemy items compared to a server that has newly begun.
- Make frequent trips to the auction house to know your competitiors. If you can't beat their prices make a pact with them (e.g. you make certain items they make certain items, or if you're different masteries you should recomend your fellow customers to each other.)
- {More for power gamers} Be up to date on how far and how fast your server is progressing. This way you can be the first to be there with the items. (e.g. I sold more than 250 stacks of greater arcane protection potions alothough i knew how to make major arcane protection potions. At this point in time we're 3-4 months into the expansion and most players are still trying to save up cash or simply can't afford the major potions. On my server now, most guilds dont need them for the curator fight in karazhan but before they were experienced in taking him down they we're willing to pay my outrageous prices to have an edge on the encounters.)
评论来自
Chillincold
Dirty tricks:
Knowing the backdoors in every game and business encounter definately helps. Since this is the low down section of my thread, and undenyably unscrupulous. I will only let you in on one of the not so sinster of my plots. (For my own conscience sake I don't want to corrupt the world.)
- {For herbalists} If you know of an item that sells well but its reagents are never on the auction house, create an alternate character and park him at an auction house. Advertise items that require this reagent and sell it for double or triple the price on your alternate character so that the buyer doesn't know that its you. (e.g. Not many people know about greater arcane elixir, and its a great elixir for casters altough its a lower level elixir compared to post TBC items. I sell reagents such as dreamfoil and mountain silversage at triple the normal price on my alternate character. My customers usually ask me if they are usually that expensive, I either tell them "Yeah thats the normal price nowadays." or "Thats cheap!!")
From past experience I have to state this for my peace of mind. Please dont send me a mail or ask me for more details on the "Dirty tricks" section. Thank you for reading my post, and if you slept half way... DUDE/DUDET you missed out, what were you thinking trying to sleep in one of my lectures!
评论来自
52665
discovered 24th June 07 while transmuting Primal Might. Transmute specced, though I believe you can discover Transmute recipes if you are Elixir or Potion specced.
评论来自
57346
If you are fortunate enough to be able to solo them, the elite Talonsworn Forest-Ragers (in Terrokar, around Skettis) are a great way to farm motes of life. I have gotten 5 in one kill before, by herb-gathering them after death. They also tend to give at least two types of herbs per gather. =)
评论来自
Samboda
Possible primal transmutes are :
Air ==> Fire ==> Earth ==> Water ==> Air
Fire <=> Mana
Earth <=> Life
Water <=> Shadow
评论来自
35262
I laugh at you all. Everyone goes on and on about this Mob an that Mob to get the best Drop rates. HA! As an Engineer I beat all your drop rates and expend little to no health in getting 3-5 Motes a drop. I suggest that if you have Engineers in your Guilds who are 305+ and willing to help you farm, by all means take them with you to increase your Drop Rates greatly. In the time it took me to ride across Zanger I had collected 2 Primal Lifes and 3 Motes of Water. The Water was collected from Mobs who I accidently Aggro'd. Engineers/Miners can collect all manner of Motes from Ore Veins and from the air itself. So take an Engineer with you on your farming runs, they help you and you help them.
评论来自
Toldry
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TRANSMUTES
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Mana
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Fire
<
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Air
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Life
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Earth
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Water
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评论来自
Ludwick
Requirements to make a discovery
You must be crafting a potion, elixir, flask or performing a transmutation that was added in TBC.
As a rule of thumb that's anything that is learnt from a master alchemy trainer, dropped from a mob in outland or purchased from a vendor in outland. The only real exceptions are the pre-TBC flasks that have been made available from faction vendors in outland.
NOT requirements to make a discovery
You don't need to be in outland
You don't need a mastery
You don't need to be 375 alchemy
You don't need to be level 70
You don't need to craft yellow or orange recipes to make discoveries. Even grey recipes can proc discoveries
You don't need to be crafting a related recipe *except* in the case of cauldrons (You can discover flasks when making potions for example)
List of recipes learned by discovery (accurate as of 29/01/2008)
Flasks
Flask of Blinding Light
Flask of Fortification
Flask of Mighty Restoration
Flask of Pure Death
Flask of Relentless Assault
Potions
Super Rejuvenation Potion
Transmutes
Earth to Life
Life to Earth
Shadow to Water
Water to Shadow
Fire to Mana
Mana to Fire
Cauldrons
- To discover these you need to be crafting the related major protection potion. Cauldron of Major Holy Protection is believed to be non-existent. The discovery of these recipes is much more likely.
Cauldron of Major Arcane Protection
Cauldron of Major Fire Protection
Cauldron of Major Frost Protection
Cauldron of Major Nature Protection
Cauldron of Major Shadow Protection
评论来自
129964
I discovered this one on a Primal Might transmute.
On my first Primal Earth to Life transmute, I discovered its contrary: Transmute Life to Earth, which is of course a lot less interesting. I do wonder however, if it's something automatic or just a coincidence.
This transmute is a nice and steady souce of income, and a good addition to the daily quests. I buy the Primal Earth at the AH by stacks of 20 for around 50g (that's 2g50 each) and then transmute and sell one for around 18g every day. There's usually no need to undercut other people's prices because these get sold very easily, I usually put mine at 1 or 2g over the cheapest price, and I've never had an auction expired.
That's about a 15g daily income, or a total benefit of 300g from one stack of Primal Earth.
评论来自
132212
Best transmute for gold I've encountered is the Earth -> Water -> Air or simply Water->Air.
Currently, the Air is in much more demand than either the Earth or the Water. Being transmute specc is great because I can sell the additional xmutes when I move from Earth -> Water -> Air.
Water is relatively easy to farm considering it's both fishable and a drop.
Having an alt that's a miner also increases my Primal Earth supply almost exponentially.
评论来自
88264
May as well be called "Push a button, make 20 gold"
评论来自
481488
Still possible to discover this even at 80, but yes it does require you to perform a transmute of equivalent level. I've been hoping for it by doing Earth -> Water and got this yesterday
评论来自
Bubonic
For those who are trying to discover these transmutes, it is still possible, although I think that it may happen only with primal transmutes now (not including Transmute Primal Might). I spent about five months doing daily gem transmutes (Cardinal Ruby, etc.) along with as many primal mights as I could (2-5 per day) and didn't make a single discovery. Even though I had read that these discoveries were possible with just about any transmute, I switched solely to the primal transmutes (with the cooldown). Since then I've discovered two primal transmutes (Primal Water to Shadow and Primal Earth to Life) in about three weeks. I'd like to know if anyone else has made a primal discovery lately with any other kind of transmute; if not, it seems like primal transmutes are your best bet for discoveries right now.
Update: Discovered the last two primal transmutes I didn't have in the next week.
评论来自
danilche
Does this transmute still have the transmutation CD? The description indicates no, but I heard otherwise in-game, trying to verify.
评论来自
Fist
..............PRIMAL TRANSMUTES AND THEIR SOURCES.................
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FtoM
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MtoF
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Almaador
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.....Mana<------------------>Fire <---------------------Air.................................
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A: Narasu
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H: Nasela
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Magnus Frostwake
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.....Life <------------------> Earth -------------------> Water <----------> Shadow
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EtoL
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LtoE
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Mycah
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StoW
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WtoS
DISCOVERY-driven recipies:
Fire to Mana
Mana to Fire
Earth to Life
Life to Earth
Shadow to Water
Water to Shadow
REPUTATION requirements:
Primal Air to Fire (REVERED)
A: Primal Fire to Earth (REVERED)
H: Primal Fire to Earth (REVERED)
评论来自
herumor
I can confirm that these primal transmute discoveries can proc when crafting
Alchemist Stone
s. Happened to me today.
评论来自
Gwez
This is an update of the nice
diagram
by
Toldry
in TBC, be sure to upvote it.
Outlands Transmutes
源生法力
🢄
┆
🢆
┆
源生火焰
🢀🢜🢜🢜
源生空气
┆
¦
🡻
🡖
🡗
🢁
¦
┗ ╌ ╌ ╌ ╌ ╌ ╌ ╌ ╌
╌ ╌ ╌
╌ ╌ ╌
🡒
源生之能
🡕
🡔
🢅
源生之土
🢜🢜🢜🢂
源生之水
🢄
🢇
🢆
源生生命
源生暗影
链接
WeakAuras 导出
转化:源生之土至源生生命
转化:源生之土至源生生命
3秒 施法时间
1天 冷却
工具:
点金石
施法材料:
源生之土
将源生之土转化为源生生命。
专业技能:
外域炼金
发现:
外域炼金转化
源生生命
物品等级:15
制作材料
最大叠加: 1000
售价:
40
魔法增益
施法材料
源生之土
(
1
)
制造源生之土
(
1
)
土之微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生火焰至源生之土
(
1
)
源生火焰
(
1
)
制造源生火焰
(
1
)
火焰微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生空气至源生火焰
(
1
)
源生空气
(
1
)
制造源生空气
(
1
)
空气微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生之水至源生空气
(
1
)
源生之水
(
1
)
制造源生之水
(
1
)
水之微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生暗影至源生之水
(
1
)
源生暗影
(
1
)
制造源生暗影
(
1
)
暗影微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生法力至源生火焰
(
1
)
源生法力
(
1
)
制造源生法力
(
1
)
法力微粒
(
10
)
转化:源生生命至源生之土
(
1
)
源生生命
(
1
)
制造源生生命
(
1
)
生命微粒
(
10
)
全部展开
全部展开
法术细节
持续时间
n/a
类型
物理
机制
发现
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
n/a
成本
无
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
3秒
冷却
1天
GCD
0秒
效果
Create Item
源生生命
标记
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坐下时可用
不受无敌影响
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