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评论来自
bollwerk
There are no gas clouds anymore for Engineers, instead there is a new device called
Electrostatic Condenser
and here is the description:
"Allows a skilled engineer to occasionally collect Volatile Air while mining, skinning, or collecting herbs."
So either Engineers need to also be miners, herbalists or skinners ... or you need to kill mobs that drop this.
评论来自
281288
WIth the
Electrostatic Condenser
in tow, I spent about 3-4 hours mining Elementium and Pyrite. I got 51 airs and enough ore to make around 350 bars. Definitely have to schedule an evening off to farm these things.
At the moment though, Obsidium is even harder to find.
评论来自
Arkke
After an hour of farming the
Scions of Al'Akir
in Uldum, I wound up with 43 of these Volatiles, 3 of which came from a
Tiny Treasure Chest
I got along the way. I thought that was a low number, but, judging by some of the other comments here, I guess I didn't do too bad.
As it stands, those Scions and a different mob in Twilight Highlands appear to be potentially the only non-instances mobs that can drop these items, though that may change as more data is uploaded. Either way, good luck farming; you may be at it for awhile.
评论来自
422931
As of last night I was able to get 32 of these from farming around 400 Elementium Ore and 140 Pyrite Ore with the
Electrostatic Condenser
. I also got 32 Volatile Water, 18 Earth and 16 Fire. It appears to have about the same drop rate as the Volatile Water.
评论来自
Jazzism
The description does say skilled engineers, I'm thinking higher you have your Engineering skill or maxxed out you'll get a higher drop rates of the airs.
I'm not able to test the theory for a while, anyone able to test it?
** UPDATE Edit **
I maxxed my eng and mining and after mining a ton of Elementium I'm seeing a 10% drop for airs. This morning I picked up 544 ores and got 19 airs so almost 13% today.
Do others see similar results?
----------------------------------------
Why did this get down rated?
评论来自
Zulfarion
The mobs in heroic Vortex Pinnacle seem to drop these pretty well, I got 23 in one run.
评论来自
691812
Engineers take note: electrified ether can be mined/salvaged by engineers off the diamond-blade shredders in twilight shores. Since killing the shredders is a quest, an engineer can go around and mine other players kills, or farm their own. I got 2 electrified ether, 3 handful of obsidium bolts, and misc junk that sells for 1.8 gold a pop, in about 5 minutes :) Much easier than farming volatile air!
Note: the shredders are level 84 and you can aggro them while salvaging, so you should be of a level to deal with a L84
edit: after another 10 minutes with no drops of ether I decided to do a timed test to determine drop rate. Here are the results:
15 minutes of farming - 16 kills and another 3 or so I found lying around and salvaged
drops: 16 three pronged blivet (100% drop from the shredders -1g 28s sell price)
salvaged: 17 dancing spinner (2g 55s sell price)
8 multistable perceiver (4g sell price)
2 electrified ether :)
6 handful of obsidium bolts
Edit 2: looks like this was nerfed. I salvaged over 50 shredders today and got nothing more than junk and a couple handfuls of obsidium bolts. Came back later and salvaged another 10 I found laying around and still nothing but junk. :*(
评论来自
bowenbdf
Awful awful collection rate compared to every other element, needs to be addressed I think especially when Items need them as does the truegold transmute.
评论来自
235201
As an Engineer/Enchanter this change really sucks, I use to mine on an alts or my wife's character, and get gas clouds on my main, while it wasn't super ideal for time's sake it allowed me to effectively due both, now after two expansions with gas clouds they introduce this crap? Why not make it reward the ether from killing mobs, or generate additionals from gas clouds? This seems dualy-biased if you don't have a gathering prof.
评论来自
JohnPombrio
k, here is some serious stats for engineering/mining and volatile air. 540 obsidian ore (I know a place!) in a couple of hours. 26 volatile air and 24 volatile earth, 11 gems of one sort or another. The math is 5% chance of air, 5% chance of earth, and 2% chance of gem. No wonder the air is going for 65-100 gold each and damn few of them in AH.
评论来自
734288
It seems after 12/14/2010 the drop rate on these has decreased substantially. After nearly 200 skinnings I have yet to receive one today. Before hand I had gotten enough in 1 night to combine for 6 ether on roughly 50 skinnings. Anyone have any idea as to why?
评论来自
248983
Did they ninja nerf the droprate of these off Enslaved Tempests? Last night I got 20 of em in about half an hour, now tonight I've killed about 50 of em and haven't gotten a single one.
评论来自
369277
droprate must have been nerfed,just spent around 25 min on these and only 1 air dropped,seriously blizz..fix this plz
评论来自
739760
This early in the expansion I did my research and looked around multiple different areas to find the best place to farm almost all of the new Volatile materials used in tradeskills. I've managed to find the best areas to farm every single one expect for Life, which im still in the process of finding the best area for. (The one in Hyjal was nerfed recently). Anyway, below you will find links to each locations youtube video.
Volatile Fire Vid -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDGMKS-DDIE
Volatile Water Vid -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ToiIIZ_a6E
Volatile Earth Vid -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7uLOtecDSQ
Volatile Air Vid -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWuNUU7HEc
Humbolts Conflagaration Volatile Fire Farming Video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKvxkQvo6c
Volatile Air Farming in Uldum Video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lASXxQ3Ckxo
评论来自
739084
I dunno about the nerf tbh.
Just farmed 8 Volatile Air from the Storm Vortex in Twilight Highlands in under 20 minutes.
That to me is a pretty decent droprate.
评论来自
77621
With the stealth nerf to the droprate Blizz should really allow the Electrostatic Condenser to be crafted by engineers but used by anyone. It basically forces you to pick up a gathering prof to make it at all useful which isn't an option for raiders optimizing stats.
评论来自
Deathbang
The gathering rate for these is horrid. My advice is to farm minerals, hoping to get some volatile air, but with the real purpose of getting the money to buy these off the AH. Honestly, it's a more efficient plan!
Edit: An even better plan I've found, is that while looking for elementium I find pyrium. Since I don't yet have a use for it, I just tell trade I'll trade pyrium bars for volatile air. I almost always get a trade in under a minute, as people are eager to take advantage of the small amount of gold they gain from the trade. I'm just happy to get my volatile airs asap. It's a win win :)
评论来自
Layuth
Christmas Morning 12/25/2010
130 kills of Scion of Al'Akir in Uldum resulted in 14 Volatile Air.
roughly 9.25% drop rate
评论来自
421626
Drop rate seems to have nerfed yet again.
Was collecting 30/PH in Uldum on the 23/24th and on the 25th I was getting about 23-25 in an Hour.
评论来自
744084
They have nerfed the drop rate again it seems, 150 mobs killed only 6 Volatile Air dropped.
评论来自
660414
For Non-engineers I recommend farming these off the Scions in Uldum. at 53k health they are fast to burn down. they are in a quest hub so you'll have competition, however they have a high spawn rate. i had two spawn on me while I was writing this post
评论来自
750395
that just makes you an outlier. from the data here, the general droprate for it is low. you just happened to get lucky
评论来自
Banishy
Here is the best way to get your Volatile Air, Water, and Earth. You do Transmute Life to Air/Water/Earth.
its 475 alch I have 2 of them u can farm 100 herbs get like 30-50 life in a hr.
Transmute both = your 1 day cloth for Tailoring or what ever you are doing. Note 30 Volatile + 8 bolts Per Tailoring Dreamcloth
Transmute give 14-16 Volatile of your choice.
Note: Transmute spec has a cool down of midnight the next day
Ex. 8pm = 4 hr cool down left. 1pm= 11hr cool down
1 thing to tell u on the Cool down is that its on the same cool down as True gold transmute.
Note: Water = Vashj
Air = Uldum
Earth = Deepholm
Fire = Mt Hyjal (Note its better to fish in Twilight highlands u can get like 10 -18 in 10 mins. The timer of each pool is around 10 min cool down.( I trade these for water/life in trade)
Transmute spec Alch: If you are a transmute spec.
Still go to the zone u want, but you maybe get 15 of another element. Like I wanted water, I went to Vashj and my proc did water +earth + fire It doesn't do 15x2 of that Volatile. Instead its 15x1 + 15x1 of another element.
You can sell the herbs, or use the herbs for Inscription/Alch to level it w/o trying to level it up.
I use the herbs to level Jewel Crafting, and using Alch transmute (no cool down on gems) (starting at level 500) 3 Herbs + 3 of each Green color gem = a blue color gem. Cut the gem = your gear or money. (Great way to level JC and Alch w/o trying)
Mining isn't very good for getting Volatile. 100-150 ore = 5-8 earth or fire/and or water isnt very good compare to the transmute for where it is 1 day and not much work since herbing has a drop rate of 1:3 herbs drop a Volatile life compare to mining has 1:8 to 1:13 drop rate
3 toons i have are
Alch Tailor (my main)
JC Mining
Insription Herb
With 3 toons you can get all your Volatile elements to make gear you want for you char.
Replace Tailor for Blacksmith also works (or insript and tailor for LW skin.)
评论来自
741328
If you're trying to decide Uldum vs. Twilight Highlands for farming - the spawn rate of the Scion of Al'Akir is far better than the Storm Vortex, they're easier to kill, plus you don't have to deal with their pesky human handlers. And since both areas are quest areas where there is competition, spawn rate is an issue. I found in Twilight Highlands I either was flying around with nothing to kill or was suddenly swarmed, whereas in Uldum I pretty much always had something to kill and never felt overwhelmed. Both have horrendous drop rates, however. After about 20 mins. farming Storm Vortexes I got 2 volatile airs; I got 4 after about 35 mins. farming Scions.
评论来自
714767
Thought I'd mention, the transmute made by Alchemists: Transmute: Living Elements
(15 Volatile Life transformed into 14-16 other random Volatiles) is a great way to get multiple Airs.
- DOES share a cooldown with the Truegold xmute which can net your Alchmist 200g+...so do the math according to your server. Might be worth it.
- Perform xmute in Uldum zone to sway "random results" of the xmute. It's been 3 days of using my alts CD in Uldum and have gotten 14-16 Volatile Air each time.
评论来自
Banishy
Here is the best way to get your Volatile Air, Water, and Earth. You do Transmute Life to Air/Water/Earth.
its 475 alch. You can farm 100 herbs and get like 30-50 life in a hr.
Transmute give 14-16 Volatile of your choice.
Note: Transmute spec has a cool down of midnight the next day
Ex. 8pm = 4 hr cool down left. 1pm= 11hr cool down
1 thing to tell u on the Cool down is that its on the same cool down as True gold transmute.
Note: Water = Vashj
Air = Uldum
Earth = Deepholm
Fire = Mt Hyjal (Note its better to fish in Twilight highlands u can get like 10 -18 in 10 mins. The timer of each pool is around 10 min cool down.( I trade these for water/life in trade)
Transmute spec Alch: If you are a transmute spec.
Still go to the zone u want, but you maybe get 15 of another element. Like I wanted water, I went to Vashj and my proc did water +earth + fire It doesn't do 15x2 of that Volatile. Instead its 15x1 + 15x1 of another element.
You can sell the herbs, or use the herbs for Inscription/Alch to level it w/o trying to level it up.
I use the herbs to level Jewel Crafting, and using Alch transmute (no cool down on gems) (starting at level 500) 3 Herbs + 3 of each Green color gem = a blue color gem. Cut the gem = your gear or money. (Great way to level JC and Alch w/o trying)
Mining isn't very good for getting Volatile. 100-150 ore = 5-8 earth or fire/and or water isnt very good compare to the transmute for where it is 1 day and not much work since herbing has a drop rate of 1:3 herbs drop a Volatile life compare to mining has 1:8 to 1:13 drop rate
评论来自
HaddonEast
Didnt work for me, killed 50 and only got 3 bolts, I would say its better to Mine becouse although drop rate is as bad, at least you get the ore in compensation, pls pls Blizz give us back our gas Cloud collector....
评论来自
174898
I've just spent 1 hour farming the Scion of Al'Akir mobs in Uldum. I killed 179 mobs and got 29 Volatile air = 16.2%. I'd say thats pretty decent. The dropped in 1-2 and the respawn rate is fast so when you've finished one round, the first spawn is back.
评论来自
243011
Just for the kicks i started out with engineering and blacksmithing on my main, a warrior tank, around middle of the first expansion.
The changes in WotLK was ok, most professions were resonably balanced but mining was definitely a tank profession with the stamina boost. But my combo still worked.
The gas clouds have been good to engineers all the way, one of the few ways an engineer could level his/her profession affordably or even make some money.
Removing the gas clouds and then demand a gathering profession for an engineering perk is beyound insanely stupid.
PS! I noticed that I can track the red gas clouds in Deepholme, but that is one use for a single quest so not very useful.
评论来自
766576
For all geared 85 hunters with skills like mine (and possibly other classes):
I have found that the best place to farm volatile airs is in reg Vortex Pinnacle. If you have enough skills to use the right pet, CC the right adds, and kite when needed, you can farm the first several mob groups in VP for airs. Although you can only reset the instance 5 times a day, it should be said that this method is much better than farming mobs in Uldum. For the time you invest in farming VP, you save a LOT of time.
Couple tips to keep in mind: CC what you can, kiting is your friend, and don't be afraid to jump off the ledge to avoid a death. Also, I've noticed sometimes that mobs keep aggro on you when you fall off the ledge and start at the beginning. If thats the case, just run out and back in. Or better yet, use that to your advantage: Use the time that they're getting to you to bandage up, revive pet, prepare traps on their path, etc.
This is, of course, if you don't want to buy or find an alchemist for your airs. Hope this helps some and GL!
评论来自
624455
If this applied to fishing and archaeology, which it absolutely should, I'd have nothing against what blizz was going for. Then again, isn't blizz trying to promote guild involvement? not helping, blizz, not helping.
评论来自
cleric670
I think there was a nerf on the drop rate of these things, right after patch till about two weeks ago i was getting these on every 3-4 nodes mined, now i'm lucky to get 1 out of 20 nodes mined
评论来自
Akara
Transmute give 14-16 Volatile of your choice.
Not True. The outcome is random.
转化:生命元素
评论来自
773989
26 jan 2011
1 hour of farming
135 mobs
33 volatile air
Scions @ Uldum
Almost no competitors
评论来自
Qeter
I gave up. it is just way to slow and i dont know if it is just me? but everbody in the group can loot the airs in vortex (not sure about that).
but the best way is to ask a alchemist to create
转化:生命元素
for you.
动燃生命
are really easy to get and muth cheaper then buying
动燃空气
them self.
and remember if your gonna do that he/she/you have to create it in uldum, or it will randomly create one of the 4 volatiles
评论来自
757495
Does anyone know if the drop rates for volatile air on the scions have changed? I've killed like 20 mobs and haven't seen any volatile air, where earlier sunday I would have gotten at least a couple by now!
评论来自
248305
I made 60 in roughly 1 hour 45 mins of farming Scion of Al'Akir.
With a droprate of 12% to get 1-2, assuming the chance is equal to get either, that's 18% dropschance. So on average you should get 18 Volatile Airs from killing 100 Scions of Al'Akir. As a kill seem to trigger a spawn when most of them are dead, there's always some to kill, they are a bit spread over the area though, but it's not too hard to kill at least 2-3 per minute.
So on average you should at least make 120-180 kills / Hour = 22-32 Volatile of Air / Hour
评论来自
reesew202
I dont know if its just me being unlucky but it definitely feels like the drop rate of the scions in uldum has decreased. can anyone else confirm or dispute? im off to try out the twilight highlands.
评论来自
Joelmorgan1977
Ok Fresh run I farmed 125 scions for a total of 10 volatiles so as of 06/02/2011 the drop rate is around 7-9 % assuming a variance of a 1% for luck
评论来自
781061
Just did a 1 hour 5 min farm in Scion of Al'akir s..
I have killed like 170-180 mob and what I got is:
4 82 lvl Green Gear (for disenchanting ofc)
28 Volatile Air
that seems a good way to spend free times while waiting for random Heroic..
I am actually Enchanter and Miner... getting the pyrite bars by farming, volatile fires and waters from Mining too...
and ask 120 gold for an Alchemists Truegold cd and turning em to Truegold..And selling them for 900-1000 gold @AH
is it a bad way?
edit: Yes I think its really good for me :)..
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评论来自
healingenzo
Since the patch today, they added more targets outside of the ruins. Drop prate appears the same. But there's no need to fight with others over each kill.
They added wild camels too - so skinners like me can farm savage leather too and it cuts lots off the farming time.
评论来自
782748
Went to uldum thinking yeah 16-19% drop is great for airs.... UM NO i farmed 100 scions and got 5 freaking airs. Lame
评论来自
sjeesen
Well, killing mobs isn't that bad at all. I farmed for like 50 minutes in Uldum killing
Scion of Al'Akir
. They got around a 12% drop chance of
Volatile air
if i watch their loot table. I used a
Potion of Treasure Finding
for additional drops. After the 50 minutes, i had 40
Volatile air
. I think maybe 6 of them from the
Tiny Treasure Chests
. More things from those chests were:
Around 15 gold
3
Volatile Water
6
Embersilk Cloth
The mats are very easy to get as herbalist / alchemist, but if you aren't at least a herbalist, you have to buy the
m
a
t
s
/
potion
. I would adivise to check the prices of
the elements
first and then the mats and
the potion
to see if you are going to make any profit.
If i did 10 minutes more farming to make it a full hour and i got another treasure chest i could have gotten some more gold, 1-3 more
Volatiles
and 4-11 more
Embersilk
Another plus is that there is almost nobody here. Sometimes a
wandering
quester
or somebody doing
Archaeology
评论来自
Furydeath
But at least the Eng's with a gathering professions can get some...all 3% of them.
评论来自
304203
Farmed air in Orsis off the Scions tonight on Skywall US, 13/2/11.
146 killed, 24 drops in 1 hour, using 85 mage. About a quarter of my drops came in the form of 2 Volatile Airs, the rest were singles. I also farmed about 15 of the adjacent Sweeping Winds and got one Volatile Air off them, but was mostly on the Scions.
评论来自
Maiqua
I don't know whether it's my terrible luck but it seems like they have lowered the droprate in Orsis from the scion mobs. I didn't measure any time but last time I was there pre 4.0.6 I got more than I needed for truegold pretty quickly. Now I had to clean up the place at least three times and got only like three volatiles. On top of that I didn't get any tiny treasure chests even though Blizz said they had increased it's droprate slightly.. No greens either.
It's pretty weird since the water elementals in TwiHi still drop the volatile water at the same rate than before. Got a few of them while killing the 10 elementals for the daily JC goo -quest yesterday.
评论来自
FourDeuce
"but the best way is to ask a alchemist to create Transmute: Living Elements for you."
The problem with doing that is the cooldown is shared between Living Elements transmute and Truegold transmute. Most alchemists probably would prefer using their CD for Truegold. ;)
评论来自
Conceited
I solo normal Vortex Pinnacle for these as a Hunter.
Use a Turtle pet and Trap one of the elementals. Skip the first group(unless you're up for a challenge), kill the first group on the bridge then the 3 groups after.
After that I go out and reset. I'm sure others might be able to do more, but this is what I find to be the easiest.
A good tank with self heals(DK/Pally) can probably do this fairly easily as well.
评论来自
Talboth
The drop rate from the mobs in Orsis has definately dropped. I have killed countless Scions and Sweeping Winds and not one Volatile Air has dropped. IMO not worth the time unless you have a potion of treasure finding on and are getting chests as well.
评论来自
Firebug
Just did 2 runs on my DK solo for Normal Vortex Pinnacle. Total of 48 mobs with a 35% ish chance (pre-patch) to drop 2-6 volatile air each. First run, I had 2 drops, a 2 and a 3. Second run, none. Did they adjust the drop rate with the patch?
评论来自
360722
idk. not much new to report here.
but after doing a couple solo VP normal clears up to cloud prince and resetting, netted me only 5 airs (4.1.0). so, great challenge and fun, but low reward. don't know what drop rate was before.
ran out and started killing scions and winds. very acceptable drop rate. got 16 in about 35 minutes or so. anyone who killed the heck out of twilight cultists in vanilla for lousy CC rep, would think this a very acceptable grind imo.
评论来自
bayers
Farmed Scoins of Al'akir, killed 53 of 'em and got 4 Voilate air. . . so dont think you can make a fortune out of that.
评论来自
818789
Farming these on my Shaman for tailoring... I've found better luck with the Sweeping Winds, so I actually kept record of things today:
Scions killed: 50
Air drops: 6 (2x2)
Total Air collected: 8
Sweeping Winds killed: 50
Air drops: 10 (7x2)
Total Air collected: 17
Roughly the same amount of time spent farming each. I'd kill the Scions in Orsis, range out to the desert for Winds, and then back in to Orsis.
评论来自
616859
The drop rate for Volatile Air in Twilight Higlands (Storm Vortex, Enslaved Tempest) has dropped to ZERO since 4.1.. The price of Volatile Air has skyrocketed on my server, Darrowmere, as proof of this.
I dont understand why Blizzard would take an already rare drop and make it more rare... Alchemists, unlike other professions, have very few big ticket items to sell. Trugold is one of them. You need 10 volatile air to make 1 Truegold.. This is killing alchemists.
评论来自
FuryWar
Whenever I've farmed Air for my Blacksmithing, I've always had reasonable success farming both the Scions of Al'Akir in Orsis and the Sweeping Winds that roam the dunes nearby. Granted, the Sweeping Winds don't drop air quite as often as the Scions, but they do drop it, so, if you see one while hunting Scions, there's no reason not to take it out!
评论来自
417839
I got 22 in 30 min switching between the 2 mobs in uldum today.
评论来自
Peter4730
TWILIGHT HIGHLANDS IS A WASTE OF TIME. The Storm Vortexes and Enslaved Tempests have a really S&^T drop rate. Also they are L85, so they put up a fight, and next thing yer know, some other L85 mob is also on yer asre ........ Think I'll try the ULDUM option.
评论来自
Fbmbikerdude3
I found that soloing the mobs in regular Vortex Pinnacle as a 372 IL fury warrior to be rather easy, and a great way to get these. Farm this way if your a hunter, Blood DK, Fury warrior with lots of goodies.
评论来自
deathager
I farmed
Volatile Air
from
Scion of Al'Akir
.
> 45min, 54sec
> 176 kills
> 41 Volatile Air
Which gives an approx chance of :
23.4%
I had 492% flying speed and used macro
/tar Scion of Al'Akir
.
评论来自
266905
Seeing as how most of the posts giving drop rates for individuals are only time based, in versus to time and kill based which would be much more helpful for a comparison to one's individual farming speed and the way in which they might be able to expect the speed of drops for themselves for the rate at which they personally farm I decided to farm for a bit and post the number of kills over the amount of time and the amount of air that I got.
Over about an hour, hour and 30 minutes of farming in Uldum I killed 161 mobs, mixed between the two that spawn there, leaning heavily towards the Scion's. In that span of time I looted 14 Volatile air.
So that means, rounding and only estimating of course, that my personal drop rate for the volatile air in Uldum was 11.5%, which lines up nearly perfectly, if not lower, than what Wowhead states the drop rate is. The speed at which I killed the mobs was, since I'm estimating, between 1 mob ever 24 seconds and 1 mob every 35 seconds (since I didn't track the exact time that I farmed I devised a range based on the total number of kills that I had over the two possible time periods.).
I ran one vortex pinnacle heroic instance, with a full group that was kind enough to let me have (nearly) all of the air, which took about 25 minutes, and I got 20 Volatile air. The total number of mobs that I killed that could have dropped the air I didn't manage to get a count of, however I'm sure it's less than 40 but greater than 20, or in that range. No where near the number that I killed while farming out in the open.
It's obvious that farming in the instance is better, but as a time to effort ratio it's unbelievably better.
Also to be noted I got 5 greens in the time that I spent farming. All of the farming that I did was without the potion of treasure finding.
评论来自
861310
farmed the scion of al'akir for about 16 minutes to get the 9 i needed (already had one) i used the potion of treasure finding and killed about 63 (based upon the amount of crackling crystals and shimmering shards) for a ratio of 7- 1 for kills to volatile airs i got 2 greens and 2 chests in this time.
评论来自
863711
I killed 100 Scion of Al'Akir today and I found only 3 Volatile Air, two of the mobs dropped them. The droprate has been bad before, but not this bad.
评论来自
Nekrotik
I count 25 Scions of Al'Akir in Orsis. After 1 full clear of all 25: 18 crackling crystals, 7 shimmering shards, 1 green, no volatiles. After 2 full clears: 36 crystals, 11 shards, 1 green, 4 volatiles. The volatiles dropped in pairs, so it took 50 mobs to get 2 drops. That's pretty typical. For some reason, each time I come out to farm these, it seems to take quite a few kills in the beginning before the drops start coming regularly. After 167 mobs I had 20 volatiles from 13 drops. From what I've seen during many hours of farming these, the actual drop rate is around 7 or 8 percent. About half those drops are pairs, so I'm guessing the 12% figure given here relates to the number of volatiles looted, not the number of drops.
By the way, the rate is almost identical from the Sweeping Winds elementals that surround Orsis (most are south and southwest of the ruins) and hardly anyone seems to farm them, so if there are too many people farming in Orsis, just move south and kill them instead.
评论来自
ukkan
2 hours of farm on
Scion of Al'Akir
and i got
67 Volatile Air
. No treasure fnding potions used.
5 random greens,
灵魂扭曲之华
and getting killed by Deathwing were the bonus. I don't really see any better ways to get Volatile Airs.
评论来自
XANTHiDE
60 mins farm of
奥拉基尔的子嗣
gave me these results :D
59x
动燃空气
43x
闪光的碎片
217x
爆裂原晶
8x
小巧的财宝箱
1x
源质宝箱
1x
湿黏的链制头盔
1x
烧焦的护肩
1x
穿孔板甲护腿
1x
穿孔板甲护肩
1x
穿孔板甲束带
1x
熏黑的链制战靴
1x
奈杉德护符
2x
湿黏的链制护腿
1x
脱色板甲战靴
1x
穿孔板甲护腕
1x
迅猛龙平原护腕
评论来自
851942
I farmed the Scions in Uldum with some occasional Sweeping mobs in the rotation as I flew around.(I'd clear the site, go a little south for Sweep mobs, then come back and reclear) I detoured for 1 vein but other than that, I was killing air mobs the entire time.
Farm Time: 30mins, timed down to the minute.(Subtract 1~min for the vein I detoured for if you prefer)
Total Air Elementals killed: 97, counted all the way down to the Shards/Crystals.(They are a 100% drop rate, there's no room for doubt)
Total Volatile Air collected: 20
That's more than 1 every 2 mins, or roughly a 1 in 4 drop rate. Seriously doubt other farm locations can beat this. I'm throwing them in the AH for 40g each.(No one else has any in there, so I jacked up). Doubt they will sell for that much(Some guy will likely undercut me quickly), but even at their normal rate, which is 25g each, that's still 25 x 20 = 500g/30 mins. Using this as a very high staple, how does it compare to other farms?
Well, I've tried farming almost everything in the game in cata. Farming any kind of leather doesn't even come close, nor does any heroic runs.(Unless you are extremely lucky with Crystal win rolls and get several per run. I usually get 0 a run or 1 at best. So at this point I no longer do heroics.) For example if I farm Savage Leather, the most valuable leather type, I might get a four or 5 stacks in 30mins(AT BEST), which run for around 90g each. 90x5=450 < 500. Any older leather is less. Cata ore is a joke, because it'd take around 30mins just to get 3 stacks of Obsidium AT BEST.(aka lucky), which is what... 80gx3 if Obsidium ore(Less as bars), even less from the flooded Elementium Ore or Bars. Elementium comes in maybe 3x faster than Obsidium, but it's worth half as much(40g/ore stack atm), so it isn't worth it either. It's better... but still doesn't compete.(TB ore is a good farm for no flying speed since you can't do the others as fast as you'd like.)
If you think questing or dailies net you good gold... Laugh. It isn't a bad idea if you want rep or tokens too... but if all you're after is gold... you're far better off just running around for Ore or sitting in 1 spot skinning leather off Crocs or spiders(See the TB mob pile up spots). Simply put questing is a waste of time for gold. It's so far down on the time->gold ratio you shouldn't bother. Simply put, questing is one of the worst ways to make quest unless the quest is in addition to something else you're already doing.
So what else is there? Surprisingly Adamanite from BC threatens this formula. Stacks of this bar type go for 300g each(or 150g/ore stack), and with a farmer toon at 492% flying(Pal or Dk), you might be able to get 2 stacks in 30mins. 300gx2Bar stacks=600g > 500g. But that's just a theory. I haven't tried speed farming this on my DK. This might actually be your best farm if you fly at max speed. If you don't fly at 492... I doubt it would be vs just killing elementals. But I also didn't take Khorium into account, which is a rare BC vein worth LOTS of gold. If you ever hit one of those on your farm flight, the BC ore run would win hands down as the best way to farm in the game atm.(Seriously, 1 khorium bar=175g by itself) My next tests will be BC ore flight time runs, with my results posted on the Adamanite Ore page.
Happy farming people.
评论来自
Slinkhi
I don't know if it's bad luck or if blizz changed something or what but I just spent an hour farming Uldum > Orsis > Scions for volatile airs (also had potion of treasure finding on) and I got TWO volatile air drops. TWO. And ONE treasure chest that had nothing but gold in it. I know it's rng but wtf this seems too low to be bad luck :(
评论来自
855952
I farmed there (orsis/scions) 60 minutes straight:
16 total volatile air including what i got from the treasure chests.had treasure potion going
Good grief.......might be better to buy it.
评论来自
Jolster
Out of all the volatiles, these are by far the hardest to get. With such a low drop rate from mining and mobs its no surprise that 1 of these is 2-3x the cost of volatile earth. best way to a quire these in my opinion is to get an alchemist to do
转化:生命元素
It works out half the price of buying the Airs, and if you don't get Airs from the transmutation what you do get you can sell for enough to buy the required amounts of
动燃生命
评论来自
934260
I just did a 1 hour farm of Scion of Al'Akir in Uldum (Southern tip of Kalimdor for those that don't know where it is). I'm running a lvl 85 frost mage with just quest items and what I've made myself with tailoring. I found them really easy to farm. You could almost do it in your sleep.
There were two other people farming in the same area while I was farming. The respawn rate was high enough that it didn't seem to be a problem.
In one hour I killed 116 Scions, netting me 39 Volatile Air and 2 green items to disenchant.
评论来自
853704
Spent exactly an hour farming these at the suggested place in Uldum. I killed
only the Scions.
I did the entire thing on my ungeared 85 rogue, at a leisurely pace (stopping to check things, moving on foot).
In that hour I received;
. 39 x Volatile Air
. 4 x Tiny Treasure Chests (Containing; 3 Volatile Fire, 12 Embersilk, 2 Volatile Water, 6 Pyrite Ore, 15 gold)
. 51g's worth of grey items
. 1 piece of green hunter gear
On an engineer, I then tried 10 minutes of mining in Uldum using the Electrostatic Condenser- This brought me;
. 5 x Volatile Air
. 3 x Volatile Water
. 1 x Volatile Earth
. 1 x Volatile Fire
评论来自
46820
Today I farmed Scion of Al'Akir in Uldum for 30-45 minutes, resulting in 20x Volatile Air. The drop rates is horrendously low, but, they do drop. Good luck!
评论来自
bookworm13
Volatile. Air.
I know it needs to match the rest of the Cataclysm Volatile elements yet a perfect example of a tautology. :) Next up we have wet water.
评论来自
flopper393
This is how i do for making gold.
One of the best way (My opinion) to get some of this is u have alch, is to buy some stacks of
动燃生命
. Then go to uldum and transmute these everyday untill ur stacks run out...
The reson to buy alot of these at once is first of all, it is easier to keep track of what u get.
Second is that i found that sometimes the AH for volatile life is expensive... (sometimes
动燃空气
is cheaper than
动燃生命
, and if u just wait till they get cheap i can buy alot of
动燃生命
and then sell
动燃空气
when the are expensive.
评论来自
1007059
For me killing the Scion of Al'Akir was a waste of time, i understand that this one is a worse drop then the others, but an hour killing Scion of Al'Akir and NOT A SINGLE Volatile Air dropped, so i decided to kill the sweeping winds, after 10 minutes of killing them i got about 10 volatile air! I believe this is a better source then Scion of Al'Akir
评论来自
sapristoire
Summary: I agree with others suggesting killing around in
奥丹姆
is kinda terrible choice. Only got 21
动燃空气
in 13 drops, out of 154 kills in one hour.
In my farming session, because there are not enough
肆掠之风
, I have to include
奥拉基尔的子嗣
as well -- actually the majority of kill is the latter one. The numbers spoke itself: quite likely the dropping rate is nerfed since 4.2 days, now what I get is only about 8% instead of ~13% listed in the "Dropped by" list. The whole run already has
寻宝药水
effect on.
Another important observation:
奥拉基尔的子嗣
do drop
动燃空气
. My unscientific estimation is, the drop rate is about the same for both kind of NPCs.
评论来自
Pops715
Blizzard really screwed the pooch on this one. Drop rate in Uldum is dismal at best. After killing 40 bad guys, I only have 8 Volatile Air.
I have plenty of Volatile Life that I could transmute, but the only problem is that I'm currently transmuting Truegold bars so I can craft Vial of the Sands and Transmute: Elemental and Transmute: Metal and Stone share the same cool-down period. So if I convert some Volatile Life to Volatile Air, then I can't make a Truegold bar and vice-versa. And since I need 10 Volatile Air for each Truegold bar, I'm forced to spend an hour each day farming these. It sucks! They should each have their own cool-down period in my opinion.
评论来自
284353
I used a
Potion Of Treasure Finding
and during that hour of grinding
Scion of Al'Akir
in Uldum trying to get
Volatile Air
. I looted...
40x
Volatile Air
1x
Formula: Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect
1x
Highperch Legguards of the Bandit
1x
Aboraz Bindings of the Monkey
1x
Nethergarde Dagger of the Marksman
1x
Safecracker's Gloves
7x
Tiny Treasure Chest
(which produced)
30g 93s 13c
8x
Embersilk Cloth
14x
Volatile Life
1x
Volatile Earth
4x
Volatile Fire
4x
Volatile Water
1x
Brightwood Cord of the Sorcerer
And then the Junk...
160x
Crackling Crystals
32x
Shimmering Shards
1x
Dirt-Caked Boots
And sold the junk for a total of ... 49g 04s 85c
评论来自
999038
hardest volatile to farm!
评论来自
533861
Pretty easily obtained in MoP if you have a class that can solo things. Did the Vortex Pinnacle on my 90 paladin and didn't have much trouble soloing any of the mobs (ilvl 469 gear). Each run nets me ~ 20 Volatile Air, and I stop killing things at Altairus. Much faster than any other way I've found so far if you're not after ore.
评论来自
fishstix
If your farming the Volatile Air for the Vial of the Sands mount, I would follow Elorivan recommendation below. For the exception of killing the Sweeping Winds. These are too far out of the way and skirt around the area in Uldum where you find the Scions of Al'Akir. These are closer together and the respawn rate is close to 30-45secs if not sooner. Good luck. Oh, and try to use the Potion of Treasure Finding if you have a buddy who's an alchemist.
-Fishstics/Fishtank
Velen
Alliance
Elorivan on 2011/04/23 (Patch 4.0.6)
If you're looking to farm Volitile air, I recommend killing Scions of Al'Akir, rather than Sweeping Winds. The scions are quite close together, and seem to have a pretty short respawn rate.
评论来自
1057631
I saw there was drop chance from a lvl. 5! Not even an elite? So now all can farm Volatile Air! =)
评论来自
savvasferrari
I tried all the methods that many have described... The best solution is
mining at Uldum
....
评论来自
Xilu82
Best place by far is the Vortex Pinnacle trash. Normal mode - kill all the trash, zone out, reset, repeat.
评论来自
Thiron
If you want just an average number of those, you can try killing
花翼巢穴女王
for
巢穴女王的蜂胶
Just zone in, kill it, zone out and reset instance. For a level 90 character it takes just 1-2 minutes. Each Honeycomb contains 4-6 air.
Using this method, you can get 20-30 Volatile Air in just 5-10 minutes, and the loot is
guaranteed
too, no low drop chance and bad luck streaks.
Downside is that you can only join 5 instances per hour, so if you want more than 20-30 air, you should use other places.
评论来自
romansamurai
Normal Vortex Pinnacle no question. Up to 2nd boss. I would get about 25-40 volatile air per run. Fast and easy. Takes all of 10 minutes per run probably. With 5.4 and even timeless isle gear you should have no trouble soloing this with any toon.
评论来自
fokka
It seems that they've nerfed drop rate of this from
旋云之巅
mobs.
评论来自
MappyT
You can farm these pretty efficiently by killing the trash before the first boss in Vortex Pinnacle and then resetting.
I did it on my druid with
and
芬德尔的远程拾取器
Averaged about 15-20 per run.
评论来自
Bowserkills7
One run of the Vortex Pinnacle heroic gave me 16 of these.
评论来自
758360
Confirmed! Vortex Pinnacle is the best place to farm air. 20-25 per run on heroic, 10-15 on normal. Any geared 90 can sweep it in 15 minutes!
评论来自
Splatted
As a druid, you can run around in Stag (Travel Form) which helps kite things a lot quicker in
旋云之巅
for
动燃空气
, go all the way up to
阿尔泰鲁斯
and can even farm him in normal for
北风幼龙缰绳
.
...which I got twice...in two runs one after another lol.
评论来自
xScarlife
Hello friends,
If you are wondering where to farm for Volatile Air, I have made an in depth video about that which you can find by clicking
here
.
The best spot to farm for Volatile Air in my opinion is inside the Vortex Pinnacle dungeon located in Uldum.
There you have to kill the air elementals, loot them, go back to the entrance, reset the instance and repeat that process.
Note that you can only enter a dungeon 10 times in one hour. If you get locked out of the instance, you have to wait one hour to repeat or you can park a second alt at the instance and continue farming with your alt until your cooldown is gone.
Make sure before you enter and start your farm, that you set the dungeon difficulty on Heroic and don't kill any bosses.
评论来自
KKthx
The best and most efficient way I've found to farm
Volatile Air
is to go to
Zul'Gurub
and kill
Florawing Hive Queen
. You can find her at the beginning of the instance... once you enter, go all the way down those stone steps and immediately turn LEFT. Keep going about 50 yards and you will see her hovering above a pond.
Now that you can do 10 instances in an hour, I go do this on my rogue and just park her outside the instance for an hour until the restriction has expired. From start to finish, it takes me less than 10 minutes to do all 10 kills/resets. What you want off the
Hive Queen
is
Hive Queen's Honeycomb
, which drops almost everytime (98% chance). I must have killed her at least 200+ times already, and only ONCE she didn't drop
Hive Queen's Honeycomb
. The bonus of farming
Volatile Air
this way is that you will also be getting other mats at the same time, all of which are contained in
Hive Queen's Honeycomb
! I usually get about 45-55
Volatile Air
AND
Volatile Life
per 10 kills, so it will take you less than 30 min (not counting the 1 hr downtimes in between) to get enough to make
Vial of the Sands
, which I make fairly often for guild mount raffles... so if you are looking to make the same item, this is a great way to do it! You will also get
Twilight Jasmine
from the Honeycomb, and I ususally get about 45-55 of those every 10 kills as well.
P.S.
It takes 120
Volatile Air
to make
Vial of the Sands
, but you also need 128
Volatile Life
for the flasks required in that recipe.
But
, you should get enough
Volatile Life
within those 30 kills because the
Hive Queen's Honeycomb
is supposed to drop about as much Life as Air (4-6 of each). If you are intending to farm the mats for this mount yourself, and are going to pick the herbs required (
Azshara's Veil
x64,
Whiptail
x128, and
Cinderbloom
x64), you also have a 39% per Wowhead to obtain
Volatile Life
from picking any of those 3 herbs... although I'm not sure how much each time... it's probably a range of 1-3 Life if it appears with any of those herbs while gathering (should have paid closer attention!).
And
remember... if you have an alchemist make the flasks required for this recipe (
Flask of Titanic Strength
x8 and
Flask of the Winds
x8) instead of buying them off the AH, you will likely get *at least* 1 proc per type of flask (since you are making 8 of each), and end up with even more flasks than needed... so if you are short a few herbs, don't worry!
****EDIT: Spent all day today testing the quantity of
Volatile Life
that can be picked when herbing cata herbs. Looks like when you find a herb node that does have
Volatile Life
in it, you will always get 2-3 per node.
评论来自
ZephiraZ
Some numbers and comparisons:
花翼巢穴女王
: Ten kills yielded 50 Twilight Jasmine, 50 Volatile Air, and 47 Volatile Life. It took maybe five minutes to reach the 10-instance limit. This alone would take 3-4 hours to get enough Volatile Air and Volatile Life to craft the Vial of the Sands.
奥拉基尔的子嗣
: While waiting for the instance limit to expire, I got another 42 Volatile Air in 30-40 minutes killing these guys in Orsis, Uldum.
旋云之巅
: Ten runs of killing all monsters - except for two of the Lurking Tempests - before the first boss yielded 142 Volatile Air. This took 20-30 minutes at 110% movement speed as a mage with various distractions.
If you're strapped for time, go for the ten kills in Zul'gurub. If you don't want to bother with instances, the Scion of Al'akir is decent. If you have time to kill and the patience for farming, the Vortex Pinnacle is the way to go.
评论来自
johnnysebre
Zul'Gurub has a decent way of not only getting air, but also life and earth. There are two elites mini-bosses you can kill that drop volatiles every time, then reset instances, and do it over and over until you hit the hourly limit.
As other comments pointed out, the Florawing Hive Queen drops a honeycomb container which once opened, will drop about 4-6 air AND life (26 runs, my average of 4.9 air and 5.4 life). She is hovering over the water on your left right at the entrance of the dungeon; just hug the left wall as soon as you zone in.
Tor-Tun the turtle drops about 5-8 earths (24 runs, my average was 6.5), he is in the water just SW of High Priest Venoxis (first boss), not far from to the middle of the map.
评论来自
Celticzero
In Legion 7.3.5 I farmed 114 of
动燃空气
in 18 minutes with my 900 ilvl warrior in Vortex Pinnacle. I pulled everything across the first bridge, down the spiral ramp and down the stairs. Then I took a left at the bottom of the stairs and hid behind the pillar till everything caught up then bladestorm it all. 10 run with 114 farmed is 11.4 per run. I had two runs where I looted none, and one run where Iooted 25. The rest were somewhere in the middle. I also looted some greens/blues of reasonable value (1-5k mkv) but I just vendored it all.
评论来自
NeonDisease
As of 8.0, you can no longer farm the Florawing Hive Queen - you only get a honeycomb from your first kill of the day now.
Vortex Pinnacle trash to the 2nd bridge and then resetting is still a viable method.
评论来自
Ssateneth
Does not come from mining as far as I can tell. Mined over a thousand elementium/pyrite nodes, and not a single air. Wowhead's data is either wrong or outdated.
评论来自
dannyboytexas
After farming The Vortex Pinnacle until I got the lock out, i received 111 Volatile Air, Least amount gotten per pull 6, most 22.
评论来自
ExlexEu
I am very curious about the reason of them being bought for 40g + per unit as of 8.3. can someone enlighten me? ^^
评论来自
nanotubedemon
For completeness: I've been running normal Vortex Pinnacle to farm these, and I've been getting ~40 per run. That plus the gear for disenchanting or raw gold makes this worthwhile for me.
评论来自
Fpiceail
This appears to no longer drop from Vortex Pinnacle in Shadowlands. I'm trying to level Cataclysm Engineering on the beta for a toy and I'm trying to get Volatile Air. I did 2 runs of Vortex Pinnacle and not a single Volatile Air dropped.
EDIT: Evidently not the case once 9.0 hit live servers. Happy farming!
评论来自
Black7en
Can confirm 22.11.2020. Vortex Pinnacle (Normal) is still the best farming Spot. 1 Run = ~30 Air.
Happy Farming
评论来自
ohatcheejack
I've been farming these from The Vortex Pinnacle while attempting to get the Altairus mount. They get a decent amount of gold from the AH.
评论来自
ggregt
Getting my
Loot-a-Rang
back after dropping Engineering in DF, I had to grind back up to 70 to be able to use it. Saw the comments so ran Vortex Pinnacle heroic, and was dismayed that only 4
Volatile Air
dropped. So I re-ran VP on normal and got 32 in about 6 minutes on my druid. So normal. Do it on normal. Der. (Also heroic is obviously not repeatable.)
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