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评论来自
Matte95
I'm a big phan of this achievement.
On a serious note: you earn phantasma by killing enemies in Torghast at any layer. Every mob drops some, excluding mawrats and the last boss of level 6.
All phantasma earned, even if spent, counts towards the achievement.
This is an IMMENSE amount of phantasma to get. The Phantastic achievement already takes a bit, and this is the same, but 10 times more.
I suggest not even trying to farm this one. Just get it naturally through the course of the expansion. You can still use the Anima Cell on the Broker to get a slight boost, but it's still going to take ages.
评论来自
Desmian
Found a way to easy farm 2,5k per run. Go to the Fracture Chambers or the Upper Reaches and buy
Ravenous Anima Cell
from broker. After use in on mob to get
Marrow Scooper
buff. Kill sceletons and get tons of fanatisma! It's still gonna take some time to complete 250k, but it's much faster this way
评论来自
SwordBreath
If you are a Warrior, you can maximize Phantasma by stacking
Pleonexian Command (See comment)
and using Whirlwind to farm a large amount of anima per run.
I recommend the Twisting Corridors so that you can stack it to a really high number and get anima multipliers.
评论来自
yagyu79
ok so imagine you did all the torghast has to offer got all the items and this is the only thing left and its still a big grind left, the question is why would anyone do this for no reward ?
评论来自
violetta
this really should give a title of "The Phanatic" or something
评论来自
Niixten
Would be much better if
幻狂
were account wide.
评论来自
pentheraphobia
Writing this in the middle of a Twisting Corridors run where i've got:
30 Phantasma earned per Chaos Bolt (6 stacks of +5 Phantasma each).
125% bonus Phantasma, so actually 68 per Chaos Bolt (5 stacks of +25% each, it rounds up).
Chaos Bolts no longer costs soul shards (can cast infinitely).
In the Fracture Chambers, there are sometimes
cauldrons that infinitely respawn skeletons
.
Made a "/targetenemy " macro for chaos bolt and backed myself into a corner where I could see the whole room.
Also figured out I could take off my weapon and click off a couple buffs so the skeletons would take 2-3 hits to die instead of 1.
Literally just spam one button without having to move or do anything else. Figure I'm getting about 1000 Phantasma per minute, from where I'm at I could have this achievement in only.. three or four hours!
Not sure how many classes can try to replicate a build like this.
评论来自
bomsquad
I decided to work on this achievement, and I think Affliction Warlock might be a little OP for this.
I started a layer 1 Twisted Corridors to minimize damage taken.
I think by level 18 I had 9 stacks of
暴食者伪装
, which gives 5
幻灭心能
per cast of
灾难狂欢
. I also had
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
as well as
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
. Each cast of
灾难狂欢
was getting me 112
幻灭心能
at the end. I'll admit, I was milking it. I'd only cast
腐蚀术
and then start in with
灾难狂欢
while my Voidwalker tanked.
Regular mobs were almost being killed by the
腐蚀术
cast alone. I was often lucky to get one or two
灾难狂欢
casts off before it was dead. On elites, rares and the boss, however, I was able to get a lot of casts off before they died. I'd try to single pull everything to maximize the
幻灭心能
generation.
I'd say the strategy worked, and I got my
幻狂
achievement.
On my last run for the achievement I finished with 62051
幻灭心能
after buying everything the vendors offered every time I encountered one.
评论来自
WuSage3
I used Twisting Corridors to farm this. If you restart TC until either
The Upper Reaches
or
The Fracture Chambers
is your starting zone, you can always get the
Ravenous Anima Cell
from the Broker Vendor at Floor 3. This allows you to get the power
Marrow Scooper
Anima Power on Floor 4 which will last you through 14 more floors, potentially one set of which being another
The Upper Reaches
or
The Fracture Chambers
.
This usually floods you with
幻灭心能
, you can jackpot yourself into 5-20k
幻灭心能
by the end of the run depending on your luck with the floors and other Anima Powers like
Unstabled Phantasma Lure
or
Fractured Phantasma Lure
. The Ve'nari Upgrade
Possibility Matrix
and the Anima Power
Enchanted Thieves' Tools
are both really powerful toward getting more Lures, and having both is even better. These Lures stack with
Marrow Scooper
and are a huge source of
幻灭心能
.
This flooding of
幻灭心能
usually lets you buy out subsequent vendors' entire stock of powers and Anima Cells, including more
Ravenous Anima Cells
. These can be used on the final floor, floor 18's vendor to give you another 400
幻灭心能
to top off your run. Don't use it before floor 18, the vendor won't be there again on subsequent floors if you do it early.
If you encounter a
Lost Dredger
, be careful of any Anima Powers you have that might kill it prematurely. If you clear the entire floor, then engage it and poke him (without killing him), he will drop some
幻灭心能
you can pick up as well as his Anima Power and then run away to the exit portal to the next floor. Once there he will cast
Escape!
and if you use a
Ravenous Anima Cell
on it during that cast, you'll get a portal to a room with 100-300
幻灭心能
plus four or five Anima Powers.
评论来自
udovar575
There is a really easy way to get this achievement in 2-3 hours standing afk with ANY CLASS.
To get the achievement you only need 2 things:
1. The torment "Unstable Phantasma" (the blob thing) needs to be up. (torments reset daily if i am not mistaken, check every day).
2. You need to get any anima power that Increases you Phantasma earned. For example anything from 10%, 25%, 50% or even 100%.
Explanation:
The blod mob spawn exactly every 4 minutes. Each time you kill the blob you get your phantasma back. The twist here is if you have an anima power that provides increased phantasma earned you will get that much percent more anima returned after each kill. Keep in mind this racks up pretty high as the number gets bigger and bigger so i would advise to SAVE as much phantasma as possible so you don't start from 100 like me. If you start from 1000 or even higher you already saved yourself an hour or two. At the end i was getting like 10-12k every 4 minutes.
Conclusion:
A badly designed achievement that grants you only 5 POINTS can now be done in a few hours standing afk (only tabbing into the game every 4 min to kill the blob). If you got lucky with anima powers you can do this probably in under 1 hour. If you didn't get lucky and you got only the 10% or 25% phatasma earned power you got 2 options, to reset the run or just afk for 2-3 hours until you get it. In any scenario you will get this achievement just by standing afk for a few hours instead of running torg for hours and days.
SHOUT OUT:
This little trick was found by a fellow member of the Daugens Community (you know who you are <3).
评论来自
Zarillion
It is possible to get all 250k
幻灭心能
for this achievement in 2-3 runs of the Twisting Corridors as a destruction warlock. On
my first attempt (screenshot)
to see how much phantasma I could earn in a single run, I ended the run with over 160k. The build revolves around the
污血之瓶
and
暴食者伪装
powers, turning your
混乱之箭
into a filler that generates phantasma on every cast.
In the run above I was earning 90 phantasma per chaos bolt at the end with:
1x
稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
(Back)
4x
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
8x
暴食者伪装
If you luck out and encounter the rare that provides
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
, you could earn well over 200k in a single run.
Tips to reproduce:
Run Twisting Corridors on Layer 1, higher layers will not be as efficient.
Get the
污血之瓶
power as early as possible. If it is not one of your three options after you kill the boss on floor 6, you should consider restarting.
Once you get
污血之瓶
, dismiss your pet and cast no damaging spells other than
混乱之箭
for the rest of the run.
Do not right-click pots! Cast
混乱之箭
on each individual pot for more phantasma.
Do not use
浩劫
, it does not consistently give you credit for both casts of
混乱之箭
.
Each time you reach a vendor,
empty it out
! This will increase your odds at getting desirable powers on future vendors.
Use
贪婪的心能单元
to collect the
噬渊鼠缰绳
and
髓吸挖掘者
powers as early as possible. The harness is in the regular pool of powers, so you want to remove it.
Get the last boss to the point where the next
混乱之箭
would kill them, then die and repeat until you run out of available deaths. If you make it to floor 18 without dying, you can pull the boss 6 times to gain additional phantasma at your maximum rate.
You will want to choose powers in a way that will maximize your chances at additional
暴食者伪装
throughout the run. Use the following priority list:
污血之瓶
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
/
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
Any other epic power if you do not have
污血之瓶
yet to increase the chances of it appearing at floor 6.
暴食者伪装
佐瓦尔的决意
(this will help with longer elites/bosses as they gain stacks)
充血水蛭
(this will help sustain you later in the run)
Any unique power that can only be obtained once. This will remove it from the pool of powers, making the above powers more likely to appear.
Any class/spec specific power, as many of these can only stack to a certain amount before they stop appearing.
Any generic stacking power. Try to avoid
鼓胀饲料
until you have no other options, and avoid breaking pots or damaging mobs with them.
Oberlon armament powers. These do not have a meaningful cap, so taking them does not increase the chances of any other powers appearing.
Choosing between stamina armaments and secondary stat armaments will depend on your gear. I am currently 250 ilvl, so I took all stamina powers and ended the run with ~30k damage Chaos Bolts. The last boss has ~3M health, so I was able to cast around 100 times each pull and pull it 6 times for ~54k phantasma total just off the last boss. If you have less gear, you may need to take more secondary stat boosts to prevent bosses from gaining too many stacks of
非自然之力
.
As others have noted on this page, if you luck out and find a cauldron with endless spawning skeletons on one of the last floors, you can sit there and farm phantasma near your maximum rate for as long as you like.
评论来自
Sarthorius
The +100% Drop Anima Power you might be after, that makes this one even faster (stacks with other powers) drops from the
活化冥殇
|
活化冥殇
rare.
If, for ANY instance, you stumble upon it, try and get this achievement.
评论来自
LuckerNr1
In response to udovar575's comment I did some testing and calculations regarding
不稳定的幻灭心能
:
Every time
幻灭心能融合体
spawns it takes 25% of you current
幻灭心能
幻灭心能融合体
itself drops 25
幻灭心能
In loot chat you will get two entries
on spawn: the remaining amount of
幻灭心能
after 25% have been stolen
on kill: the amount of
幻灭心能
you get back by killing
幻灭心能融合体
, by default 25% of your original amount + 25
Even though both values are listed as loot only the second item counts towards
幻狂
TLDR:
Approximation for the
幻灭心能
value of the Nth kill of
幻灭心能融合体
after the first kill (the approximation will always be a little lower then the actual amount):
B(0) = on kill
幻灭心能
value of the first kill
F = multiplier from buffs like
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
, e.g. two stacks of
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
would be 2*0.25 = 0.5
B(n) = B(0) * ((4+F)/4)^n
Total
幻灭心能
amount after Nth kill of
幻灭心能融合体
after the first kill:
B(0) * (4^(-n) * (4 + F)^(n + 1) - 4))/F
END of TLDR;
To get the amount of
幻灭心能
the next
幻灭心能融合体
kill grants, you can use this formula:
A = your current
幻灭心能
F = multiplier from buffs like
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
, e.g. two stacks of
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
would be 2*0.25 = 0.5
I didn't test, if different kind of buffs are additive or multiplicative
M = 1 + F
B = (0.25*A*M) + (25*M)
Your new total would be:
A(2) = (0.75*A) + B
If you have something like Excel you can calculate the sum of all B(n) untill you get up to 250000. The formula for this is easier is you have columns for A(n) and B(n) values. If you only want to calculate B(n) values you can take the second
幻灭心能
you get from the first kill and use the following formula to get the next values:
B = B(n) = last value
C = B(n+1) = next value
C = ( ( ( (B - 25*M) / M) * 3 + B) / 4 + 25) * M
For bigger numbers the 25 base
幻灭心能
becomes less relevant and can be ignored and we can approximate the Nth value as:
B(n) = B(0) * ((4+F)/4)^n
With this approximation, the sum of N kills towards the Achievement will be :
n = (total kills) -1
B(0) * (4^(-n) * (4 + F)^(n + 1) - 4))/F
Example for B(0) = 1000; F = 0.5 and a total of 10 kills (n = 9):
1000 * (4^(-9) * (4 + 0.5)^(9 + 1) - 4))/0.5 ~= 17978,56...
评论来自
Fose
Take any increase in phantasma earned i.e
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
+
稳定的幻心诱饵的回忆
and clear everything including the final boss in Adamant vaults. go into a tower with
不稳定的幻灭心能
as a torment and just camp inside the bubble of the last broker ( just to prevent losing phantasma if you go afk ) and go out every 4 minutes to kill
不稳定的幻灭心能
You can be done in a few hours if you're lucky with
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
评论来自
Horsekebab
Just adding on to what many others are posting, regarding getting phantasma loot multipliers and going into a Torghast wing with the Unstable Phantasma torment active:
Currently (10th of september 2022), the Unbridled Darkness Torghast event is active, during which you can choose a special power from the first Anima Hoard. Doing so will unlock several new powers, one of them being
Weight of Darkness
. Clearing up to and including Adamant vaults should provide at least one or two of those. With two stacks, you should be able to complete this achievement in one hour, from scratch!
评论来自
twinkletwinkle
Did this in one twisted corridors run as a destro warlock (warlock mandatory imo)
luck out and get Unstabled Phantasma Lure or Fractured Phantasma Lure along side chaos bolt gives +phantasma (i had around 10~ stacks) and chaos bolt no longer requires soul shards
chaos bolt everything all the way until floor18 final boss and you should be pretty close, i suicided 4 times on the final boss to get the most out of the run and just managed to scrape it.
edit: level 220 or so warlock with no legendaries (literally just zerith mortis anima gear), so my damage wasnt that powerful for TC layer 1.
评论来自
JeackTL
I used the method described by udovar575, but found a strange bug(?). I started with +100% phantasma and 2000 phantasma (in last boss room), and was gaining about 1.5x per blob until I was getting 15k-20k per kill. At that point I was not longer getting 1.5x more per kill, so there might be a sort of soft cap around that point.
Still a painless method, this is just an FYI for people who might be on a timer.
评论来自
dillybar
I knew with the Dragonflight expansion, at level 70 Torghast would be easier, so I wanted to do a few hours of farming because this was the last Torghast achievement I needed.
I had roughly 180k
幻灭心能
, and based on my previous rate of gathering, I figured it was going to be probably about 25 to 30 runs to get enough for the achievement.
That being said, I wanted to follow the instructions here to see if there was an easier way.
I read the post about using the
不稳定的幻灭心能
, then the other post about going into
断骨密室
and using
髓吸挖掘者
on a mob, so I figured I'd try both to maximize my haul.
I went in on level 16, to maximize the chance of having the Unstable Phantasma as one of my torments.
Was doing well, got 2 of the
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
before 3rd floor, and on 3rd floor bought the
贪婪的心能单元
.
Unfortunately I found out on the 4th floor right away that you can't use Marrow Scooper on a skeleton. That only gives the option
骷髅卫徒
, so I messed that up.
However, by the end of the normal run I had 4244 phantasma, it was a flawless run, and I was quite happy.
Because it was flawless, I could continue into
坚钢宝库
.
Once inside I got very lucky, another Unstable Phantasma Lure, and a little bit later, got the
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
buff.
I had 6,101 phantasma at the end of the first Fractured floor, and decided to sit for awhile and let the Unstable Phantasma come to me.
Then things got wild.
Within a couple of kills, I was at 19,887 phantasma.
A couple more kills, 41,264
At this point I knew I'd have the achievement, each kill was giving compounding returns.
59,386, then 85,437, and so on.
I blasted on past 250k, and kept going, each kill giving more and more phantasma.
Somewhere around my 12th kill, I got 1,058,429 phantasma,
for a grand total of 3,477,537
in roughly an hour and a half.
I called it good after that, even though a devious part of me really wanted to see if I could get to a billion.
Cliff notes: If you want to get this achievement quick, wait for
不稳定的幻灭心能
as a torment, pick EVERY phantasma increaser (like
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
,
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
, etc), pick up a few thousand phantasma, then sit and kill the Unstable Phantasma every 4 minutes.
评论来自
Dyzdaemar
"To get the achievement you only need 2 things:
1. The torment "Unstable Phantasma" (the blob thing) needs to be up. (torments reset daily if i am not mistaken, check every day)."
Is there an easy way to "check" without going to each one and looking? Is there a list, or a chart, or a daily guide in the wowhead database?
评论来自
Luke03097
Currently all wings of Torghast are available so you just have to go and check them one by one and see where Unstable Phantasma affix is active.
Then just follow what other comments says: farm anima, when you are done, just wait and kill blob eveery 4min.
I managed to get 2x25% increased anima (Unstable Anima Lure) but with every Unstable Phantasma blob killed I was receiving only ~12,5% more anima with every kill (after blob spawned I was instantly getting some anima back, then after kill the rest of stolen anima was given - only the second part of regained anima was counted towards achiev progress)
评论来自
LaffiBoozegnome
Here is a different comment than the others:
After finishing every single Torgast instance at least once, on eveyr difficulty, I ended up with 50000 phantasma.
Just so you know how much you get for playing it regulary.
Keep in mind that I started to skip alot of mobs in the 18 floor Twisting Corridors, so I didn't actually farm for this achievement.
评论来自
FuNkowah
Just a few tips if you are going with
不稳定的幻灭心能
trick, besides of the ones i've seen already in the comments:
强化幻灭心能
didn't count towards the achievement for me, but i was able to see the "received currency" message for this.
As i see 2 messages saying "You recieve currency: x - - -", only the second message was the real amount counting for the achieve.
If you find the
自动体挖掘者
anima power, just take it. If you think other comments saying you just need to be aware of killing the
幻灭心能融合体
every 4 minutes while it spawns is easy but tedious, then with automa anima power you literally can be afk doing other stuff or watch a movie, and just click or move your mouse time to time to cancel logging out. The
自动体挖掘者
is able to SOLO kill it.
Some comments say
不稳定的幻灭心能
is a daily, and you need to check every day looking for it. I just tried to queue into every wing until i found one with the torment up.
Buy and use
掠夺来的心能单元
and
征用的心能单元
from
掮灵威·肯
or
掮灵威·诺特
, these anima cells have a chance to get
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
.
Don't go like crazy trying to reach the end of the wing you got the torment. Kill everything and complete the entire zone to get 5 diamonds score (flawless) in order to get into
坚钢宝库
; the chances of getting more anima powers will be higher.
Hope this information helps, besides of all the older information in the comments.
评论来自
Niriam
Okay, so as far as I know the only way you can get
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
is through killing
活化冥殇
. Because of that the easiest way to do this achievement by using the
不稳定的幻灭心能
trick that worked for me was:
- make a macro and type in /target Animated Stygia and drag it anywhere to your action bar,
- check your Torghast wings until you find one that has
不稳定的幻灭心能
,
- go in, spam your macro, if there's nothing - go out, try again until you have a target on the Animated Stygia confirmed - should instantly tag it even if it's on the other side of the room,
This way you're guaranteed to have the
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
which makes it A LOT faster than trying to scramble one or two random 25% buffs. For me it was done on the Upper Reaches wing but according to
活化冥殇
site, it should be capable of spawning on any wing.
Even if you can obtain the
破碎的幻灭心能诱饵
in any other way, I couldn't find enough information online on the topic, so from what I've seen, this is the most reliable method of farming this achievement. Should any other mob drop it, you can adjust your macro accordingly by adding more /target parts. If it's not from a mob but it also drops, for example, from chests, well, I think this way it'll just be faster since you can instantly zone in/out and reset the instance without relying as much on chance. Will appreciate any feedback though if anyone finds this helpful or thinks there's a better way.
评论来自
entropicdragon
TLDR:
When you kill the Amalgamation, you will see two "You receive currency" messages. The Phantasma in the *second message* is the amount that your achievement increases by.
My experience, and some math:
Starting with 2.5k phantasma and three
不稳定的幻灭心能诱饵
s (increases Phantasma earned by 75%), this took
22 kills
of the
幻灭心能融合体
(about an hour and a half)
today to go from 0 to 250,000 Phantasma earned on the achievement.
The Amalgamation almost always spawned 4 minutes 10 seconds from its previous spawn; rarely it would take 4 minutes 20 seconds or 4 minutes 30 seconds; and there were two spawns near the beginning that took 10 minutes 1 second and 7 minutes 20 seconds.
(I was standing near a Broker's safety bubble near the beginning; this may have had an effect.)
Formula for Phantasma Gained
Start with
X
phantasma, and
P
percent phantasma increase (in my case, P=75%).
When the Amalgamation spawns, it steals 25% of your phantasma.
The amount it did NOT steal is returned to you with a message:
You receive currency: \x (75% of X)
This does NOT count towards the achievement.
When you kill the Amalgamation, it returns that 25% of X it stole, plus P times 25% of X, plus 44.
(I don't know why there's an extra 44. It just showed up when I did the math!)
This second quantity which it returns to you is given with a second message:
You receive currency: \x (25% of X) + (P * 25% of X) + 44
This quantity WILL progress your achievement. So
you get credit for the amount it stole and you retrieved, in addition to the bonus amount
you get from the Phantasma Lures.
Example
Let's say you have 1600 phantasma and 75% increase.
When the Amalgamation spawns, it will steal 400 Phantasma and you'll retain 1200. You'll get a message
You receive currency: \x 1200
When you kill the Amalgamation you'll get back 400 + 300 + 44. You'll get a message:
You receive currency: \x 744
And you'll get credit for
744 phantasma
looted on your achievement.
Hope this helps and let me know if you figure out where the 44 (or sometimes 43 or 45) extra phantasma is coming from!
评论来自
Xemnuz
Just went from 150k to 250k this evening in prolly 1 hour after trying multiple evenings to get the % increases. Unstable Phantasma has to be up that day, I logged out outside a Torghast wing and checked each day, it was up like 3 times in one week.
I tried first with 25% increase, that took for ever so would not recommend it. The next 2 attempts I didn't get any % increase, but my last try yesterday I got 25% + 25% and at the flawfless floor I got the 100% extra Fractured Phantasma Lure, that with like 1500 phantasma doubled and doubled and hit achievement quite fast. All of these attempts were at Fracture Chambers wing and went flawless for the extra floors each time. I wish you good luck!
链接
幻狂
拾取250000个幻灭心能。
达成条件
拾取250000个幻灭心能。
(
250000
)
指南
Torghast's Twisting Corridors
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