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评论来自
5331
Dagger for a caster, but rogues seem to like them too..
This and Orb of the Forgottens seer, or the horde quest reward from the SM quest is very good combos.
评论来自
5385
I got two of these on my rogue mostly for a joke back before patch 2.0 when they were still 'one hand' (+intellect for skilling up haha), but as daggers at that level go, it's actually quite good:
* DPS-wise it's the best of the
easily obtainable daggers in the 30s bracket
(ed. note: Prior to the great-honor-change the best dagger for 39 was a rep reward). A team of stealthers can farm these in no time (if you're farming with druids they are assured a great blue for casting, the
Illusionary Rod
).
* The speed is ideal for use with poison. Paired with the
Sword of Omen
it was the best a rogue could get out of SM; The next PVE upgrades are coming out of RFD and Maraudon.
(Still, we rogues can get these pretty easily, so don't take them away from mages, warlocks, shamans or priests. They'd get more mileage out of this dagger for certain.)
(Edited because voters couldn't see it was originally posted before 2.0 changed its handedness. It should be noted though, that since this can't be off-handed with the Sword of Omen any more that you may as well get the new and improved version of the
Bloody Brass Knuckles
, lower DPS sadly. Of
the off-hand choices
, it's probably the best you could do. )
评论来自
2126
This is one of the best caster weapons available for the level, and should last quite a while. If you're a mage, pairing it with Celestial Orb (
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=7515
) works quite nicely.
评论来自
5909
Combine this Dagger with the NightSky Orb as a Warlock and you have a great pair (
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=15929
)
评论来自
Blacktalis
This is a castor dagger from Scarlet Monastaries Library, but with the permission of the castors in your party, this also makes for one of the best hitting Rogue Daggers at that level.
评论来自
7901
This is a caster item, as all the stats and +damage are directly related to their abilities and spells. The fact that it is a dagger attracts the attention of many rogues, but infact there are a few other options for daggers on both factions that provide far more bonus to the rogue class. (drops from Arcanist Doan in Scarlet Monastery Library)
Such as the
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=10761
Or if your from alliance.
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=6831
Leave the caster items for the casters.
Unless there are none around.
评论来自
8939
This dagger is a joke for Mages who don't already have who already have Rod of the Sleepwalker (which is obtainable at level 24):
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=1155
You also would be more fortunate as a caster if this dropped from the boss:
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=7713
评论来自
Flanker
That dagger was nerfed and is totally useless now. As a Main Hand, this is a horrible choice. I use The Ziggler (
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=8006
) as my Main Hand and Howling Blade (
https://www.cuckhead.com/classic/item=6331
) as my offhand. That, even though I have this weapon. This would make an excellent Offhand, but as a Main hand, there are much better choices.
评论来自
Raidan
i realised this nerf just recently.. but as a 70 rogue i'm not alway up to date with lvl ~30 caster weaps ;D
It's a shame to see the change... i can rember swinging this thing in my offhand when i was at this "age" (nearly two years ago :O )
now i was thinking of it as a wonderfull shami weapon (dual or offhand) but now that won't work out anymore :-/
(or at last not like i wanted it to happen....)
评论来自
4928
Stat wise is thing is almost as good as the Mind Carver sword form DM west, and can last quite a few level if you got a good off-hand. Like the one horde gets form their SM quest.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the ideal dagger for a Mage who doesn't want to weild a staff... with a good off-hand item, can get 12+ INT bonus. ^^ I'm gonna convince my level 51+ Paladin friend to help my 35 mage to run through Scarlet Monastery.
评论来自
Thottbot
Shhh... dont tell anyone, but Shamans use daggers too. Quite effective with Flurry and Windflurry weapon buff.
评论来自
Thottbot
I use it and the orb of lorica or the reward for the mage quest back and forth... Lovely DPS, more than I'd get from a staff, which is great for soloing or if the paladin puts up seal of wisdom so I can stab something and get MP. One thing, though, the dagger doesn't have +beastslaying on it by default :P
评论来自
Thottbot
this dagger rules for shamans, how can u not see that?
At that lvl, there are few 1H weaps that can compare to its dps, the +int mod is good for shams, plus the speed is great for our procs (more swings = more chances for windfury, crits, flurry, etc)
I killed Doan 5x and have his damn staff...but I want this dagger...bad...
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a kickass shaman dagger, hell even good for a mage/druid/warlock.
评论来自
Thottbot
wow you guys are dumb as hell. you do know that casters can use daggers too.(i play a rogue, i'm just not retarded)
评论来自
Thottbot
...perchance making a cloth wearing friend for life because you're such a nice guy / knowledgeable player...
Reason:
This dagger isn't really good for a rogue
Why:
- Useless stats ("8 INT, ZOMG, i cna liek splle bettr now")
- Speed, it's too fast to be any good
If you're a dagger rogue, you'll do more Backstab / Ambush / SS / Elvis damage with a
green
dagger: A Razor Blade of the Monkey/Tiger/agility has a higher damage range AND potentially useful stats (5/5 AGI/STA; 5/5 AGI/STR; 7 AGI). Go buy one of these, do some Warsong before 40 & buy a Scout's/Sentinel's Blade when you've the rep.
If you're a dps-centered Combat build (SS/Elvis/S&D;/Riposte), you're better off with a sword or mace at that level anyway (if you're Horde, get the quest sword from BFD - 2.8 speed, 35-67 damage range, 15 AP, does the trick til you can get Vanquisher's Sword or Sword of Omen).
As an off-hand dagger, pfft, FFS go buy some green 'of the monkey' 1.4/1.5 crap & you're pretty much guaranteed not to notice much of a difference.
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a mage/warlock dagger, stats clearly benifit any caster but i think a mage and warlock would benifit from this the most. Any rogue that ever "needs" this item is most likly the dumbest rogues around cause the stats do not at all benifit a rogue
评论来自
Thottbot
I personally play 1 of each class and rogue as my farming class i would never roll against a caster for this
Reason 1: To quick only use would be offhand poisons but i prefer swords/maces in Off because of the higher damage(imp dual wield)
Reason 2: Useless for stats like an offhand should be i use something of the tiger/monkey/agility for my off
Reason 3: Casters can use offhand items like Prophetic cane and all that jazz so 20 int with your weapons other than the 15 of the Illusionary rod.
So rogues stop rolling on this and making our class look bad
Doocer
Bloodhoof Alliance Rogue
Doocer
Uldum Horde warrior
评论来自
Thottbot
are you serious? mages cannot duel wield, also you can't even have two of these at once, notice the unique tag..
for Hunters...
don't steal this. Most likely you will roll on ravager or something and use that instead, even tho it sux for hunters. Go to the AH and find a two hander of Agi or of the Monkey. Int is good, but its not worth getting this.
for Rogues...
if no one else needs it, you can take it, but i agree with others u want the extra dmg on ambush and SS and all that, you should get a slower dagger. The stats are horrendus, and should be given to someone who needs it.
for Mages...
i am currently a L33 mage playing, and I have decided to skip the staff, and take the dagger and prophetic, beacuse you get much more int. I personally like it beter then the staff, and you should consider that too..
shamans can use the dagger so don't cry about them getting it. overall, Mage/Priest/Warlock/Shaman, and sometimes Druids.
评论来自
Thottbot
I have this on my priest with the SM q reward, Orb of Lorica, largely because the Rod is so damn common although slightly better in terms of stats.
But now it features a +Damage/Healing stat I'm quite content with my choice. It sure was a great surprise when I logged on, now I've just got to check my other chars for stealth item buffs ;D
评论来自
Thottbot
I don't recall this dagger having spell damage. Blizz must have buffed this one since the Illusionary Rod used to be better than this dagger.
Now this dagger is VERY interesting since there aren't many daggers/swords with +spell dmg. Heck, I may even pay SM a visit with my 60 lock just to get this one before I get the shiv.
评论来自
Thottbot
I just had a idiot rogue take this from my mage last night.
His response?
"
Well, it helps my regen
"
WTF? Rogues are so stupid. Just because it's a dagger doesn't mean you have priority over it. It's not rocket science to look at an item and see that it really isn't for your class. It's common sense.
But, common sense seems to be something a lot of WoW players lack...
评论来自
Thottbot
while the +dmg is a nice idea it makes this lvl34 dagger a viable endgame choice pre-raid - or phrased differently it makes other endgame weapons look bad.
just compare it to
Mind Carver
- Prince in DM West
-3dmg
+3spir
still better but not much for a 22lvl difference...
same goes for the dagger from Gandling or the Inventor's Focal in Maraudon (9dmg~1 crit)
评论来自
Thottbot
Whoever said this is item is mediocre must be retarded.
+Spell Damage and decent stats make this viable for a long time provided you have a god offhand.
评论来自
Thottbot
This weapon is NOT for ROUGES its a CASTER dagger! Read the equip!
评论来自
Thottbot
Yea its true this is a spell casting dagger...the int, spirit and spell damage is basically usless to a rogue...however the rogues that are using this have a reason. The damage isnt too bad on it...although...its wrong for a rogue to roll "need" on this if a spell caster rolls need.
It's not a rogue weapon.
*thumbs up*
评论来自
Thottbot
Seriously....
You ppl say you want this as a off hand etc... Answer me a simple question how the !@#$ can you put a dagger that says MAIN HAND in your off hand...
评论来自
Allakhazam
If so many rogues roll on so much, then simply don't bring them. Or talk it over with the group before starting the instance. As simple as that.. at least that's what I do. ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
i'm going to get this for my shammy!
he'll probably become elemental so this in combination with a shield should go really fine!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I understand rogues can farm this about once every 5 or 10 minutes with someone to help them (to reset the instance).
At least they can't sell them at an auction house.
Edited, Thu Jan 6 14:10:13 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Zealot blade IMO is much better for a few reasons
1. Much more dmg and the speed difference isnt too great
2. adds almost the same exact stat ups that this does
3. muhc easier to obtain (if u have been thru SM u know what i mean)
4. Its BOE not BOP
5. It has a 5 lvl lower lvl req
I rest my case... this dagger sux
评论来自
Allakhazam
i ran through sm library 6 times today and this didnt drop...its what i need! but the stupid staff keeps on dropping >< ANGER
评论来自
Allakhazam
get cruel barb is more damage
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well just be happy you can sell it.. not like in eq with some lore items and all no drops :P
1 gold is still pretty nice.. what 1 gold 10 minutes? in one hour you have 6 gold.
13 hours you'd be able to buy amount.. Not bad I say for next to no effort.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this and the prophetic cane, and it is working great for me. But I was wondering why so many people say to use orb of the forgotten seer. The stat bonuses on the cane are great. I know, I'm a noob, and I'm not denying it, but is +12 spell damage really that great or noticeable? (I'm a mage by the way).
评论来自
Allakhazam
i dont think its good for a hunter duel weilding
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, the buffs aren't really handy for a rogue but, like rinada, I really like the dps. At my current lvl (36) I can't really expect an equal dagger with this droprate (such as
the Ziggler
which is harder to get).
As I'm not a fool, I would have pass for this if any mage/priest/warlock in the group had needed it. But I was with paladins and a lvl 30 warlock. He was cool enougth to pass for me (cheerz man).
So, again, even if the buffs aren't for a rogue at all, this dagger is nice until I have
the Coldrage
... At least, I hope I will.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I dont know what people are talking about when they say these arn't good for rogues.. Cause they absulutly rock... I duel wield them and normally get around 15-2 in BG's and I'm not a twink... Who cares if they have healing buffs... The DPS is amazing.
评论来自
Allakhazam
[]there was a rogue in my sm group that said OOH IM GONA NEED!
he won it ROGUES DONT NEED SPELLPOWER! so i kicked him from both guild and party thats what he got for bien a ninja he also needed STAFF OF JORDAN from cath when i was lvl 37 i needed more :'( :'( :'( :'(
评论来自
Allakhazam
It is a faster weapon, it doesn't do great damage but it gets the job done. Not bad for a one hander.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, Im normally pretty passive person but after the lashing I just recieved I have to say something:
This dagger has very nice DPS and hence you be good for a rogue or fury war BUT first and foremost it is a caster weapon!
I - a mage - nearly got kicked for rolling need on this item. The rogue said: come on man the rod is 100s of times better than this! maybe so but if he had a quick look at my gear he would know i am greened out in frozen wrath gears for +dmg with whatever nice blues I can get my hands on (quick kill, lotsa drinking build :P). Are there any half decent staffs at this level which give +dmg? not unless you want a statless green. is there any offhands with +dmg which would compliement this beautifully? Orb of the Forgotten Seer
遗忘先知宝珠
damn easy to get aswell (except nobody likes GY!).
Cheers Blotorch - Firetree
Edited, Mon Jun 19 21:52:36 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this i cant use yet but i have weapon damage on it to give me more damage
评论来自
Allakhazam
I ran SM with some friends and we decided to do library, so we made our way through and this blade dropped and so did doans mantle, so all of a sudden the NE Hunter in our group says he needs it rly bad and rolls need i did 2 and he won it and said "cya suckers im putting this in AH" so i booted him from group then we all laughed :) lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its really about taste, I know. =)
1. I've got the "Illusionary Rod", well ofc I have. ^^
2. But also the "Hypnotic Blade" and "Prophetic Cane".
----------------------
Stats:
1.
Illusionary Rod
:
+15 Intellect
+10 Spirit
+7 Stamina
-or a higher 2h enchantment
or
2.
Hypnotic Blade
and
Prophetic Cane
:
+20 Intellect
+3 Spirit
+5 Stamina
+9 healing/dmg effect
----------------------
So theres no doubt in what solution gives the best stats, but r we forgetting the plus
+9 dmg
?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Heard that in 1.11 this is getting a buff in the form of a +damage component added to it
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is no rogue-blade... More a Mage or Warlock-blade
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was in SM on my Warrior (L35) when this dropped. Everyone else in the group had no interest in it whatsoever, and it did more damage than anything I was using, including a level 30 Green 2-handed sword, so I'm dual-wielding it on my Fury specced Troll warrior with the Meteor Shard from SFK. I build rage so fast with these two I finish fights topped out on Rage even when I'm spamming Heroic Strike and every other strike I've got. I can get 3 Sunders on a target so fast it makes my head spin.
And when I Frenzy? Lawls.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im a human warlock, and I love this thing
I used to have the stave but for some reson I didnt like it, so now I have this blad coupled with
Very good for locks with the dest build, seeing you choose eather the orb for fire or shadow damage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Everyones saying this is a non-rogue blade but put this into perspective, any other "rogue blade" with this DPS is alot harder to obtain because most of them arnt static. I say its fine for a rogue to roll on this dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've ran Library 3 times now. Killed Doan 3 times. Each time he droped Illusionary Rod each time. Going for the fourth xD
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dont wana get all class specific but every1 is doing it =), but shaman weapon ftw beeetches.
Edit: o ya and 1.4 Speed Omfg 1000000 Windfurryprocs a fight, More with flurry.Using this until sword of omen
Edited, Thu Oct 13 23:35:02 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dagger is intended for a caster. I will not attempt to deny that fact. The +Int and +SpellDamage is clearly useless to a rogue. That said, this dagger has more DPS than most daggers or its level. Finding a dagger with better DPS, which is what rogues use, is not an easy feat. When this dropped for my group in SM, my group members ENCOURAGED me to need on it, since it has such good DPS for its level, despite having a priest in the group.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sorry about that post, i had lag issues. If sombody could delete the posts (i dont know how) that would be great. Here is a the proper working link too -
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3764/deadhorde0yw.gif
demonslaying enchant and weilded by Innuk of Gorgonnash. Sorry about last posts, peace!
评论来自
Allakhazam
well.. the NPC buy price was just at 38s... now it's back up over 1g...
Can anyone confirm the price?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this one in my bag , level 32 rogue , sure it , it is a mage,priest,shammie dagger , but it is better than my
剧毒复仇者
, i have the dagger form RFK in offhand
评论来自
Allakhazam
as of yesterdays patch this item has +9 spell damage/healing, which confirmed my suspicion that high level one-hand caster weapons suck. mind carver, a level 57 sword that drops from the last boss in DM west has +8 int, +12 damage/healing. and witchblade, a level 57 dagger that drops off the last boss in scholo has +8 int, +14 damage/healing. 23 levels later and you lose 3 spirit only to get 3-5 more damage/healing on a one hander.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hypnotic Blade now is MAIN HAND (2.0.1).
评论来自
Allakhazam
Now they lowered how much you get from a vendor. As a rogue I can't really say I'm happy about it but if its for the greater good, ok.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Heh, I use this simply because the DPS is so good, however I'm soon gonna replace this... Clearly I don't need the stat boosts but considering before I was using two greens with about ten less DPS this is a godsend.
and whoever hasn't had this drop has bad luck lol... I've had it drop every single time I've been to SM Lib (never had the rod dropped though O_o) The reason I got this over the people who needed it was we ran lib three times and it dropped all three times... Since I was the only other dagger user they were like "OK, roll need" :P
Edited, Thu Apr 13 22:50:02 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
well, I've had this since level 37 or so (51 now) and it's way better than any of the staves I've come across - ZF quest reward staff, Staff of Lore or even Illusionary Rod. As ecco said, this one coupled with a decent offhand gives pretty nice bonuses - had it with Uthek's Finger and Skullspell Orb. The last combo gives me +20 int and +3 spirit, not at all bad - and definitely what I prefer as a healer druid before any of the staves mentioned, since I mostly go for the int/spi combo. this roxx ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is this ok for rogues too? I have 2 of them and I'm a rogue...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I found the best offhand for this is Celestial Orb
苍穹宝珠
this is a mages quest for level 40ish.
So once your 38-39-40, start looking at getting this orb if you have the hypnotic blade.
As far as intellect vs damage gear. Its really how you play the game. If you take on 5 at a time, go intellect.
If you are taking on 1 at a time, go +damage gear.
You will need the int to fight all 5.
Damage on the other hand will bring down 1, if spec'd well, before the target even reaches you. I find this great for the battlegrounds.
评论来自
Aysom
In Season of Discovery, a
法师
can transform the
催眠之刃
into a
纳帕斯之剑
.
To do this, they need to use a
锋刃卷轴
on the
催眠之刃
. This scroll can be randomly deciphered from item level 40 scrolls, such as the
卷轴:UJDUHAZUIIK
.
评论来自
Rubz93
I just saw
邪能裂痕
while questing in Desolace @76, 19 as a Mage (it was also visible to my Priest friend). I checked here in Wowhead and saw that this was added in Season of Discovery and no info regarding it.
Since there is no information on it, I wonder if it is related to Phase 3. I saw that mage's get the rune
怨火之箭
by closing a Fel portal (
关闭邪能传送门
) somehow by using
催眠之刃
as a reagent. (
Only reason I know anything about this Phase 3 rune during Phase 2 is because I saw that Mages can get
锋刃卷轴
that also cast
锋刃注能
on
催眠之刃
as a reagent and transforms it into
纳帕斯之剑
.)
This can all be speculation on my part especially since this "npc"/object is called Fel Tear while mages need to close a Fel Portal. But this is the whole spirit of Season of Discovery, the
discovery
of what is new and unique. I just hope any of my info is useful to anyone in phase 3 discoveries!
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催眠之刃
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物品等级:39
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匕首
26 - 49伤害
速度 1.40
(每秒伤害26.79)
+8 智力
+3精神
耐久: 65 / 65
需要等级 34
装备:
提高所有法术和魔法效果所造成的伤害和治疗效果,最多9点。
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