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Comentado por darkarsenic

Another good rogue ability also used in stunlocks. usually combined with Cheap Shot and Gouge to never get hit. A simple stunlock but short stunlock without any talents would be Cheap Shot, Sinister Strike, and Kidney Shot but as you get more talent points they will differ and become more complex.

Comentado por 8271

This is a great move for rogues who want the casters not to cast, Just get a lot of points then use it then they are stunned and hit them with all you have, I love this attack against attackers in PvP

Comentado por Sebas

Improved kidney shot gives +9% damage and find weaknesses gives +10% damage...19% damage is a niiice damage buff for any type of rogue.

(mix those with opportunity while using mutilate on a poisoned target and you get a +89% damage increase to the default damage of mutilate)

Of course, this is a key skill to be used in stunlocking (beware the cooldown,though)

Comentado por Rarehunter

One of the most annoying abilities in existence. If you find a rogue that has Cheap Shotted you, you know FOR SURE that Kidney Shot is coming, as a normal rogue would do for a stunlock. If you have any stun removing items/abilities, use it when the rogue Kidney Shots you, because then the rogue will have no more stuns and you can counterattack.

Comentado por faia

note: the third effect on this spell is ONLY if you got improved kidney shot!

Comentado por 50546

Healers, THIS is what you are saving your trinket for.

Comentado por 148379

Hello,

If You really want to $%^& someone off try to catch them with insignia on CD (if they use it fun is usually over and you have to fight fair and square :) and use the macro below:

____________________________________________________________________________________________________
/castsequence: Cheap shot, Gouge, Blind, Kidney Shot, Vanish, Sap, Sap, Cheap Shot, Preparation, Blind, Sap, Sap
________________<dps>____DR reset_______<dps>_______DR reset________<dps>____________DR reset________

____________________________________________________________________________________________________
, Ambush/Hemorage, Kidney Shot, Frost grenade (normal if it doesn't share DR with sap), Vanish, Sap, Sap, Cheap
__<some damage>_____<dps>_____5 sec of root/incap__~4 more sec till sap DR reset__________DR reset_____<dp

_________________________
Shot, Kidney Shot. whatever
s>_____<dps>___<see above :>

Taking under consideration the racials ,class, 5% base resist, talents... that combo will more then likely fail at some point, but when it doesn't you just played someone for araund 100 sec xD thats 1 minute 40 sec and soon your blind will be off CD ;)

Of course allot things may go wrong, mage blink (shs and clos will help), locks lolcoil (shs and clos can help...), wars shouts (insignia), priests scream, BM hunter - no chance and other things like war stomp or a hammer of a 5 sec stun, ice block, bubble fct... (shammans are usually screwed unless you started when they were in GW -.-)

You have to be sure that the DR had the 15 sec to reset - it means that your opponet will have many 0.5 - 1 sec "windows" to use the "OH #%#$ button" - try to foresee it ;)

Its unlikely that your opponent is dead after that 100 sec. In the "whatever" part you blow sprint, evasion, clos, and other tools that will assure You will cannibalize his corps or /lol at him (if you have picked wrong char and can be killed ;)

I asumed that:
Sap and Gouge share DR, CH and KS also do share them, and blind is on separate timer from both...

Have fun,
Jonny

P.S. My recommended builds ^^ :

16/3/42
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0053201050000000000003000000000000000000000005002531002301213401351
0/20/41 - imp evasion, sprint
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0000000000000000000003030052020050000000000005002531002301213301351
0/20/41 - riposte
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=0000000000000000000003020550100040000000000005002531002301213301351

Play with deadlines and cheat death or other sub talents to tune it to your gameplay.

Comentado por 71190

This is best used in combination with relentless strikes (11 point talent in Assassination tree) and full energy. When you pop a 5 point kidney shot on someone with 110 energy, thats 6 seconds of full on Hemo's. All in all, it comes down to this.

You get 110 base energy with 4 piece PvP gear, and 60 energy regeneration from the 6 seconds of stun.

(110 + 60) / 35 = 4 (sometimes if timed right, 5) hemos

With this and your normal strikes, it should be able to burst down most opponents and if not completely kill, should at least be able to get the opponent below 25%, putting them under enormous pressure and making it easy for you to bleed kite or just hemo to finish them off.

So the two most common attack choices I use are the following:

1) Cheapshot, Kidney Shot, then get 5 combo points. Wait until you get all your energy back and your Kidney Shot CD to wear off, then Kidney Shot and burst them down.

2) Cheapshot, get 5 combopoints, wait for energy, then kidney and burst.

The first attack plan is all around well planned and can be used against most classes. The second one I usually use against Mages because their Blink gets pesky. I usually wait for their Blink then I Shadowstep and then Kidney Shot them. So your sequence would look like this:

Cheapshot, get 5 combo points, wait for the Blink, Shadowstep, Kidneyshot, burst.

If the Mage decides not to blink, then simply run around them and just beat the crap outta them.

Now on other notes, this plan may get risky against Mortal Strike Warriors because with their Second Wind talent, all your stuns may backfire on you. Now I know this has nothing to do with Kidney Shot, but this is what I use against warriors in general, assuming if you have crippling on offhand weapon:

Premeditation, Shadowstep, Garrote, Shiv, Rupture, PvP Trinket (if he hamstrung you), then sprint away around a corner or something.

This entire post was made based on the build 20/0/41 Shadowstep PvP build. If you are Mutilate specced, you can still pull off most of these combos anyway, just insert Mutilate for Hemo and Sprint for Shadowstep.

Hope this helps.
^.^

Comentado por 174228

one awsome spell used for pvp mostly but for pve two

Comentado por Gadeil

Kind of a dissapointing power, because the mobs don't live long enough to experience what peeing blood feels like.

Remember kids, Never punch someone in the kidney IRL :|

Comentado por Deivijs

A truly wonderful ability. Been stun locking mobs to death for 3 levels already, it just doesn't get old :)

Comentado por 170073

Nothing quite like poking someone with sharp things while they are unable to do anything about it.

Comentado por Anarchy

Patch 3.0.8 - This ability now has diminishing returns against all other stuns.

Comentado por 349485

So I just realized that the icon is a fist punching almost like an uppercut, but low enough to hit the kidneys.

I really really thought the icon was a kidney. I have been playing this game since the November it came out.

Comentado por 441563

just wondering if anyone knows a macro for a low level rogue to equip your dagger on your main hain, use this then have backstab ready and put your regualr weapon back on after.

If anyone knew how to do that, it'd be awesome.

Comentado por specterk

Switching weapons isn't restricted BY the global cooldown, but whenever you do switch it will cause your global cooldown to activate for your other abilities, so you can do it but you should try to always use an ability *before* your weapon switch, or you'll waste 1 second of combat waiting for your GCD.
Note that I wouldn't recommend using Backstab after a KS, as you'd be better served usually by using a more energy-efficient ability to build combo points while your target is stunned. However, switching to a dagger to backstab--and then back to original MH--after using Gouge is very handy.

/cast Kidney Shot
/equipslot 16 YourDaggerNameHere
/cast Backstab
/equipslot 16 YourOriginalMainHandNameHere

NOTES:
*YourDaggerNameHere, YourOriginalMainHandNameHere: position the cursor at this point in your macro and Shift+left-click on the weapon you want to add, and it will automatically enter the correct item name, preventing possible spelling errors.

this macro has the following functionality:

It will ALWAYS:
1) cast Kidney Shot if it is not cooling down
2) cast Backstab if you have a dagger equipped and Kidney Shot is not cooling down

If you hold Shift while activating it:
1) will also switch your mainhand weapon (non-dagger) to your dagger of choice if you do not currently have a dagger there, even if neither Kidney Shot nor Backstab have been used.
2) will also switch your mainhand weapon (if dagger) to your mainhand weapon of choice

IMPORTANT: you have to press this macro twice to achieve the functionality you want. Holding Shift and pressing once will cast Kidney shot and equip your dagger; 1 second later you can hold Shift and press it again to cast Backstab and automatically re-equip your original mainhand, or leave out Shift if you want to Backstab more than once or otherwise don't want to switch your dagger back out.

If you want to try the Gouge tactic I mentioned, just change "Kidney Shot" to "Gouge". Happy hunting.

Comentado por 116883

6 seconds duration (at 5cp) and 20 seconds cooldown.
that means 6/20 = 30% uptime of stun from this ability alone, if you can build up another 5cp in the remaining 19 seconds. which you can.

easy to understand why rogues love this.
a stunned opponent is under your control, and control is what makes good rogues win pvp fights.

Comentado por Maybelline

So I was questing in Zul'Drak the other night, killing Frozen Earth elementals and sealing Elemental Rifts. Not for the first time I noticed that Kidney Shot worked really well on both - and not for the first time I was amazed by the rogue's ability to find kidneys in even the most unlikely places/life forms. Master of Anatomy my behind!

Comentado por shadowstevens

Does KS get affected by the Subtlety mastery rating (Executioner)? It says on the tooltip that the mastery rating "increases the damage done by your finishing moves, and the effectiveness of your Slice and Dice". KS isn't a direct damage finishing move, so I would presume it doesn't get affected at all?

Comentado por Ganbantein

With a combat rogue's Revealing Strikes, a 5 combo point Kidney Shot can stun the target up to 8+ seconds (without DR or reduced stun duration effects)
this is great in PvP so that when you get a opponent in a bad situation,(no cooldowns or trinkets) you can use this with Adrenaline Rush to deal massive amounts of damage

Comentado por Thottbot

It takes me about 15 seconds to build up 5 combo points, at 20 seconds, however, I'm waiting around 5 seconds for this to cool. At about 15 DPS (against level 30 mobs) thats 75 damage to me. Players at my level do about 30 DPS for 150 damage total. Thats more than 10% of my HP. The extra 5 seconds is good as it is. If, as you suggest, they make it stun longer, you'd be able to get off two backstabs in one stun. (100energy - 25 -60 = 5 energy left + 5 second stun * 10 energy/sec = 55 energy, 5 short of the second backstab. I think its acutally a bit less than 10 energy/sec but you're still only one tick away from a second backstab at 7 e/s)

Comentado por Thottbot

the guy above is right you all fail to realize you can attk after using this soo......
USE YOUR GOD GIVEN ROGUE ABILITIES AND STUN LOCK EM'!

dudes(and dudets) just cheap shot (+2 combo points),ss(+1 point),gouge em' to either heal or wait for your energy to gain(+1 point), then unleash this beauty and BAM! thats another 4 sec you can rain hell on em and should you still need more time just use blind :)

be a rogue be cheap its what you were meant to be stun stun and guess what STUN! any shot you can take w/o getting hit back you should take.

Comentado por Thottbot

Just to clarify something the last poster said - Kidney Shot, along with Cheap Shot, are useless against decent Mages - they can Blink out of stuns. Gouge however isn't a stun, so they can't blink out of that.

So against a Mage don't bother using CS or KS (unless they are totally out of mana or you just saw them use Blink), just Ambush instead and go from there.

Comentado por Thottbot

after losing to the horde again i entered another bg to find that a twinked orc rogue had somehow gained level 30 but was still bging..he kept using this against me i was dead b4 i got a chance to ss him,

how did he get in the bg?

Comentado por Thottbot

If you want to watch stunlock in action go 2 http://www.roguespot.com and go 2 rogue videos on the left mid section and then copy paste Ruler PK the first 1 download and enjoy the action

Comentado por Thottbot

This skill can be pretty awesome. Stack 5 combo points (easy with CS + Initiative and 2xSS), wait for full energy, KS, get behind them and Backstab away! Using Swifthisle Tea you can get up to 3 Backstabs before KS expires and if you have Improved Backstab that means that the battle is pretty much over for your unfortunate target.

Comentado por Thottbot

why would this move require a melee weapon? it doesnt matter really, it just that logically it shouldnt

Comentado por Thottbot

ok.. must confess i think kidney shot is a bit uber..

but i REALY think it sucks when i use it and it misses and the colldown is still triggered

did blizzard put this in on purpuse?

/greven

Comentado por Thottbot

Ok, I've had a friend show me how to duel a proper Human Mage. By proper, I mean that they can play their class well. Usually, a proper mage ( on the Bloodhoof server) would use Perception, and the very second they hear the Steath sound, they use an AoE and blink. The AoE puts you out of stealth and (if the mage used frost nova) your stuck in place, so the mage (if they are fire specced) can use pyroblast, or any other mage can use anotherspell.. anyhow.. He showed me that if you wait for about 5 seconds AFTER the duel has started, in a spot approx. 15 yards in front of the mage, you throw a Distraction IN FRONT of the mage, the mage will freak, and (out of nervous reaction) will use blink. BAM, he's right in front/behind you, just use Cheap Shot, He can't blink out of it, mind you, so he'll have to wait, then the second that CS stops, hit them with KS, and BAM, your "Good Mage" is now about 3/4 dead if you got some good crits. then the rest: you gouge, wait for KS to cooloff, then you SS spam x2, The mage SHOULD be dead, if not, then your prolly gonna die, unless you can pack in a sprint, right into the mage and gouge them, and then use KS and KILL@!

If your a rogue, and you try this, PLZ send me an e-mail telling me of what you think of the stragety.
father_gamer@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance if you really liked this strategy

Comentado por Thottbot

Best finishing move ever!
i usually open up with a CS, which has a 75% chance of having an additional combo point due to the initiative talent. after that hit them with a ghostly or sinister strike, which will put you out of energy and give you 4 combo points. by the time the cheap shot wears off you'll have gained 40 energy back, not quite enough to do the ideal thing in the situation, gouge, so u can either hit them with another sinister strike or wait another 2 seconds for it. gouge is handy because it gives u a chance to recover some energy and pop some cooldowns, blade fury and adrenaline rush being the handiest, then before the gouge goes u slap em with the kidney shot and start spanking them hard and fast. Another thing i like to throw into this mix is mace specialization and slice and dice, which will give you plenty of hits to land 1 or 2 stuns.

Comentado por Thottbot

Am i the only one having a problem with rogues its odd you never see nerf rogues anywhere it must be me only but that sounds crazy since every PvP / Duel encounter i have with a rogue this is how fight goes

1. Sap, Ambush -50% my hp, gouge, backstab, kidney shot, Dead
2. Sap, cheap shot, gouge, backstab, kidney shot, Dead
3. sap, Cheap shot, ambush, blind (then he re hides, another ambush, Dead

I know im not the only one with this problem WTF is with the 100 sec stun in a fight then death without touching the rogue once im not one to *!@#$ about a class hell i made a rogue since they kick so much ass but its so easy to play class (no offense but it is) it bores me i got him to lvl 42

This seems like the most used stun on me in duels just making a rant.

Comentado por Thottbot

I like CS->Backstab->SS->(gouge if they heal)->SS->KS. That helps alot to me. PS when they are in KS you can still attack them unlike Gouge, it interrupts if you do.

Comentado por Thottbot

I love that spell it so usefull.Lot of people get pissd about it, good in BG specally in WSG sesy way to kill fc if u use it. Enjoy thr rogue awsomeness!

Comentado por Thottbot

wotf, clos - gg nublock

Comentado por Thottbot

I love the realism on how you need a melee weapon to punch someone in the kidney.

Comentado por Thottbot

I do 119.3 DPS, 6 seconds of Kidney shot is 715.8 Damage in total.

I am a 62 Rogue, with 1003 Attack Power. Kidney shot is useful in a tough situtation, but I am assassin, so I have a couple of choices when I am near death.

Comentado por Thottbot

should name this secondary cheapass shot

Comentado por Allakhazam

gouge= 4sec stun(5.5 with talent)-but any damage caused will revive the target
kidney shot max 6 sec stun-feel free to hurt the target..

Comentado por Allakhazam

Is it just me or is this a waste. Cause gouge is practically the same....isn't it? Its jsut a waste of combo points that u could use for eviscerate or rupture or something more useful.

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