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Commentaire de Gary13579

A new ability for Herbalism. Looks like it will be pretty useful as it is instant cast, zero mana cost, but I'm not yet sure if it scales with +healing (can't check that on a Rogue :P).

Commentaire de Kraki

No it doesn't seem to scale with healing.

Commentaire de noherczeg

I don't know the health points of the wotlk end-game characters, but this seems a bit weak according to what do the other gatherer profed players get.

Maybe with a 2 min. cooldown this could be usefull... we'll see.

Commentaire de 12010

Another weakness to this spell is that it is able to be dispelled. Would be decent for grinding or Arenas, but seems very situational. Any addition to a straight gathering profession is an added bonus though.

Commentaire de Thander

Everyone says this doesn't scale as well as the others but I'm very happy as a warrior to have a small HoT every 5 minutes. For a healing class, it's maybe not so good but some classes can really use it.

Commentaire de 145947

Currently (as of 08/10/08) when you use this spell you gain one herbalism level skill point. Found it by accident while leveling herbalism on my death knight.

Commentaire de Biglove

I feel kinda left out, seeing as Mining gets a stamina boost and Skinning gets a crit boost, both of which are passive and needed by everyone. This, however, is situational and...really...quite weak compared to the Mining and Skinning ones.
However, if this spell could scale, say, with stamina (something like "Heal a % of health every X sec for Y sec) and the cooldown lowered then it would be noice.

(Submition code for this post was "dodik" :D)

Commentaire de Nulgar

Someone please tell me that this spell is usable in forms.

Commentaire de 161863

You guys are really crying about a usable ability rather than a passive? Sure, it might not be as good as the Skinning or Mining proffesion ability, but we kind've deserve it. I mean, when I mine Khorium I dont get 30 health/5 seconds. And Eternium Ore doesn't give me a Last Stand effect, or 2 minute Fiery. You guys don't know what you have right now. Skinning doesn't give a buff either, if I skinned a Clefthoof and looted the leather, I don't get +50 to X stat.

Commentaire de 38696

Toughness gives 35 stamina, if this ability ticks one of its five ticks you've all ready healed more health than toughness gives. Yes, maybe the stamina is slightly better against burst, but this ability can be used more than once and can help out a teammate.

Commentaire de MontydaGnome

Quick question. Has any warlock tested to see if this heal is affected by the 20% (26% talented) additional healing that the new demon armor/old fel armor has? That would actually be a really decent free HoT.

Commentaire de 191205

Any druid could tell us if this works when you are shapeshifted ?

Commentaire de 161863

Alchemy is a universal proffesion, you can share everything but Mad Alchemist's potions and the Alchemy stones. You can share your entire proffesion. Blacksmiths and Miners can only share it to specific groups.
Blacksmiths: Mail-Plate.
Leatherworkers: Leather-Mail.
Whos to say you can't share a simple ability, and we get a passive? Its not like we can give a party/raid member the Stamina or Crit bonus
Alchemists bring potions and cauldrons to the raid, Blacksmiths and Leatherworkers bring gear. Gear gets replaced

Commentaire de MonkeyPower

Hmm think this in arena 2v2 on rogue: Blind, this, bandage, vanish o.o

Commentaire de Icecoldcoke

This is the spell you gain when you reach 450 herbalism.

You have Rank 5 when you're at 375 herbalism.

Commentaire de 144350

Hmm... Strange, I think wowhead has messed things up since it say it doesn't have cooldown in the spell detail but a long 5 minutes global cooldown...

Cooldown: n/a

Global cooldown: 5 minutes

The spell tool tip is correct tough.

But when it comes to power i actually think this spell can be very effective sometimes for a restoration shaman.
Since they don't have any healing over time spell (except a proc from earthliving weapon) and that would be very
nice to have with spirit link so you don't have to focus to heal your shelf as much.

With spirit link in a normal instance, grinding and maybe heroics you could possibly out heal the damage you take
your shelf and don't have to check your own health for 15 seconds but the cooldown might be a little too high...
I think 3minutes would make the deal (keep it up 1/12'th of the time instead of 1/20'th).

Don't blame me since I'm not an expert but its just my thoughts...

Commentaire de SamusAran

I don't know if its a bug, but I get skill points from casting this towards my herbalism.

Commentaire de Icecoldcoke

Cooldown lowered to 3minutes in build 8820.

Commentaire de Forbin

Unlike Don des naaru, you can cast this in Forme d'Ombre. I imagine it might stay this way, since it is nature school and not holy.

Commentaire de Biglove

Renamed and tooltip changed. Effect is the same as before.

Old name (Wild Growth) went to the druid resto skill Flourish.

Commentaire de Crimsonlord

!@#$ a Gnome that can heal! Nerf :(

Commentaire de 122930

Seems like it'd be nice for rogues in 2v2s as they can vanish and use it in stealth (and bandage if they can get into a decent spot to hide) giving them nearly 7k of healing. Still on the fence if this or the 50 stam from Mining would be better.

Commentaire de Visindyr

Can this be used in arenas?

Commentaire de Teke

Wonder if this generates threat?

Commentaire de Mongatsumi

I'm going to assume this is usable in Shadowform since it is classed as a nature spell. It'll be nice to be able to heal other than with bandages.

Just confirmed it on live realms. Does work with Shadowform!

Commentaire de 67935

Does it trigger a GCD?

Commentaire de 163658

Combined with the draenei's "Gift of the Naaru", this spell can really make you live longer.

Commentaire de 57630

I think its worth mentioning that this ability doesn't seem to spark GCD which means you can macro it with anything else like a trinket.

Commentaire de Aulus

Here are the effects of all the passive gathering buffs at level 80:

Herbalism
Mining
Skinning

Passive buffs for gathering professions, so that people might actually use the gathering profession associated with their craft. Precisely what gathering professions needed.

In Wrath, both crit and health are going to be of use to practically everyone, in PvE and PvP, and whatever bonus you get means you can sway your gear emphasis slightly to make up for what you lost in the others, so it's a win-win any way one looks at it.

Commentaire de 227168

Very useful for balance druids cause they don't have to switch to human form.

Commentaire de 236052

As of the current PTR patch (3.0.3), the level requirements required to train higher-tier gathering skills have been removed. As such, the level 80 gathering profession bonuses - including Lifeblood - will be available to twinks in any bracket.

As a Paladin healer in the 59 bracket, Herbalism has replaced Enchanting as the second profession of choice - a 2000 health over 5 second heal (on a 3 minute cooldown) beating out +8 all stats from rings, in my opinion.

Quick clarification on this ability: is this usable while silenced?

As it belongs to the Nature school, it will not be locked out if your non-Nature spell is interrupted (wonderful for Paladin and Priest healers). I'm more curious about silence effects like that belonging to Shadow Priests.

Commentaire de 141882

Usable while silenced. Didn't check, but don't think it was locked out either.

EDIT: It IS spell locked.

EDIT 2: Does anyone want to explain why I'm being downrated for this? I was able to use it under a mob's silence, and it is locked out by spell school.

Commentaire de Buffalo

Just tested it, you can use this healing spell while in stealth, it won't break stealth. So Clos, vanish, and put a lifeblood on yourself when you are about to die.

Commentaire de 184249

All ranks proc Omen of Clarity

Commentaire de 98777

With gathering professions now comes new passive and cast abilities. Herbalism now gives you the ability "Lifeblood". With each rank up in Herbalism, you obtain a new rank in this skill.
Lifeblood is a very useful skill that you can cast. This is a self only heal, which is instant. Upon casting this, flowers will sprout around your character and you will be healed over time. The amount in which you are healed is increased with your skill/rank level.

Here are the different ranks for this ability in order of ranks and herbalism skill:
(mouse over the link to view the information for the rank)

75 - 149 (Apprentice):
Lifeblood (Rank 1)

150 - 224 (Journeyman):
Lifeblood (Rank 2)

225 - 299 (Expert):
Lifeblood (Rank 3)

300 - 374 (Artisan):
Lifeblood (Rank 4)

375 - 449 (Master):
Lifeblood (Rank 5)

450+ (Grand Master)
Lifeblood (Rank 6)

Happy Flower Picking! :)
(Edit: Corrected skill level vs rank, thanks!)

Commentaire de 147759

Tested it: this ability does not benefit from +healing at all, so also not from Dampen Magic or Amplify Magic etc. But it does work with Quick Recovery (ticking for 288 at 375 herbalism). Haven't been able to test it with Demon Armor but because of the wording I assume it works the same way.

Been loving this ability on my mage regardless. It heals for 300 hp at 75 herbalism, and few (if not none) of the classes at level 15 with average gear will have more than 300 hp, so it's almost like a free Lay on Hands every 3 minutes =)

Commentaire de 241878

Do any beta testers know if this spell is affected by the talent Vampiric Blood, in the Blood tree for Death Knights?

If so, this will make Blood DK's even more viable in PvP/Arena's.

-Qorpse

Commentaire de Fizzles

I know it's possible to get 450 Mining at level 1 (just smelt ore until 450) but think it's possible to get 450 herbalism before level 19?
The lower the level, the better, as I'll need time for quests.
I think I can use a Warlock for summoning, with enough persuasion.

Commentaire de 144140

Actually scales somewhat for prot paladins, with both avenging wrath and improved devotion aura
with both of these up the healing is increased to 2542~ with 508/509 ticks.

Commentaire de xaniared

It is the only way (except bandages) the mages can heal themselfs

Commentaire de Misuteri

You cannot take mining to 450 by smelting alone.

There is a dead zone from 290-300 where smelting Thorium turns grey and you must actually go out and mine.

This happens again from 315-325 with Fel Iron since you can't smelt Adamantite until 325.

There is another from 340-350 where the same thing occurs, this time with Eternium not being trainable until 350.

I don't know what the dead zones are from 375-450 but I assume there is going to be a minimum of two. As OP as these buffs may seem? They're very difficult to get if you're trying to do it on a twink.

Commentaire de Talimar

does this work while silenced?

Commentaire de yuru

Using Lifeblood does not break stealth or prowl when used, but the ability causes flowers to grow around the feet of the character. This may alert enemies to your presence.

Lifeblood cannot be dispelled by any means.
Can be used in shapeshift

Commentaire de 97692

Death Knights should be aware that this is improved by Vampiric Blood (as if the Blood tree needed more heals).

Commentaire de daurenr

it is affected by talents. at least on my shammy, Rank 5 heals a lil more than it supposed to heal.
After respeccing, I noticed that Purification talents affects it. Healing increased from 240 per second to 264 per sec (rank 5 i remind).

Commentaire de Kaynos

Glad my warrior is an herbalist, add this to Enraged Regenation i have 2 heals now !

Commentaire de 189774

Was very funny see a Death Knight (death, corruption, frost) using lifeblood, maybe anti-RP. ¿Flowers growing up in Unholy Ground? ¿Lifeblood or "deathblood"?

Commentaire de 255549

This spell's healing can be buffed by the Shammy talent Purification,causing it to actually heal 440 per second instead of 400.

Commentaire de 158519

I have 18k hps at level 71, when in bear dps gear, + FR glyph (20% more healing) it heals for 7700 hps, i saw it crit for 1000+
+tanking gear, 26k hp (only self buffed), it heals 9100
Survival Instincts
Frenzied Regeneration
Plus 2000 Lifeblood Healing
thats about 11,000 healing in bear form

thats not counting Barkskin ( All damage taken is reduced by 20% )
and drinking a heal pot.

I havn't gotten to 80 level but have seen bear tank with 36k health unbuffed

thats about 52k buffed with Survival Instincts]

thats about 18k heal overtime with Lifeblood + Frenzied Regeneration ,if my math is right

can any class beat this?

Druides maybe the best tanks...only time will tell

Commentaire de 177933

IMO this spell is very weak compaired to bonuses of other professions. Yes its a free heal, but its not very strong nor useful. They should really change it to something more beneficial to players, like AP and SP or extra stats.

Commentaire de 291505

Great for mages. It rescues me every time xD

Commentaire de BrianG

I have this on my Druid and when iam in cat form it healed me more thx to talent Nurturing Instinct

Commentaire de MooMan65

As of the latest v3.0.8 PTR build (9438), this spell now activates the Global Cooldown. I used to have it in a macro with my Life Tap to heal up the health damage, but now it refuses to cast them both together.

Commentaire de n4rt0n

It's very useful to all classes since it's "extra" health over 5 seconds (every 1 second).

Rogues and Druids may take advantage of this spell cause it doesn't break stealth (making it even very useful to twinks with high rank herbalism)

Commentaire de 191589

If you unlearn herbalism do you get to keep this?

Commentaire de 137927

Also gets the 20% healing buff from Demon Armor if you're a lock.

Commentaire de 303622

How does the Lifeblood work exactly?
for rank 1 they mention 300 for 5 secs. meaning every sec lifeblood heal u for 300 amounting to 1500 or for the whole 5 sec, they only heal u for 300 in total?

Commentaire de 139657

Post-Patch 3.0.8 this spell now runs on the GCD. :(

Commentaire de 107213

they screw it, now u cant get life blood rank 5 unless your lvl 55 or above. thats right blizzard put a level restriction on herbalisim so once you go to the trainer in northrend it tell you no cause u dont have the level required. i wonder whats gonna happen to all the people that already have it and are not lvl 55?

Commentaire de 295489

This ability is NOT affected by:
Dampen Magic
or
Amplify Magic

Commentaire de 175470

As of patch 3.0.8 this spell now has a GCD and cannot be macro'ed with any other spells. Also the HoT DOES NOT stack with Gift of the Naaru... thus making my macro 100% worthless. Also resulting in Lifeblood not being worth a spot on the bar. Thanks Blizzard.

Commentaire de Hurono

Herbalism got a buff, Herbalism lost a buff. Next time Blizz don't hang carrots instead of lies.

Commentaire de swell

Scales with healing as of 2/15/09

Commentaire de 257415

"swell" mentioned that this scales with healing as of 2/15/09. I'm not sure about this but I know that I am a resto shaman with the highest rank of this spell.

It says it heals for 2000 over five seconds by mine heals for 2200 over five seconds.

I have the resto talent "Purification" which at it's 5th rank, Increases the effectiveness of your healing spells by 10%.

Conclusion, this does not benefit from spellpower, but it does benefit from abilities that gives you additional healing on a percentage base, as with Purification.

Commentaire de 146819

Little flowers spawn at your feet while the buff's ticking.

Looks really weird when they're spawning in a Death Knight's footsteps.

Commentaire de 317173

Really, REALLY needs to be taken off of the GCD. This is Herbalism's only buff, why make it terrible?

Commentaire de mjblink

kind of lame that you can't cast on lower level targets and have the heal scale down to the max for their level. would help when having to heal a lowbie you're running thru an instance : /

Commentaire de ollan1

When raiding as a mage, this is extremely usefull.

Especially on fights where the healers must keep watch on the tanks alot.

Commentaire de Serai

seems in 3.2 this will be removed from the global cooldown, scale with max hp and get a buff to base healing

that would all in all make this a very powerfull pvp or tanking tool
just macro it to another cooldown like last stand

Commentaire de Arkuray

From a blue post by Bornakk

Herbalism

Increased healing from Lifeblood (Rank 6)
Lifeblood now scales slightly with maximum health
Lifeblood no longer affected by global cooldown

Commentaire de 401813

Quick question:

a) Is Lifeblood affected / buffed by a Blood DK's Vampiric Blood spell (+35% heals)?

b) What about the +10% from 2/2 Improved Blood Presence ?

- Thanks

Commentaire de Shockeru

Benefits from the 20% increased healing from Demon Armor

Commentaire de 341607

My herbalism isn't that high yet so I'm only on rank 3 and at level 80 900 over 5 seconds is completely useless haha. Not sure how much of a difference 2000 over 5 will make but I'm more than happy with my Enraged Regeneration. :)

Commentaire de 110479

This is a great buff for twinks, esp in the lower brackets. I had 450 herbalism (Rank 6 Lifeblood) on a lvl 19 priest. However, this was nerfed in 3.1 and completely bugged in the process.

If I try to use Rank 6, the game reports "Target is too High Level" (yes, "too high" level).

If I try to access Rank 3 (the highest allowable rank for level 19 characters) the game doesn't allow it ('show all spell ranks' option in the spellbook doesn't show lower ranks; /cast Lifeblood(Rank 3) similarly fails).

Blizzard has, as usual, just ignored the issue.

Commentaire de 138711

i wanted to test to see how well it scales with HP. As an ele shaman with 18.5k hp, Lifeblood healed me for about 3900 give or take about 5. So it healed me for about 21% of my total HP. Im sure formula for the scaling is much more complicated... but it puts you in the ballpark for the amount healed on a decently geared caster. This is a significant buff over the basic 2k that it heals pre-3.2. A very welcome buff.

Commentaire de kgurnhill

On my pally, this heals for 441 per tick! :D
I have the talent that increases Healing Done and Taken by 5% (at rank 5).
Leading me to belive this ability IS affected by talents etc! :)

Lifeblood has saved my skin loadsa times!
Dont knock this ability its awesome! :)

Edit 1: It is NOT affected by bonus healing, just talents
Edit 2: a spelling mistake

Commentaire de 414642

As a leveling feral druid, I love Lifeblood! I rarely have to shift out of cat form any more, the 3 minute cooldown is just the right length of time to take damage, heal, then carry on. A great and unexpected bonus to Herbalism.

Edit - Now, at level 80 combined with Survival Instincts and a health trinket this is wonderful for surviving in PVP. Fall out of a siege vehicle, shift to cat and pop all three, have some fun then shift to bear, pop Frenzied Regeneration and away you go.

Commentaire de 154538

With the recent removal of the GCD aspect of this skill, Draenei priests will be able to make a quite powerful HoT macro that will put up 3 hots for only 1 GCD:

/cast Gift of the Naaru(Racial)
/cast Lifeblood(Rank 6)
/cast Renew(Rank 14)

With this simple macro you effectively throw 3 hots on a target for the GCD and mana cost of one spell. I for one, am quite excited about this change; this macro will surely help out during a pinch. :)

Commentaire de mattroszel

this ability can proc omen of clarity

Commentaire de Gallim

did Nurturing Instinct affect lifeblood?

Commentaire de frmorrison

Lifebloom is affected by talents like any other healing spell, so it is affect by talents like Divinity (5% more), Nurturing Instinct (10% more), and Vampric Blood (35% more).

In addition, this scales with health. With around 40,000 health, this healed for 4,490 (compared to 3600 base).

Commentaire de 277523

No it doesn't... But they just up'd the amount of healing in the last patch.

Aside from that... It stacks with shaman's racial :)
Lots of healing.

Commentaire de 422867

Can someone tell me what increases the healing you get from this (other than spell power and abilities like Demon Armor, etc.) because on my level 17 warrior it is healing me for 61-62 per tick instead of 60 and I have no spell power on any of my gear and no +healing through talents, is it slightly affected by attack power or something?

Please help!

Commentaire de n4rt0n

if your Nature school is interrupted (counter-spell / kick / etc) it'll lock also Lifeblood.

Commentaire de 340239

If you, like me, took Herbalism just for the heal and own one of the Battlemaster trinkets, the pair are amazing to macro together. But just a note, because Lifeblood scales with maximum health, it's a great idea to put the Battlemaster trinket above the Lifeblood inside the macro. With it there, you never forget to use it when you need it, and you get the most out of it's use. The macro I use is simple:

#showtooltip Lifeblood
/use Battlemaster's Bravery (replace with your Battlemaster trinket of choice)
/cast Lifeblood

Commentaire de Wildhorn

Since 3.2, this ability scale with maximum hp. It will add 1.6% of your maximum hp to the 3600 base hp it gives.

20k hp > +320 hp for a total of 3920 heal
25k hp > +400 hp for a total of 4000 heal
30k hp > +480 hp for a total of 4080 heal
35k hp > +560 hp for a total of 4160 heal
40k hp > +640 hp for a total of 4240 heal

So the "slightly" is not "slightly" used here. (lol)

Extra notes:
- It doesnt break stealth/prowl/shadowmeld (and wont proc the flowers if you are)
- It doesnt break form (even flying form)
- It doesnt proc global cooldown.
- It scales with talents that increase healing you take

Commentaire de 226137

Just reached 450 Herbalism at level 66. Mana Thistle gave me a skill up all the way to 450 and only failed 5 times. The Gordunni Ogre area behind Aldor Rise seemed to have two guaranteed thistles every re-spawn and trade chat, (along with rested experience) is only a 5 second flight away. I needed to kill the occasional level 71, 72 ogre to get the herbs.

Commentaire de 391766

As of September 17, 2009 it is affected by the GCD and it triggers the GCD. I dont know if this is a bug or intended, but it &*!@es me off.

As a draenei warrior I was thinking on making an "oh shi" button...

#showtooltip Gift of the Naaru
/cast Gift of the Naaru
/cast Enraged Regeneration
/cast Lifeblood

Saddly it doesnt work...

edit: the first ranks trigger and are affected by the GCD. Macro works now that I got rank 5.

Commentaire de 251588

So, a question for Lifeblood - can you get the rank 6 at any level, as long as you max the skill?

Commentaire de 182385

just an fyi, works with a shadowpriests's Dispersion

Commentaire de brillenschuss

This absolutely rocks! It heals my pvp warlock for almost 5000 hitpoints because it is amplified by Demon Armor. 5000 extra hitpoints in Arena battles makes this my favourite profession for pvp (at least for warlocks).

Commentaire de bdeboare

Lifeblood now heals 1600 more (3600) than it used to (2000) pre 3.3.0. It's now also affected by the maximum health you have. I for one, am loving this :)

Commentaire de BoomkinKotaro

Paladins may use this with Avenging Wrath for a large boost to the heal.

I noticed mine would normally tick for 800ish, then close to a 1k tick with AW.

Commentaire de 439521

Ice block does not interrupt this spell.

Commentaire de 475776

The term "slightly" also scales directly with maximum hitpoints. This spell heals a character with 20k hp for 19.6% of their maximum health, while only healing a character with 40k hp for 10.6% of their maximum health. The phrase "less is more" comes to mind.

Commentaire de 363646

Can Anyone tell me what " increased by maximum Health" means?
Does this mean, that when you gain more health by collecting stamina the spell gets stronger?

Commentaire de 256168

Found this great for a moonkin, esp in the last few levels of Northrend. Don't let the 3min cooldown fool you; it actually is up a lot of the time. I like to use it a lot when pulling mobs:

Starfall > Barkskin > Lifeblood > Hurrricane

Commentaire de Timmeh

Just did a little testing on the scalability side of things. Here's what I discovered at various health levels (just did this quickly, so didn't get a chance to grab buffs, will test it out with kings and fort next raid):

~20k HP: 793 / tick, 3965 total
~41k HP: 854 / tick, 4270 total
~86k HP: 994 / tick, 4970 total

So yeah, does very, very badly on the scalability side of things. If you're considering picking this up as a tanking cooldown... don't.

Commentaire de Baronfel181st

As a Forsaken warlock, I must say that flowers sprouting up around my rotting, demonic feet does not quite add up.

Which makes it all the more awesome.

Commentaire de 524313

Question :

1) So just to make sure I understand, does the Healing effect of Life Blood scale with Guardian's Alchemist Stone ?

2) Useful when used with the Trinket for Tanking Druid ? Yes / No ?

Commentaire de 485166

Does anybody know how much your health increases the effect by? At the moment with almost 10k health, lifeblood heals for 3754 over 5 seconds.

Commentaire de 469367

Could this spell be a reference to Rush's 2112?

Commentaire de Pomodorosan

Here, I made this chart which includes ALL the professions, concerning spell power:

Alch: +47 SP (Mixology gives an extra 47 SP on Flask of the Frost Wyrm.)
BS: +46 SP (Two extra sockets, both with +23 SP.)
Ench: +46 SP (+23 SP to rings.)
Eng: +45 Haste, -1 SP (+27 SP replaces +23 Haste on cloak, +68 passive haste replaces +28 SP.)
Herb: Heal over Time (Heals for 3600, affected by maximum health.)
Inscription: +46 SP (+70 SP, +15 Crit, instead of +24 SP, +15 Crit.)
JC: +48 SP (Three +39 SP in place of three +23 SP.)
LW: +46 SP (+76 SP instead of +30 SP.)
Mining: +60 Stam (Toughness.)
Skinning: +40 Crit (Master of Anatomy.)
Tailor: -23 Haste, +50-60 SP (Roughly +50-60 passive SP replaces +23 Haste.)

Commentaire de Onijitsu

I swear, Blizzard must have made a change to the Lifeblood heal mechanic with a recent patch. While impaled on Marrowgar's spikes, or in some other compromising situation where I couldn't otherwise heal, I was at least able to activate Lifeblood on myself.

Now? I can't use it, unless I'm able to freely cast other spells. And since I'm a healer, this profession-granted ability just became a whole lot less useful.

Commentaire de Tenjen

In cata this ability will provide haste.

For 20 seconds.

On the PTR it provides 240 haste.

Commentaire de elitearthas

it does heal... but how much?

Commentaire de Aesica

It seems that, as of 4.0.x, this ability has been changed from being a small, emergency self-heal to a haste trinket. Well, there's still healing, but it's practically nonexistent now. Anyway, here's the facts I've gathered:

The heal is now instantly applied upon using Lifeblood (there is no more over-time healing for the effect's duration) and seems to restore roughly 1k. (If yours is doing more or less, there might be something else affecting it--please share!)
This heal can crit.
Activating Lifeblood fires off the 20 second cooldown that all DPS trinkets share. (You can't use it, then immediately activate any of the 38758375 trinkets that "increase your ____ by X for Y seconds")
It is still off the global cooldown, so this change makes it an excellent candidate to macro under more interesting abilities.

While clearly a buff for pve, I can't say whether this should be considered a buff or nerf for pvp. I guess it depends on what you play.

Edit: Fixed fail formatting. :(

Commentaire de 175027

As of 4.0.1, I've gotten heals as low as 450, and as high as 1100. It has the possibility of critting.

Commentaire de 573971

There goes my Vampiric Blood + Lifeblood Macro.

Commentaire de Malfious

It shares a cooldown with On Use trinkets.

Commentaire de savagekrosa

As of 4.0 lifeblood grants haste rating as well

So now it seems dps can be interested in taking herbalism!

Commentaire de pekti

While the haste buff is indeed nice, the near loss of the healing mechanic is sad.

As of level 59, this heals one time for 232, with 70 haste rating. The tooltip now reads, "instantly healing minor wounds." Guess it can't get much more minor than that :P

Commentaire de 60610

after patch 4.0... heals you for 4% of your total health... (wildly insiginifcant :s )

but the 240 haste for 20 seconds every 2 minutes, off the GCD makes for a rather fancy trinket booster.

/use 13
/cast Lifeblood

(or macro it into a common rotation skill, such as mind blast, shield slam, ect...)

Commentaire de Omgomgesiuol

This change is really stupid!
Why on earth would Mother Earth grant Haste?

I chose herbalism on my priest (among other reasons) to have a Last Stand Self Heal that I can use in tough situation when Mana is running out.
So that I can spare those last drops to keep the tank alive and possibly prevent a wipe.

I seriously hope that Blizzard reverts this change.

Quick question, why on earth would Mother Earth want to heal you when you're picking herbs up off of her and grinding them up for God knows what reason?

Maybe it makes sense to you, but not me. Nothing does, because it's a GAME.

Commentaire de 673059

Quick question, why on earth would Mother Earth want to heal you when you're picking herbs up off of her and grinding them up for God knows what reason?

Uses your skill in Herbalism to absorb energy and nutrients from the earth ...
Because Herbalists know how to and not because they are more popular with Mother Earth.
And why would she grant haste, if picking herbs up off of her ... does not please her?

I think that consistency (making sense) does matter in a Game World.
The obvious intention of the change was to give Lifeblood some offensive use.
So why not add a restore over time effect for Mana, Rage, Energy, Focus and Runic Power
without rendering the HoT useless?

Commentaire de jahf

:Sadface: I took this on my new rogue specifically for the heal and got it to 450 a couple of weeks ago. Guess I get to train something else.

Commentaire de makson

Does it stack with Engineering glove enchant?

Commentaire de n4rt0n

as of 4.0.1 it no longers heal the player over time but it gives a haste buff (240 at rank 7) and heals instantly for 4% of maximum hp.

I suppose it's to enhance the fact that heals/mana/dispels are going to be very important in Cataclysm.

Commentaire de 692869

Lifeblood now heals for 4% instantly and then grants 240 haste for 20 seconds (at LvL 80).

Some people have been complaining about this because they really wanted the heals.
I will try to express how useful haste is however...

For every 32.79 points of haste rating you will have 1% faster attack speed at level 80.
This means Lifeblood gives you approximately 7.32% Increased Attack Speed (IAS).

In World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, haste will also increase the rate at which you gain energy, runes, and focus. Retribution paladins and Enhancement shaman will have a talent that allows them to take advantage of this benefit.

Some classes, such as rogues can produce A LOT of white damage (normal attack without any special skills) and may benefit from this, especially if coupled with a skill like Slice and Dice.

Before you go "re-speccing" because you are upset about your HoT loss, check out how big of a DPS difference it makes.

Commentaire de 687014

Except now ALL classes can heal without first aid, one way or another.

Do you mean that all classes have some ability or talent which allows them to self-heal (without using bandages, potions, etc.)? I am going to assume that is what you meant, and I disagree :)

If by one way or another you are counting that some can do it out of combat that does not really compare to Lifeblood. E.g. Mages, sure they can create food out of thin air and eat it, but that doesn't quite work when a demon is shredding you to pieces and you need to iceblock. The only mage ability to heal in combat I could find was Permafrost and that only heals our pet. I know I used and abused Lifeblood while leveling my mage.

Commentaire de 65830

Anyone know how much haste it will be at 85?

Commentaire de 673059

I agree with the haste being a buff and not a nerf but... 4%? Where did u got that information from, I just tested rank 1 on a lvl 8 rogue with 174 hp and it heals me for 39~38. That's about 20%. Does the heal diminishes with level or something?

Especially at > level 80 chars will have a lot more base stamina and stamina from gear.
My level 85 priest (with crappy gear) has around 90K health unbuffed and Lifeblood (rank 8) heals for around 2k on average which is slightly more than 2%.
Obviously the better the gear the less significant the heal.

Forget the heal! The heal is bubkis! I found it in a cracker jack box!

But the 480 haste rating at rank 8 on a 2 minute CD is actually quite nice (3.74% haste at level 85).
I've actually macroed Lifeblood into Vampiric Touch (shadow spec) and into Greater Heal (disc spec).

Commentaire de Azaram

It just healed me at 84 with max herbalism for 897. Woo. I do more damage to myself trimming my claws...

Commentaire de 582994

So is there any rank higher than 7?

I'm currently 450/525 but WoWHead doesn't have any rank 8.

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