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Kommentar von 7285

Blizz 20 sec CD on this plz! :P
anyway 4k crit with fire spec, just cause no +fire dmg decent equip actually for locks

Kommentar von 7987

Remember that you don't use shards in the Arena, so don't worry and let loose that spell whenever it's cooldown is up!

Kommentar von 7786

I don't see any reason not to use soul fire if the situation is right. I'd recommend having your succy charm first and then let it rip. Don't try to fear and cast only because your opponent will usually either run out of your line of sight or out of range. When you get a successful crit, it's nice to see your opponents health get cut in half pretty much immediatly.

Note: This spell is situational at best. It has always been my first reaction to throw up Corruption and Curse of Agony. Doing this will basically make your opponent immune to charm (not really immune, but the charm will break with every tick of damage done from your DOTS). Make sure that if you're going to cast Soul Fire, do it first thing.

Kommentar von Hellreject

Very nice warlock skill that now kinda sucks because Blizzard "normalized" it. Instead of 170% Spelldmg, it's now only at 100%. So basically, this means that the spell no longer has those insane high crits, and thus isn't quite worth spending a soul shard and 4 seconds on.

Kommentar von 29902

A bit silly Soulfire got nerfed regarding the bonus dmg it gains while pyroblast (mage talent) benefits 170% fire spell dmg and it can be made an instant cast every 3 minutes via talents . Go figure .

Kommentar von 52329

strange how our biggest nuke uses the least mana of the other "projectile" DD spells...less than shadowbolt,incinerate,conflag,shadowburn,etc

Kommentar von 21004

This routinely crits for 5-6,000... I just wish I could see the persons face when they are over half health and then BOOM they drop like a bolt of netherweave :P

Granted it is a very situational spell, but man is it awesome!

EDIT- I meant to post this under the Rank 4, apparently I can't delete a post though...

Kommentar von Menulo

very good, makes dest fun again. was thinking about speccing affli.
but this spell is realy good in pvp. 2k crit on lvl 49 is about 2/3 of many peoples hp :P.
think its useless wen your not dest. you can cast 2 SB's in 6sec

Kommentar von 80711

This spell is AMAZING for Destruction specced locks in pvp. Ive seen people 1 shotted with a 8.5k+ crit. 8)

Kommentar von xxxillidanxxx

my destro lvl49 lock critics more than 4k with soulfire rank 1. If i equip my full fire gear (then i have low stats) it critics more than 5k. you can inspect my gear. search http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Paraskovya
note: sometimes i swicth my talents and gear to afflication. so you may see my afflication gear :=)

Kommentar von 128561

What i like to do is have my succubbus seduse the target (pvp), then i have plenty of time to fire off a high dmg soul fire then i usually use fear or HoT and dot them up and when fear is almost up use death coil for the finale they are completely immobilized during the fight and they always get pwned by it.

Kommentar von 109382

this is quite useful for grinding/farming as well since u can open up with this, maybe use one dot, then soul drain to git ur shard bak, easy low mana kill.

6 sec cast is good for dropping agro before the massive hit u can git with it if using during a fight

Kommentar von 151035

tryin to copy pyroblast eh locks?

Kommentar von 283244

it is true that this cost a soul shard, but if ur a lv 48 destro lock doing 2ks with rank 1 of this spell, people run away from you as soon as they see your hands catch on fire from casting >:D

Kommentar von 248959

I use Soulfire with Bloodlust on boss fights. Works out quite nice. It's dps is about the same as incinerate+immolate on target, but with the expection that Soulfire is MUCH MORE mana efficient.

Use it where you can imho.

Kommentar von Pitufito

Whit the talent https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=63158 this spell will become one of the best spell to PvE... damaging a lot and whit a 60% cast time reduccion... and even -2 seconds whit Bane. You can spam this to kill the bosses before they enrage. Near and better in power than the Mages Molten Fury.

Kommentar von 175315

cast on target with cca 2,5k hp, then cast drain soul and it will be free for soul shards ;-)

Kommentar von 442242

Haha useless?

Watch this before you start putting down soul-fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smNc38GOBC4

Kommentar von 150529

/cast power word:shield
/cast penance
/spit
/lol

Kommentar von 206160

with new Decimation talent, you can just keep spamming Soul Fire.
no shards needed!
no confusing rotation, no need think about anything but just spam SF :D
(with new Molten Core, make sure Corruption is up all time for more ownage)

Kommentar von jacjac

funny how much destructive warlock sucks cos demon damage more with this...

demon can use soul fire all the time if the creture is below 35% and thats alot in raid and pvp. and it wont cost them a soul shard. and soul fire is the stronger spell in game... btw when demon warlock spam soul fire it got a side effect that give 30 more crit and 15 more damage, but i think its more end 15

Kommentar von 549559

Soul Fire is better because you are killing an enemy with the soul of another enemy . So awesome!

Kommentar von Maleficious

The highest crit I've gotten with Soul Fire to date was just under 32k on one of those Tortured Riflemen in H-HoR (can't recall if I had MC or Meta up, probably had MC). The sheer damage of this spell combined with the blazing speed (and freedom) that Decimation (+Bane of course) adds to it makes Soul Fire Demonology's crowning achievement in damage, albeit most often only during the final 35% of an enemy's life.

Kommentar von 629499

In cataclysm will it still use up a soul shard? It hasn't been noted on here.

Kommentar von 632139

With the new beta cataclysm talents in the destruction tree, it now appears the demonology and potentially every tree's main filler spell will be Soulfire. With talents, the base cast of Soulfire will be 2 seconds, and Decimation still remains in the demonology tree with a 40% buff to the casting speed. Say goodbye to shadowbolt!

Kommentar von 477668

Moldarth, you have to think about that they change the stats in cataclysm: this specc (purely in thought of the changes I know off in cataclysm) https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/talent#I0hZhddfourRroG0b

plus in cataclysm so is Decimation changed from haste boost to a damage boost effect for Soul Fire (increasing damage done by 18% (at full rank) + 15% to crit chance (only for the Soul Fire spell))

As I see it, in Cataclysm Soul Fire will not cost Soul Shards anymore (since blizzard have redone our Soul Shard system for cataclysm) and like they will most likely change Soul Fire to fit this change like it cost more mana then 9% of total +1 SS (SS= Soul Shard) to something like 15-20% of total mana instead (to bad though that you can have decimation in the new destro specc (DAMAGE!), well we can't get to imba iagainst the other classes.

Kommentar von Foresee

I'm shocked that no one pointed it out, but the new Empowered Imp now makes this an instant cast. Also, imp soul fire grants haste when the target is above 80% (which is counter intuitive compared to most skills in the game that give damage increases when targets are low on health)

Also, if they dont change soul leech, which im positive they will, between soul fire procs, chaos bolt, etc a destro lock will never worry about mana again it seems.

Kommentar von Amagh

Soul fire is actually more incorporated to destro rotation in cata. Since improved imp proc makes soul fire an instant cast, As for demo this will not be a filler. Demo filler will still be shadow bolt and SF is used when molten core procs.

Kommentar von 148868

So, from a Demonology warlock PoV:

The new Soul Fire takes ~50% more time to cast than a shadow bolt at 80, with Bane but without Emberstorm, then 11% more with both Bane and Emberstorm, does twice the damage, has a bigger sp coefficient, benefits from Decimation and has the same specialization bonus (+15%). Thus the only use for Shadow bolt in case of Demonology is applying the 5% debuff.

Seems like the new Demonology flavor of the month damage are fire spells. Apply Immolate, keep it up with Hand of Gul'Dan, use Soul Fire as filler and Incinerate on Molten Core procs (which now happen off Immolate). And then again Soul Fire in execute range. Add Bane of Doom and Corruption to taste.

Kommentar von Rexfortuni

At low lvls (once Emberstorm 2/2 is obtained) your soul fire has a much higher dps than shadow bolt does. A constant spam of soul fire (with a few instant cast soul fires thrown in) can increase your dmg by 1/3 or more over a shadow bolt spam (with the instant cast soul fire thrown in for the buff that improved soul fire rewards).

Even though soul fire has a longer cast time (an extra 1/6 of the shadow bolt cast) it does almost twice the dmg and costs less mana. On short fights, shadow bolt may be better simply because you may not even be able to get a soul fire in, but on a boss fight, throw up an immolate, conflagrate, and bane of doom and spam the hell outta some soul fire.

Also, at some point, haste from buffs will cause shadow bolt to be cast faster than the GCD, so you're wasting time just sitting there. There is a point where soul fire would be cast faster than the GCD as well, but it's further up and it will still be causing more dmg in the same time.

Edit: sp&g

Kommentar von 821053

Lvl 20 F4P players can oneshot with this.
Even more than the fabled MM Aimed shot with talent

Kommentar von 206160

How to be unfaithful
How to be disgraceful.

To lose yourself
To lose control
Fall off the fence
Fire and soul.

To lose yourself
To lose control
Fall off the fence
Where is your fire and soul?

I'll wait for you forever
I'll wait for you forever
I'll take you to my grave.

Kommentar von demonlock666

In the New Expansion Mists of Pandaria , The Spell is getting a new Effect Model, which is really cool!

Kommentar von Toldry

by the Mists of Pandaria tooltip:

Soul Fire always critically strikes. In addition, the damage is increased by your critical strike chance.

This could serve Warlocks similarly to Lavaeruption and could be useful to proc all sorts of things that proc only from critical strikes

Kommentar von Thottbot

With drain soul being allowed in PvP now, soul fire reagents are no problem.

Any 1on1 contains a huge advantage, since seducing or fearing the target and casting soul fire will give him at least 700 damage (this is on rank 1), and 1100 damage (non-crit!) with curse of element on.

I just had a 1434dmg crit with rank 1 soul fire and curse of element on a lvl 48 affliction (no talents in destruction yet) warlock against a level 45 creature in the Hinterlands.

Don't dismiss this spell please :) It's great.

At this level a mage's pyroblast causes 503 to 631 Fire damage and an additional 188 Fire damage over 12 sec. That's 631+188=819 damage non-crit, and this is optimistically speaking! Ours does around 1100 damage non-crit! For 30 mana less too ;) (and a soulshard, but that's easy to get back tbh!)

Kommentar von Thottbot

this move is definately for pvp, it allows u to kill w/o worrying about a priest casting shield (even though we own priests anyway) or pali's to cast shield. i'll tell u my story...

This pali (50) jumped me (49) while i was beating up a gryphon in hinterlands, so i finish off the gryphon, sacrifice void, dot the !@#$% up and cast a shadow bolt or two. Got him to about 75% when i feared him, shot off another shadow bolt than began casting sf. He got out of the fear with half health (about 1000hp) and thought he could finish me off, while he was running back he got pealted w/ my sf and hit the floor :P. If i would have casted another shadow bolt while he was feared he would have just shielded, healed than kicked my ass.

**overall it allows them not to react after sf as they would in between 2 shadow bolts

Kommentar von Thottbot

Soulfire can crit for ALOT. Theirs recorded 5k damage crits, ive also heared that some1 actually crit for 7k once, couldve been shadowbolt as well tho. It isnt to far fetched when you add up CoS/El with AV 30% damage buff.

screenshot for 15k, close to 15.5k, crit on mob.

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soulfire154295ek.jpg

Kommentar von Thottbot

Those huge crits of 7k+ only happen in BWL where certain mobs are extremely vulnerable to certain schools of magic.

As for critting for 5k+ yup. This does happen in PvP with enough +dmg to spells and a large vulnerability bonus.

Kommentar von Thottbot

the pure love of fire and flames ablaze!

try to find a PvP vid called "Drakedog :: The final Destination", that undead lock loves to seduce, SF, then own ( alot )

his build btw is 7/7/37, not sure wheer his talents go tho

Kommentar von Thottbot

OMG! i dont care if that 15k crit was in BWL or not, it is effin cool! As for destruct locks, i dont see why the stupid afflict locks dont wise up and go Des... What the hell is better than immolate, conflagrate, shadowburn, fear, and the a Soulfire to finish off the beotches!

In the last 30 duels i have lost only 2 times... once to a very crit happy rogue, and the other to a warlock with a felhunter out ( i put all my talents into making my imp god). So i think i've produced good results...

Kommentar von Thottbot

i have most of my felheart and was doing WSG when a warrior with most of wrath set (buy my guess at least) came after me 1 on 1, i fear CoE then soul fire. soul fire hits for 9k crit he drops dead and never comes after me alone again

Kommentar von Thottbot

well... this is a good spell for PvE!

if you use this to pull a mob then u can start killing them with their original HP - 1000!

not to mention instance bosses where the tank can take the aggro while your pet hurls boulders / ships them and you get ready for a HUGE spell!

Kommentar von Thottbot

I'm a level 48 demonology lock (8/31/0) and I just got a 1.2 k crit with this spell. I love it!

Kommentar von Thottbot

i just want to know whether it is better to have, lets say +fire dmg, or +magic dmg/healin on gear for a spell like soul fire to hit harder? does it make a difference to that spell whether it is one or the other?

i know fire dmg will contribute to fire spells, and dmg/heal will contribute to all magic... but if u load +fire dmg and cast a fire spell will that dmg have more of an effect than +dmg/healin?

sorry if i confused some of you but i wanna get to know once and for all :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Got the spell, went into AB with CoE:

"1523"

so I was WTF? HOOOOW? must have been uber luck

next target:

"1580"

!

<berserker buff + coe>

1100 non crit
1898 Crit!

lvl 48 warlock

Kommentar von Thottbot

its so good...just fill your bag with souls hard then go in BG :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

at lvl 49 with nice stuff + berserker + orc racial + trinket (serpent ruby) ,
u can crit 3K

Kommentar von Thottbot

Here are the pros and cons in comparison of the pyroblast of the mage and the soul fire of the warlock

Pyroblast:
Pro:
-you learn at a possible lvl 20
-deals additional dot dmg
-no cool down
-deals in total 691-919dmg
-35 yard range
Con:
-only those with talent in it learn it
-at lvl 48 it cost 335 mana
-due to having that extra dot its initial dmg is 503-631
Soul Fire:
Pro:
-everyone learns it
-at lvl 48 it cost 170 mana
-has semi early on talent that reduces its casting time from 6sec to 4sec
-deals 623-783 in total
-has a higher crit dmg possibility due to having all of its dmg happen at once and the ruin talent if you take it
-since it deals no dot dmg you can seduce afterwards for your next shadow bolt or what ever your plot is
Con:
-you learn at lvl 48
-requires a soul shard
-has one minute cooldown
-30 yard range

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just got SF and the first MOB I used it on was a 48 in Searing Gorge....1.5K Crit the very first use. I am dest spec'd which likely helped but still. Wow.

Kommentar von Thottbot

"Any 1on1 contains a huge advantage, since seducing or fearing the target and casting soul fire will give him at least 700 damage (this is on rank 1), and 1100 damage (non-crit!) with curse of element on.

I just had a 1434dmg crit with rank 1 soul fire and curse of element on a lvl 48 affliction (no talents in destruction yet) warlock against a level 45 creature in the Hinterlands."

This guy said things pretty well. But let's take destruction locks into consideration. Through talents, the casting time of SF is only 4 seconds as opposed to 6. With an 1100 non crit (with curse of elements), to a 1400 crit, theres a 300 damage bonus. But through talents, destruction locks get 100% increased to critical strike damage, making it a 600 damage. This makes it no impossible task for a destruction lock to get a 1700+ soul fire crit at level 48. :)

Kommentar von Thottbot

yep that's the word I said when I critted 2.4k with this lovely spell from hell! I got 114 spell damage, and the highest I've critted before is 1.3k with shadowbolt, got 137 shadow spell damage too

Edit: I just critted 2554

Kommentar von Thottbot

With the main three DoT's *Immolate, CoA, Corruption* , my lock geared twards, Spirit and Intilect, with a 121 bounus spell damage, Add that all in with a Soulfire, Shadowburn and Conflagrate, I can easaly pull 6k in Damage in 5-10 seconds if my 12% spell crit goes off on every spell *which happens more often than not* Put Fear in there for PvP with a taste of Death Coil.

6k damage at lvl 48

Thats all I need to say

Kommentar von Thottbot

I don't get it.
I have just got my SF by it dosn't crit for mor than 900dmg. even when u have curse of elements on, I know that my gear suck, maybe it's that..

How can you guys crit for 1200dmg, even more?
What do I have to do

Kommentar von Thottbot

Nice, seeing you guys critting 2.4k with only 117 fiyah dmg makes me so much more pumped for this. By lvl 49 i will have my h4xorz trinket (ruby serpent) thats automatically +100 spell dmg. And on top of that Eye of Flame , or something like that, its an epic BoE, +43 spell dmg and 11int 11spir, (something like that). If i get around 300 spell damage, i'll be seeing many toasted gnomes. And to the post above me. Theres only one explanation, your spec. Either your not specced destruction, or you are specced destruction, but just didnt put points in Ruin , or Emberstorm. If your interested in high crits i suggest all warlocks re-roll Destructin : ) at lvl 40 i crit a 950 with shadowbolt : ) : )

-Around 50 Killing Blows, and 100+HonorKills, but ofc that bg lasted 30 mins, and the horde did it for me to enjoy me being 40, in the 30-39 bracket : ) <3Horde<3

Kommentar von Thottbot

I just made a 1309 soulfire crit on my level 48 lock today on a level 9 boar just to try it out. I used curse of the elements and sacrificed my imp to give me 24% increased fire damage. I forgot all about the firestone, so I'll have to use one of those to see if it ups the damage some more. I don't have any talents in Destruction yet, 5/34/0 so that crit surprised me a bit even though I had the buffs on. I used it a few times in Arathi Basin and got 700-800 damage which is normal I guess because I kept forgetting to put CoE on them. I just love this spell too much :) It also costs practically nothing mana wise so thats a nice plus too.

Kommentar von Thottbot

AWESOME! I'm a lvl 50 AFFLICTION lock and yesterday while I was doing an instince, I crit a demon for 1448 damage with this spell. Even though I'm not spec'd to do more fire dmg, I still am amazed at that much power out of a lvl 50 lock! I dont even do that much with my 60 mage, and omfgomfgomfgomfg! this lock is my godsend! I LOVE IT!

Kommentar von Thottbot

14XX is normal HIT with soulfire for a lvl 50 lock. And you can't even crit that much with a 60 mage? ell too pee

Kommentar von Thottbot

i crit 2474 with this at lvl 49 with 150 fire dmg and a tar that was veunerable. pretty sweet, ill try to get a screenshot up

Kommentar von Thottbot

check out this guy....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DB4VLYw0tso

then after that..watch this...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VKyD-NCJZgw

Kommentar von Thottbot

Lvl 48 and just got SF. Im destruction and just critted for 2117, granted it was on a rat but still, thats just awesome.

Kommentar von Thottbot

Ok today i dinged 48, knowing well about Soul Fire thanks to reading and hearing other people. I was expecting something around 1k damage if i were lucky (maybe 1.3) since i don't have ruin... But you can bet your mommys wheelchair i got surprised when i see a crit for about 2k! this is with only instance gear and about 2-3 BoE blues with +dam. This feels like the start of a long and good friendship :D

(CoE and berserker buff where both on but, what the heck! The rogue died just as he should have)

Kommentar von Thottbot

hehe u shuld see the new drakedog..... he's awesome with SF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOS5IjX-o3Y

0/7/54

his build can be found on the korean server

Kommentar von Thottbot

Like im new to WoW, So what does this mean
"Trainer (1 Gold 26 Silver)" Does that mean that I need to pay 1 gold and 26 silver per spell?:o

Kommentar von Thottbot

hey..do u need to have ur tallent points spent in afliction to get soul fire....cuz im speced in demonology and if i had this spell i would be perfect.....

Kommentar von Thottbot

Just bought this as a lvl 48 all Demo lock with +225 spell damage (self-buffed). Went to ZF & crit this spell for 1624 on the boss in the cave. Total aggro puller, but i had my VW out (for a total of approx. -50% to damage taken by me) so I was able to tank the boss till he died. Ended up dealing out more damage than anyone in instance run by a full 25%, but I also took more damage in that same run than our main tank did by over 6%. Be careful when using this spell, as a high crit can make you a very hated target & if your tanks aren't good as keeping aggro you can find yourself tanking mobs/bosses until they die.

Kommentar von Thottbot

At lvl 48 with +76 spell dmg in AB, I used CoE then Soulfire on a 48 druid in human form....1988 crit one shotted. Absolutely ridiculous

Kommentar von Thottbot

can i ask how you got 50% damage reduction? :D or anyone else that would know hehe

Kommentar von Thottbot

does this cost a soul shard to cast or do you gain a soulshard? plz reply

Kommentar von Allakhazam

does this go through sheilds?

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I've just become lvl 48 and got Soul Fire. I tried it and after 3 times had a crit of 1230 damage! :D
I have to admit that I put curse of elements on it..... and I casted it on a rat. ;)
Can't wait to get Ruin with this...

Kommentar von Allakhazam

CHEESE KILKLIGNGNA

Kommentar von Allakhazam

SAY CHEESE UR DEAD IN 6 SEC'S

muahahahahahahahahaha

Kommentar von Allakhazam

SUPER KILL MANIA ON LVL 49 GO FULL PvP WITH THIS!

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