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Kommentar von 798590

Hat einen internen CD von 60 Sek. und eine Uptime von 20% (Quelle: Englische Kommentare + selber getestet), was es auf eine Ebene mit dem damit für den Manareg nur minimal besseren Kern der Reife hebt. Upgraden lohnt sich mit dem Kern also nicht, den man außerdem wirklich auf CD halten müsste, um diesen Manareg zu erreichen. Der Procc der Träne nennt sich Läuternde Tränen, er kann nur im Kampf bei kritischen Heals (einschließlich HoT-Ticks) proccen, also entgegen alle Befürchtungen nicht schon beim Vollheilen und schon gar nicht beim Buffen losgehen ;)

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Kommentar von 726927

Proc's from Healing over Time ticks, aswell.

Kommentar von 152010

this trinket gives me roughly 3k more mana during the 15 sec proc, sexy stuff :)

Kommentar von 731466

Does anyone know the actual inner CD ?

Kommentar von Grizlor

1) Add a power aura for the proc, which is called Cleansing Tears
2) Drop mana tide during the proc
3) Profit.

Kommentar von 740426

This trinket can proc with Blood of Isiset 2x 1710 spirit <3

Kommentar von chimera

This trinket is horrible for my disc priest. I had 5-10% uptime on Halfus. We just don't crit often enough.

Kommentar von Korashy

Procced twice on a shadowword pain crit, which is rather weird, i was doing low lvl quests and just ran around shadow word paining everything and kept getting procs here and there, i know for a fact that i wasn't healing and i was on holy spec. Weird

Kommentar von 252184

You should be hit capped as a matter of priority when assigned to a Damage role.

The holy grail that was reaching the hit cap in the previous expansion is no more. At least not in this case, for an spriest. Stat balancing is important now. You will not necessaly get a dps increase from more hit (even if below the cap), even on skull bosses.

Here is a nice post on it.

Kommentar von 766782

Seems like it wont proc on overheals
Didnt for me!

Kommentar von Lionxie

I have a question about this Trinket vs that of Core of Ripeness.

If the ICD of this Trinket is 1 minute, wouldn't it be better than the flat 2 minute Spirit use of the Core? I have been looking at these two for a long time and i feel that this Trinket procs often enough that i don't feel like its going to surpass that of the Core...unless the Intellect from the purple is just that much better for a Holy Paladin. I couldn't find a really good debate about this as well...so any input is appreciated.

Kommentar von MMOSimca

You're not accounting for the horrid proc rate.

It's a 30% chance to proc on crit, and our crit rating for most spells right now is like 20%. So, if you crit (rare), it has a rare chance to proc. Even if the ICD is 60 or 65 seconds, it won't proc more often than every 90 or 100 seconds on average.

Looking through my logs for my last raid, on an 8:53 Omnitron kill, it had a 11.7% uptime, proccing 4 times. 4 times in nearly 9 minutes is really terrible, considering I could have used Core of Ripeness 4 times in 8 minutes (maybe 8 minutes 30 seconds to account for initial mana depletion) and it has better spirit for a longer length (20 seconds vs 15) and more intellect.

Edit:
Some more figures:
3 times in a 5:45 Halfus Kill
4 times in a 7:11 Magmaw kill

Across all fights and all wipes of the night, it had a 13.9% uptime, which is being generous due to a few sub 1-minute wipes. Based on that, let's call it a 14% uptime, just to be super nice.

Let's also pretend you can't use Core of Ripeness until 30 seconds into a fight because you don't want to waste mana (and Tears of Blood doesn't follow these rules and will sometimes waste mana).

On a 5:30 fight (just so we can be inbetween Core of Ripeness uses, at its very, very worst point):
Tears: 0.14 * 1710 spirit = 239.4 Spirit per second average
Core: 40/330 * 1926 spirit = 233.4545 Spirit per second average

So, putting Core of Ripeness at its absolute weakest point, and putting Tears of Blood at its best and even giving it a few free percent, Core of Ripeness is only 6 spirit behind. If we change the fight length to 5:20 or 5:40, Core of Ripeness is already on top of Tears. Assuming you still managed to find a fight that ended in a perfect window and it was 6 Spirit behind, and ignoring the fact that you can control the use and procs can be wasted, Core has 46 more Intellect.

46 Int > 6 Spirit (at its absolute theoretical worst)

Core remains an amazing Paladin healer trinket. It is easily our best piece from Valor Points and I recommend it as a first purchase for any upcoming Healadin unless your boots, relic, or ring are not 346.

And don't get me wrong - Tears of Blood heroic is a very nice trinket, one of the best 346s no doubt. It's just not as good as Core of Ripeness, which is one of the best 359 epics.

Kommentar von 759782

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not but for some reason it had proced on a Earth Shock crit was confused when I got it cause i did not do any heal spell besides hittin earth shock

Kommentar von sidelsky18

Some notes:

1) The intelligence given by this trinket provides 4500 maximum mana, 300 spell power and 0.47% spell critical strike chance.

2) This is an amazing trinket for any healer, especially those with increased in-combat mana regeneration (Holy Priests).

3) When using this trinket, it is advisable to start off boss fights by using some (5-10%) of your mana quickly by putting out some HoTs or shields so you'll get the full effect of the trinket.

4) You can only equip one of these trinkets, including both non-heroic and heroic versions. Attempting to equip one while you have another (even if it's from a different difficulty) will result in the error message "You can only equip 1 item in the Tear of Blood category."

Kommentar von JoEU

So not a single comment if core and this are the top TWO pre raid trinkets or not which seems like the only reasonable discussion.

Kommentar von Werlwind

Had a spriest ninjaing this tonight. And a moonkin druid which didn't win. The spriest decided to need on it too since the moonkin was needing on both this and the tanking trinket she drops.
People are the biggest problem on this planet.

Kommentar von targetman

Why do you think people roll druids? So they can need just about anything. Greedy shapeshifting bastards. Fortunately the boomkin who rolled need on this trinket lost it to me(disco priest). Seems like people don't realize that tank qs and healer qs are much shorter than dps qs, and prefer to wait an hour so they can ninja someone else's hard-earned gear.

Kommentar von 624821

For Discipline priests this trinket is amazing. If we pop Inner Focus this gives us an additional 25% chance to critically heal with Prayer of Healing, which gives us 5 (up to 8 targets if you have 3 members that have pets... I think :P) to heal at once, for no mana cost at all, with about a 45% chance to critically heal on each person, this is almost a guaranteed chance to activate the 1710 spirit on this trinket. Also, since Inner Focus only has a 45 second CD, we could almost always have this trinket activating whenever the trinkets CD finishes! :D

Kommentar von 800570

Got this today on my holy pally, and decided to test it out.
I used Holy Light as a filler spell (1.97s cast) and Holy Shock on cooldown (6s)
Crit chance is 13.16% for holy light, and 28.16% for Holy Shock
I did a 10 Minute test overhealing on myself

First Proc -0:19
Second Proc- 1:38
Third Proc- 3:21
Fourth Proc- 4:43
Fifth Proc- 6:08
Sixth Proc- 7:37
Seventh Proc- 9:32

So that was 105 (7*15) seconds of 1710 spirit. That comes out to about 17.5% (105/600) uptime, about 299.25 (0.175*1710) average spirit. Now, during this, I had also used my Kern der Reife 4 times (I could have used it 5 theoretically, if it was the first and last thing I hit, but I was more realistic and used it 4 times). So, I got 80 (4*20) seconds of 1926 spirit. That's about 13.33 (repeating of course) uptime. An uptime of 13.33% for 1926 spirit averaged to be about 256.8 (0.1333333333333*1926) average spirit over the course of 10 minutes. If I had used Kern der Reife 5 times, the uptime would have been 16.66 (repeating of course) percent, which averages out to a nice 321 spirit.

So, in a "normal" scenario, Blutträne comes out to be at an average of 285 int, 299.25 spirit. Kern der Reife however, comes out to be at an average of 321 int, 256.8 spirit. So, Kern der Reife had 36 more intellect, but ~42 less spirit.
In the "best case" scenario for Kern der Reife, it had 321 intellect and 321 spirit, compared to Blutträne with 285 intellect, and 299.25 spirit. Kern der Reife comes out on top with 36 more intellect, and ~22 more spirit.

This is, however, comparing a blue iLevel 346 trinket to a purple iLevel 359, but as you can see, Blutträne comes fairly close. In a raid scenario, this may change, as a 5% haste buff (spriests/boomkin/wrath of air) and a 5% crit buff (I know elemental shaman give one, not sure of any others though) may lead to the Tear having more procs. Either way, both are good trinkets for any healer, and Blutträne should definitely be a must have for pre-raid healing gear

Kommentar von dustdog

Noticed that this actually procced off my Shadow Word: Pain critting when I forgot to switch trinkets.

Kommentar von Sarabeth

Not that any of you shadow priests should roll over healers on this (while healing an instance as holy, I had to roll against a shadow priest and an elemental shaman on this), but I can confirm that it can proc off vampiric embrace heals. Doesn't really do you much good, but I thought I'd post it just for information completeness :P.

Kommentar von 121388

I have this and Tsunami for my resto shaman. It seems to me that the proc on crit condition would be pretty weak for shaman based on our low crit rate. Are my thoughts right? I haven't done extensive tests. As I accumulate valors, perhaps the core of ripeness is my only reasonable regen option. There don't seem to be many great Valor upgrades to my armor slots, but I considered getting the gloves. Any advice?

Kommentar von 765137

I have this item on my mage (It was an upgrade from a green trinket and nobody else wanted it) and, strangely enough, it procs when I am in fire spec. From what I have observed I think it proccing may have something to do with Ignite.

The bonus Spirit is completely useless to me, but it's just an odd observation.

Kommentar von 455701

Seems to also Proc off of Spell Damaging Criticals as well.
Screenshot for confirmation:

Kommentar von Zorca

Tear of Blood, the new band loved by death knights and warlocks everywhere.

Kommentar von 798406

I did some tests on the uptime and for a resto druid this seems to always proc for me every 1 min 20 to 1 min 25 secs... that is the time as soon as it procs. So basically every 1 min 5 secs you have this proc and it is up for 15 secs. Its the absolutely best trink you can get in heroic cata dungeons atm. I have this with the mandala (from Tol Barad) and the mandala procs far more often... between the two of them I end most heroic boss fights with close to full mana... with a badly geared tank usually 85-90K mana out of a 110K mana pool.

Kommentar von 835923

looks like it's a nice healing trinket. would love to have it on my druid.

edited - small spelling errors. p:

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Blutträne

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Gegenstandsstufe 346
Wird beim Aufheben gebunden
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+285 Intelligenz

Benötigt Stufe 85
Anlegen: Eure kritischen Treffer mit Heilzaubern haben eine Chance, Euch 15 sec lang 1710 Willenskraft zu verleihen. (Procchance: 30%, 1.25Min. Abklingzeit)

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