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Kommentar von Noriella

Ist in diesem Jahr (2011) noch Boss auf der Erbse zu erfüllen oder gibt es als Geschenk dies Jahr kein Erbsengewehr mehr für diejenigen, die das bisher nicht gemacht hatten / durch wow-pause nicht konnten ?

sprich: gibt's erbsen / gewehr dies jahr ?

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Kommentar von Manowas

You'll shoot your eye out, kid.

Kommentar von Miwna

This achievement is not a requirement for the Merrymaker meta-achievement.

Kommentar von 471361

Upon successful pelt-ification: absolutely ESSENTIAL that each Horde leader use... 'THE WORD'. Y'know... THAT word. The gran-daddy of ALL four-letter-words, word.

... think of the potential screenies.

Kommentar von Adreaver

Look at this! FRA-GEE-LEE...must be Italian.

Anyone know if this is replacing Crashin' & Thrashin' for the Winter Veil meta? Seems strange to have C&R on the meta still, unless they plan on giving out the same gift again

Kommentar von Firedwarf

This achievement is new for 2009's Winter Veil festival, and involves what players speculate to be this year's special Winter Veil Gift. For this achievement, you will have to use your newly acquired BB gun (presumably) to pelt each of the opposing faction's leaders - how mean! First snowballs, now BBs? What ever happened to respecting authority? Not exactly sure how you're going to get out there safely to pull this one off just yet, maybe there will be some sort of training ground and you don't have to shoot the actual NPCs.

Kommentar von Wirethrall

Wow guys, instead of crying about you using your snowballs and not getting credit for this, perhaps you should READ the achievement first? It doesn't say hit them with snowballs, it says PELT. This is probably not from using snowballs from vendors, but the Winter Veil '10 gift which won't be available until 12/25.

Kommentar von Sallara

I am assuming the BB gun will be attained by getting the level 80 present under the tree at the 25th of december-January the 2nd. I'm guessing it's a 'wait until the 25th' achievement like the He Knows if You've Been Naughty achievement,

Kommentar von jokeyrhyme

I was trying to pelt Lady Sylvanas on my Death Knight. Before I made the shot, I decided to make a Deathgate first so I could quickly escape before she made her revenge upon me. I successfully pelted her with the item and escaped through my portal... only to discover that all the guards at Acherus were hostile to me. Seems I couldn't escape death. :P

Kommentar von Smilomaniac

Please note that sometimes this MISSES, and also that cast gets interrupted when you get hit.
Making this for a pretty annoying achievement.

When you "miss" the faction leader will get a "startled - did someone shoot at me?" debuff, and it wont tick towards achievement.

It's already an aggravating achievement, but the cast-time and miss-chance are just ridiculous...

Kommentar von dragondude

i just started the BB king achievement and started with the blood elf boss, it took me 4 shots to hit him and every attempt does aggro him, in other words if you solo it be prepared to corpse run alot because the BB gun misses more then it hits

Kommentar von 206641

Before you attempt this achievement, you might want to get a raid going for For the Alliance! (or at the very least a couple of friends to act as a distraction). I tried to solo Lady Sylvanas Windrunner on a subtlety rogue, but got my head beaten in. Just like any ranged weapon, the Red Rider Air Rifle requires you to be at range. So I stood at range in stealth, and fired. It has a cast time, and before I'd finished 'casting', Sylvanas stunned me and sic'd everything in the room on me... including stealth detectors - so Cloak of Shadows and Vanish didn't work very well for me, unfortunately. This achievement isn't necessary for the full Merrymaker achievement, but like the Crashin' & Thrashin' achievement from last year, you may not get the chance to do this next year (but maybe you will, I don't know).

Kommentar von Camaris

I don't mind the stuns or the misses, but the Target Too Close thing is just making me want to kill Baby Santa.

Kommentar von Agiani

BB King does not appear to be required for the title Merrymaker (for 2009). All that is required is:

On Metzen!
Scrooge
'Tis the Season
Let It Snow
The Winter Veil Gourmet
A Frosty Shake
With a Little Helper from My Friends
Fa-la-la-la-Ogri'la
Simply Abominable
Bros. Before Ho Ho Ho's
He Knows If You've Been Naughty

Kommentar von 202865

Just Got my pellet gun and started out with the Blood Elf's boss. Took me two shots to get a hit on him. one hit killed by the boss. I went in with my Winter clothes with a Diamond-tipped Cane. it costs me 4c for the repair. but its worth it. :)
On my dk, the avg. miss is about 1 in 2 shot, so its 50-50 chance to hit the boss for me. not sure about you guys, but at silvermoon, you can take two shots if you are at max range.

Just got to UC. the Eleveter door is open for 5 sec give or take. from the door way from the tomb to the eleveter door is about 4-4.5sec walk with your 100% mount. so if you dont want to get hit by the guard in front of the eleveter, go when you count 1 mississippi. :) you will either get into a elevator without a hit form the guard or get hit once or twice.
but becareful of lvl 80 elite guards... they hurt alot without armor. D:
The hall to the boss is hard for me. they hit very hard and I can only manege to pass 2 halls or section (w/e) at the time... :( running back is not the fun part of doing this.
Got her! but got killed by lvl 12 orc. :( i can pwn him if I was geared.... /cry moving on to somewhere that I want to go.

Thunder Bluff. Take the lift and try to sneak to elder square or something like that. from there, you can sneak pass the guards and head directy towards the boss.
when you get where the boss is, there is a lvl 40 fishing trainer, sneak pass by him and get in front of him. you have a clear shot of him
By the way, on my toon, the casting time of hte pellet gun is 1sec and i do not get interrupted when I get hit. i think blizz hot fix something. idk.

as stated above. Orggmar is the hardest to get. i mean, Vol'tin shoots you for 6k, 12k at crit. he can basically one shot you....
the hall between the trainer and the throne room is a good rezing place for Vol'tin, since you can bandage there without getting aggro from the guard. from there, you will get aggro by two guard, but have one shot of shooting at vol, either miss or no miss, you will get kill by vol unless your geared.
To get Thrall, you are require to stand where the body is on the link below my comment. you can take two shots from that position. at that position, you wont aggro Vol'tin, but aggro 3 guards. but you will still have enough time to take at least one shot on thrall.

Good Luck.

Good Hunting! and Merry Christmas!

Kommentar von MrKerf

the level 80 present

Not quite. I have the present on 2 level 80, and on 8 other low levels. The Winter Veil gift isn't a level 80 I think... I got last year's present on my DK before it hit 80.

Kommentar von Varthayn

Just putting it out there....This achievement sucks for clothies. I've been trying to go for Thrall for a while now and as a mage you're dead before you can even get a shot off. Doesn't seem likely that this is very soloable for many non-bubbling clothies. Possible. But with lots of strife.

Kommentar von Quaeras

Hunters can cast the BB spell through deterrence. I imagine that Paladins can also bubble through it.

Kommentar von Moleculor

I used 22 charges on my Red Rider Air Rifle to hit five bosses.

It uses a charge when you miss, when you get interrupted... hell, I even think it uses a charge if you're not in range or if the range changes while you're trying to fire.

Considering it's got charges, can't be used in any situation where you're not in range (and it has a dead zone, ala hunter guns) of an attackable target (i.e. Can't be used on your standard every-day in Ironforge with nothing but friends around you), I'd say this is my least favorite gift ever.

The fact that it's a gift at all somewhat surprises me. The fact that BB King is an achievement that awards points suggests that we may continue to get this gift every year from now on, as all previous gifts only award Feats of Strength. Either that, or expect this achievement to quickly become a Feat of Strength.

Previous gifts were used in friendly situations for friendly competition or fun. This has "KILL THE ENEMY!" written all over it, and it makes me sad.

Kommentar von 458613

Don't need to be in a raid. I've soloed all of them so far and am on my way to Cairne for the last shot. Lady was a bit of a pain in the but just getting to her throne room. The long, narrow corridor packed with guards got me dead a few times but once you are in there you should be able to find a spot where you can rez without picking up aggro and take your shot. Of course once you do that you will immediately gain the attention of everything in that room and will quickly die.

Kommentar von 504166

hey so if i accidentally sold my bb gun then left the zone, am i screwed on the achiev?

Kommentar von 369252

Cairne Bloodhoof = Thunder buff 60,52

Thrall and Vol'jin = Orgrimmar = 34, 37

Lady Sylvanas Windrunner = Undercity = 57, 91

Lor'themar Theron = Silvermoon City = 54, 21

Best wishes from Sylvanas server and a snowy sweden!

KK thx bye

Kommentar von 90531

This may be obvious, but you should use a macro to make it easier to target and shoot (after each target, update the macro with the name of desired target):

/tar Vol'jin
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

It's a pain, particularly with Thrall and Vol'jin, thanks to multiple folks resurrecting & pulling mobs one way or another, to select or keep the appropriate NPC targeted. Wait for someone to rez, get away from them, rez, then spam the macro.

Kommentar von Theodicus

Definitely one of the most pain in the butt quests in the game!

You should try to do this quest with a group that is doing the For the Alliance quest as you can cap off a few rounds from the Red Rider Air Rifle that you get as a present from under the tree on Christmas Day (Dec 25th) during the Winter Veil event. But if you can't find any raid groups on your server; you can do this quest solo. It's gonna take a few tries, lots of time, even more deaths and triple the patience.

You may choose to do this quest during the night time hours for lesser player population in the horde cities.

1. Get naked, leave all your gear in your bank. If you rez at the Spirit Healer in a graveyard; all gear in your bags will take a hit and end up costing you lots of gold for repairs. You're not gonna need to fight, so leave the gear behind.

2. Put on your most festive gear (any level 1 gear will do). This has no bearing on your health unless you can enchant low level gear. I have a few sets of banking gear with stamina enchants so it does help. But for this holiday season of Winter Veil - I chose to wear my Red Winter Hat, Red Winter Clothes & Winter Boots.

3. Bring lots of Healing Potions or Stealth Increases. You're gonna need them!

4. Travel to each Horde city location. Knowing the layout of each city is your best bet or you're gonna be running around a lot and dying. Obviously if you can stealth into each location, do so. Study the maps if you don't know where you're going. Find each Horde target and fire the Red Rider Air Rifle whenever you are in range of them. The item does have a timer and you can be interrupted if you take any hits. But you have 200 charges(shots), so no worries. (Add the Red Rider Air Rifle to a bound key or on your Action Bar for quicker access)

Thrall = Use the West entrance into Ogrimmar for easiest access. Follow the path all the way left to get to Thrall. The Hold is heavily guarded with NPCs and maybe a few players. So this is going to take a few tries to get close enough. Just run in the middle of the Hold room, target Thrall and blast away.

Vol'jin = This NPC is in Ogrimmar in the same place as Thrall just on the right as you enter the room. (See Thrall's paragraph for instructions)

Cairne Bloodhoof = Use the West Elevators to get into Thunder Bluff. The first elevator is your best choice as it has a clear shot to a path on the right that goes all the way around the city and puts you close to Cairne Bloodhoof. Use this path and you don't have to pull so many guards. Your target is easy to see and shoot at but make it quick.

Lor'themar Theron = Silvermoon City is pretty easy to get in, just mount up and ride through all the way to the palace. There are lots of guards on the way and around but there is an area right before you get to Lor'themar Theron that only has one walking guard. You can rez in that area and creep close enough to Lor'themar Theron to get off shots before they all get to you and kill you.

Lady Sylvanas Windrunner = Getting into Undercity is by far the most difficult to get to with low level gear on. Use the sewers if you have to. In order to get to her location it's gonna take a few tries (deaths) and the run back from the Spirit Healer is long. Patience is your best friend here. You can get all the way to her but you may be too close to fire the Red Rider Air Rifle so stay at the stairs that leads up to her location. Careful of the guard that is standing right there.

BB King complete!

And that's all folks! I did all of them solo and it took me a grand total of 2 hours and 10 deaths. (Since I was writing this post while I was playing).

Happy pluggin' the horde!

Kommentar von pingzing

Another thing I noticed when doing this achievement is that the BB Gun has a small chance to, instead of firing, shoot you in the eye, stunning you for three seconds ("They told you this would happen!"). The debuff has the same icon as Cheap Shot--for a moment, I thought an enemy rogue had gotten me before I read the tooltip.

Kommentar von drdoom5081

I didn't have a problem with any of this except for the guards have knockdowns, which can interrupt your shot. Just make sure you have them targetted before you res and spam the button. I was able to get off a shot at Cairne with 5 guards on me, so I got lucky there. I also think Vol'jin has a ranged interrupt, so you want to res out of aggro range of him.

Kommentar von 385261

I decided to skip this achievement. I finally got to Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, and I shot her 4 times. I missed every time, and she only got a "Startled" debuff. I never once got credit for shooting here.

Kommentar von Smuffy

I've made the achievement today and it seems to only count for it if you actually deal damage to them. special effects as "right in the eye" or "startled" don't count as a hit.

Kommentar von 504694

A rogue can Vanish in the corner behind Thrall

Kommentar von Jingoistic

The rifle does not have unlimited range. When trying to shoot Lor'themar it didn't become usable until i was on the top step leading down to his circle in the Sunfury Spire.... maybe 35 yard range?

Kommentar von Colie

Any hunter tried shooting with deterrence up? Does it work? I'd like to know because its rather painful to try it myself. :P

Kommentar von Gerdofal

An important note when trying to rez and then shoot Thrall. Due to lag, cooldown, or whatever... the BB gun will give several "not ready " messages. Unfortunately, the guards will aggro and be on you before the gun is ready. If you can, arrange to stealth in then shoot, that works better. At least you get your shot off.

Kommentar von 140679

ok, ok,

started this achievement yesterday, but without spending much time on it.
I had decided to start by the "quick" one as Thrall and Vol'jin seemed to be in the same room.

well, quick ? NO No NO.
after a few tries (and deaths of course), I decided to get back to normal life and get on with my Xmas day.... and got back to it later in the day. Still no luck.

I was pelting Thrall, or Vol'jin and again and agian... No pelting credit..!.!.!

Today, I decided to give it another go.
Tried Cairne Bloodfhoof in Thunderbluff.
Got there naked (or almost), and after 6 trials, got the credit.

I would not have a problem with this achievement, if only I understood why I am not always getting the credit.

Would it be linked to the HIT rating? and basically you would not get the credit because you would actually miss ?

That is the only acceptable explanation I can think about.

Have a lot of patience if you decide to go for it.
I will edit this comment with my results on the other bosses in the next hours.

Thought I give some cheering to the other players, in their misery.
LOL

Edit: after all this, I got him first try this evening. Did exactly as before, died exactly as quickly, so random or just hiting rate ?

Kommentar von 327545

just a little sidenote...u have to be a certain distance away (doesnt say exactly how far) from ur target to be able to use the gun...on thrall or vol'jin..if you don't make the shot the first time..chances are him and the million other elits in the room are going to swarm you before you're able to get another shot off..it took me a couple deaths..but i figured the best strategy is to get into thralls room before you die..then when u rez place urself in view of either thrall or vol'jin...target them...move back until the dot on the gun turns red..then move forward until it becomes white so u have enough distance between u and him..rez and shoot as fast as u can! as a paladin i bubbled once i rezzed..makes it a lot easier

Kommentar von 229626

Macro:

/tar Cairne
/tar Lor'themar
/tar Vol'jin
/tar Lady Sylvanas
/tar Thrall
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

Kommentar von 467673

Just soloed it with a Rogue. The same tactics will probably work with a druid in cat form.

You can pretty much stealth your way to any faction leader. You can also probably ride straight to the leaders' rooms, but that will cause you to die rather fast. I pretty much died in every capital, but it doesn't matter, maybe with Preparation this can be avoided in some places.

Vol'jin and Thrall were the ones that caused the most trouble. You get aggro very fast there, and the throne room gets pretty crowded. When you die, try to get in range of the 2 leaders, rather, have your corpse close to both. You can use a macro to help out, but I just targeted the leaders as a corpse and spammed my pea shooter as soon as I rezzed.

Good macros would probably be:

#showtooltip
/target Vol'jin
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

and

#showtooltip
/target Thrall
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

I think you would need 2 macros here, just to be able to switch targets faster. Same basic macro should work for every boss, just change the name.

For the other capitals the following macro should work:

#showtooltip
/target Cairne
/target Lor'themar
/target Lady Sylvanas
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

In Ogrimmar that method would probably not work, due to the close proximity of the 2 bosses. That's why you'd need the 2 macros there.

Have fun corpse running!

Kommentar von 196807

If you are a mage, use Mirror Image the moment you resurrect. All the guards will start to attack the images instead and you will have time to shoot the Air Rifle about 2-3 times (and pray one of them doesn't miss) before the images die and the guards turn on you.

Kommentar von wolf78

If u are a shaman you can set a Stoneclaw Totem down as soon as u rez and that will give u a little extra time to get the shots off too. It worked for me :)

Kommentar von 505738

Pallys can shoot while in bubble ^^

Kommentar von Laurathos

From an engineers point of view Cairne is incredibly easy, you merely have to stand as close as you can get, shoot, activate boots and run around the hut and off the cliff. Of course activating Parachute is an advantage once you're no longer standing on firm ground :)

Unfortunately this profession don't really provide help for the others, apart from a grenade stun for guards when you spawn, which can buy you the time needed to throw a shot or two.

Kommentar von 251567

Has anybody tried using Light of Elune here? This may be what I've been saving it for all these years.

Kommentar von Anamcha

soloable as N.Elf druid in Cat Form, balance spec. 80.

HINT: if you are having a really hard time try hitting barkskin, it will prevent the push back and save you a chunk of damage. sometimes not worth it (for example in org) as you get hit to much for it to make a difference and it takes the global cooldown so you cannot bb for a second. better in that case to just bb and hope.

~~~stealthed in to UC first through sewers after dropping all damagable gear in bank. made it all the way to sylvanas without dying, just make sure to go dead center between royal guards on the way to throne room (hint: when they "hear" you and turn to look but dont aggro, stop. they will turn back in a couple seconds then go forward and they wont see you). first time shooting sylvanas missed so ghosted back and res'd in throne room to try again and got her, died, and spirit res'd out.

~~~On to Silvermoon. Fly into Zul'aman and bolt your way to the gates. Pretty straight forward, ride up to the bottom of the steps leading to the throne room, then go into Cat form and stealth past the guards lined up outside without them even turning to look. Go into throne room and shoot Lor'themar Theron, die, spirit res out of the city.

~~~Next i tackled Orgrimmar. I went in the west entrance, stealthing past the guards. be careful as there is a scout with high stealth perception. just skirt WELL around her as she comes toward you and you will pass her no problem. if you come up to her from behind, do the same to pass her as you will be moving faster even while stealthed. after that its a cakewalk to the throne room. once you get there however it's a different story. just dash in past the guards as far as you can and die.

In the main throne room there are tiers with 1 elite guard on each tier, go to the tier behind the blood elves (they will not aggro you, east of thrall) target thrall res and hit him with the bb. Die and either retry thrall or head over to the corner of that tier and the tier closer to vol'jin. He seems to have very high agility it took me 7 shots to get him he kept dodging them. Be carefull that you stay in range of him as well as he will run out of range. you will probably only get one maybe two shots in before you die anyways.

~~~Lastly, Thunder Bluff. Take the north-east lift up (the lesser used lift) and stealth up to his level. ( i went via the elder tier, no guards worth mention and it deposits you right beside his tent) target him and slowly back up into the center till he is just in range. Shoot him and either dash over the side of the cliff (for a ghost res without res sickness) stay and let them kill you and then spirit res, or if you are an engineer go over the edge then use your parachute cloak.

Kommentar von 507541

Insanely easy to do as a prot paladin with decent gear. Keep your gear on cause you won't die/lose durability. For each boss just run up to them bubble when they come into view and walk up to range and hit them with the BB gun and run out. There's a nice spot near each leader you can run to to deaggro the boss/mobs.

For Undercity run into the little alcoves along the wall. The boss will deaggro but you'll have to kill a couple guards. Just use seal of light if you're low on health and you'll heal back up before they die. I like going in to the city through the sewers since that's the least amount of guards youll run through and the sewers exit close to the bosses room.

For Silvermoon city you can run out and to the left and hide behind a cart if you need to reset.

Ogrimarr was the most annoying achievement to do since there are so many guards and Thrall aggro's before you even get in range. I ran up to the entrance and when he aggroed just put up a bubble spammed the gun and then ran out and reset to do Vol'jin. You can run around the building to the left and hug the wall and all the guards will deaggro.

Thunderbluff you can deaggro the guards running along the south walkway behind the boss's room. I didn't have trouble with any guard in any city except for here since they kept stunning me.

Never died doing it this way and it was fairly easy. When I first tried soloing this achievement I kept missing or having range issues or getting stunned but once I started bubbling before shooting I never missed and hit the last three bosses without fail. Maybe it's a bug? The guards don't hit hard at all in full tank gear so I'd most definatly recomend running in in full gear. It's nice not having to corpse run :)

Kommentar von 344586

Links to the required NPCs:

Why rated down? I thought I was being helpful!

Kommentar von valakivi

Just a tip, if you are in the middle of tons of guards like in Thrall's room, while you are still a ghost queue a battleground then wait for the menu to get in the battleground, ressurrect and get in the battleground this way you save a whole bunch of ressurrection problems... in the battleground just heart home. Thats it i hope it helps.

Kommentar von 468233

For Thrall and Vol'jin:

I was able to solo these two as a gnome mage (BB King). It took me a while, as the BB gun isn't very accurate and has a cast time that is very easily interrupted. Make sure you bind it to an easily accessible key—it'll make your life a lot easier. The best way to get a good range and least amount of aggro is if you stand on the platforms and shoot from there. The guards on the floor take a while to get to you. If my first BB cast didn't work, I'd blast wave, frost nova, then try again.

Vol'jin:
I stood on the ledge to the immediate left of the room's entrance. Here's a view of it.

Thrall:
I stood on the ledge to Thrall's right (entrance left). Here's a view of it. He didn't even get up when I rezzed, so I didn't have to worry about him coming too close and being out of range.

Kommentar von 312269

L 80 Pally tank - so I can bubble and hearth which helps a lot.

Cairne Bloodhoof fairly easy.
Take main elevator up. Go to the right avoiding guard on bridge (or kill him) stay to right along path. One Pat on hill up, can kill him. When just east of circle in front of his tent I took invis potion and ran into circle. Face tent door (north) come out of invis, target C.B. shoot. Bubble & Hearth.
Remeber to check 'cheeve to see you got him. I did have one miss.

Thrall & Vol'jin.
Ride into city from side entrance in The Barrens, stay left to get to Thrall building. You can loose aggro from guards if you run past and hang out behind tree and north side of building. Go to front of building and take Invis potion. Run through first room, coming out of invis. Target Thrall and shoot, he will be right in front of you.
Now you have to die. Just stand there and get beat up.
Vol'jin is in the same room but NOT beside Thrall as I have read on other posts. He was to the right of the door as you enter Thrall's room. Run back and position yourself on Vol'jin's side of the room, watch for two Pat guards so you can time it when they are farthest away. Target Vol'jin, accept Rez, shoot. Bubble & Hearth.

If you are lucky like I was a Hordie was talking to Vol'jin, so I caught him off guard. After shooting and bubbling take the time to say 'gottcha' to very confused Hordie :) all the guards went nut's when I rez'd.

Lor'themar Theron.
Was also pretty easy, run right into city up to throne room? castle? entrance. You can loose any aggro behind the cart on the north west side. As mentioned in post above. This was helpfull because I missed my first shot so went there to rest. At entrance ramp use potion of invis - run to entrance of room, don't go to far in or range is off. Shot him then bubbled and ran out to cart. No hearth because I wanted to ride to flightpoint to get to Undercity.

Lady Windrunner.
This one was harder because I don't know the Undercity well. Took sewers in and ran about the Appocary(?) a bit while lost. Found I could easily take 2 or 3 guards without much effort so just started walking around. Found entrance to Throne room, (from sewer stay on main path around right side of green stuff, don't go into the Appocary) it's on your right. Walked in fighting 4 guards at once, went around right side of throne, shot her. Bubble & hearth.

Fun 'cheeve & only used 10 charges / shots total. Not sure why some posters say lots of misses.

Psjoe, Kargath

Kommentar von yashimii

As a druid I was able to stealth 3 of the 4 locations easily:

Lady Sylvanas in Undercity
Lor'themar Theron in Silvermoon
Cairne Blood Hoof in Thunderbluff

I have as yet not managed to pelt Thrall or Vol'jin. There are too many guards that are placed so that without improved stealth (maybe with!) it is impossible to stealth into their room. Since the gun has a short cast-time it has so far been impossible to pelt one of the leaders right after rezzing!

I will try again with improved stealth, stealth potions and stealth boots - if these are necessary at all.

Kommentar von 11769

Does anyone know if this can only be completed during Winter's Veil? Assuming I still have the air rifle afterwards of course.

Kommentar von 407004

can i still get this achievement after the event is over?

Kommentar von 297139

It is possible to solo thrall and vol'jin but you will die.
Go in accepting that fact.
Suicide run into the throne room... goes as deep as you can before dying.
Then rez on the 'shelf' along the wall.
Target Vol or Thrall before rezing... when you rez, only one guard (the one on the shelf, do not rez when the patrol on the shelf is walking by.
Then when you rez SHOOT one of them and prepare to die.
Do it again for the other....If you are lucky and rez just barely in pelleting range you can solo this during quiet times and 'only' die three times.
Good luck and happy hunting.

Kommentar von 468477

Ralphie: "I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle!"

Santa Claus: "You'll shoot your eye out, kid. Merry Christmas! Ho, ho, ho!"

Kommentar von Tuileven

Decided to do this since I was traveling to the Horde cities anyway for Elders of the Horde. Followed Anamcha's advice of standing by the blood elves in Orgrimmar, that was helpful--on the first try I stood in the middle of the room, cast barkskin and then shot, got killed before I could get a shot off. If you're a druid I wouldn't bother with barkskin. The hit probability for the BB gun must have been buffed or else I'm extremely lucky, because I went 5 for 5 when I did get a shot off.

Kommentar von zomg5

Does anyone know if this achievement will be available this Winter Veil (2010), as Thrall is leaving in Cataclysm? I'm a bit of an achievement streetwalker, and I didn't get to get the rifle in 2009.

as i assume thrall gets replaced by garrosh in the next winter veil event?

Kommentar von 66148

As of Cataclysm, this now involves different targets. Thankfully they're all in different locations so you don't need separate macros. Here's the new macro to use as you rez/unstealth:

#showtooltip
/target Baine Bloodhoof
/target Lor'themar Theron
/target Lady Sylvanas Windrunner
/target Garrosh Hellscream
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

Happy hunting!

Kommentar von Chirri

For those attempting to BB Garrosh, I'd suggest hopping up on to the little alcove to the right of his throne - it was the only place I was able to get a shot off without either being hit by so many NPCs that I'd die before the shot could go off, and without Garrosh running out of Line of Sight (and thus interrupting the shot I was taking).

There's an additional NPC in the room who isn't visible while you're a ghost - the Mystic at the base of the steps leading to his throne, on your left when you're facing Garrosh.

Kommentar von 398699

solo'd on my mage just this afternoon. completely annoyed at how many horde were camping me out by hellscreems room when i died. he was the hardest of them all. sylvanas was the first one i did, it was simple enough to get to her by flying mount. next was the blood elf boss, long corpse run after having invised by a guard that could see me lol. needless to say the thunderbluff guy was a joke. if anything he should have been my first target lol. have fun getting the achieve guys. but it IS in fact solo-able.

Kommentar von 266900

Just did all of them last night. They were actually pretty easy. There's a spot for every boss that you can stand outside aggro range of everything (at 85 at least) that will let you get one, uninterrupted shot off. I think I missed twice out of my opening shots; the annoyance factor for me was that every place I died had a ridiculous graveyard run, especially Undercity.

Kommentar von 671648

If you want to do this achievement during this year's winter veil, and you don't have the gun from last year, are you then @#$%ed?
Or is there any other "temporary" gun or something that you can use for this?

Kommentar von Fyara

agreed i was trying to complete all the achievements but i didnt get a gun :(

Kommentar von 671704

How do you get one of these guns 2010? Didnt get one in one of the christmas present.

Kommentar von AFitz

Just got a response from my ticket so I thought I would share it. Pretty disappointing.

Issue:

I did not get my Red Ryder carbine-action, two hundred shot Range Model air rifle with a compass in the stock and a thing which tells time. I asked around the christmas tree for the last hour and no one else has gotten it either. Is the achievement no longer obtainable?

Game Master (GM) Response:

My name is Game Master Halraethi and I receive the petition you put on this character. Thank you for taking the time to contact us about this. I want to let you know that even though you wree offline I looked into your inquiry.

BB King was an achievement for last years Winter Veil. This year instead of a BB gun, you get a remote controlled Zepplid.

If you'd like to speak to another Game Master about this, feel free to press the Need More Help button and we'll try to get to you as soon as we can, otherwise click on Message Read to close it out.

So tough luck everyone. Looks like it's not obtainable if you didn't get the gun from 2009.

Kommentar von 746306

Anyone who comes down to this post and reads the notes, let's put in tickets requesting a replacement item in the game so we can finish the achievement. (They did this for the crashin' smashin' rocket toy, stands to reason they can add another toy.)

Kommentar von Lucilite

I don't believe Pallys can use it while bubbled.
The ability has probably been changed since you posted (Hand of Projection specifically says on it that while the effect is on a player they can't attack or use physical abilities, though Divine Shield doesn't say that).

I got into Baine's tent in TB (as a ghost), rezzed, hit the hotkey for my bubble (Divine Shield), had Baine targeted, and spent 8 seconds spamming the hotkey I'd set the RedAirRifle to. Once the bubble ran out & I was insta-killed by guards, I checked the # of charges on my Rifle and it hadn't changed since before I'd rezzed there. Also the number on the action bar was red during that time, not white, which indicates the ability or item (e.g. the rifle) was not useable.

But I did somehow get 2 shots off during attempts prior to that, before I tried bubbling (and I only know I did because the charges on the rifle went from 200 down to 198).

Kommentar von 267631

There are now only 4 city leaders you need to shot with the Red Rider Air Rifle to get this achievement. Some have changed after Cataclysm started.
You are looking for these 4...

Baine Bloodhoof in Thunder Bluff now on the High Rise
Lor'themar Theron in Silvermoon City
Lady Sylvanas Windrunner in Undercity, located in the Royal Quarter (south from Apothecarium entrance)
Garrosh Hellscream in Orgrimmar

You can fly into most of these cities and do a quick shot before you will be killed. Note in Silvermoon City you can not fly in here as of yet.

Good Macro to use
/target Baine Bloodhoof
/target Lor'themar Theron
/target Lady Sylvanas Windrunner
/target Garrosh Hellscream
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

Kommentar von 57692

When I faction changed a while back I still had the BB gun from 2009 but for some reason it got removed when changing. The gm's couldn't give me back my item because they said after losing items in a faction change it can't be proven if it really was lost or not.
I love doing achievements but to lose out on this one because blizzard makes a mistake really let's me down...

Kommentar von Olindholm

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Kommentar von rubensm

So... why don't make it a Feat of strength?

Kommentar von Thortok2000

There is another way to get this for those who did not get it from 2009 Winter Veil. The toy store in Dalaran now sells the gun necessary. Also sells Red Rider Air Rifle Ammo (not yet on Wowhead) which recharges for 200 shots if you already own a gun but have used it up.

Kommentar von pie4all88

I can confirm that you can progress in this achievement now that this gun is available, even if Winter Veil isn't happening--I just shot Tyrande Whisperwind (I'm Horde) and got credit for it. Remember that it may take a few shots to hit the leaders since the gun can backfire on you.

Edit: Just got the full achievement.

Kommentar von eskilajnen

Rotes Erbsengewehr used for the achievement is now sold by Aufziehgehilfe and Jepetto Spaßbrumm both located in Dalaran. You can complete the achievement even if it's not Winter's Veil.

Kommentar von TimeTrap

This achievement can be completed using the Ride Rider Air Rifle purchased at the Dalaran Toy Store.

Kommentar von Kroyfel

A link to where you can buy the rifle:

https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=46725#sold-by

Kommentar von Giacomo

Silvermoon - easy, no horde around, run in shoot and try to run to safe place to die.

Undercity - fly in sewers to canals to Apothacarium, trun right in center tunnel - stay high and fly through Royal Quarter, land on Lady Sylvanas stage and shoot! Run back up hall and die. Rez in safe zone and hearth out.

Thunderbluff - fly to Baine's hut (big longhouse on center island), land about 20 yards from the front door and shoot! Die, rez near edge and fly away.

Ogrimmar - Dive bomb the main throne room of Garrosh, run in and shoot. This is the hardest, horde EVERYWHERE!

Kommentar von Talishunda

Is it possible to do this any time of the year? Or only during the holiday?

Kommentar von Aova

I was able to do it yesterday (2011.06.15); so it does not currently require Winter Veil to be completed. Bought the Rotes Erbsengewehr from Craggle Schlingerkreisel in SW and made my rounds in an hour or so.

Just be wary for when you accidentally shoot yourself Direkt ins Auge!. Stuns for three seconds--as though the guards need that much time.

Kommentar von Ocypete

Just did this today on my level 1 twink using the Red Rider Air Rifle from the Dalaran shop. It took a total of 10 pellets to complete so not too bad. Be prepared to do a lot of travelling as a corpse though at such a low level.

Kommentar von 795888

Hit tables apply. I do not recommend taking off all of your gear.

This gun seems to count as a spell cast.

This is the only conceivable reason I could find for it missing. I attempted this on my druid and elemental shaman both. While my druid missed atleast 2-4 shots per boss, my shaman didn't miss a single one with full 18% hit rating. Either my shamans incredibly lucky, or the hit tables apply.

In my opinion? If gold isn't an issue, the time saved with the additional hit is well worth the repair bill.

Kommentar von 42102

2011:

Red Rider Air Rifle (used for the Pelting) is now sold by:

- Craggle Wobbletop (Craggle Schlingerkreisel) in Stormwind
- Blax Bottlerocket (Blax Flaschenzünder) in Orgrimmar

Kommentar von ibechief

There is a minimum range for this BBGun! Please keep that in mind as once you pull the boss its over if you havent shot him yet.

Kommentar von 924033

I have not yet had the privilage of wasting my time trying to BB the other 3 leaders of the horde yet, as im still stuck trying to do Sylvannas. Just so people know what its like before they go in to pelt her dumb ass, some tips. First off if you try to fly in there the royal guards are retardedly op and will shoot the @#$% out of your ass and by the time you get in there youre likely to be at about half health. Next, there is an annoying bat flying around her, im not sure what idiots bright idea that was, however, wether ure in stealth or not u will aggro him instantly. Now as for pelting her, I died before I could even get to her so when i ran back in I tried to do it behind her and I was at the bottom of the stairs behind her platform with the bat attacking me and when I tried to run up them it wouldn't let me, some silly invisible wall or whatever so if you want to run up her stairs you need to do it from in front of her or from the side of her cause you cant from behind. Its also a cast and i hear it can miss too, enjoy trying to pelt her it will probably take a lot of tries.

Kommentar von 449048

Just for now, I shot Baine Bloodhoof for twice and didn't get it. I figured that I have to watch the floating damage number to go up before I died to get the credit. So the third time I made sure that there is a 1 or 2 damage done to the Boss before I died. Bam! Time to go for the next one.

Kommentar von sixxfoxx

As the Red Rider Air Rifle states for USE: Fire a (MOSTLY) harmless pelet. I think they are referring to MOSTLY as it not hitting the target hard enough to get credit for a hit! So if you can, I would and did, shoot the target as many times as you can before getting killed. Your are going to get killed, so plan for repair cost!

Kommentar von 824937

I just dropped my rifle from the reward for the WV daily.

Kommentar von jackal187

If you see this and are still looking for the "BB King" achievement check out the post by "Dearth" that is the one that has helped me the most and a little RL alcohol goes a long way. RL alcohol ='s (not caring how many times you die)

Kommentar von jackal187

I think Garrosh Hellscream is the hardest, however, his room is at the bottom approaching from the south at 48, 70.5 in the valley of strength. once you die enough and get close enough, as a ghost or stealthed get in the pocket to the left or to the right of him and as far in the corner as you can get. pop your ressurect and hit your bb gun. I would suggest doing this boss last.

Kommentar von jackal187

pocket..... I mean cubby-hole = behind and up

Kommentar von rpalmeri

I had a really hard time getting Garrosh. He, or the guards, would one-shot me before I could get off a BB. I FINALLY did it by trying various places in the room. I got him from the raised platform on HIS LEFT, standing right behind the second blue chest, in front of the crossed axes. This is behind the table with the axe on it.
You can target him when a corpse. Obviously, put the gun on your action bar, and Good Hunting!
Kortash, Sentinels server. Now on to Baine Bloodhoof.

Kommentar von rpalmeri

I had a really hard time with Garrosh Hellscream. If you don't stand in the right place, he or the guards will one-shot you before you can get a BB off. Stand to HIS left, behind the table with the axe on the raised platform. This is the table nearest him on his left. You can get off a shot there.
Good Hunting!
Kortash, Sentinels Server
PS As noted above, you can buy the BB gun in SW from Craggle Wobbletop. See
Red Rider Air Rifle for more on where to purchase the weapon.
and
Good Hunting!
Kortash

Kommentar von Tjaffe

Craggle Schlingerkreisel "Craggle Wobbletop" sells the Rotes Erbsengewehr that you need to Complete "BB king"

Kommentar von dakota3

To try to help someone who wants to complete this achievement as of patch 5.3, I shall try to summarise a lot of what has been said.

Tips: These are boss level NPC's, so there's a good chance you will miss once or twice - particularly if you elect to try the 'naked' approach and have no hit.
- Keybinding your rifle will help to get a few shots off in quick succession while you're in the process of dying.
- Don't stand too close to the boss, you need to be outside melee range for the rifle to work.*
- The rifle has a one second cast time, taking damage during the cast will delay getting off a successful shot.
- Doing this with two or more players makes it a lot easier. After your initial deaths, the other player(s) rez first and draw aggro while you get several shots in without interruption.
- Expect a hefty repair bill.

So, to get the achievement;

1. Purchase a Rotes Erbsengewehr from a toy vendor in Stormwind (Craggle Schlingerkreisel) or Dalaran (Jepetto Spaßbrumm and Aufziehgehilfe)
2. Don't forget to purchase the ammo (Munition für das rote Erbsengewehr) for the Rifle (Wowhead incorrectly lists it as not available to players)
3. Fly to the appropriate Horde city for your target and proceed as follows;

Garrosh Höllschrei
Hover above his headquarters (location 48.2 / 70.6) in Orgrimmar and locate the entrance on the South Eastern corner of the building.
Fly directly into the entrance, as you enter you will need to navigate around a small wall blocking the entrance and into the main hall. Garrosh will be on a throne directly opposite you as you enter. You will immediately start getting attacked by NPC's. Target Garrosh and fire your rifle. You will die.
If you didn't get credit (see tips above), corpse rez and try again.

Baine Bluthuf
Fly to the tallest totem in the middle of Donnerfels and land on it.
Turn to face east and you will see a long red roofed building below you. In the entrance, at location 59.8 / 51.6, you will be able to target Bain Bloodhoof before you fly into combat. Fly down to the middle of the clear area facing him and get a few shots off before you die.
As before, if you didn't get credit, corpse rez and try again.
Tip: If you're not familiar with this zone, it can be a pain in the butt finding you way back to your corpse to try again, so take a few minutes flying around to work out which lift you will use and roughly how you will find your way back.

Lor'themar Theron

Firstly either take the flightmaster ride to Zul'Aman in Ghostlands, or fly to the top of Eastern Plaguelands and ride through to Ghostlands. From there ride to the entrance to Silvermoon City. Take a moment to look up the map of Silbermond. You will need to make your way from the entrance to the northwestern corner of Sunfury Spire.

There's no quick way to do this that I'm aware of. You will just need to run in and try to pull as little aggro as possible. You will have to deal with various NPC's up to and including level 90 (obviously, if your class can stealth, do so. I did this on a level 85 human warrior, so didn't have that luxury).
Probably the simplest and quickest route is to head north from the entrance towards Murder Row. Then from there to Court of the Sun, watch for the level 85 pats alternating on either side of the fountain. As you go up the ramp to Sunfury Spire, you will see two rows of level 85 NPC's. If you can stealth, great. If not, you can try invisibility potion. If not, then kill them all - dying a few times in the process.
Finally, you will be able to make your way to the courtroom. Lor'themar is in the northwestern corner. Usual story, target, shoot, die. Corpse rez and repeat until you get credit.
If you encounter too many Horde players during the run, it's probably worth waiting for a quieter time on your server and trying again.

Fürstin Sylvanas Windläufer

Fly to the entrance to the sewer at location 51.0 / 71.6 on the Tirisfal map. If you don't have location finder, it's on the map as a tunnel entrance on the eastern side of the range of hills located underneath the 'O' and 'L' of Cold Hearth Manor.
Fly in to sewer and take the right hand (smaller) entryway when you get to the first chamber. Dismount and follow the hallway through a series of right and left turns until you find yourself in the main body of Unterstadt (I found no NPC's up to this point). You can now mount up and fly again.
Turn right and fly along the wall until you see a large series of steps leading into tall entrance you can fly into. Its in the Apothecarium Quarter at location 52.1 / 63.9 (or under the 'E' in Apothecarium on the map if you don't have location finder). You can fly all the way down the hall that leads to the chamber with Lady Sylvanas. Once in there, she's on a raised section in the middle of the room, surrounded by NPC's.
Target, land, shoot, die, corpse rez, try again until you get it. With this one it definitely helps to have another player rez and draw aggro before you try as the mobs pat very close to Lady Sylvanas.
This map showing the location of Fürstin Sylvanas Windläufer is useful to help you work out where to go once you're inside the sewer.

A thought that occurred to me after I completed this achievement, is that some of these Horde leaders exist in several different locations in the game. It's possible that you could pelt the leaders in much easier locations than their home cities and get credit for it. I'd be very interested if someone tries it and gets the achievement, to hear about it.

Have fun, and good luck.

*Thanks to Soulwrencher for pointing out that it doesn't work in melee range and you'll get a 'target too close' message.

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Kommentar von 751650

Killed by guards many times, and spent ~700 gold for repair :(
Be ready ...

Kommentar von 899157

I just did The Lor'themar Theron part of the BB King Quest. He rushed me and I could not get the shot off, so on my third try I positioned myself on the ramp behind him. He could not rush me fast enough. He had to go around to the the bottom of the ramp. I got 2 shots off before they got me. On to Undercity! Oh yea! I did this as a 85 Rogue.

Kommentar von Palathos

I had done the TB one some time earlier, so had the other 3 left. I tracked the achievement, so I could see whether my pelting succeeds. Also, I bound key 2 to the pelting on my action bar.

Someone started a For The Alliance group, and I went along to Orgrimmar. We didn't manage to kill Garrosh, but I managed to pelt him, before dying.

Then, most people in the raid left, and I was suddenly made the Raid Leader.

I suggested going to Silvermoon, and 2 other helpful people helped to recruit and re-assemble a group for this. It took some time to assemble the group, and we tried to misdirect the Horde by saying we're going somewhere else, although I had been recruiting for a while saying we're going to Silvermoon.

In the end, when we assembled the group, we went to Silvermoon, I pelted the boss there, and we managed to kill him too. Then a helpful mage made a port, and we were out of there.

Next was UC. There was some momentary confusion when we weren't sure how to get to the throne room. A helpful tactic is to get a rogue to sneak there and mass summon the whole raid in. It took a while to kill Sylvanas. I managed to pelt her and get the achievement, staying to kill her, and then it was mage portal out again.

Kommentar von 227386

I had the deuce of a time with this, so perhaps my experiences will help.

I had joined a Für die Allianz! group and had pelted four of the leaders (this was before Cataclysm), except for some reason I failed to get Lady Sylvanus Windrunner. I put it off for over two years, then in a burst of Achievement hunting, decided to finish this. It would, at the very least, give me a little more room in my bank-- I could get rid of the BB rifle.

The consensus here seems to be "go in with gear on to boost your Hit Rating, and take the repair bill like a man." With the large quest rewards Cataclysm brought us, I easily had enough to cover the bill. (Cut to the chase: It was 57 gold after dying three times.) I also scouted the route and the throne room with a Horde chara on a different server.

Being a Warrior, I couldn't much use Stealth. I mounted up and got as far as I could through the Sewers; I got halfway through that curving tunnel leading from the Apothecarium steps to the royal chamber. I then used an Unsichtbarkeitstrank after making sure I was in the corner of an abutment: in other words shielded from the previous set of Royal Dreadguards, but out of aggro range of the next ones.

So! I'm in the chamber, invisible-- until the Forsaken Bat detects me. It's easy to take down and isn't linked to anyone else. I wound up on the opposite side of the dais from the entrance tunnel-- which is a bad place to be. If you're close enough to shoot, you don't have line of sight. The advantage, though, is that you're unnoticable except by the bat, who you can take out without raising an alarm. Unfortunately I swung wide and attracted an Elite, but I resurrected at a better location.

The "better 'ole" was the steps to the right of the dais as you enter the chamber; it's where Sharlindra, Bragor Bloodfist, and Aleric Hawkins hang out. I resurrected on the fourth step from the bottom-- pretty near the middle of the staircase-- and a little left of the center of the stairs. I also waited for the bat to be at 3 o'clock (on the east side) of its circuit so I could res, pop a shot, and not have it aggro me right away. With the macro

/tar Lady
/use Red Rider Air Rifle

on several hotkeys, I revived and found that no one was attacking me! I forget but I may have had to move up a little. Still no aggro. The first shot hit her, I got the achievement, died spectacularly, and took the Spirit Healer's offer before hearthing back to Stormwind. A job well done, and it only cost a few precious hours out of my life! Plus the potions and the repair bill and the tedium of ghost running halfway across the zone, thrice!

Kommentar von Allakhazam

Here is an achievement guide I wrote:

http://www.^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!.com/world-events/winter-veil/bb-king/

Kommentar von too2fun

This must be broken, or sylvanis at least. i shot here 5 times in 3 runs back and it never updated the achieve..yet the ammo went down.

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