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629499
umm... no thank you. Damage shield back please.
评论来自
Midgetizer
So, this talent makes it so, by spending two talent points, we get an effect that we should (and did) get baseline, but was removed due to pvp-based complaints? Cool.
For those who have zero idea what I'm talking about, prior to a patch in WotLK (I forget which one), Shield Block doubled a warriors Block value, and, as of this posting, still does. What changed, however, is that the doubled Block Value stopped doubling Shield Slams damage, which was based directly on Block Value. Players thought it was too overpowered, and apparently Blizzard agreed, despite the fact it was only an issue in pvp. They removed that capabilty, and Shield Slam took a large hit to it's burst.
评论来自
660647
In cata, Shield slam will scale with AP, not SBV, as SBV is removed from WoW in 4.0.x. This simply upgrades our main threat/damage ability.
评论来自
mecheye
So, pretty much the way I read this is that when Shield Block is active, your Shield Slams always "crit", and when this improved Shield Slam "crits" you deal 4 times damage.
评论来自
83450
Looks pretty ho-hum to me.
How many Shield Slams will you get in during Shield Block? 1 if you don't get a S&B proc. You can probably count on 2, maybe 3 if you get good S&B procs.
Getting 3 double damage SS every 30 seconds doesn't make me want to spend any talent points in this.
If it read this way:
"Whenever you damage an enemy with your Shield Slam ability your Shield Block cooldown is reduced by 3 seconds up to a maximum of 9 seconds. In addition, while your Shield Block is active, your Shield Slam hits for an additional 100% damage."
Then we'd have a winner. But it doesn't, so we don't.
评论来自
skykid
I actually see thisas much for threat generation as a pvp ability, ironic considering the nerf it received some time ago.
Bliz wants every spec to be viable in pvp, and without this prot warriors would have poor burst, or dmg potential in general. I'm not sure what it's like at 85, but at level 52 with good gear, my shield slams can crit for well over 3000, which is often enough to one-shot people (who usually have no idea what just hit them).
It's funny how Bliz will fall back on something they deemed overpowered just to save the spec's usefulness.
评论来自
303615
I'd include this in a PvE build. The only part of the fight where threat is even an issue is the first 10 seconds, which is neatly covered by shield block.
Two guaranteed shield slams (although they're not guaranteed to hit, due to devaluation of hit and expertise) at double damage, plus a likely third and maybe more, means you'll have much less chance of losing aggro at the very start.
评论来自
Emberlock
Not really , it just gives it 100% more damage , Crits + Threat from Def stance count for alot more
I would have this talent give your Shield Slam 100% crit chance during Shield Block
评论来自
murdershot21
This talent is awesome for snap aggro on adds.
评论来自
xnihilo
Lovely
Skullflame Shield
Icon.
评论来自
696346
#showtooltip Shield Block
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam
评论来自
96527
The problem with that talent is that it tie the heavy hitting ability a warrior have with his bread and butter survivability skill.
The issue is that without it, shield slam hit like a wet noodle compared to other plate tanks hard hitting abilities (DS and SotR both hit as hard as HR Shield Slam and crit more often).
Now lets take occtular in mind (yes easy boss but it is only an example, it can be applied to any tank switch boss including raggy) as a warrior, you can either shield block after you taunt (or pull) to not lose agro on the critical points, or you can save it to the breath in order to take 20% less damage.
This talent prevent warrior tank from using his Shield Block as a potent survivability CD whenever dps/agro matters.
评论来自
Superchief
So this buffs at most 2 shield slams... every 40 seconds...
#1) Lets not forget threat has been buffed by 500% so it's not like you can lose aggro anymore. If you sneeze on a mob you're good on threat until it's dead. So that rules this out for PvE. What is this a 1% increase in dps?
#2) As far as pvp burst, the only practical situation would be if you are the flag carrier for a rated battleground team and want this 40-second cooldown 1% increase in single target dps. I pity the poor meat shields attempting to play prot in non-rated battlegrounds and arena.
This is one of those talents I call a necessary "skip for utility" talent. The reason talents like this exist is to trick lesser players into taking them.
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在你的盾牌格挡被激活的状态下,你的盾牌猛击会造成100%的额外伤害。
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0码
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0秒
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Apply Aura:Modifies Effect #2's Value (12)
价值:100
PVP 倍率:1
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