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评论来自 lordtryce

This feels like a an expension of the "Discovery Process" that Alchemist has in BC

评论来自 smiley001

Much like how you sometimes receive Scrolls of Recall when discovering minor glyphs, I assume that this has a +-75% chance of discovering a new major glyph, while it has a 100% chance of also creating random glyphs (somewhere between 2 and 5 judging by parchment costs) that you have already trained/discovered.

This last part will additionally be based on what you inscribed earlier that day, my guess is that you'll discover better things/receive more glyphs if you created lots of glyphs/incription items.

This is all just a guess though, I'll make sure to edit this comment appropriately once we know for sure :)

评论来自 Raiking

Does this share its cooldown with the Minor Research?

评论来自 ajz2k

I will now take the liberty to create a list of all discoveries known in this commentary page

OBS! It looks like you can "discover" glyphs that's otherwise trained from the northrend inscription trainers, I recommend all insribers to learn those major glyps from trainers before starting to use this in order to only discover "untrainable" glyphs

Glyphs wich are ONLY discovered trough Northrend Inscription Research:

Death knight glyphs

Druid glyphs

Hunter glyphs

Mage glyphs

Paladin glyphs

Priest glyphs

Rogue glyphs

Shaman glyphs

Warlock glyphs

Warrior glyphs

thanks to all who contributes!

评论来自 14128

Glyphs to add to that list

Glyph of prayer of healing

Glyph of molten armor

Glyph of adrenaline rush

Please note that I did not start researching until I hade trained all glyphs that was available from the trainer to minimize the chance of spending expensive mats on stuff that could be trained. Will update as often as possible.

评论来自 Moglok

Is it safe to assume most Glyphs of skill 400 and over are only available through Discovery? I have 431 skill now and cant see any of them at trainers.

评论来自 172743

Discovered Glyph of Growl (Druid) today.

评论来自 TeXeL

I'm not sure if anyone has an answer to this yet but here goes anyway.

I was wondering what happens once you are able to make all Major and/or Minor glyphs. Does the "Northrend Inscription Research" & "Minor Inscription Research" option become uncraftable? Would we still be able to craft but just simply be wasting reagents and getting no patterns, or would it start researching glyphs we already knew (thus still wasting reagents) ?

评论来自 Skez

Can anyone confirm that I'm just unlucky?

I've done the Northrend Inscription Research every day for 2 and a half weeks now and all I've learnt is to make glyphs that won't grant me any skill, grey glyphs that is.

评论来自 TormDK

My druid is at 420 skill now so I'm basicly looking forward to either getting one skill point per day on research, or crafting darkmoon cards? :/ Ouch.

评论来自 229204

does anyone know if we keep the researches if we unlearn inscription and pick it back up later?

评论来自 295405

I've run into a bug that when you use research immediately after creating anything, it wont actually do research, but will use the cooldown for both research abilities.

评论来自 303564

Glyph of Lightwell
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=42403

I just learned this from Northrend Incription Research.

评论来自 164723

I have just tried the Northrend Inscription Research and received only 2 x Scroll of Intellect ll with no new Glyph, on checking my addon "Recipe Book" and doing search this is telling me that I know 91 of 91 Glyphs = 100% so have not continued with the Minor Inscription Research. Can anyone tell me if the total Glyphs to be learned is 91 or are there more to be learned? Also only at 444 skill level, with the Darkmoon Card of the North still showing yellow is this the only recipe I can now skill up on to 450?

评论来自 98109

I am done as well. I have gotten scrolls but no discovery the last two times I did Northrend Inscription research. I did it twice just to make sure it wasn't a bug or latency messing with the discovery results.

评论来自 258974

Will research yield any of the 3.1 patch glyphs, or can you only learn them from the inscription books?

评论来自 111622

I am currently at level 405 and this is the only thing that is Orange to me. Just learned some new Epic Tomes, but I don't think I'll be making 45 of those any time soon. Is this Research currently the only way to get to 450?

评论来自 109245

I did this twice after 3.1 and I did not learn any new glyphs.

(I knew all the old glyphs + the new one from the trainer)

I guess it is true that you only get the new ones via Book of Glyph Mastery

评论来自 152009

Haven't seen anyone that's mentioned this so far, but you can actually discover multiple glyphs with one research, ie today i discovered 3 with my first research on a power-leveled scribe:
Siphon Life
Snake Trap
Shadow

评论来自 78808

Some of the math doesnt seem right because the search shows 341 total glyphs, with previous posts saying there are 213 major glyphs, 63 minor, then 57 from book of glyph mastery. 333 glyphs from this information, what am I missing?

评论来自 414961

I have learned 435 recipes in inscription. Is that all I can learn? I can't learn anymore from Northrend research or from the Books of Glyph Mastery.

评论来自 263112

I just did this and got 3 new Majors. Is this normally what happens? Would like to know. Thanks.

评论来自 KrazyCalvin

I had been wondering this for a while but I just maxed out my inscriptions. I hit 437 inscriptions and i literally bought every book glyph, shoulder enchant, inscription trainer things, and both researches. I am glad I'm finished with it and according to my wow statistics I have made -1606136646c from Auctions. For some reason it switched to negative a little bit after 200k gold. I love inscriptions so much. It opened the rest of the game for me.

They fixed this problem a while ago. Since this post I have made millions of gold through inscriptions. Thanks!

评论来自 79671

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Training cost: 10 <--- umm no ! lol snofall ink 10-20g ink of the sea 1-2g 5 parchemint 2.50g so minimum 15.50 minimum to 28.50 ! depend on realm price

评论来自 460447

Think that link is missing Soul Link.

评论来自 astariaxv

New glyphs learned in 4.0.1:

Glyph of Living Bomb

(Maybe more, will edit and update this post as i find them)

评论来自 Stone

Seems that this has had its cooldown changed since 4.0.1.

Used to be 20 hours, however, I experienced both an 8 hour cooldown earlier in the day and a 23 hour cooldown just moments ago (nearly 12 hours after the first research that triggered the 8 hr cd).

Could be a bug.

评论来自 313118

Seems to be very up in the air since 4.0.1.. I hadn't used it in many months after I'd appeared to learn all I could from it, but with all the new content in the patch I've been doing it as regularly as the (as mentioned above, highly variable) cooldown allows. First time, Living Bomb like xvkarbear, but after that one just a series of non-discoveries even though there are plenty of glyphs I still don't know.

Living Bomb is, of course, a prime glyph not a major, so for the time being I'm assuming the tooltip should actually read "... You are very unlikely to discover new major or prime glyph recipes this way."

评论来自 Naewen

This might be a coincidence, but I noticed that the cooldown on both this and Minor Inscription Research reset at midnight server time. After doing this at 9:23 server time, the cooldown was 14:37. When I did it at 17:01, the cooldown was 6:59. These times were the same for both this and Minor.

评论来自 Toxeia

At 385 this taught me 3 recipes at once. Need some clarification.

Is this because:
a) I hadn't used it before
b) My skill level is low enough that it proc's multiple discoveries
c) Just lucky?

评论来自 eddiebull

I do have a question. With the expansion (4.0.1.x, not cataclysm or beta) how many, total, recipes are there that you get from Trainers, Books (of glyph mastery), Northrend Research and Minor Research?

评论来自 313118

OK so we're clear what the CD is after 4.0.1, but the question still remains... does this actually give a chance to discover any of the new prime or major glyphs? I'd made all the 3.x discoveries months ago and stopped researching once all I got was scrolls. Post 4.0.1 my first research turned up Living Bomb, but every research since then has failed to discover anything new. I still have MANY undiscovered majors and primes, but if research is just a waste of good ink I'm assuming it's now worthless for maxxed scribes, and we just have to pay the outrageous AH prices for 雕文精通之书 to complete our sets.

评论来自 763569

Now normally I would never gripe about getting borked by the RNG. But I just did my first Northrend Inscription Research.

And created Enchanting Vellum.

That is simply absurd.

评论来自 rabhingm

After having done NIS every day with Ackis Recipe List showing only 10 more discoverable glyphs, my NIS would 'fizzle'. There would be scrolls made but no discovery was made. After checking on wowhead I saw that some of the glyphs in my list (for example warrior: 血腥治疗雕文) were discoverable through 小型雕文研究 I also checked whether I could still learn new glyphs through 雕文精通之书 which led to another discovery of a glyph.

Reported it to a gm and got following reply:
,,You'll be happy to know that your efforts are not for nought, and that there are more discoveries to be made. Of course it's not guaranteed that using the skill will give you a new one each time, just highly likely, so you may well get a few tries where you do not get a new one, but then you can try again later on.
So worry not and all the best with your discovery searching.''

Screenshot provided of actual GM message

As soon as I run out of 落雪墨水, I'll stop doing NIS and start buying 雕文精通之书 as I don't appreciate burning inks for a chance of scrolls meant for lvl 80 players.

评论来自 149504

The 雕文精通之书 are, afaik, independent of the discoveries. So there's no point in holding of on buying them.

Now I have to go and check with Akis recipe list to see if I really have all glyphs... I really thought the "fizzle" meant it had done all it could.

Edits:
I have all minor glyphs from 小型雕文研究, it never failed me before I had discovered all it could from it.
I'm missing 6-7 glyphs from 诺森德铭文研究, so far it has never failed a discovery.
I leveled inscription after Cataclysm hit.

I now have all glyphs; incsription research never failed before I had all discoveries. This has also been true for the glyphs that where added through the cataclysm expansion.

~~I do know however, from a botched attempt at inscription back in the wotlk days, that the discovery will "fizzle" if you do not have the required inscription skill to discover the remaining glyphs.~~
Apparently all glyphs discoverable from this require 385 inscription now. Whether some still need more to trigger, idk...

评论来自 Itami

Not currently on the research list here, but these recipes also come from research:
脱缰雷霆雕文
霜甲术雕文
持久圣令雕文

So the total recipes you can learn is 79.

I'll keep editing this post every time I research something not on the list.

Getting downrated for adding useful info? Stay classy people.

Edit again: Well with the MoP pre-patch, I don't play anymore have no idea what's in northrend research anymore or how it's linked to the other researches and books. Woo out of date!

评论来自 agressiv

FYI, even in patch 4.3, this does not unlock any of the recipes previously found in books that Blizzard said they'd get to.

评论来自 936426

After doing Northrend Inscription Research every day and using up all of my Book of Glyph Mastery's I could get, I am out of glyphs to learn. Minor Research dried up first followed a couple of days later by Northrend Research. Now when I try to learn a new glyph, I get enchanting vellums and scrolls. But so far, it has been a week and I have learned no new glyphs from either minor or Northrend. So eventually you will run out of stuff to learn, it just takes a long time. I checked what glyphs I knew to lists online of all glyphs available, and they match up with no unlearned glyphs. :)

评论来自 942176

After 10+ consecutive failed attempts to discover a new glyph with both Northrend and Minor Research, I decided to ask a GM about this. I was informed that the discovery spells only provide a low chance to learn a recipe that's supposed to be learned from the glyph books. Link to screenshot of part of the conversation below.

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评论来自 945247

I think they messed with the research abilities in a failed attempt to "cap" inscription lvling. A lot like JC, but at least they get the chance to make progress every day and aim for a new skill. We have a sort of wishing well system.

2 weeks, no new glyph.

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