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评论来自
6330
In a sense I do agree with Blizzard in nerfing the Felguard. However, not to such of an extent as they have. I've seen Felguards hitting for 300 at times and now a weak 90-130. While I hate comparing classes to other classes. Look at Hunters, their pets have taunt, charge, similar abilities as the Felguard and have just as much DPS and they don't have to spec into them. If the Hunter decides to spec into a tree which buffs their pet they get Beastial Wrath which...well, yeah, is similar to the Felguard & The Black Book. A small nerf was required but this...this just breaks it
评论来自
97
My Felguard is still hitting for around 200 easily, 350 normal crits, 500 cleave crits... I love my Felguard. I think he's simply amazing. Definitely going 7/43/11 at level 70.
评论来自
cyanidexpunk
I tested him out on Test server. Yes i know things have changed throughout the process of the test and everything. I definitely think he is a good pet. Once we can get to 70 i might respec my to my build I'm working on to make soul link with him and possibly some added stuff to bring that touch. He does awesome with intercept, which i used him a lot for farming on Test to try him in PvE, attacking enemies in PvP, and he looks cool :p I think until the expansion he is going to get a few complaints here and there and yes i think its a bit unfair that they removed the damage and completely destroy people with hunter pets now, but I guess thats how it goes. I mean honestly, i think a warlock is the one class that got it pretty good. We get a small nerf, but look at everything else that came out of it. All in all, the Felguard is a good pet for the Demo Lock.
评论来自
8188
I was a demonology lock before 2.0
(0/30/0) <- intended to go (?/31/?)
I was really thinking about switching to something like SM/Ruin or a Drain-Tank.
Then, I saw a warlock with a Felguard in Ironforge....
I am still a demonology warlock.
评论来自
hawkd
I'm disappointed to hear about the nerf to the Felguard, but you can't win em all. Unfortunately, for a talent only pet, it doesn't seem worthwhile, especially at 41pts. Though the demo tree is otherwise pretty good. I'm getting an additional 30% spell damage (more actually) from the pet scaling and my +stats gear. We'll see how that caries through the expansion in January.
评论来自
8271
The Felguard is kind of rigged. I saw a 60 Paladin with judgment set vs a 60 Warlock with tier 1 set and the lock won with the Felguard. Aren't Paladin's great now? Since the patch came out they've been awesome except for beating warlocks.
评论来自
8450
unless used for pvp i find your imp scubus and voidwalker normally the better choices
评论来自
7307
Wery-srtong pet... amazing pet!!!. Recomended!
评论来自
6934
As a mage(in current beta build) this thing is just as lethal, if not more, than a warlock with a felhunter out. It charges/stuns and dishes out a good amount of dps; add this to warlocks insta dots and it's GG game over.
评论来自
8506
in addition to the warlock pets this felguard has to be the best pet for any lock.... the felguard allows the lock to solo with ease. the felguard is also a great addition to a pvping warlock. this is a very recomended pet for any lock.
评论来自
8713
The Felguard is an amazing pet. He hits like a truck and with his ability to constantly raise his attack power as he goes (Demonic Frenzy) He only gets worse. He replaces the need for voidwalker with his Anguish ability and Cleave is just awesome.
Now... the Intercept ability. It's a very good ability but it works just like the warriors, and some may not know this but for it to work you have be at least 8 yards away from the target. So you can't send your Felguard out there until you're ready to intercept (or what's the point of him, might as well use felhunter and get more resists and ability to see rogues), or even worse what happens if the person you're trying to kill comes after you and gets in close, before you know it you have to stun them... but you can't!
Mostly I've seen the Felguard just running around and attacking people since he can do a crazy amount of damage. but when the time comes you may find you can't utilize him as you thought. So for PVP he is difficult to utilize effectively but for PvE there is no better substitute (unless of course you're crowd controlling or need to give your tank more HP)
评论来自
stbash
This pet is all around great its good in PVE beacuse it can take aggro really well and in PVP with the charge and cleave it can work well vs casters and to get Warrs of your self if you have him on DEF that is.
评论来自
Golgoroth
I'm sorry, but as for the Felguard's damage output, it's all comparative to your own stats. If you are wearing a random assortment of lvl50-55 blues, he'll probably hit for 100-200 and then some with Demonic Frenzy. If you have full Nemesis and are epic'd to the brim, Black Book and all, he'll be hitting just as hard as some of your guild's Warriors and Rogues do.
Also, Soul Link means +3% damage. Demonic Tactics means +5% damage. For both of you. The Felguard also has the most Stamina, and Intellect of any of your pets when combined. Pair that with Felheart/Nemesis 5/8 bonuses, and you have more spell damage than you know what to do with, due to the Demonic Knowledge talent.
The Demonology is designed to raid and solo, primarily. Hence why most of the talents give you stat increases that rely on lasting longer. Increased Stamina, and more spell damage over spell criticals. That is also why the raid sets give you bonuses to your pets. Now, when your pet is stronger, you become stronger in Demonology.
A Warlock in my guild has 5/8 Nem and 3/6 Warlord gear, and went for the Felguard. Using the Black Book, it single-handedly decimated one of our mages, who has about 5/8 Netherwind.
Put simply, we got Death Star.
评论来自
31337_
If anyone wonder what kinda damage it does now:
lvl 70 warlock with around +700spell dmg with pet and felarmor.
Against cloth: 250-350 non crit ; 500ish crit
Cleave (same asabove but +78dmg)
Low 200ish against plate
评论来自
jashin
As others have said, Felguard is a reflection of your gear and ability to fight.
This is my Armory Profile:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Jashin
Around 10,000 unbuffed HP, 1020+ shadow damage. My Felguard hits for 400-500 non-crit, then 790-850 crits, and 500-600 on Cleave crits. He is devastating and crits constantly. He easily adds at least 250 DPS when he has full Demonic Frenzy buffs.
评论来自
47377
lol....so your affliction but you have the felguard????? nice.......
评论来自
50996
this pet u want to get at lv 55 i have lved 2 locks with this spec and its the best at low lvs but at lv 70 its just a waste
评论来自
54074
just got my felguard today, he has a lot of armor, around 44% mitigation without my demon armor and i have demonic resilience so that makes it 60% against melee i think.
his health is ok, i have 2.8k health and my felguard has 2.7k, although his mana pool is about the same as his health, my mana is around 4k though.
only problem i think, when you spend the talent for the 41 point felguard and you have to buy the grimoires for level 50 for his taunt and cleave.
also he uses up mana quite fast with his taunt and cleave, i'd reccomend getting Mana Feed talent for grinding with him
评论来自
52770
All Who Think Felguard is Weak plz shut up:)
this is at lvl 70 (im not orc :) )
He is even more powerful than a Sucubus+VW. cause u just see the spells and suggest who is better. but in game u will see its IMBAaaA , he hits for around 300(with my 800 shadowdamage gear and 650 firedamage gear) and crits for 500 with nonecleave , but cleave hits for 400 crits for 600
this is with 0xDemonic frenzy
My Nasty Sucubus hits for about 200 and with his rubish spell that deals about 150(each 12 sec , no one gets that talent to reduce the cd)
i think u know what the f,,,k is Void walker !!! he deals for 80-100 (i didnt test with consume shadows buff but still useless) and his taunt threat value is exactly the same as Felguard.
Felguard is the best thing for leveling+grinding+farming , Thats it :))
评论来自
50996
ya mana feed is rly good and hes rly nice when u get up to 70 and have nice gear on. some say hes not all that good anymore but he is i can get 1k crits with cleave and that charge is rly nice to. this spec is not rly good for geting top dps in raids and groups like AFF locks but its one of the best if not the best for pvp. 20/41/0.
评论来自
frmorrison
This pet, along with some buffs becomes a powerhouse. With just 5x Sunder Armor and Blessing of Might, he does about 200 sustained dps with about 2000 attack power.
The only bad side is you have to make sure he is on the rear of your target and sometimes you have to heal him.
Also excellent for PvP with his 30 sec cooldown stun and 50% AoE avoidance.
评论来自
18835
I've head that the felguard picks from a list of weapons when it is summoned, can anyone tell me the list of weapons it can choose from?
评论来自
70425
I thought that felguards can only have axes.. atleast all the ones ive seen have had axes..
评论来自
frmorrison
Here are Warlock pet's scaling factors:
57% of highest +damage school is added as attack power.
15% of highest +damage school is added as spell damage.
30% of stamina is given to the pet.
30% of int is given to the pet.
35% of armor is given to the pet.
40% of resistances is given to the pet.
评论来自
40551
If you're curious, it appears that his weapon is an
Arcanite Reaper
lookalike. Veteran players may remember the fear that such a weapon once induced; the Felguard carries on that legacy!
评论来自
55393
if u like demo, be an orc, the command racial totally fills the hole of the demonic tactic nerf a few patches back.
ps. with a black book, he pwns
评论来自
76512
I know that this doesn't belong here but I'm crying my ass off (CMAO) because my lock is a human:( Gnoez with Felguardz are so ZeXy!
评论来自
55393
anyone who is a die hard demo lock should possess these two trinkets.
1) the black book
2) Void Star Talisman
these make your felguard an unstoppable force. and by the way, u can still hide on the tip of the mine entrance in AB, and sic ur felguard on nub hordies, though it despawns sooner of later.
评论来自
1515
As an Alliance Warlock, I leveled all the way to 55 with an Affliction build. However, at around level 45 I noticed that my Voidwalker had great difficulty keeping aggro, and even at 50 with his new rank of Torment mobs would still start attack me at around 40%. This was with only a couple of DoTs and Drain Life so I was certainly trying to lay back a little on the attacks, but it didn't work.
I eventually became so frustrated that I decided to respec to a Felguard build. And I must say; he's incredible. He only as a little bit more health then I do, but his damage output is insane and he never loses aggro.
As far as leveling goes, using a Felguard build (with 2/2 Improved Health Funnel and 3/3 Mana Tap) is, in my opinion, the best way by far to get to 70. Once you hit 70, Affliction might be the better choice for raiding and PvP, but as far as leveling goes, this bad boy surpasses all other Warlock builds.
If you do plan on respeccing for a Felguard, wait until 55 so you can get instant cast Corruption.
评论来自
Zamfix
For all you felllow raiding warlocks out there, an interesting felguard raiding spec and guide/information:
http://www.wowmb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17405
Linked to from:
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t17008-warlock_pve_raiding_compendium/
评论来自
89407
This little slave is
ûber
in 5vs5 arenas. Also good in 3vs3 if you teamed with a good burst class, except healer ofc. Curse of Tongue with auto-cleave + Intercept will force healing Paladin & Priests to freak out.
Also never use more then 1pt in Mana-feed if you only going for PVP & raids. His taunt-ability is only a waste of his mana, at lvl 70. Go bolts!
评论来自
124096
I love this Demon, but the only problem i have with him is the fact that i find myself healing him more then i did my Voidwalker. Don't get me wrong he is one of the best things about being a lock, but still don't forget your Voidwalker he is still the bomb.
评论来自
158862
what pet is better the felguard or the person summoned by ritual of doom??
评论来自
176454
Felguard poem:
'm jealous of every Felguard
Underneath the sun
I don't wish I had a Felguard pet, no
I wish that I WAS one.
Oh I wish I was a Felguard,
with bad teeth and spiky back
With a charge that doesn't miss
Whenever I attack
To be able to enter combat
With a bar full of blue rage
to start shooting off specials
the very moment I engage!
To wield a mighty 2H axe
without worry of the cost
A felguard isn't 'normalized'
so no rage there is lost
And to fight my foes half naked
without a speck of fear
Oh to be a felguard
un-dependent on gear!
Sure I'd be a warlocks slave
won't bother me in the least
No different than things are now
I'm shackled to a priest!
So Blizzard if you're listening
(Yeah right, we've no such luck)
I wish I was a Felguard
So then I could cease to suck.
评论来自
177671
...and he totally looks like EVA-01 on the spell icon. That's neat.
评论来自
Johnsom
This guy will make your warlock a leveling/grinding machine, although not entirely until level 59 so you can snag imp life tap and life drain. True he takes more damage then the ole Vw but if you cant kill a few mobs within the health bar of this thing you outta be playing a hunter (you can go afk while autoshot and your pet will do all the work).
if your not doing it already this is what you should be doing to kill mobs.
dot, dot, dot, life tap, drain life, wand trust me you can stop buying water from 59 onward.
评论来自
180351
Idk which to choose between void or felguard. Void can heal himself and take more dmg but felguard does more dmg and looks awsome.
评论来自
191258
imp=bad
felguard=good
SO worth talents in demonoligy and onley costs 1 soul shard
评论来自
176454
Felguard poem:
I'm jealous of every Felguard
Underneath the sun
I don't wish I had a Felguard pet, no
I wish that I WAS one.
Oh I wish I was a Felguard,
with bad teeth and spiky back
With a charge that doesn't miss
Whenever I attack
To be able to enter combat
With a bar full of blue rage
to start shooting off specials
the very moment I engage!
To wield a mighty 2H axe
without worry of the cost
A felguard isn't 'normalized'
so no rage there is lost
And to fight my foes half naked
without a speck of fear
Oh to be a felguard
un-dependent on gear!
Sure I'd be a warlocks slave
won't bother me in the least
No different than things are now
I'm shackled to a priest!
So Blizzard if you're listening
(Yeah right, we've no such luck)
I wish I was a Felguard
So then I could cease to suck.
评论来自
124694
I was surprised no one had linked versions of the Felguards spells. WOTLK max rank linked for all spells. I've never played FG spec, so it's very possible I missed one.
Intercept
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=30198
Anguish
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=47993
Cleave
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=47994
Avoidance
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=32233
Demonic Frenzy
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=32850
As a warlock, I was interested in actually being a pet class in raids. Raiding info from TBC all stated that 2/5 T5 and Void Star Talisman are essential tools to raid successfully as a Felguard spec for survivability. Since my druid has become my main (yay healers!), it was nigh impossible to achieve this gear on my lock.
With WOTLK and having 61 talent points to spend with reasonable gear (1200 spell damage), Felguard is looking like a very nice way to get to 80. I enjoyed the complexity of affliction spell rotations in raiding along with the soloing and farming ease, but regretted the fact that the imp never did anything for me besides follow, blood pact, and mana regen. I detest the Shadowbolt spamming raid spec, even though it makes it ridiculously easy to top the damage charts.
After seeing a warlock in mixed blue, epic and pvp epic gear hold about 800 dps in KZ with constant pet deaths, I'm convinced that Felgaurd will be able to do decent damage, along with the Demonic Pact
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=47240
raid buff, will make demo a fun, competitive and still challenging spec to play. I hope blizzard stays true to their pledge and balances all specs in WotLK to be equitable damage.
评论来自
176454
Felguard poem:
I'm jealous of every Felguard
Underneath the sun
I don't wish I had a Felguard pet, no
I wish that I WAS one.
Oh I wish I was a Felguard,
with bad teeth and spiky back
With a charge that doesn't miss
Whenever I attack
To be able to enter combat
With a bar full of blue rage
to start shooting off specials
the very moment I engage!
To wield a mighty 2H axe
without worry of the cost
A felguard isn't 'normalized'
so no rage there is lost
And to fight my foes half naked
without a speck of fear
Oh to be a felguard
un-dependent on gear!
Sure I'd be a warlocks slave
won't bother me in the least
No different than things are now
I'm shackled to a priest!
So Blizzard if you're listening
(Yeah right, we've no such luck)
I wish I was a Felguard
So then I could cease to suck.
评论来自
177733
for some strange reason my felguards health never really increased so much over my leveling, so right now at 70 i have 7.5k health un-buffed, where as my felguard only has about 4.5k which makes it horrible to use for anything really in pvp is can get godamn one shotted and for pve its terrible as well! i dont know if this is a bug or what ever but it has completley ruined the demonology talent tree for me.
评论来自
259849
you know you can go to your talent tree and just go in a stait line down so you can get a felgard fast and turn into a fell gard and go to wow armory to look at your and other players stats and other things
评论来自
Yukazi
Would you like to see how destructive a force Felguard can be?
Glyph of Felguard
Demonic Brutality
Demonic Frenzy
Kibler's Bits
Scroll of Strength VIII
(Add
Hysteria
/
Battle Shout
in for some spice should there happen to be a DK / Warrior around)
Not enough? How about some
Demonic Empowerment
?
Maybe read a few passages from
The Black Book
?
Edit:
Thanks to
noobi666
for reminding me of The Black Book!
评论来自
262633
so now that there is no demon trainer, how do i learn to summon a felguard?
评论来自
294742
I just popped lvl 50 and Felguard was my obvious choice. My dream have come true!
I just love too see my little darling cleave their faces off... My own little version of Saurfang! :D His damage is awesome and I wouldnt trade him out for anything in this world...
- Thrilled DN Lock!
评论来自
241623
I hear everyone complaining about the Felguards mana.
I only got 1/3 Mana feed, and whenever Felguard needs mana i just dismiss/resummon the old coot. it works fine for me. Not sure why no one else has commented on this.
评论来自
306438
As of patch 3.0.8 a Felguard can put out 600DPS with a blue geared warlock, not including crits and cleaves, while completely unbuffed. 25man Raid buffed, he can hit 1000DPS. This demonic truck also received a large HP buff and improved scaling, thus is far more viable for PvE, and is quite deadly in PvP without your support. Thus, in short, he has been buffed hugely in 3.0.8 patch.
评论来自
demoftw
I have near 25man naxx gear and my felguard with all raid buffs up, 10 stacks of demonic frenzy and demonic empowerment he does about 1400 dps without adding cleave. he also has 15k unbuffed health thanks to patch 3.0.8. It kinda sucked before that when he only hav about half as much health as i did >.<
评论来自
Slayers
This is just like the voidwalker strong armor agry leaves after a while.
评论来自
146819
There seems to be a very weird bug of some sort attached to his Intercept ability.
If he's attacking something and another mob starts attacking you, he will use Intercept on the one hitting you without even being told to do so (if Intercept is off CD).
评论来自
315859
http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/page0015.aspx
Felguards have a sense of humor :)
Who'd have thought?
And by the way, the reason why he says things like "Your time is running out" and such is because he has the same soundtrack as the Doomguard who's enslaveable, but turns on the Warlock after the Enslave's finished.
评论来自
210895
The Felguard is an amazing pet except the fact it only has 3 abilities on it's bar that blank 4th spot bugs me to no end.
评论来自
363472
why my felguard isnt holding Arcanite Reaper? is it bugged or somethink?....pls let me know
评论来自
makron
With this and Metamorphosis you've got 2 unavoidable stuns. Cooldowns are not short, and both require positioning, but they are both real stuns.
Also note that on 80 felguard has no problem with doing 2k cleaves, which is quite impressive when it is comming from a pet.
评论来自
441195
I'm not sure when this was changed, but my Felguard seems to be using Armageddon instead of the Arcanite Reaper. Not that I mind, but the Arcanite Reaper made him look 10x more awesome. Sigh.
评论来自
336419
This is for you keyan!
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/talent#IZ0GchkAkizsguIoVMhqb:oNpV0m
评论来自
456118
everytime i try to summon my felguard it say he has summoning disorentaion for 2 days and he wont move so when i went on two days later it still said 2 days left for duritation. i have duel specing and demonology is the second spec if that matters at all. if anyone knows how to fix it please let me know.
评论来自
341193
Should have a battle yell.
"Arcanite reaper, hooooooo!"
评论来自
lectrick
I love this pet. 1800 spellpower at lvl 78 (that took some work!) and he rapes face in the battlegrounds. Nobody pays any attention to the pets until they realize 2/3 of their health is gone. Then it is too late as my 400 resilience is shared with the pet 100% with the latest patch (thank you, level 78 craftable PVP set!)
评论来自
517681
Dudes what skills does he have? beacause im very interested this is my first warlock
评论来自
Railander
Now I don't know which is a reference to the other but I was just zapping channels when I passed by a channel (Warner?) broadcasting Charmed just when some crazy smoke said "Who dare summon me?" and after the woman replied he said again "What do you want?". I am almost 100% sure they are both Felguard's sentences.
评论来自
510319
they should give the felguard whirlwind that be so awesome
评论来自
510319
they should make a spell that lets you control your pet like a hunters
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=1002
评论来自
snap0pans
i have 41 point and i have spec demonology, but i can't find "summon felguard" in my spelbook :S plz can anybody help me?
评论来自
339146
In PvE Felguard vs Imp.
Imp is in FACT the BEST pet for demon spec.... yes you need to put 3 TPs in Improved imp and 2 TPs on demonic power and Glyph yes its worth it.
My imp does 1200 DPS (self buffed) and 2-2.5k DPS in 25 man raids (spamming 4-6k firebolts every 2 secs with 65%+ crit ratio is no joke...)
IMP>>FG why?
Most Versatile pet in game: In fights like Onyxia or Mimiron where you have to DPS a flying boss...... Imp>>FG
(FG is soooo Stupid, he will get hit by onyxias tail all the transsition shes grounded and will never hit her while shes flying....)
No Miss if you are hit capped (FG misses even when Capped)
No Glancing
Won't be Blocked
Won't be Parried
More Crits, more Uptime on DP
Demonic Empowerment on Imp is WAY better than it is on FG
Imp Benefits more from your personal buffs:
CoE (13% more dmg)
DP (10% of ur SP)
ISB (5% crit on spells)
FG crit ratio is about 15% if 2/3 IDT (Imp Demo Tactics)
Imp Crit ratio is about 69% with 1/3 IDT
Only down side I see to this is the loss of 5% to my SB spam and Corruption Dot, which is not big at all since it inc my crit chance on MC Incinerate/Soulfire procs.
Final Summation!
SoulFire Crit chance at 82% is a dream come true with IMP!
57% crit (raid buffed)
+5% from ISB
+5% Pet
+15% Molten Core
=82% crit on Soulfire when MC!
with a pet that will ALWAYS Hit or Crit! and will NEVER EVER be Blocked or Parried and will never Glance or Miss!
Check my spec Same name in Sen'jin, Test it and insert your opinion <Here>.
评论来自
571903
I don't know if i'm the first to notice this but the icon for this spell is VERY similar to EVA-001 from evangelion.
评论来自
401374
am i the only one who think of an eva when i see the icon for felguards?
评论来自
561250
From the looks of it, the felguard will become available as soon as you put one point in the demonology tree in Cataclysm. If they keep this, demonology will definitely be the best leveling spec hands down.
评论来自
596907
Apparently the Felguard, or at least mine, is a female! Look at what an NPC shouted when my felguard Chinilvegen killed Khit'rix at Valhalas:
"Khit'rix the Dark Master has been defeated by Chinilvegen and her band of companions. Let the next challenge by issued!"
I was surprised, to say the least. xD
评论来自
selvermoon
damn fel guard at level 10 now?
评论来自
themguyman
the felguard is one of the best pets for solo tanking. as only a lvl 65 warlock i don't know how it does in heroics but in normal it does great dps and can be used if the tank dies for a while but can't take a whole boss even with heals but if that happens then you should summon your voidwalker since it has more health and has a better taunt
评论来自
Chainsaw98
I've got and interesting bug.....old felly is full HP and mana, get on my mount, get off and he's half HP and mana.
评论来自
211544
I play all my (records?) backwards!sdrawkcab (?sdrocer) ym lla yaly I
What? you don't get it? Isn't that what the Felguard says after going into combat?
评论来自
561234
The greatest thing about cataclysm?
If its not armadillo pets, its definitely felguard at level 10.
评论来自
PinktheDK
Well, no point in playing a Warrior any more.
We're so bad Warlocks get a better one as a PET
评论来自
Samaal
Felguard at level 10? Awesome.
评论来自
Broozer
Is it me, or did Felguard loose his taunt ability? (apart from Cleave offcourse).
It used to be my solo pet, but i get agro in a few seconds now, since he cant taunt like void can.
评论来自
nihmue
the Felguard also has one of the the best lines when summoned:
"I play all my records backwards, sdrawkcab sdrocer ym lla yalp I!"
:D
评论来自
Silverado
Who dares summon ME?
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Nivrax
From Exodar Holographic Emitter:
Felguard
Species: Mo'arg
Affiliation: Burning Legion
Function: Standard Soldiers
Conscripted from the mo'arg race, these warriors serve as the Legion's rank and file soldiers.
They are fearless and unwaveringly loyal to their master's godlike will.
评论来自
687131
For those sad about the loss of his taunt, just have him use
魔刃风暴
. It generates a ton of threat and if that's not enough for you, you do have
灵魂碎裂
.
评论来自
lessthanzero
I noticed the abilities linked in the comments are out of date. Here's a link to Felguard Abilities:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spells=-3.9.761
评论来自
156062
So our intent is to make the single-target DPS close, but the Felguard remains the best AoE pet. Oh - and Grimoire of Supremacy allows you to upgrade your Felguard into a Wrathguard. (It was just missing from the tooltip in Blizzcon)
from
http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/class-balance-qanda-warlock/
评论来自
918418
is there any better pet that warlock can summun in other servers after 2.4.3?
评论来自
guatafu
These are the Felguard abilities.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, this is all nice and good, but to need 40 points in Demology means that you either have nothing in anything else or you never get the Felguard.
At level 50 with only 13 demonology points the 28 needed more points to get the Felguard, well do the math. It ain't gonna happen. So much for a nice pet.
Can't start over, don't want to create and develop a new Lock. Too bad I didn't see all this until now.
CRAP this is just plain lousy. So I will live with my Void, like him better than the rest, Felunter would be good but he doesn't aggro MoBs and hold them as well the the Void does.
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评论来自
Allakhazam
how and where do i get it please
评论来自
Allakhazam
Any demonologist warlock has probably noticed the fact that the Felguard is the only "permanent" warlock pet to continuously threathen the master with death, doom, and so on. Also notice the angry quotes "Who dares summon me!" and "You cannot command me!" upon summon, as well as the plain weird "What happened to your friend?.." The reason for that is that Blizzard was lazy and therefore the quotes of the Felguard are shared with the Doomguard which must continuously be enslaved to maintain control, otherwise he becomes hostile. To summon a Doomguard one of the ways is Curse of Doom, the other one is Ritual of Doom which requires you to sacrifice a party member (thus the quote, "What happened to your friend?..").
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ill get this pet in 2 levels, cant wait for it! =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is all i can say:
imp: sucks crap
voidwalker: awesome
succubus: PVP yes...... PVE no
felhunter: cool
felguard: FICKEN AWESOME!
infernal: never got to try
doom guard: never got to try
enslaved demons:........... miss to much
评论来自
Allakhazam
What has best aggro. I've been told VW AND Felguard both have AOE taunts. True? Who can keep best aggro.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I started a warlock recently to become my main and I'm really unsure if putting 41 points into demonology is worth getting the Felguard.
Anybody got some good advice for me?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, in reality, if you put 41 points into demonology a few key points to get on the way are the one that sacrifices the demon for a buff, the one that buffs you while you have a demon, and Soul Link.
here's how demons go:
Imp - Works best if you have a tank with you. Really all you can do is sacrifice it. If you've got a firestone out then, it's 15% inc fire damage, along with whatever your firestone gives. Then you can drop in rain of fire and hellfire for way more damage.
Voidwalker - Very good for soloing, or if you're in a party with other casters and want a pet tank. AoE taunt and the channel heal they have for themself are very useful.
Succubus - Also works best if you have a tank, as you can sacrifice for 15% shadow inc, or for PvP. Once you hit 50, run the Felhunter instead because the succubus will push aggro off onto someone else.
Felhound - Semi-good tank pet, can eat magic effects for it's own health. Really haven't used it much... If you have five points in the buff thing then while the hound is active you get +1 to all resistances PER LEVEL!
Felhunter - Massive damage, good at tanking... yet again haven't used much...
Hope i helped.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hey guys im just wondering which guy is better to have a infernal or a felgaurd cuz some ppl say:felgaurd does more damage and some ppl say:infernal is much better so i also wondering who does more damage
评论来自
Allakhazam
oops. nvm
Edited, Jul 1st 2007 10:11pm by exitwound
评论来自
Allakhazam
IMO, if you really want a good pet go with the full spec in demonology. I did a comparison between the VW and the Felguard, in regards to both aggro and DPS. They both hold aggro extremely well, however the Felguard's damage is immeasureably better than that of the VW. It's like having a warrior as a little buddy to walk around with you. If you were already pet heavy (like I was and still am)there is no better route to go. However, if you are a "get into the fray" sort of person this is a waste of your talent points. I can run an instance without a tank and easily keep the party from wiping.
评论来自
Allakhazam
im confused i thought this was a talent in demonlogy or do u just get it at lvl 50
评论来自
Allakhazam
Felguard no longer does as much damage as he used to :(
World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.0.3 (01/09/2007)
http://worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p01.html
Warlocks
* Melee damage of "Felguard" has been reduced.
* The damage increase component of "Soul Link" has been improved. The damage mitigation component has been reduced.
* The cooldown of "Shadowfury" has been reduced to 20 sec, from 1 min.
* The mana cost of "Soul Fire" has been reduced by approximately 45%.
* The feedback from dispelling "Unstable Affliction" is now affected by "Shadow Mastery".
* Pets will again have their mana reset to full in addition to their health when first summoned.
* "Demonic Resilience" will now properly reduce pet damage taken.
* Fire objects in the game world (bonfires, braziers) will no longer trigger "Nether Protection".
* When a Warlock is under the effects of "Backlash" and "Nightfall", only one of the effects will be consumed by a "Shadow Bolt" cast.
* The bonus that the spells "Corruption" and "Curse of Agony" receive from bonus spell damage effects has been decreased by approximately 10%.
评论来自
Allakhazam
There is no quest for the Felguard. If you are a demonologist warlock, it is the talent you can get if you have spent 40 talent points. The minimum lvl for this is lvl 50. But i dont get why it is listed on the main spell list- only demonologists can get it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You all rambled on about how good the Felguard is but nobody said what the steps or quests are to get the skill to summon one. This post is called "SUMMON A FELGUARD people"!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hey guys do you know of a site that has all the spells that each demon can learn? I'd like to know exatly what the spells this and the other multiple pets can learn without having to go onto the game and then going to a demon trainer.
Plz answer this ASAP!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is there any way to increase my summon damage? on 50 lvl voidwalker's damage is only 10-20:(
评论来自
Allakhazam
For those of you who want an example of how strong a felguard is, at least at my level.
I'm level 53, and I went afk for about 2-3 minutes. During that time, 2 level 51 mobs (diemetradons to be exact) had attempted to attack me. When I got back, my felgaurd had aggroed both, completely killed one of them, and had the other down to 40% while my felguard still had 60%. A voidwalker could definitely tank them both, but I doubt it would kill one on it's own in that amount of time, and a succubus would've died too fast.
评论来自
Thottbot
cant charm demons that are allready charmed nubcaek :P
评论来自
Thottbot
Mr benne. I must say that i am a lvl 52 Demo lock and i OWNED a lvl 54 destruct lock. I dont know if your on something...only god knows whats up with you. I made my guildies who are ONCE destruct turn into Demo. For one thing, once a felguard begins to attack you your spells are not able to be cast as rapidly as your saying they can. I can simply death coil your ass, have felguard intercept to stun you, then fear you as well. cast a few dots here and there, watch as my felguard 238dmgs you and crits you for sometimes 450. Whatever Lala land your in you might want to get out of it. I honestly dont think you even HAVE a lock seeing as how you cannot enslave lock pets (as you have previously stated). I dont know where you have been or what your even talking about. Demo locks OWN DESTRUCT LOCKS. Enough said. To bad for you that you are so oblivious to demo locks owning everything in their paths.
评论来自
Thottbot
Oh i forgot one thing Mr. Benne. DEMO LOCKS CAN SACRIFICE TOO YOU NOOB. I mean who thinks that only Destruct locks can do that? Apparently you it seems. If you were on Silvermoon i would personally teach you a thing or two about Demo locks. I have tried every single talent tree there is. My reset points now cost me up to 50g ive done it so many times. Destruct is ok, but Aff is much better. Nightfall/backlash is a good combo as well. Demo, however, is the best one ive seen yet (switching back to Aff spec once im lvl 70). I dont know if your ever going to see it, but if your only here to annoy the hell out of us demo's you pansy then please leave...do us all a favor. I dont even think that there is anything else you can say to redeem the humility you are receiving. try to comment on this, go ahead, I wanna see it. I would like to ask all the people here to say Aye if they think that this Mr. Benne is a noob who doesnt even know what he is talking about. Thank you Mr. Benne for giving me something to argue about in the morning and thanks everyone else for (hopefully) taking the time to agree with my current statements. take care everyone and remember...do not trust Mr. Benne for he is an imbecile.
评论来自
Thottbot
A demo warlock vs. any other warlock would generally lose if the aff/dest lock uses Banish. Banish = death to demonology. So it isnt necessary to develop some elaborate plan to kill both the lock and his minion, like the fellow who posted something relevent to 2 locks dueling.
评论来自
Thottbot
Yea hi
I dun actually have a Warlock at the moment
However im getting more and more intigued by them everyday
So im just wondering if anyone could give me some advice on what you think is the better build
I personally want to level really fast but would also like to own 1vs1 fights in PvP
Some say its demonology while otehrs affliction
Umm correct me if im worng coz i no hardly anything bout locks but is affliction slower to level with
would appreciate all suggestions and comments tnx
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, from what I have read in this thread, the Felguard is either really good or really bad. Demo locks (me, but I'm trying to be impartial for the time being) say that aff and des locks suck, and vice versa for the other two. Personally I think it just depends on your strategy and if you can see things coming or not. No point making a big argument out of it, come on, it's just a talent tree. It's just what you prefer. Although...I do like that dps and big axe. :) Personally I've never even used the Felguard. I'm a lvl 22 lock, just reading up on what it's like, seeing whether or not to get a talent wipe. Now I think I'm staying a demo lock.
评论来自
Thottbot
More DOTs! More DOTs!
评论来自
Thottbot
I thought it would be helpful to post that this is something you obtain through your talent tree. You have to spec deomonology. FYI.
评论来自
Thottbot
You obtain the Felguard by spending at least 40 poitns in the demonology tree. Your 41st point can go to "Summon Felguard".
I would like to know if Summoning a Felguard is truly worth all those points in a mediocre tree. Many of the talents you have to have in order to finally obtain a felgaurd don't seem to match up as well as affliction or destro talents, so the big question is: is he worth it?
My curiosity is mainly concerned with PVP. PVE is entertaining, but I'm very competitive against human players, so I would like to know if a demonology build would be recommended over aff/dest build for PVP.
评论来自
Thottbot
this has been a good read but if u doubt ur spec just go to google's vids and type in drakedog ^_^ happy hunting destro locks!
评论来自
Thottbot
can ne1 show me the stats for a lvl 50 fg
评论来自
Thottbot
REMEMBER: A lock has to put 41 points in a relatively sub-par dps tree to get a Felgaurd ala he is sacrificing lots of dps and instant dots to get a pet. So its only fair that the pet be somewhat badass for the effort and is regretable that Blizz has nerfed FG damage some pacthes ago due to constant whining.
However this is still 'the' best pet a lock can get. Ofcourse he must be willing to tradeoff a nice chunk of his personal dps but in my view FG makes up for it rather nicely. Not to forget it looks really badass too.
You are only at a disadvantage against other non-demo warlocks who banish FG. Otherwise this pet rocks and is totally worth the 41 points. Even after FG damage has been Nerfed it still hits decently enough. I have seen it put some nice dent on clothies health with few hits. It even does good against melee classes...I have beaten rogues with the FG pounding them for some decent damage while i fear and dot them up. This is not a pet you want to ignore.
The trick is how you use it. Always have it on Passive and turn the auto Intercept OFF and manually toggle it. If you see a potential target heading towards you or even ambushes you, DC (preferably) or fear them and quickly dot them up. As soon as the horror effects wears off have the felgaurd Intercept them for an additional 3 sec stun and it will whack them up for some nice damage too. Throw a bolt, fear, drain life, fear, fire a bolt and shadowburn for the kill. Works most of the time.
If target is a clothie or running away from you by all means have the FG intercept them and whack while you do your regular chain-fear, dots them up etc.
I never had this much fun with a lock before. Felguard is an awesome pet.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well im a lvl28 Demonology warlock. I started with afflic but even tho I liked the instant cast corruption and that stuff I like demonology better.
I know we have to use 41 points to get the Felguard, but hey, i know PvP is important, maybe some ppl think the FG isnt so go for PvP but i think its really good for grinding or questing (not sure about instances but it should b good too). U dont have to always PvP, if u want to lvl u have to grind/quest and FG is good for that isnt it?(my opinion, i dont even have 1 lol).
So yea, Aflic and Destruction might b good, but not like Demonology sucks, all talent trees have their good and bad stuff. But ive heard FG is really good, idc much about PvP(not right now) and yea maybe other warlocks can banish ur demon, but u arent going to always fight warlocks O_o there r alot of class to fight, some will beat u and ull own others, but hey its all about the way u use ur skills, maybe the stuff u wear too. Why u think they made 3 talent trees for each class?(i think they r 3 per class), u can choose the 1 u like the most, doesnt matter if it isnt so good for PvP, i dont think there is a talent tree that is 100% good for PvP/Grinding/Raids/Dungeons AND quests.
Conclusion, Choose the 1 u like the most, i liked demonology better, some ppl might say that demonology sucks, others will say that destruction sucks but its just their opinion. If u like ur talent tree just keep adding points on it, if u dont like it u can always unlearn ur talents.
评论来自
Thottbot
Oooo. I just got mine a few days ago. :O OWNAGE! More DPS than succubus. FAR better aggro holding than the voidwalker. I had him solo the Deadmines, only 1 Health Funnel! Crits very, very often...he's hit 3+ crits in a row. At lvl 50 he can hit 400+ dmg crits with Cleave. Also thx to him I kill elites like never before!
Lvl 50 Gnome Warlock
Velen realm
name available upon request ;P
评论来自
Thottbot
Plus,forgot to mention for my post above:THE FELGUARD IS FOR PVP ONLY.Use voidwalker to grind/quest/level!
评论来自
Thottbot
The Felguard is like having an inexperienced fury warrior at your side. He hits good numbers rapidy but can die very quickly. Also when he runs out of mana your out of luck.
The Voidwalker is like having a smart, skilled protection warrior. He can't do a lot of damage, hes not strong, not fast, but is durable. He has much more health and much more mana then a felguard and will last much longer. He just wont hit as high as the felguard but has suffering and torment rank6 compared to a torment rank1. Not 2 mention sacrfice!
Your pick have a hell of a strong, but fast death demon (FG)
or
Weak but extremely durable that will last long in battle and can be useful once dead with Sacrfice. ( VW )
All in all its whether u like Offense or Defense
评论来自
Thottbot
Can somebody tell me if they have ever tested if a Felguard does more damage if the Lock has a 2handed weapon on...because with cleave it says it does like 90 dmg + YOUR weapon damage...which im curious about.
评论来自
Thottbot
more info than you ever wanted to know here:
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/search?q=Felguard
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the best sommon HAND DOWN
评论来自
Thottbot
dudes and dudettes. demo locks get the bonuses from when a pet is out, unless they use demonic sacrifice (or sacrifice the voidwalker), but i pretty much just got demo sacrifice so i could grab soul link.
now ask yourself this: when is a warlock not going to have a pet out? so, if that's the case, and you rather enjoy your pet out, just go demo. both you and your pet will be stronger.
the biggest thing most people forget is that every pet a lock has is supposed to be used at different time (no one ever said you have to pick one pet to be out all the time). i always switch to different pets, even in the middle of instances. the best part of demo tree is imo, master demonologist and demonic knowledge. indispensible bonuses different with each pet, and all give an extra layer of spell dmg.
and if you grabbed them along the way, fel domination + master summoner makes it OH so easy to switch between them.
the only real stand out points the felguard has is damage and speed versatility. voidwalker laughs at felguard for durability, imp has the best party bonus, succubus is just a second-hand casting outlet for you (seduction and 15% dmg bonus, master demonologist), and the fel hunter makes you pretty much immune to casters (other locks casting banish will have to go through like 200+ resistances) and gives rogues a hard time.
felguard will just do the most attack swings the fastest, and hit the hardest. intercept and cleave will help a lot with keeping the pressure on other players (to an extent at least)... and demonic frenzy is cool.
every pet kinda sucks for its purpose when you first get it... imp doesn't get blood pact or fire shield right away, and voidwalker doesn't get suffering for quite a while, and it seems like forever before fel hunter gets spell lock and paranoia. just the same, while you're getting to the point where you finally have what makes felguard shine, you still have your other pets. they're all used for something different, so use them all.
评论来自
Thottbot
this demon rocks. it does much dmg it's able to kill mobs nearly alone. It doesn't have demonic frenzy yet and still it owns
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召唤恶魔卫士
召唤恶魔卫士
天赋
80% 法力值 值
6秒 施法时间
需要 术士
召唤一个恶魔卫士协助术士作战。
灵魂燃烧
灵魂燃烧:瞬发法术。
魔法增益
法术细节
持续时间
n/a
类型
暗影
机制
n/a
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
普通
成本
80% 法力值 值
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
6秒
冷却
n/a
GCD
1.5秒
效果
Summon Pet (
恶魔卫士
)
价值:1
PVP 倍率:1
标记
形变时无法使用
[Dismiss Pet First]
[No AutoCast (AI)]
[No Reagent Cost With Aura]
[Not In Spellbook Until Learned]
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