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评论来自
Athene
Can anyone confirm if this will procc on both white, CS and DS?
评论来自
Jokar
Can anyone confirm if this will apply on Bosses (Instance,Raids etc...)
Thanks.
评论来自
Hadrial
Reduces the Targets
Mana (Intel)
Health (Stam)
Dodge (Agil)
Crit Chance (Intel and Agil)
Block (Str)
Damage ( AP provided by Str and Agil)
Say you proc this on a Prot pally with 10k hp and 10k mana (God forbid such a pally exists)
He now has 8k hp and 8k mana, along with lowered block and (haha) crit chance.
definatly worth it, thats 1-2 less hits you need on him before he dies, mind you its a pally.
lets hope his Hearth and bubble are on cd
评论来自
Hozumi
Question: does vindication take affect only from 'total' stats or can it affect targets from they're 'current' damage,etc.?
For example, at my current level of 39, I damage my target and Vindication procs. His total hp lets say is 2000pts. My damage (normal attack swing "alone") brought him down to 1800. With vindication proc, does that bring my targets health down to <1440> (1800 - ) or does it reduce my target's health from his 'total' health which brings him down to <1600> (2000 - )?
Please correct me if my math is wrong (sorry, im a little slow lol). Any input on this is very much appraised. Thanks.
*edit*
Sorry, I just noticed fantom106's post on this. Apparently it takes from 'total' health/stats, not current. With that being the case, i guess any damage prior to vindication proccing makes them completely pointless?
评论来自
194002
Just tested this talent using protection spec.
Vindication will proc on multiple target using :
- Hammer of the Righteous (*)
- Avenger's Shield (*)
- Holy Wrath (*)
wonder if the AoE proc will help (a bit) for prot pally on clearing trash mobs.
评论来自
toastmaster7727
Most paladins already know this but when your attacking a mob, you'll want this to proc from your first auto attack and then go crazy on Crusader Strike and Judgements. I've fought several mobs where I would get some pretty nice crits right off the bat and have this proc only to bring their hp to what it is after the crits. Very annoying when you realize that if you let this proc before the major crits, all of it would add up instead of both effects pretty much cancelling each other out.
评论来自
154349
Apply Aura: Proc Trigger Spell
Proc chance: 100%
Does this mean the "chance to proc on damaging abilities" is actually a 100% chance? So, if I wait for an auto-attack swing on my PvP opponent before blowing my three main DPS skills, I don't need to worry about it NOT proccing and gimping my burst in the second or so I waited?
Or is it like the above poster said, wait to hit the mob as Vindication will always proc and therefore make your following damage more useful than if you had used said ability and it had procced Vindication individually?
ON A SIDE NOTE: Vindication will trigger on multiple targets when using Divine Storm from my experience.
评论来自
2919
This is a nice talent especially for PVP builds. Even if your target is getting spamhealed, it has less total life once it is brought to 'full' and makes it easier to kill/harder to keep up.
评论来自
Meowth
This now has a 100% chanse to trigger off your Hand of Reckoning skill, meaning you can open the fight with reducing the mobs stats (thus hp) by 20% instead of first hit the mob for 20% of it's health and then this proccs and only the max hp goes down meaning it won't do any good (exept if the mobs heals ofcourse.)
评论来自
260375
the effect says the proc chance is 100% is that true?
评论来自
138629
Vindication always procs when I use Hand of Reckoning! It's a great way to open a battle. 20% of their life down with an instant cast is no joke.
评论来自
362323
Can anyone tell me if this talent works in arena, b/c im not sure if i should pick it in arena
评论来自
Everborne
Does "damaging attacks" refer only to melee attacks, or does it also include spells like Holy Shock?
评论来自
Malik8u
If Vindication is dispelled, is the lost health/mana returned or must you drink/eat?
Because as of yet, this talent is basically free 2k damage.
评论来自
353796
Please use Hand Of Reckoning before every fight to proc vindication on the opponent, it will be like your Hand Of Reckoning is taking 20% of the opponents health, then you have your REAL attacks (judgements etc)
Not reccomended if you're in an instance or raid however as it is still a taunt :P
EDIT: Vindication no longer reduces stamina in a recent hotfix so it serves no purpose to start fight off with a weak attack as it will get put up by other attacks anyway.
评论来自
ataxxia
Vindication now Gives the Paladin's damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's attack poewr by 23/46 for 10 sec
Useless talent now. I personally have 4400ap with might. 46/4400 = ~1%
I'm not sure where I will put my extra 2 talents.
At least 1 needs to be in ret to get divine storm, not sure about the other one.
Any suggestions?
评论来自
Godhand
. . .balancing out combat against spellcasters, very usefull.
Thank you Blizz, great idea. . .again.
评论来自
sucellus
It doesn't seem to have an internal CD as I can keep this debuff on bosses for 100% uptime as protection. Also, it procs from Hammer of the Righteous (Avengers Shield as well) so can debuff many mobs at once. As it's basically a 100% uptime passive demo shout a must for cookie cutter protection builds (
5/54/12
) in my opinion:
评论来自
Kaliara
I've got a freshly 80 paladin that I'm planning to dual spec prot/retri, and I'm a bit undecided about this talent. Are prot palas or rets meant to take it? Or are we supposed to leave it to the warriors/bears/locks?
Edit: Thanks, your reply was very helpful. I'm mostly doing heroics/farm content and we've quite a few warrior tanks, so I'll be skipping it for now.
评论来自
211696
wait, so they gave prot pallies an ability that reduces *raid boss* AP? and it doesn't require breaking your rotation to use, it just happens? and it can proc off your AoE skills, including a 100% proc chance on Avenger's Shield?
lol.
helloooo respecc!
评论来自
Ronark
Had reports of Vindication proccing seals now in 3.3. Any confirmation of this?
评论来自
387679
Didnt this used to be a reverse blessing of kings, -10% stats?
I was looking at my talents seeing if I could streamline them anywhere, and I noticed this is now reduced attack power by 46. This seems rather low to me. I know this is a game where little numbers add up to bigger numbers, but 46 attack power is the sort of amount you would find on
gems
. I'm not sure on the exact math, but that doesn't seem like it would scale very well beyond heroics. (How much attack power does Onyxia have for example?)
评论来自
231258
From
Elitist Jerks
:
___________________________________________
As of the 3.2 patch, the AP reduction provided by this talent is equivalent to a fully talented warrior Demo Shout, a feral druid Demo Roar, or a fully talented warlock Curse of Weakness, and does not stack with those effects. Hence this talent can substitute for those. Because this effect is completely passive and "free" of a cost in resources, damage, or time/attention, in many ways it's preferable to those effects. Many tanks take this talent for reasons similar to those discussed above for Judgements of the Just.
___________________________________________
Basically you're going to want this talent if you're leveling up and just doing 5-mans or if you find yourself mostly tanking heroics. In a raid environment, you can spend the points elsewhere since it doesn't stack with other similar abilities.
评论来自
Bozziaruka
My lvl 38 pala did just pick first rank of this talent, but it looks like it was nerfed.
from about 30 mobs which i killed ( I know, not much, but i don't think more is needet now)
It did Not proc from hand of reckoning a single time.
From melle / soc / judgement attacks i got total 2 procs of vindication on around 30mobs. It's offc possible that it procced on killing blows, but still, it's ¬80 - 100 hits with only 2 procs? Seems to be now useless to me
评论来自
282259
So interrupting raid boss's best wiping spells? Why have anything but a pally tank?
评论来自
72777
Even though it says Hammer of the Righteous reduce physical damage done by their primary targets by 10% for 30 sec. Vindication will hit effect all targets that gets hit by Hammer of the Righteous AoE holy damage, not just the one who got primarily targeted as the spell description says.
评论来自
798034
vindication is a must have talent. raid bosses tend to hit atleast 60k unmigated. while tanking reducing 6k off that helps. then another 30% assuming a 50% block rate for an idea pally tank.
评论来自
sillywalks
All effects currently providing the 10% damage reduction debuff:
Warriors:
挫志怒吼
Druids:
挫志咆哮
Deathknights (blood):
血红热疫
Paladins (protection):
辩护
Warlocks:
虚弱诅咒
Hunters with carrion bird pet:
挫志尖啸
Hunters with bear pet:
挫志咆哮
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你的十字军打击和正义之锤使其主要目标造成的物理伤害降低10%,持续30 sec。
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