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评论来自
99096
whats the % from +healing this spell gets? without empowered healing talents.
评论来自
karlusdavius
Again, not correct.
Flash heal vs Greater heal never comes down to raw numbers. it comes down to opportunity. You state that Discipline Priests should be using PW:S followed by greater Heal, without taking Penance, their 51 point talent, into consideration. Your views are based on the perfect scenario. This will never happen.
You keep mixing Discipline with Holy. Both are completely different in every way. Holy is a raid healer and will very rarely use Greater heal unless high, predictable incoming damage is present (patchwerk). You look at any guilds 25 man Parses from WWS and you will find that the main spells used are CoH, Flash Heal and PoM. Greater heal will be lowest.
Discipline is a Single target Healer. We should not raid heal as we do not have the skills or talents to do so. Main Tank healing is what we do. We Flash heal long enough to use Penance. Greater heal will not be used. even on patchwerk.
The debate of Flash Heal vs Greater Heal based on numbers
Greater Heal Wins
The debate of Flash Heal vs Greater Heal based on
Usefulness
Quickness of casting
HPS depending on deficit
Amount of procs turning (
Flash heal into Instant casts
).
Flash Heal Wins.
评论来自
226027
Flash Heal is the spell that a Discipline Priests should use between Penance.
This is because:
Divine Aegis and Rapture does not benefit from overhealing done.
The only benefit Greater Heal has to Discipline Priests is that the larger heal makes a larger shield. And as point 2 says, over healing does not make much of a benefit.
评论来自
479179
Cataclysm:
This is a Priests' fast, expensive heal. It has a short cast time, heals for a rather large amount, but the mana cost is very high. You should only use this if your target will die before you can land a Heal or Greater Heal spell.
评论来自
Pythagoreant
This is priests' quick, expensive heal.
In Cataclysm (as of 4.0.3a), all healers have the following types of heals:
Quick, expensive heal: 1.5 second cast, very high mana cost, high heal value.
Inexpensive heal: 3 second cast (usually talented to 2.5), very low mana cost, low heal value.
Slow, big heal: 3 second cast (usually talented to 2.5), high mana cost, very high heal value.
The mana costs differ very slightly between classes. Two of them have the quick heal cost more than the big heal.
Priest
Quick -
快速治疗
Cheap -
治疗术
Big -
强效治疗术
Shaman
Quick -
治疗之涌
Cheap -
治疗波
Big -
强效治疗波
Druid
Quick -
愈合
Cheap -
滋养
Big -
治疗之触
Paladin
Quick -
圣光闪现
Cheap -
圣光术
Big -
神圣之光
评论来自
Thottbot
Could you ask for anything more?
评论来自
Thottbot
if you have to ask you've never played a priest or any other healing class.
fast small low mana cost heals are your bread and butter.
评论来自
Thottbot
Since the stance isn't available until level 29 (assuming all your talent points are in holy), isn't this really useless? Since you could just buy the spell closer to your level?
评论来自
Thottbot
This spell helps u alot in instances, it takes less aggro, heals pretty good and Fast! I totally recommend using it in instances
评论来自
Thottbot
I use Flash Heal on cloth and leather wearers, they seem to need smaller amounts of quick healing.
Regular old Heal works great on tanks and I let them get down to somewhere between 60 to 75% health before I begin the cast. Seems to work well, at least I haven't heard any complaints yet. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
C'mon it's widely known that you don't NEED spirit of redemption because thott says so. ~~
This spell is preventing overheal. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Whether healing in instances or soloing this spell owns. Its basically a qucik heal for quick healing.
评论来自
Thottbot
whats the point of this spell u need that outher spell in the holy talents to use it i mean what about us shadow priest is it just a wast of are hard earned Cash?
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm not a fan.
It's not as efficient as Heal/Greater Heal, which means if possible you shouldn't use it unless the person in need of healing has less than 3 seconds to live. I guess a jittery MT might not like you allowing his/her health to drop to 50% before a big heal comes in to take it back up but IMHO that's their problem.
It is sometimes useful on clothies for whom a big heal would be overkill but I usually Shield and Renew them as soon as I see them take aggro. If they're still taking aggro when the shield and renew have worn off then they or the tank is not doing their job.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just to comment on some of the above posts ...
I disagree that small low mana heals are your bread and butter. Your bread and butter is short bursts of healing with long periods of recharging in between. Which for my money means occasional Greater Heals instead of frequent Flash Heals.
And of course you don't need Spirit of Redemption to cast this spell. That's just telling you that this is one of the spells you *can* cast when SoR. Not that you can *only* cast it then.
评论来自
Thottbot
Is everyone nuts, flash heal as more mana efficient than holy light, a pally can almost last forever off flash heals.
评论来自
Thottbot
damn this spell is better than a shamans lesser heal {healing wave w/tallent is better not to brag XD}
链接
快速治疗
快速治疗
等级85
28% 法力值 值
40 码范围
1.5秒 施法时间
需要 牧师
需要等级 3
治疗友方目标,恢复7386点生命值。
魔法增益
法术细节
持续时间
n/a
类型
神圣
机制
n/a
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
普通
成本
28% 法力值 值
范围
40码
(较远)
施法时间
1.5秒
冷却
n/a
GCD
1.5秒
效果
Heal
价值:15 (SP mod:
0.725)
PVP 倍率:1
标记
形变时无法使用
不需要形变
[Heal Prediction]
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