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评论来自
5027
Lord, oh, Lord I hate this axe...
If you are solo'ing feel free to use it, but please do NOT use it in instances!
1) The damn proc will break any crowd control near you. Shackle, polymorph, sap, anything. As a mage, I want to kill the warrior using this thing that constantly breaks the polymorph but then refuses to move away from the sheeped mob.
2) Don't use this thing unless you have a really good tank or a lot of armor. If you are using this weapon then you are not using a shield and you will very quickly get a lot of aggro and mobs pounding on you. I just ran ZF with a paladin who used this and I wanted to kill her because when the thing proc'd then she couldn't heal herself and when everything started pounding on her and her life dropped like a rock I had to burn all my mana keeping her alive.
Truly, please don't use this in instances. =)
评论来自
xabbott
I believe you can click off the "buff" and make it stop.
评论来自
6984
I agree. Many warriors suddenly proc, twirling around in the middle of a Battleground. Then we just laugh and kill him in no time, and he can't do anything. Don't use this in BG much either, it could prove disastrous, especially if you're chasing a flag carrier in WSG.
评论来自
8271
Well on my pally its really easy to get it off. Just use any seal or judgement and it instantly takes it off. For wars, i have no idea.
评论来自
8976
The axe is good for warrios,paladins. It has no stats so it's really bad for a hunter. The proc is very annoyin, you will have to use a spell/abillity to stop it.
评论来自
8455
The axe is good for pve, but i wouldnt recomend it for pvp. Because if the axe procs on a hunter or mage or any ranged dps class they can easily get out of the axes reach , and just put an aimshot or pyroblast on you and work you down while you are helplessly spinning. Its a good axe just use caution!
评论来自
netherbane
Keep this weapon. I know a higher level that still has it in his backpack. There are instances later in the game with weak non elite mobs zerging you, and this really does come in handy when it procs.
Examples of instances: Zul Farrak. Blackrock Depths. Stratholme. Atleast those I remember. There are nearly always parts in instances with alot of weak mobs, that is when its time to switch from your main weapon to this badass axe and wait for the proc.
Also, it is probably the best looking axe in the game after my opinion, and also excelent to bring when helping low levels through newbie isntances =) Dont ever sell this if you are low on money or disenchant it, heed my warning.
Cheers.
评论来自
9304
Ravager is better that Mograines Might by a long shot. Not only does the Ravager cause more damage it can kill a whole crowd of enemys and where would you see that oh... how bout in the Deadmines or after you kill Herod. Or all those alien looking things in Mara Orange that are supposed to be caterpillars of a sort.
P.S. RAVAGER PWNS EVERYTHING ANYTIME!!!!!!!!!
P.S.S. I feel sorry to all those other classes that cannot use this weapon
评论来自
zeda
The proc cannot be broken by right-clicking it off in your buff menu.
However, it can be interrupted by using abilities. As a shaman, Stormstrike or a Shock will break it handily.
评论来自
Tyristrasz
It's a great weapon for farming lower level instances for gear for your alts, however. I use it exclusively to clear SFK to get through in twenty minutes flat.
评论来自
h4rr0d
i just started using this beauty as retri specced pala. i hoped that the proc will have ability to trigger seal of command, that proved to be untrue sadly. anyway its still very good axe to be used with SoC due to slow attack speed (and big damage).
and about the proc, the range of whirlwind is rly huge (i'd say like 8yds - thats hunter's dead zone for instance). oh and it can be broked by any spellcast, including those with cast time, like heals.
评论来自
loozerr
This weapon looks cool, so does the proc, it hits well but it made lot of trouble in SM Cath run when one warr was wearing it. He pulled many mobs in cath because of it, he removed several polymorphs, once we almost got wiped. But weapon is brilliant for lvl 37.
评论来自
36466
i can see how this axe is a solution and problem for tanking warriors and/or pallys. the way i see it is that when tanking when a guy runs and you are busy beating the crap out of another guy, you dont have time to chase him down. and warriors dont have an AoE. so this axe would will allow you to kill like 3 guys at the same time and still be able to guard people so they dont die. now for the disadvantage. its the fact that it is an AoE. if you start the spell you are stuck with it and cant cancel it for a warrior. so be careful, if you are running a very compact and small dungeon, for goodness sake dont use this without a hunter and preist.
评论来自
Zeshar
I thought I would chime in and mention that the "Bladestorm" effect of this will proc the shaman ability Frostbrand, but not Flametongue or Windfury.
评论来自
36178
I won this last night and would have to agree with some of the first post on it being useless in PvP...all anyone would have to do is run away...it is the same way we killed "Herod" to get it...When it proc'd, we all just stepped back. Tha being said however...it is an awesome toy and should work well ...toe to toe...with mobs in the open. I got this running "In the Name of the Light" so I still took the Bonebiter two-handed Axe for a Quest reward. It being the superior of the two.
评论来自
Bojo
Sure is a toy, but it's nice for farming too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPMpjuu9XF8
评论来自
KidB
If you dislike this axe, and are an alliance player,
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6830#M0z
makes a great substitute.
评论来自
52329
damn,so in pvp its a huge liability,especially vs ranged classes? was planning on getting this on my axe specc arms warrior,but now...does slam brake the effect? coz slam is not instant...anyone know? is it or is it not a good AB weapon? and up to what AB bracket? 40-49 only? pls respond
评论来自
29902
Activating a seal as a paladin will remove the whirlwind effect .
评论来自
51773
Warriors can break the proc by switching stances. Maybe not a great answer depending on your situation, but a whole lot better than spinning like an idiot while a hunter pounds on you. I think this fact makes it more than a toy, unless you need to worry about breaking crowd control.
评论来自
5104
As a Warrior, the
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6975
(WW Axe) or even the
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6976#z0z
(WW Hammer) are far better choices. The small damage increase from Ravager is not enough to make up for the better stats of the Whirlwind weapons.
评论来自
58129
wow the axe is in sm dat not awesome y need gruop and im lvl 30 some one can help me im in the server adhornal my char name is CYBERLUIS plz
some one help me to get the axe plz
评论来自
40914
I think the mace, Mograine's Might is much better than this. First of all, it has a higher DPS. Secondly, it has a nice +17 stamina bonus to boost ure health, and +12 spirit for better regen. The ravager has no stat increase, only the AoE, which, to be honest can be bad in some situations!
评论来自
40914
I think the mace, Mograine's Might is much better than this. First of all, it has a higher DPS. Secondly, it has a nice +17 stamina bonus to boost ure health, and +12 spirit for better regen. The ravager has no stat increase, only the AoE, which, to be honest can be bad in some situations!
评论来自
zdravko
It is very good when you come to help your lower lvl friend for example in an instance like Deadmines.Then u don't have to kill npcs one by one just simple hit one few times in that 9 seconds and watch them all die. :D
It is very nice axe too but...u would rather have pacifier (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6327
)equiped cause this axe breaks buffs and that is enough to make u forget it in your backpack or simple sell it enjoying that vendor has no idea what kind of item you have just sold to him. ROFL
评论来自
67015
Get the Whirlwind Axe (
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=6975
) instead. You get a Stam bonus, plus you won't start spinning at the worst possible times.
评论来自
69864
That is a good toy axe but don't use in instances
评论来自
72242
the axe is a real good pvp axe but in instances i find aot of mages gettin mad at me but i normaly throw down my judgment and then it il stop but VERY good pvp axe noobs will stand right in the way while u r whirwinding
评论来自
Shorty
This isn't a BAD PvE instance axe. Yes, it breaks CC, but casting any instant cast spell (or ability for warriors) breaks the Bladestorm effect- and as the AoE doesn't start ticking for 3 seconds, that's plenty of time to cancel it if you're standing near the sheep.
You just need to pay attention.
评论来自
Lorex
is freaking good axe if you cant take pull in instance whit out cc then beter leave my last group in amory took 10 mobs whit out cc and brake
评论来自
78273
as a warrior you actually can stop it by changing stance or do ofter instant attack like execute.. :D
评论来自
elsydeon
does this work with seal of righteousness? if so i can see some decent dmg for the ret palys with that
or a prot who wants to farm zerg instances (SM itself comes to mind)
评论来自
1815
This axe is still useful at level 70, and any serious DPS warrior should have this in their bag of tricks.
This weapon has the highest potential DPS of any weapon in the game in any situation where you can AOE without fear of retaliation. For example, I pulled 1000 dps on the Illhoof encounter using this weapon, tying with the two AOEers for damage.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7613/ravagertn8.jpg
Note that fully 54% of my damage is Whirlwind (warrior whirlwind + the ravager proc).
评论来自
Bojo
Well... I think it's pretty unnecessary to complain about this one for breaking crowd controls in instances. People use this axe from level 37 to level 43 or something, and in the instances for those levels, crowd control is not really necessary, since the dungeons are so easy.
评论来自
67582
This axe can throw out incredible DPS, I was farming Sm Armory for the
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=23192
, and as it happens this dropped along the way.
So I went and ran a Sm Cathedral fun run to truly test it's potential, with amazing results.
I had managed to fluctuate around 4700dps, relying merely on it's proc.
I've submitted a screenshot of the Cathedral run.
I'd reccomend this axe to anyone, whether it be for fun, or a PvE alternative.
评论来自
66552
If you change stance or use zerk rage,bloodrage,all shouts etc can take proc off.
评论来自
Leona
What does it proc off? normal swings?
Anyway I found another fact. You can loot while still channeling the WW.
评论来自
90272
Does anyone know when a warrior would likely replace this weapon? I just got it at 37 along with the full Herod set =D
评论来自
93330
Does anyone know if pally holy damage would be added to each hit when this weapon procs when using seal of righteousness? thinking, this could build some good threat if it does.
评论来自
97717
Does anybody know what those shoulder pads are that the guy on picture 2 is wearing?
评论来自
88528
You can't remove the whirlwind with right clicking the buff ... Not really sure if fixed.
评论来自
93682
I want to know how many times someone who was looking for this axe had to run SM Armory. I have got a level 70 to run me 5 times. I looted everything all 5 times and never got this or the scarlet legs Herod drops. I want these really bad to complete my set. I'm gonnaa keep running it but i just wish getting this was easier.
评论来自
97780
Shaman factoid: while the special whirlwind effect CAN proc from any of the windfury extra attacks,for the entire duration of the whirlwind spin the damaging attacks on your nearby victims WILL NOT proc windfury.
Also,shamans can easily stop the spinning effect by shocking or laying down a totem.
评论来自
childofnewlight
Started using this at 37 on my retribution paladin. For some odd reason whenever it goes into the bladestorm I get hit once and it gets interrupted. I don't cast any spells, activate any attacks, goes into a 2 sec spin then stops.
I have a feeling this is bug. what use would a proc for a melee weapon be if one hit knocks you out? What paladin/shaman/warrior/hunter/etc when engaged in melee combat doesn't get hit at least once or twice? Meh...
评论来自
102814
does reckoning (pallie tanlent) work with the proc?
评论来自
bloodr2
Does Seal of Light, a palladin talent, work on the procs also? because if it does... we have ourselves a winner!
If it doesn't...
Incoming sad panda...
评论来自
88528
Seal of light, or any other seals doesn't work when this is on whirlwind.
Reckoning neither
评论来自
93630
for a warrior, the whirlwind-axe is better due to the +15sta, +14str, as this only has a proc, while whirlwind-axe has stats to help.
hunters don't want this axe either because it has no stats for them as well.
A Paladin or warrior would be best for this weapon, but once again, warriors have whirlwind axe from a quest.
this is a melee axe! unless your main attack is melee don't get this!
评论来自
93630
would crusader be a good enchant for this weapon, on a paladin? If it does then while spinning you would be healed etc etc, would it work or not? i am not worried about cost, want to know if Crusader Enchant works on this axe, and if it would be good for this AXE. Please i would like a reply, thanx.
评论来自
Zynaga
Switching weapons also makes the effect stop.
评论来自
95798
This axe is awesome. To shard.
That's about it.
评论来自
101338
Your comments make a lot of sense, but, as long as you keep those problems in mind, this axe can be amazing. I have this on my paladin and it is wonderful, especially in instances. It is really easy to get a number of mobs attacking at once (in Uldaman for example 7 or 8 mobs is commonplace), and the ability to hit them all, or a majority, with a heavy hitting weapon like this is a blessing. Yes, you have to watch out for any crowd control, but if something is sheeped, etc, then you have probably moved away from it to use consecration, so that's not an issue. As for threat, you ARE going to be a threat magnet. However, a) if you're a ret pali using this thing with even mostly decent gear, you'll be generating more than enough threat as it is, b) even though you're not a tank, you're still wearing mail/plate and have some stamina, so you should be able to take the beating (i find myself tanking a lot at this level anyways), and c) if you end up pulling threat you should not have to heal yourself. Who on earth has a ret pali as main healer?! The damage this thing does is way worth it. With vengeance procced (and when bladestorm goes off, vengeance is not far behind), I've whit crit for 729 (at lvl 42, far from twinked). You will chew through mobs. And if you ever need to stop, cast ANYTHING and it will stop. I try to judge if something is alive and near, if not just re-seal. It's that simple. Also, I have noticed that this thing will proc off of Judgement of Command (very odd, but seeing as JoC procs fiery as well, i'm not as surprised. btw, put fiery on this thing ;).
In conclusion, this is a very destructive weapon that will serve you well, however you must pay attention when using it so that you stay away from sheeped/etc. mobs and know when to end it early. Also, it would be a good idea to let your party members know you're using it before the instance, so that either a) they know not to be surprised when you spin and pwn stuff, or b) ask you not to use it (I would always go with the group, but so far noone has minded). So Retadins, get this, put fiery on it, and kill stuff.
Also, this is not really a bg weapon. In arathi basin i could see this being used, as there are often a number of people nearby, but ONLY as a paladin, because they can break it fast. Warriors, if noone is within range of an ability, will sit there spinning. As for WSG..... never. ever. Because the moment you are chasing or defending a flag carrier, the irony gods will make it proc on you and that could cost you crucial seconds while you break the spin.
Hope this rambling has been helpful!
评论来自
sophitia
I just got this axe on my BE pally, enchanted it with Fiery Weapon. I don't know why the Bladestorm proc effect doesn't seem to work. Whenever it proc'ed if the monster is still alive it just stopped... (I see the channeling bar appearing then it stopped all of sudden). The effect would only go on when the proc is the killing blow. I wonder if the auto attack cancels the effect? Or is it because of something else which makes my pally unable to use the axe? I'm so sad now because I camped the SM Armory for a few days just for this axe and it does not work... can someone give me a solution? Thanks in advance.
*Edit: Problems found. It appears that the proc stops automatically only when I have judgement of crusade on the mob. Maybe because I had improve seal of crusade... Can anyone confirm if this is true and if it applies for the judgement of crusade without the improved talent skill?
评论来自
Corbon
As an Alliance there's no point in using it. Just get Bonebiter from the quest and you're set. 20 Str + 10 Sta and slightly higher DPS (3,4 speed) > Ravager's stupid proc. It's only good for completing and posing with your Scarlet Set.
评论来自
birgerogole
This wep is only a toy if you dare useing this in any instance you shouldnt even go in instance it is a like makeing suaside on oyurself when the proc starts you will Agrro all around you and sure it will kill you it is ok to play with it as a DPS thing when you are alone but you should use
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=7723
that is a tihng that can be used in instances much better to just DPS and dont pull aggro
I ahve been with a some in an instance with a dude useing this the proc took of the sheeps and saps so we kicked him after 2-4 mob groups then we found one useing
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=7723
and we kept him for the rest of the instance he was pally and he did survive alone many times and then he ressurectet the rest of us. NEVER AND I SAY IT AGIAN NEVER USE THIS AXE IN AN INSTANCE IF YOU DO YOU DERSERVE TO BE BANNED!
评论来自
131109
i love this axe it has saved me so many times:D
评论来自
132486
1 of wows sickest wepons recomend 2 any1 who wants 2 b a twink for lvl 39 it is fast good special and easy 2 get
评论来自
132486
when u get out of the ravenger as soon u reach lv 44 get the blade of titans great wepon
评论来自
134616
im thinking about getting this weapon on my hunter, is there anything better for him besides this? (he's lvl 49 his weapons suck but he can solo SM armory)
评论来自
134616
geeze...i ran SM 3 times still no ravager lol annoying
评论来自
134616
woot i got it after the 6th run
评论来自
136470
should be nice to use this with paladin with mounted a seal of command, or also a shammy with windfury...it is going to be alot of damage :)
of course useless apart to try it for fun
评论来自
46500
Can det Whirlwind effect proc Windfury for shamans? Would be pretty nice, but no one have said anything about it... So now I'm asking.. hehe :)
评论来自
Zodak
There seems to be some confusion as to why the Bladestorm proc stops early for Ret Paladins. In my testing I believe what is happening is this. Since any "spell ability" stops the duration early, if you have ANY judgement judged on a target (light, crusader, wisdom, etc) that can be refreshed with a melee attack, this is considered a spell and this is what is breaking the Bladestorm duration.
You can SoComm, judge, repeat and the Bladestorm will proc in its full duration.
评论来自
gratscot
No hunters should have this axe
EVER
its a horribel hunter wepon, as is most of the scarlet mail drops for hunters... for some reason I see a ton oh hunters useing this...
评论来自
77027
Will the Bladestorm effect proc any of the Darkmoon cards? Specifically Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom
评论来自
122434
To those who used to play EQ, this weapon always reminds me of the Dirk of the Traitorwhen I see somebody using it in PvP. An axe that roots you in place as a proc, priceless.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3894
评论来自
134700
once had a idiot warrior break 2 sheep and a sap with this. fin
-Meeck
评论来自
146908
Few questions about this thing:
If a paladin were to use this, would Seal of Casino or Blood proc off the hits from whirlwind?
Along the same lines, are fiery weapon, life stealing or the fiery blaze enchant able to proc off the whirlwind?
Thanks in advance to anyone who knows. :)
评论来自
99562
fiery blaze enchant can proc of this weapon's proc last i checked. However i'm unsure about life stealing and fiery
评论来自
111885
I was farming on my warrior using Ravager and kept accidentally stopping my Bladestorm effect by using other abilities. So I did alittle macro to keep bladestorm going if it's already started:
/cast Rend
I use Tab and Rend to get it to start, you could change it to Whirlwind or whatever you pref. I find the low rage cost and spammable nature of Rend works fine if all you're wanting is to get Bladestorm to start up....
Enjoy!
Edit: Definitely Fiery Weapon procs off the Bladestorm effect....I bet the others do too.
评论来自
146908
After about 20 minutes of testing, I'm either extremely unlucky or SoC cannot proc during whirlwind, which does make sense in retrospect, seeing as how it can't proc off Crusader Strike and both are yellow attacks (each hit of the whirlwind registers as a yellow attack). Since all the damage seals tend to share that trait, Im guessing it can't proc Blood or even Righteousness.
Oh well, I got it pretty quickly and have a fun new axe to play with. :D
评论来自
114911
piece of %^&* axe tthat i despise and despise who use it
评论来自
Fantic
I got this weapon about 3 days ago on my pally, and have to say its not worth it, but ONLY because of the proc. I love the damage, and if it didnt have the proc, it would be the best weapon till 44 for a ret pally. It comes with a lot of downsides.
1. ALL ranged mobs, including casters or any melee mobs with throwing weapons, bows and guns, will now run out of range of the proc. This has one major flaw. You are spinning for 9 seconds while these mobs pepper you with ranged attacks. If your pulling in a tight space, these mobs who run out of range, can also pull other mobs.
2. It wont proc SoC.
3. If it procs just before a mob starts running ... your stuck. One bonus is that seals break the proc.
To me its a 5% chance of getting the games worst proc. If you are a warrior, stick with whirlwind axe till lvl 44.
评论来自
137653
In fact, I´m a paladin and i have this axe, but when i get bladestorm i still can heal myself and cast other powers like Judgement or seals.
评论来自
123101
is there a weapon at this lvl with a 3.8 attack speed or is this the best you're going to get at this bracket?
评论来自
100270
Enchant procs do still seem to work with the Ravager. Each hit on a mob has the normal chance of proccing the enchant, so the more mobs you're hitting, the better.
That being said, Ravager is only really good for grinding a lot of enemies in a small space, such as the imps from Illhoof, or Shadowfang Keep. Your hits won't be as big as with other weapons, but you're sacrificing top-end damage in order to hit everything.
Stuns and knockdowns will interrupt the effect, so be aware of which mobs have those kinds of attacks.
评论来自
158073
Hunters should never roll on this axe, they should never think about rolling, they don't need it, they can't put any good use to it AT ALL. I'm sick of seeing retarded hunters with this thing who actually think it's a good hunter weapon. Everytime I see a hunter with them it ^&*!es me off because I know it was stolen from a melee who deserved it.
Hunters.....L2play......
评论来自
Shapeman
also if ur in ZF the scarabs arent KoS(Kill on sight) so if u have killed the guy who drops the sanddtalker ankleguards i the room the healer can worry about u when the axe procs and the whole scarab room aggros and chance are that u have other classes that can heal so u should be fine.I have done the same thing with my druids hurricane in moonkin form.
Also ive noted that the bladestorm buff can be rightclicked off as of 2.4.3.
评论来自
Merowlin
Could someone with Ravager try this macro:
/cancelaura bladestorm
If it does work, I could see some PvP potential.
评论来自
116707
I personally love this axe, i got it at 37 on my enhance shaman and only parted with it when i got two blue maces for DW. I should have kept it at 70, but i suppose i can just farm Herod to get it again....
评论来自
195310
Had this axe since level 37, I'm level 50 when i'm writing this and this axe is just too insane! People saying "dont use it in an instance" Like people need CC in lowbie ones.. i'm topping damage with this axe by around 40 - 80K lead in almost every instance i ran! out damaging high level people that me..
If your a shaman and you have this axe, If you have the money, i really suggest getting savagery on it, I still havn't found a suitable replacement!
评论来自
206534
Does the Bladestorm effect proc Windfury for Shamans? I have a 38 Shaman and I was wondering if I should go for this or another. Any other suggestions?
评论来自
112784
At my opinion one of the best twink axes... Imagine it whirlind with windufry proc on it... Anyway it must be used very carefully for example you must have an macro /stopcasting for taking out its effect when you dont want it :)
评论来自
NeroSama
You can DW this on the WotLK Beta ;)
评论来自
180362
I actually like this Axe. I never actaully used it in PvP (thank god...) but the proc is pretty good though while grinding.
This little baby came in handy in most parts of ZF such as the fight with Antu'sul. When he spawns those basilisks (and chaos ensues) and you simply need that extra AoE threat (Yes, I've tanked ZF with a 2h. It ain't that hard.)
And also during the Troll zerg rush. Had this Axe proc multiple times during that part and rarely did it spell doom for my group.
This is actually a very good weapon. Just be aware of your surroundings (When ever a mob is CC'd I usually back up....problem solved!)
评论来自
Shapeman
and from some recent patch the actual proc is now a buff and can be clicked off.Had a longer comment written for this post bout when my shammy had this axe but i accidently pressed backspace and it went back a page due to me not having clicked in the box you write in.Any way awesome axe but will the proc proc if you have windfury on as a shammy?Still have this at lvl 51 due to the awesomeness with this with rockbiter then a proc.Sorry about this comment geting so long and anways GL anyone whos unlucky farming this.
Shapeman or Gorbakastan,
Daggerspine
评论来自
220804
Uber fun as a high level paladin doing a low level instance for boost :P If you have Seal of Light activated it might proc from everyone around you =O So imagine that you have 20 guys around you.
And that it's about 50% proc chance. That would result in a 10*133=1330 healing every 3 sec =D
评论来自
220804
Btw anyone knows if Lifestealing enchant works nice with the Bladestorm effect?
评论来自
173812
I am sick of seeing hunters with fiery or any other enchant on this axe.
LET ME EXPLAIN...
1. Hunters never use melee more than wingclip.
2. Hunters shall have stats on weps, to increase crit chance with range e.t.c.
3. You are a huge noob if you put fiery on it as a hunter.
评论来自
Raserei
As of 10/6/2008 on the PTR, the proc on this weapon causes you to do damage with your mainhand weapon. This means it could be highly useful in large AoE pulls (Bloodboil trash or Hyjal trash waves come to mind) as a fury warrior with Titan's Grip. Offhand this, and use your mainhand like usual, and when it procs have a very powerful AoE attack that makes whirlwind look like a toy =)
评论来自
20151
You can make a macro to cancel the proc instead of right-clicking the buff, making it easier to stop it from braking CC etc.
/cancelaura Bladestorm
评论来自
crusader666
I was thinking over a insane idea, DW this on a TitansGrip -fury warrior, LOL
评论来自
232412
horrible for hunters!
评论来自
116751
Has anyone tried dual wielding this as a fury warrior? My fury warrior is currently level 54 and with TG looming up ahead I think it could be worth a go.
评论来自
63403
After much testing, I have concluded the following:
- If you have a Ravager in your Main Hand, and it procs, you will do damage equal to your Main Hand Weapon's (Ravager) damage when you spin.
- If you have a Ravager in your Off Hand, and it procs, you will do damage equal to your Main Hand Weapon's (could be anything) damage when you spin.
In my testing, with a S2 sword in MH and a Ravager OH, procs hit for 900, while in the same gear and Ravager MH, damage was around 500.
评论来自
106565
Shamans, if you want to cancel the whirlwind proc. Just cast water shield.
Simple.
评论来自
203775
Was running my friend throught sm on his arms warrior.
told him about this so we decided "K lets run till we get it". (he assumed lowdroprate = free xp)
First kill.
Moral of the story :
Ravager is a win ae and DWing it in OH with a epic MH = win
评论来自
BrandonVM
I have a retribution paladin who currently has this axe, and unless my combat log is mistaken, Seal of Command has procced during Bladestorm. EDIT: I tested it several times this morning, and Seal of Command does indeed proc during Bladestorm now.
评论来自
82808
Can not be tamed.
评论来自
258234
the axe is nice, its so sexy, sexyyyyy.. bu for warrior i think the stuff u get in warriorquest is much better, so dont waste ur time in scarlet, when the warriorquest rewards is much nicer.. but the axe is sexy tho
评论来自
Gvaz
This procs like every other swing for me at lvl42. I literally hate this weapon but at least I can click the debuff off!
评论来自
243362
This drops from Herod in Scarlet Monastery: Armory. But this axe sucks so...Go for Scarlet monastery: Cathredral(might have spelled that wrong) it's harder. But the last boss in there drops Mograine's Might. A two-hand mace with raw stats and okay damage. Go for that one!
评论来自
284045
With the new warriors end talent in fury, titan's grip, what happens if your bladestorm procs? Do you attack with both weapons or just the main hand?
评论来自
275613
ill agree its not the best axe for instances its still good for leveling or questing player in my opinion
评论来自
296216
hey personally this axe brought good fortune but i must say once i got the whirlwind axe
i couldnt w8 to get rid off it
评论来自
dernn
Anyone know if this is a PPM or a % chance to proc? (as in does haste affect how often it procs; if it was a % then yes, if a PPM then it wouldnt)
评论来自
alex692
I dont completely agree with you guys... I myself had this weapon as a lvl 40 in pre-tbc(i was dps). And thanks to that awesome proc, i always made a suitable rank on the dmg meter(and in pre-tbc palas were usually BAD dps!). Everytime i didnt want the proc to go off, i instantly casted a seal to end it. However for warriors, this weapon could be your worst nightmare and hunters would definitly not have any benefint from this axe(because it has no stats). :-P
评论来自
304778
it is a awsome axe for the a level 39 twink but is hard to get.
评论来自
186459
By Flolah on 01/28/2007 (Patch 2.0.6)
If you're a Paladin/Shaman/Hunter, you can also cast a spell or ability, and break it.
a hunter should not get anywhere near this item. this is an item for enhancement shammy, ret pally or a warrior. as you see, this item does not have any stats, only proc. a hunter shal never go melee. and PS huntards: for gods sake, don't roll for something without stats, and don't roll on items that have +strength. it gives you nothing, only melee AP. go for agi, int, stam. the warrior in my grp for RFK left when the hunter rolled for the corpsemaker, wich is imba for warr, but very bad for hunters. know what you need!
评论来自
178943
Just got this axe, and I have to say, it is awesome. At level 40, specced ret, I am pulling a easy 150 DPS on most fights. To confirm or reject the comments above:
This CAN proc off of Judgement of Command
This DOES proc Seal of Command
This CAN proc off of itself
This WILL proc Crusader and Mongoose enchants
Using any spell without a cast time will break the effect (Seals, Battle Shout, etc.)
Reckoning WILL proc off critical Bladestorm hits
People keep on saying you are gonna get rid of this weapon soon, but after you get better weapons, this weapon is still king in AoE fights. It procs often, and in massive AoE fights, even multiple times in a row, as it can proc off itself.
评论来自
Ironangus
For anyone that is curious, the single-target raw DPS for this weapon when you are doing the whirlwind is 45.166... or 45.2 rounded.
评论来自
248827
A fun, but useless axe when it comes down to it. the bladestorm like proc ability looks cool, but it doesnt happen often, and its not worth it, especially when you can get
bonebiter
from a quest that involves herod, which this axe drops off of.
评论来自
267194
Would this weapon be good Paladin, for Seal of Command procs?
评论来自
327893
i had this axe form 37-43 and loved it but always had a sheild and 1h wep in inventory in case i grouped with someone still have it for its looks =D
评论来自
Notaa
This is not unique, so a fury warrior can dual wield them as of 3.0.
I'm not sure if it makes any difference... but damn if it doesnt look awesome.
评论来自
326657
I Like this Axe Its Fun but if your Tanking I wouldent Use it. I have it on my Hunter and its Fun to Solo with It hits Hard and if you Raptor Strike Its Fast and It will Hit For like 200
评论来自
311118
Some people think that this weapon is useless against something like Bonebiter....
Wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXIiW2brIk&feature=related
Take that.
评论来自
162269
This is actually usefull for an warrior doing 30-39 bg and know how to stop it in time
评论来自
Darthdavo
While grinding for Silk as a paladin, i thought i'd !@#$ about with this, it turned out to be useful!
I Pulled every mob in Armory, put Seal of Light on, when it procced, Wabumff, full HP.
So it can be used for Health control as a pala which is a High level.
评论来自
69178
I actually enjoy this weapon very much on a Ret Paladin. I can imagine some severely painful possibilities later level and even end game.
The idea of a Ret Paladin (as we all know) at higher levels of solo PvE is to pull multiple targets and AoE them down -- it's much faster (not exactly mana-efficient).
This weapon just makes our jobs easier, and seems to proc very often. That being said, I've played with it and discovered some tricks, albeit difficult to frequently invoke --
If fighting a single mob and Bladestorm triggers, wait for the initial hit, then throw your Judgement. This weapon has the perfect speed to hit from Bladestorm, Judgement of Command, Seal of Command and your white-hit attack to hit -- all at once. If 3 out of 4 of these crit at once, your unlucky mob is in for some devastation.
Also, I've sometimes had Bladestorm proc while in a Divine Shield. The damage is sorely reduced, however it's nice to stand in it while you're being healed by Seal of Light.
A final note, if you're trying to dispel this effect when not needed, you can either cast a spell to remove it or right-click the buff. Be sure not to accidentally right-click your Vengance buff, being of similar colors to the Bladestorm buff.
EDIT:
I also think it's fair to say that most paladins reaping the benefits of this weapon are of the Alliance, which have a few other choices of armaments.
Highly recommended for a Horde Retribution Paladin for both effect, damage and pure, gorgeous aesthetics.
评论来自
348759
is this good for warriors?
评论来自
363328
Pretty nice for a Warrior too.
Use the Glyph of Cleave and you'll have a pretty high chance of activating this.
评论来自
363624
Does this proc with Titan's Grip? If yes, does it have to be in main hand? I looked around, but didn't find anything.
评论来自
267839
I've tested two Ravagers with a Fury Warrior (with Titan's Grip), here are the results to a few questions:
The beneficial buff is called Bladestorm, but does NOT use the Whirlwind effect. With both equipped, only one attack was released per target.
The effect CAN be triggered by special abilities. However, I am not 100% sure on this, because I tested this with Whirlwind, which instantly attacks with both weapons.. so it may not actually apply to certain abilities.
Hope that helped.
评论来自
235006
Just an idea of what this Axe is capable of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXIiW2brIk&feature=channel_page
评论来自
399307
lollollol1
评论来自
dreadblood
apart from the problems this axe has in dungeons its also quite an eyesore but other than that its quite good
评论来自
285068
fury titans grip warrior lvl 60 and 2 ravagers :P would pwn
评论来自
hashmel
From what I gather.
-the proc's Bladestorm causes MAIN HAND weapon damage +5 to EVERYTHING in range every 3 seconds for 9 seconds regardless which hand it's in /looks at the fury warriors
-if you have 2 Ravagers only 1 will proc at a time (would rather equip a higher top end damage weapon on the mainhand rather than a 2nd ravager imo)
-the proc immobilizes you for the duration
-CANNOT block, dodge, or parry during Bladestorm
-proc CAN break CC
-can right click off the buff
-attempting to use ANY ability will cease the Bladestorm and cast said ability
-proc damage is classified as physical damage
-can proc other "on hit" procs off bladestorm ie. poisons, shaman elemental weapons, on hit chants, seals
-best used on a fury warrior as an offhand with a near BiS mainhand
Something I'm unsure about though...
Bladestorm's damage is based on the mainhand regardless of ravager's item location so would Bladestorm proc only the mainhand's on hits, only ravager's since that's where the extra attacks originated from, or both weapons' on hit procs?
ie, Ravager with Battlemaster chant in the offhand, with say Berserker in the mainhand. would Battlemaster, Berserker, or both be able to proc off Bladestorm?
Food for thought.
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=7717
with
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=5421
for massive aoe damage, Bladestorm hits everything around you and Fiery Blaze then hits everything around everything hit by Bladestorm. (given this would be intended for vanilla content)
or...
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=7717
with
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/spell=28004
for some great healing not only to yourself but to the whole party within 30 yards, Bladestorm procs then battlemaster triggers left and right off the Bladestorm victims.
评论来自
Reptillian44
lol, i got this item the first time killing him. Its a good item I guess. Just not to good for mage, or warlocks, or any other spellcasting type.
评论来自
nerflocked
Just got this today on my enhancement shammy (5th run i think). Can't wait to wield it @ 37 :)
评论来自
454064
Make a macro:
/cancelaura Bladestorm
Now bind it to a key.
CC problem solved.
评论来自
Ariakis
With Ravager in 3.2.2, SoC will chain to hit up to 3 targets per target struck by whirlwind. With 3+ targets this means you will be dealing 3x SoC damage to each target.
评论来自
420507
As a level 80 Retribution Paladin, Ravager makes Seal of Cleave (Command) ridiculous for AoE. I was soloing Ramparts just for the hell of it and at one point, had a net DPS of 12000. Seal of Cleave hit every mob stuck by Bladestorm, which becomes insane as the damage causes several chain reactions of seal damage. I think if you run around some place like Icecrown and group the mobs near the Conflagration/Onslaught Harbor with a healer, you'll be able to drop entire groups in a matter of seconds.
评论来自
276195
I find this is brilliant on my paladin as AoE dps.
I used a bit before 3.2.2 and it worked fine but with the updated seal of command i have done 6.6k dps on the 4 training dummies(60).
I managed to reach 23k dps on onyxia.
The axe works very with the seal because for every one enemy you hit with it it hits another 2.So on onxya there was about 15-20 whelps each one got hit once then they all got hit twice.
Just watch your aggro :).
评论来自
473877
This is quite sick, when used with the new Seal of Command, each hit of the bladestorm proc casts a Seal of Command on three targets.
I placed myself in the middle of the 6 practice dummies in Theramore and started hitting. Once the Bladestorm effect activated I spun and hit
6 dummies for 200 physical damage each and got
24 procs of seal of command for over 2500 dmg total.
No idea why it is 24 instead of 18, but the more enemies you have around you, the more powerful this weapon gets. I'm sure this will be patched soon, right now this is just too awesome, even with only three mobs it procs Seal of Command more often than it should and mows down everything.
Have fun :D
评论来自
Xzatly
Testing the proc
in Scarlet Monastery.
评论来自
icritmypants
i wish they made an heirloom item though...a lot of ppl love this axe and lets face it...they only ppl who dont are tanks but i think they are just mad cause they dont get to use it =P
评论来自
436173
Does anyone know if this works well in conjunction with the
Crusader
enchant? Seems like Bladestorm would almost guarantee Crusader proc. No?
评论来自
Kalianos
So Wowhead I would love to share an interesting story about this axe, a lvl 80 fury warrior, and Onyxia getting owned.
Today a Guildie of mine told me the funniest story.
It was an onyxia pug and so everyone was going over the Strat right? Well this warrior suddenly comes in and bets 300g that he can out melee dps everyone when the whelps came out.
so my guildie inspects him, he finds the warrior has got some lvl 251, 245 gear mostly.
Except he was wielding two ravagers from Scarlet monastery.
The #$%^storm that happened when the whelps came out. every other hit apparently proc'ed and this warrior was spinning like a top murdering the whelps.
He did top the dps charts for that.
So watch out for of these old world items, might be able to have more fun than we think when we are at that top level.
评论来自
504286
What would happen if you'd be a fury warrior with titan's grip at lvl 80, you have been blasting on alot of stuff and only recently gained
Shadouwmourne
...
Since (as far as i've checked) Shadowmourne has the highest top-end damage in the game, and Ravagar takes the dmg of the main-hand, if you'd combine this in OH and shadowmourne in MH what kind of sick-ass dps you'd put out if Ravager procs?
Maybe once, after a while, someone will think of this... I can't wait :D
评论来自
217614
Damn... druids can't use axes..
评论来自
534544
I need to say that the rarity of this axe is a bit stressing... I've killed herod for 63rd time today and still haven't seen it drop
评论来自
301506
By krawnight on 11/05/2006 (Patch 1.12.2)
Lord, oh, Lord I hate this axe...
If you are solo'ing feel free to use it, but please do NOT use it in instances!
1) The damn proc will break any crowd control near you. Shackle, polymorph, sap, anything. As a mage, I want to kill the warrior using this thing that constantly breaks the polymorph but then refuses to move away from the sheeped mob.
2) Don't use this thing unless you have a really good tank or a lot of armor. If you are using this weapon then you are not using a shield and you will very quickly get a lot of aggro and mobs pounding on you. I just ran ZF with a paladin who used this and I wanted to kill her because when the thing proc'd then she couldn't heal herself and when everything started pounding on her and her life dropped like a rock I had to burn all my mana keeping her alive.
Truly, please don't use this in instances. =)
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I agree that if you are causing problems you should stop using but (personally) a poly isnt useful at low lvls snce only low lvls use this.
评论来自
301506
I'm sorry, but this is NOT a "fantastic weapon for pallies". Let's go over it.
While this is going (and note that it's only a VERY INCREMENTAL increase in damage), the following things will NOT happen:
1) Seal of Command proccing won't work.
2) Seal of Righteousness extra holy damage won't work.
3) Reckoning won't affect it.
I know because my current spec has all of these things and I've been watching.
So basically, all your special abilities that add LOTS of extra damage, are nerfed by the Ravager for A LITTLE extra damage. Stupid tradeoff.
OK so it does an AOE hit, but how often do you need that really?
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Failure. another AoE when at low lvls like this pally tanks have 1 AoE which cant hold aggro worth crap? gimme it
评论来自
Bram333
So recently turned 60 on my warrior and just to be fun i ran for a second ravager got it now i dual wield the suckers and its sooooooooooooooo funny in pvp vs. melee as soon as they get up they get knocked over again i lawled i very long time over this ill make a video and add it to my comment later
评论来自
matornot
This axe is awesome to have as a tank. At the req level, it's better than the heirloom axe, and no one really needs a shield for pre-bc dungeons anyway. No internal cooldown cuz i've had it proc twice in a row. And its range is pretty big, I'd say 10 yards maybe. No internal cooldown cuz it's procced twice in a row. 18 seconds of WOOOOO! afk bio
评论来自
204624
Bladestorm with Bladestorm XD
评论来自
Tritoch
Yo, we heard you like to bladestorm, so we put a bladestorm in your bladestorm so you can bladestorm while you bladestorm.
评论来自
Lacdaemon
Got this axe on my 1st Scarlet Monastery run what i can say bout this are :
1. It seems to have no cd, I observed 3 procs in a row.
2. Fiery blaze enchant ( a consumable enchant from a quest in badlands) also procs while Bladestorm is active.
* got this one on my warrior alt, just be careful for the procs when in a dungeon u might get all the aggro from this, though u can cancel the effect by casting another spell or right clicking on the buff* Enjoy!
Update: when it procs plenty of times in a row, the whirling animation will no longer show yet u still have the buff and of course u can still see the damage done.
评论来自
cazrik82
46+ runs no drop im beginning to think they took this drop out
run 52 did the trick
评论来自
CrittinRogue
I lost this weapon to a priest.
评论来自
316564
With groups pulling giant mobs at a time in SM and no CC, the Ravager has become a very powerful weapon for Ret Paladins who have "Seals of Command" as a talent and are using Seal of Righteousness. This equals out to every hit in the spin dealing both the initial weapon damage and holy damage done to 3 targets for every target hit with weapon damage. Not only that, but the effect of Seal of Righteousness is not affected by the 10 target cap on aoe, meaning even at this level your aoe dps can sky rocket to over 2k with something as simple as a 7 mob pull.
评论来自
bounchofbeaners
i have a lvl 85 furry warrior and it dose a lot of dammage around mobs but what is a good enchant that would increase its damage? i saw that fiery blaze was good but it got removed from game so wat is the best one now?
评论来自
784706
I agree, this axe is pretty bad for instances that crowd control is needed, but for instances where cc is not needed, this axe is amazing. Also, what i've found is that you can loot a mob while doing it, and your feet will keep on doing circles, but your upper body will stay put. but dont forget you can cancel it at any time by pressing <escape> or just doing another spell. so its ability is not a big deal.
评论来自
Vereesa
So I just killed every single attackable NPC (with Auto Attack obviously) in Ragefire Chasm on my level 85 DK without getting
one single
proc. Could it be because it doesn't proc off of overkills?
评论来自
851812
After you run the Armory about 3times it should drop but if u go to the dungeon and get somebody to run u make sure after u do the armory to do 1of the other dungeons or Herod will drop what he droped the last time he ran u.
评论来自
FuryWar
Seeing this axe again brings back great memories of when I was leveling my Arms Warrior back in Vanilla. I only ever used this axe when was soloing and would switch to another weapon in instances so that the axe procs wouldn't make me pull crazy aggro if it went off! Was definitely a fun toy! :-)
评论来自
875780
this is a pretty cool axe but not that good in instances i used this axe for a while its a fun axe to use when you hit lvl 37
评论来自
Naiek
Could be a major plus if a warrior used this to trick someone into disarming him (weapons proc), then switching to proper weap and doing the real bladestorm. Problem is the procrate of the weapon + lower damage done while using it.
Sure it can atleast be worth using while still building your Slaughter buffs, but still, low pressure @ start of arena match..
They usually start by ignoring you cause of low damage, either that or they switch to you thinking youre being boosted and might not handle the 'being nuked situation' so well. Never been disarmed on the proc due to low damage. Bah, worth a shot and still fun to try anyway.
评论来自
MABGamer6407
The Axe Of Herod himself, This is quite a Decent 2hander at This Lv. If correct On chance on hit It Makes you spin Attacking any thing close by, Just like Herods Whirlwind attack. Plus its a nice Axe over all. i do gota admit that most of what all you are saying, It does seem risky in a dun an quite Dumb in a Bg did't think of that till i read the other comments. Prob best to just use outside an questing.
评论来自
963983
I created my wowhead account because of this axe.
I've been on the transmog kick lately and while I wouldn't transmog this I found myself remembering how. Much fun this axe was. Haters gonna hate but hell it was fun, it let pallies bladestorm! It might not be the best for pallies but I loved it.
I remember well a battle with a warrior in arathi basin and he and I went at it with my wild herod axe bladestorms.
I dearly hope they do a bladestormin update of this weapon in MoP! So much more intersting than boring old "mastery crit haste hit and expertise."
评论来自
Thottbot
--------
Quote:
"This axe only looks good, nothing else.
It has like the worst proc in the game: when it procs you can't do anything for 5 secs you can just stand still and spin around, If that happens when your enemy is running away or you're just about to heal you can head into serious trouble.
I got this axe but decided to use
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=7180
instead because Ravager only adds one(1) more DPS to my overall dps compared to that one.
I Disenchanted it and only got a damn small radiant shard :). "
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1. its not the worst proc in the game
2. u have no clue what yur talkin about
3. this weapon is the warriors best friend
its 10secs, u spin, but its easily canceled, just try to use a diff skill, it cancels, by failing in the channeling process (this proc is channeled when it goes off)
this axe is a super rage builder for warriors, not to mention agro builder when there are multiple mobs (exactly what warriors want) and plus it makes u look sik!
dont post ignorance...
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok for all the retribution paladins this is for you!
When engaging a mob judge them with Seal of Crusder, then use Seal of command. When the axe procs your seal of command will proc with it 3 times in a row. MAD DAMAGE!
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok here's to clean up some questions about this...
1) Shamans - I am enhancement and no the flurry doesn't break the proc in fact the animation speeds up kind of looks funny heh. Windfury DOES go off during the proc although you won't SEE the damage scroll up it definately knocks the health off appropriately. I will do more testing with this as I am only 37th and just able to use it.
2) Paladins - I have a 60th paladin, I have been using this axe since I got it about last December. Since the last 1.6 patch I have found it will chain proc off itself now (Yes off of SoC as well). This is the hands of a paladin even 60th one is absolutely deadly in pvp provided people are dumb enough to stay in it's range. As an example for PvE it's STILL amazing even in the late raid instances. It's wicked fun in Zul Farrak at the temple fight with all the trolls, last time I ran guildmates through there no one even got hurt I spent the whole time chain proc'ing whirlwind and SoC off the top the whole fight lol was quite the sight.
Anyway this is a very good weapon for both my Shaman and Paladin, working on my fury warrior so I'll find out for him too.
评论来自
Thottbot
Keep this weapon. Im a level 57 Paladin, still have it in my backpack. There are instances later in the game with weak non elite mobs zerging you, and this really does come in handy when it procs.
Examples of instances: Zul Farrak. Blackrock Depths. Stratholme. Atleast those I remember. There are nearly always parts in instances with alot of weak mobs, that is when its time to switch from your main weapon to this badass axe and wait for the proc.
Also, it is probably the best looking axe in the game after my opinion, and also excelent to bring when helping low levels through newbie isntances =) Dont ever sell this if you are low on money or disenchant it, heed my warning.
Cheers.
-Theor, 57 Paladin, Nathrezim
评论来自
Thottbot
remember folks this is a G A M E and no amount of childish leet speak will make it otherwise. So, if your character has this weapon & you enjoy using it then good for you.
And for people who take offence at that.... watch someone die, then you might appreciate the 'real' life you've been given
评论来自
Thottbot
I dont understand why a Hunter would use this. A hunter that has to melee something to death is already a dead hunter.
评论来自
Thottbot
if you click on battle shout or anything else while it's proccing it cancels the proc. very handy.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is not very well suited for a Shaman.
First
: you can't get windfury to proc when you are all spinning around during the bladespin.
Second
: this actually
nullifies
WF - if the hit that initiates the bladespin also procs WF, the 2 extra WF hits will not do any damage. This happens more than you'd think and it's extremely annoying. I've had a mob at low HP and procced both WF and bladespin and WF definitely does not do any damage. Here is proof:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2064/ravagerne9.gif
- you can clearly see windfury had no effect whatsoever.
HOWEVER, if the very last hit of the bladespin procs a windfury, that
will
do damage (as long as one of those windfury hits doesn't proc another bladespin! I've had that happen). I think this is where people are getting confused with WF working / not working.
Remember, every hit of your windfury has a chance of proccing the bladespin, which means there is about a 45% chance that every one of your WF procs with this weapon will do nothing.
Third
: Flurry has no effect on the bladespin, so any charges of flurry you have going into the bladestorm go to waste.
Fourth
: Proc rate seems about 15% or so. Not reliable enough to decide to suddenly start AOEing monsters; but if you are already hunting monsters in packs anyway then it wouldn't hurt.
Fifth
: casting anything will disrupt the bladespin. This is both good and bad. Good because you can cancel it if you want, but bad because casting any Shock spells for extra damage on a target will cancel the bladespin.
I can say with complete confidence that this weapon will lead to a LOSS in true dps - for a Shaman, anyway - compared to another weapon with similar dps stated on the item, when dealing with single targets. Since Shamans don't get any good AoE's anyway, besides some very mana expensive totems, you are not going to run into many situations where you would want to use this weapon. One exception I can think of would be in an instance where you aren't healing. In PvP this definitely isn't worth it since you are always using your Shock spells, which would interrupt this weapon's proc.
So, in conclusion: Shamans, the only two reasons you would use this weapon is if it's over 10 dps higher than anything else you can find, or if you are fighting (not healing) in an instance with a group. That's it. Hoped this helped some of you guys who were wondering how the Ravager's proc worked in detail.
I've gone back to using my Corpsemaker, even though the DPS is 5 less (on the character screen, not the weapon itself) than the Ravager.
评论来自
Thottbot
Once again, hello all,
Im now 40, and love my SM gear. I was stupid to even consider mograines might over that OWNAGE axe...if your able to wield this, roll on it, this is a GREAT axe, nothing compares to it. I dunno what other classes crits are with this but with windfury, i can hit over 1k hits...its so BLODDY AWSOME. Any Warrior, shaman, hunter and pally see this drop and dont allready have it, roll on it. It will not do you wrong. Good hunting all, ty for your coments.
Forgus
40 Orc Shaman
Garona
FOR THE HORDE!
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Thottbot
a few things to say...
if you get this item, dont post how, why, or when you got it, nobody cares, look up, see all those posts that are now below threshold? they were from people posting about that bs, this is supposed to be informative, not a place to brag or cry that you have/cant get one etc.
anyway...
this is a good weapon, yes stats are nice, but i dont know if you have ever used this thing in pvp, it is amazing.
if the other group knows any basic team strategy, they are together in a pack, and when this procs, damage skyrockets, the weak ones wont get away, and this is damage others dont have to inflict, and your team in general benefits from this.
Im not saying that this is better than the alternatives, but, all in all, pretty good tbh
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Thottbot
Hey, it's me again (Glonor).Hey Ozzi above, what do you think about it for a ret paladin opposed to Mograine's Might, as I posted above? I agree the no stats make it bad for any hunter besides maybe a survival hunter.
评论来自
Thottbot
this weapon sucks for a hunter. dont use it! it offers nothing good for a hunter. mainly warriors, shamans and pallys
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Thottbot
forgot to mention about the lowbie instance running with ravager: aggro whole instance, you proc, hitting ALL of them at same time, killing them all. :D
RAVAGER FTW!
don't be hatin D:
评论来自
Thottbot
For all you hunter noobs thsi is not what u want.... this is a MELEE only weap.. and since ur a ranged class its pointless to have it..... find a weap with +agi or stam on it... and plz all u nooby hunters.. dont give us bad names... Humanslayer lvl 70 hunter Alterac Mountains..... HORDE FTW
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Thottbot
Wise comments are yellow.
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Thottbot
Now i'm level 37, soon 38, and i'm here to say how good this axe is. the axe is very good, the effect proccs often, (around very 10th hit) and it crits around 3-400, nice for 3 second cooldown, very nice axe.
Tojara Magtheridon
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Thottbot
ok dude if u were listening u would have known that u can cast any other spell/ability to stop the proc since its considered "Channeled" so if it procs and u dont want it just cast like battle shout or judgement or something
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Thottbot
when a pally casts a judgement on a mob that applys a debuff who's duration refreshes upon being hit by a melee attack from the paladin (i.e. judment of the crusader, light, wisdom, justice, etc) you "recast" the judgement thereby interrupting the weapon proc
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Thottbot
anyone know if these extra attacks will proc Windfury?
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Thottbot
I really don't understand why the debate is polarised around whether the Ravager is good or bad. The advantage with WoW is you can use macros to equip different items: since the Ravager drops just before you turn in the quest "In the Name of the Light", after which (if you're into axes) you can get the Bonebiter, you keep both and equip either according to the situation. Both are excellent weapons with advantages and inconveniences, and having both of them in your backpack is a great compromise. Those 2 are melee weapons, it's just not specced for hunters or magical professions in any case.
Also...THIS IS JUST A GAME
Althandren
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Thottbot
3words WARRIOR'S BEST FRIEND!
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Thottbot
im fed up of this instance i have had about 18 boost and 3 normal runs and not once has it drooped this ids getting pfftic it wont drop why ?
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Thottbot
I killed Herod five times to try and get it it didn't drop once but I got the helm shoulders and even the scarlet leggings :P So I'm running threw again to try and get it along with the shield And the Scarlet chestpiece, and the Tabard, I'm a level 32 pally in the Server Whisperwind just to tell you guys xP
评论来自
Thottbot
ROFL I just got the Chance on Hit 3 times in a row.
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Thottbot
droped on my first time going!
and i won it!
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Thottbot
u guys r lucky, i got this on my shammy when my mage friend ran me and it droped 7 times in a row >< i want my dam axe and helm and i already enchanted 1 with crusader :D
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Thottbot
Just got this yesterday on my 36 (now 37) Ret Pally. So far, I have absolutely no complaints. It's freakin' sweet. :D
And as far as the whirlwind proc, I don't know if someone said it earlier but if you use any skill, it'll cancel. As a Ret Pally, I usually just use SoC to cancel it if I need to. The whirlwind itself isn't bad at all if the enemies don't start moving away, but in case they do, it's not that big of a deal.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I runned SM 3 times and i got it1 :)
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Allakhazam
I've been through 3 SM armory runs so far. First time shoulder's dropped, I chose need and so did a pally. I lost it, because we all know pallies are very gear dependent. 2nd and third times this piece of crap dropped, it would be decent maybe, but I already got the whirlwind axe.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i think its cool with the whirlwind like attack it does really nhelps when dmg dealingmulyiplr mobs.......i can also intrupt it when casting holy light
评论来自
Allakhazam
This axe is awesome for a paladin aswell. SoC + proc owns. Have fun :)
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Allakhazam
i got this when i was lvl 33 in my first run in armory with guildies!
Edited, Thu Jan 19 20:20:04 2006
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Allakhazam
Got the 1. time i killed Herod:)
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Allakhazam
You will die in PvP with this $%^& of weapon. When it Procs, you cant move. Thats making you very vurnerable to casters... Not good in PvE either, if you have to flee while it procs... =/... and it procs quite often aswell...
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评论来自
Allakhazam
Ran about 10-15 times hasn't dropped once, helm is most common, followed by scarlet leggings, then shoulders, then ravager (from my personal expirience)
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Allakhazam
say i have lifestealing for fiery enchant or a trinket that has a chance on melee hits to restore life , does it work when it spins so if i hit 100 mobs i will be getting a bunch of life from those enchants and trinkets? JW for farming i die to fast in zerker because i usualy pull the whole instance of sfk hehe = )
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got one of these,
very
nice.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A very KIND stupid **** from my party rolled on it and won it, he cant even USE it.. im sooo pissed off right now..
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have one and at level 58, as a War. I still use it when needed.
It procs often. I once had three back to back procs on a pull of 5 elites. It was all over.
It also generates a LOT of rage, which is nice.
On the bug aspects:
1) To interrupt, I hit just about any other ability, or switch weapons.
2) On the getting stuck (I call it drilling in) if you type /camp and then cancel, you are free.
I have seen 400+ burst DPS off this and went through Dire Maul and ended several encounters in the 300-320 range.
it doth rock
-wogai
评论来自
Allakhazam
This axe is sweet on my orc shammy. It procs alot and complements windfury nicely! Awesome
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Allakhazam
Picked this axe up on my first SM run, and even prefer it over the epic Fiery War Axe. AE ofdamage is awesome to have and there are ways to stop you from tornadoing your way into the record books. All I do is hit one of my other spells (eg Mend Pet) and I automatically stop spinning. I'm a 42 NE hunter at the mo and hope to keep this axe for a while still. Can anyone give me some idea as to how long this axe is gonna last me before it becomes useless? Would appreciate it! Thanks!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got this tonight on my second run through the armory first run i got herods shoulder havent had a chance to test it yet though hope it rocks
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Allakhazam
Got the 1. time i killed Herod:)
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Allakhazam
I got this at 37 on my first and only SM run on my warrior. I've used this up to level 49 (and still cary it around). Unfortunately it's a bit too weak now, but I bring it out for when I'm doing lower level mobs because it's great in groups.
The proc is great. I ran RFD with this baby and anihalated all the regular skellys at the skelly boss (it procced twice in a row).
It also amused me to get countless comments like "what ability was that?" and "wow, you look really cool when that procs".
Overall it's my favourite weapon in the game for I had a lot of fun with it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Unfortunately, you can't move when this procs. This happens all the time with me, on the brink of me losing, it procs and i can just take 3 steps back, heal up, and pwn them when they get out of it. Great axe, but useless for PvP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a 37 enhancement shaman, and I love the ravager proc. Its 5+ weapon dmg every 3 seconds, which is better than its normal attack by .5 seconds. In a sense, your hitting the mob/mobs faster while spinning.
I also like that you can click a spell that has some cast time on it to cancel ww, but not have to finish the spell, or come out off the WW randomly in a BG with a shock when people think your stuck there lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
My level 44 pally got this drop when our guild did a dungeon run. I still have this weapon for melee. Altough I haven't played her since my account died....
评论来自
Allakhazam
The chance on hit is pretty frequent. once every 5-10 hits.
The effect is very cool, you start spinning for 9sec, then every 3 sec you deal 130-400dmg to every mob within 5 yards of you. The effect can be blocked, missed, ect... you cannot move durring the effect and you can't stop it. That can cause problems some times with monsters sheeped or sleeping.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well it is called the ravager. I would say it kind of like magically going into a sort of berserk rage.
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Allakhazam
Edited, Tue Jun 28 07:02:38 2005
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Allakhazam
i want this axe so bad, nebody on the proudmoore server wanna run me through until i get it? i will pay u 30g and give u all drops... accept the axe of course. ive run through this darn thing 25 times and havent seen the axe, they should really make it an epic boe..ararar
trucen-42 warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on my first run to SM ,probably just lucky
评论来自
Allakhazam
Becuase it is great fun! Yes it doesnt give you any ranged effects on it, but you can change weopons in combat, and if you get into melee its a hard hitter and great in pvp like wsg in the flag room!
Personnally i have dual weilds when im ranged then if all else fails and i need to get into gritty melle, i love this baby :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ran SM six times i would've gotten it everytime if it ever freaking dropped. Got everything but it sholder, helm, but no axw =(
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Allakhazam
ONE QUESTION: is this better then mograine's might?
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Allakhazam
you can get rid of the effect anytime by hitting another spell
it will just interupt and not cast anything
评论来自
Allakhazam
Edited, Wed May 18 19:48:38 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have been threw SM twice now and didnt get any my friends said not gonna take me threw any more can you guys help me to get the ravager AXe PLZ
评论来自
Allakhazam
I had a lv 60 run me through 3 times and got Herods shoulder,Ravager,Raging beserkers helm, so I got all the main herod stuff!:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this my 2nd time in Armory, other time my group was pathetic when Herod said "Blades of Light!", everyone kept attacking him and we all died...anyways, they let me have it because no one needed it (group was mostly cloth-wearers) and the warrior had it already. ! 1/2 more lvls to go till I use it, heard so many good things about it, especially the proc ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nice axe, useful for multiple mobs, especially since it can proc of itself, still using my Whirlwind Axe for 1v1 mobs usually.
Cummins : 42 Warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
have this on my 39 shammy with +35agi, it rapes clothies with a double crit
评论来自
Allakhazam
that axe is sweet and looks awesome but even though its two-hand its speed is very slow
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Allakhazam
ok listen to this. i am a lvl 38 hunter. well we kileld herod. i wanted ravager right. well my best firend is a warrior who was there but he lieks his whielwind axe so he said i could have and so did pally. right. well this rouge was saying whoel thign dont need dont need. right. Well he rolls greed! i was liek what the hell! hes liek i could learn it with training. The whoel group is tellign him he cant. But before that he draws liek 25 people and he blames my friend for nto being a good tank even though everyone sruvived. So i had it with him. i said to him f off and f me, i rolled need got it he kicks me out of gorup and reported me and i get a warning lol. Well axe is amazing i used in pvp lol kicked @$$. Wow its funny when horde jumps yo and your damain em all psinning liek a balrina. And now i made a gnome warrior named miniherod on greymane. When he gets to lvl 39 hell have full scarlet and ravager lol.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, earlier this weekend I was in an Armory run. On my second run this axe drops, and there was another warrior that was lvl 33 that needed it(I was lvl 35 BTW). His friend in the group FORCED me to pass on it, because it was the only reason he was there. I then went on to say that he couldn't use it yet, then he said, "u can't use it either yet so f off," then I said that he couldn't use it for longer then me, and he got really mad at me at that point and kicked me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i dont know why people say this is a bad hunter weopen.
a hunter will mainly use ranged, so the proc isnt a problem when you dont need it. The proc is also great if you get attacked by many mobs at a time and can not escape. For a hunter it is also great in pvp. you will probably only use it when facing a melee class such as a warrior. Ul do a ton of damage against them and if they back away, just cast a spell and start doing ranged damage. This axe is the BEST when u needa kill a lot of mobs at the same time. The damage beats volley and it lasts longer. Overall this axe is great for hunters if you arent losing a lot of stats using it and if you know how to use it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
can other procs go off while you are spinning around? For example, say I have Seal of Command on and the ravager proc goes off, would I have a chance of hitting all the mobs around me with the ravager hit plus a possible SoC proc?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Bonebiter's so much better:
咬骨之斧
评论来自
Allakhazam
A MUST to AoE!
Im lvl 60 warrior ARMS spec atm and I always have the ravager in my bag...
Certainly when Im helping a low lvl in lower instance like Deadmines or Stockades ect.
Run the whole room clear and lets hope that the Bladestorm pops out.
1 full Bladestorm to kill a whole room
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have run Armory about 18 times on my Belf pally and have never had it drop. It's either the helm or the legs that drop. I rarely get a helm but it's still there, I think 12.78% chance drop is pretty high in my experiance. And about you saying Bonebiter is better, that maybe the case, but did you ever think about HORDE? Horde cant even get Bonebiter, leaving Ravager as a better weapon. Next time don't compare without thinking about the other faction.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I found a nifty bug with ravager. I have a paladin with it, and whenever I land a hit during the spinning move, any buffs with a "chance on hit" effect proc 100% of the time! Seal of Command + Ravager is awesome!
Edited, Sat Feb 19 20:38:14 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was doing solo runs in SM last night to bosses (run...feign death at boss to drop followers). When I killed Herod this dropped (surprised me).
It's not a level 60 weapon, but it's cool as hell...procs often and racks up serious damage when it does. Even tho I'm 60 I'll be hanging on to this. If it rarely proc'd I'd probably dump it...but it goes off a lot. Fun.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was this close to getting the ravager
my group killed everyone and when e came up to herod
a bunch of 35 elites came out of nowhere
(i found later that when you fight herod they appear in the hall outside, so dont try running away)
killed us all but not before we killed herod
the ravager went up to roll
i rolled need
same with all of my group
(with the exception of a lvl 60)
i didnt get to say
but we all died
and as you know once you go back into the instance
you start at the beginning
and half of the elites respawneded
my group said that i couls have the ravager
since the guy that won it had his inventory full
so it was still there
we finally got back to herod
and guess what we found
the body had disapeared along with the axe
after that i yelled and i got so pissed
i ended up doing sm 4 more times
to try and get it agian
i have ended up with herods shoulder and the helm
and a couple of other things
but no ravager
well ill be seeing you
off to play another sm
Parkert-35 hunter Magtheirodon
评论来自
Allakhazam
This AXE belongs in any Warrior's backpack for those instances when you need to take on a bunch of non-elite mobs. I still use it when I am in Zerker Stance and I am level 60. I recently needed to go to Uldaman to train my Enchanting Skill(yes I waited until 60 to worry with Tradeskilling). This thing totally destroies the traps where you get 9 Scorpians. Have also used it to get past the Rat traps that you find in STRAT.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have runned SM armory 17 times and it still hasnt dropped
评论来自
Allakhazam
i use this for AOE on my 60 hunter, last night in naxx i did 40k damage on one of the living monstrosity packs before patchwerk just from its whirlwind proc. sure beats using volley
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Allakhazam
Ran through with a group, didn't even know about the axe and it dropped. Members were looking for the helmet, and said they did not care if i need rolled it, so i got it for my lvl 37 hunter. Had a good group
Thanks Evee and Teekee and others in group!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got the 1. time i killed Herod:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing procs constantly, it's actually kind of annoying because you can't move. But it's still a ton of fun if you're killing stuff lower level than you.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this the first time i ran the armory... heh
I got rid of it pretty quickly though...
Then later, after I had hit 60, I went back to farm the armory... So I could look like Herod XD
I got 2 of these axes while doing it... I found it much harder to get the helm.
I've only ever had that helm drop once, and that's while I was farming it...
But anyway, with the not being able to move part of it... All you have to do is either remove the buff, the weapon, or cast a spell, and it goes away... Hope that helps a little.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oh and on a side note, all you people that say Ravager suck? Well you are obviously just jumping to obviously conclusions. Yes mobs run away and your left sitting there spinning, yes people will run out of the way in BG, but thats GOING to happen. And there are mobs that DONT run away, over think about that? I dident think so. So think deep and dont just assume it sucks due to obvious things every will realize before the person even gets it. (Mobs dont run away = Ravager spin will hit them till there dead if it procs)
评论来自
Allakhazam
because you can hit Retaliation and within a few second's he alway's start's spinning and then for the duration of the Retaliation is does more DMG then you have ever seen if you havent done it..crit after crit after crit after crit, 1 word for it really,..Beautiful.. oh and if anything else is around they get the heck smashed outta them also... and yes, the way to stop the spinning if you can't hold the agro is by just hitting another option like taunt or hamstring or anything for that matter and he will stop...Best weapon ive had the privilage to use yet.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?241751
评论来自
Allakhazam
very strange, i wanted to see just how many mobs i could kill with this thing at once, so i trained a bunch, threw on sweeping strikes and retaliation and spun this baby up. Sure enough it starts chopping them up, but then i notice an odd thing happening. about 3 out of the 8 or 9 mobs i had on me were getting repeated misses, like 4 or 5 in a row it just wouldn't hit them. Something to keep in mind is that there seems to be a maximum number of mobs you can kill with this proc.
评论来自
Allakhazam
u serious about so hard not getting this item? u might hate me cause i got 2 of these. i had no use for one so i just vendored it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the weapon, is sooo, SLOW!
it looks pure evil tho WOOT
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is there a way to trigger that whirlwind, or does it just happen by chance?
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Allakhazam
Just got it today with my guild mates me (tauren Warrior LVL34) and this other(tauren Warrior LVL42)both rolled need i bet he was pissed i beat him by 1 and it pissed him off more i cant use it yet 2 and a bit more lvls
评论来自
Allakhazam
those who whine about having to do 6-7 runs to get this, all I have to say is.. FU! I friggin slaughtered herod 22 times today in order to get it.. I started at 14:00 and just got it now 23:30.. only got it for the skin and the proc.. it looks awesome for RP (my server is an RP server) good luck getting it, it's friggin awesome ^^
Kjarlot,lvl 60 Orc shaman, Earthen Ring server
Edited, Sun May 28 17:32:54 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
does it proc in pvp?
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Allakhazam
This axe dropped for me when my friend was running me. I didn't really have any intention of getting it; I wanted the armor more so I could look Scarlet-y. The axe woulda helped, but I knew it had a low drop chance, so I didn't have my hopes set.
So, it drops, and I'm like, 'Oh, hey, nifty. *hits need*'
I luv it, like, totally. With +7 damage, it looks nice. It's procced off of itself so many times, and I have fun with it each time.
Oh, hey Warriors! I don't know if this is already known or not, but you can cut the Bladestorm before it finishes by changing your stances. Nice for when you wanna switch in Berserker Stance so you can intercept the mage who thinks he cna get away from you when you're stuck spinning like a top.
评论来自
Allakhazam
We had an L37, L39, and an L47 run Herod last night. We only had one wipe the entire time until we got to him, The L47 died, and the L37 was OOM. I managed to kill him, and I was looking at this Axe when all of Herod's people spawned.
I decided that our dead Shammy should have a chance to roll for this item, so I turned and tried to fight. We died with about 6 of the minions left.
Upon respawn, we found that the whole effing place had repopped. So this axe rotted on my first-ever run through SM, because I was trying to do the right thing.
:(
评论来自
Allakhazam
If this weapon procs, and you switch weapons, the proc will cut off immediately. Bad news for when you want to have a more powerful whirlwind, but on the other hand, doing this will allow you to move again.
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Allakhazam
I have been using this for a few levels, and the Whirlwind Fuction worked like crap until the 2.0.3 patch on Jan, 9 2007. Now it works great. I'll sometimes whirlwind twice in a fight, and it hits multiple folks, and you know its working with a new icon that pops up.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Fought Herod twice with lvl 60+ friends. first time, the shoulders dropped, then the helm. glad i got those instead of this cause mograine's might is so much better for pallies. stats are better and hits harder and faster. if i get this though, ill prolly use it in WSG/AB casue of the CoH.
评论来自
Allakhazam
As a Hunter i can stop the effect by clicking something else.. like Mend pet/Wing clip etc.
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Allakhazam
I have this axe im a 48 hunter got it in my 30's but when it dropped i was only one that could use it and its a awsome axe.
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Jarlin 48 hunter Bloodhoof
Lorudce 32 Orc War Proudmoore
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got this weapon for my hunter the other day. had to raise the skill a bit. crit for 572 it's pritty good weapon. probaly use it for a while.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got a 728 crit with this at lvl 39
decent axe
评论来自
Allakhazam
i just got this thing in my first herod run. It's NOT better than the Warriorquest Axe (dps and max dmg), because it hasnt the +15 strength and +14 sta.
dunno about the proc, gotta test it
Edited, Sun May 7 08:52:58 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
HOLY HELL THIS AXE IS SO ANNOYING FOR ME TO GET! get this, first time it drops and i pass it, for a shammy (i realise now i shouldnt have >.<) he had a really crappy weap and he ran it again with me for the shoulders. So now im looking for about the 4th group run after that shammy friend. i get in one and, then i see theres a fellow warrior, i thought id discuss the drops with him turns out he *only wants the shoulders and helm* i told him id pass on the armour if he would pass on the axe (which he did know about) seems fair? welll he agrees and im happy, we get to herod and the ravager drops for me the second time i roll need, everyone else passes and guess what? the warrior backs down on the agreement and needs it, then he wins it! AND THEN THE PRICK IGNORES ME! so grievances aside (if u ever see buba on bloodscalp give him a /rude for me :P) <~~~ i hate dishonesty. once more im looking fer a group at the doors to arms, and a extremely extremely generous rogue offers to take me through to get this axe (for free :D :D :D), and we did run it....at least 13times! One of those times the ravager dropped (unfortunately he stealthed to herrod, and i couldnt get in range to loot it), so by the time we get there the damn thing despawened! WTF!. Ive been through SM ARMS at least 24times so far this is total bs, but i try to be patient. But no luck tonight, cause at 1am at night i get a group get all the way to herod once again then....4 DAMNED MOBS SUDDENLY SPAWN (not the ones after herod, or the ones in the room before) is that a glitch? cause we died cause of it. Then we all rez and the damned instance respawned! all of it! so we fight all the way to herod and the room just before it still has those 4 extra mobs. So inevitably even tho we put up a good fight, we still died as aggroing normal mobs aggores the other 4 aswell >.< this is my luck is it? ive had to get favours from the swell guys in my guild and the ones out side of it. So now i am once again looking for a group for sm arms, im going to get this axe even if it kills me.
/cry
wish me luck for the for me next run(s):D
评论来自
Allakhazam
It's a nice wepon nice dps better dps then wirlwind axe i might say...
But it has 2 greatre flaws it has no stats what so ever, and if you're chasing somebody in a bg (especially if he has the flag) it's pretty enoying to go in a blade storm right then
评论来自
Allakhazam
Me too. Beginners luck I guess
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got 3 whirlwind procs in a row.. 2 times off itself.. and 3rd time from a normal melee attack after it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im thinking of doing Arathi Basin and im a lvl 38 hunter. should i get this as my melee weapon?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Even at Level 60 you can use it for large AE Pulls of trashmobs, keeps the initial aggro off the mage for a bit and does indeed quite a bit of damage when applied to more than 3 targets.
iirc this proc is unique and you'll want to hold on to this bugger for special encounters even if you have a much higher DPS 2hander.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know around at what level I should visit scarlet Monastery? IM Lv. 34 Currently and desperatly want this one.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got this axe at sm at lvl 38 i am now a lvl 40 pally and it owns i recomeened it
评论来自
Allakhazam
I definately agree with Hazestorm. This axe is pathetic compared to Bonebiter. The stats are wonderful and the damage is pretty much the same. Plus, even though the proc is good when your facing a large mob, it keeps going and going, and smart Humanoids will run away and avoid the proc and take the opportunity to attack you from range while your stuck whirling around like a spinning top.
However, you can cancle the proc by using a skill, but doesn't it seem a bit rediculous to have to use mana every time you want to cancel the proc so your not completely helpless when it activates? This also has great consequences in PvP. Everyone that sees that axe will immediately know to run away and escape the proc once it activates. It's like performing a magic trick that everyone already knows how to do.
Trust me, as a previous Ravager and Bonebiter user, I can tell you that when everything is thrown into the scales, Bonebiter will be rated higher. I've compared the two and you do much more damage with Bonebiter, and it gives you health, compared to Ravager, which in turn gives you an OK chance on hit while you are stat deprived.
But thats just my opinion, and there are even fools out there that go with Ravager just because: "it looks better."
评论来自
Allakhazam
This axe is awesome. it's slighty better than the Whirlwind Axe, but when I do an instance run for gold in a place I can solo or taking some lower levels through, it comes in handy. Plus when I start spinning, I start humming ridin' spinnas. CAUSE IT DON'T STOP!
评论来自
Allakhazam
when i was lvl37 all the way up to lvl46 then I got rid of it for stoneraven but it was a great axe.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The only reason most people don't like this axe is because of the coh but hell if your a pally or a class that has a spell just use it and it will cancel it out.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just switch weapon and the spinning stops.
评论来自
Allakhazam
has anyone noticed a bug with this proc that occasionaly prevents you from moving AFTER the effect is over? I've had this happen twice (once I even had to log out to fix it -- even summoning a mount or trying seal of freedom didn't unstick me)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok I just read like 40 posts about people just saying "w00t!1 i just got one!1!", anyone know if this is good with sweeping strikes in WSG/AB?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Firey.
Blaze.
Enchantment.
From.
Badlands.
The pwnage will now begin.
General Angerforge called in reinforcements? Get out Ravager.
Going through the room before the Emperor? Get out Ravager.
Dire Maul non-elite flowers headed your way? Get out Ravager.
Oh, and here's the really insane part... use it in Defensive stance so your aggro is mega.
Ok, so I ran Armory about 30 times, and finally Herod parted with his axe, and I slapped the Fiery Blaze enchantment from the Badlands on it.
And honestly I'm a little disappointed with the performance. The Ravager proc happens often enough, but the Blaze seems far less common. Of course, this is a hunter, maybe a Warrior triggering Retaliation (or just spamming the usual warrior stuff like Sunder, Hamstring, and Rend) will have better results.
Eh, one of these days I'll find out. Unless someone else wants to give it a whirl...
Edited, Jul 14th 2006 at 2:01am EDT by SausageVendor
评论来自
Allakhazam
i've done SM lik over 100's of times.......and no drop...and this drop lik 5 times in a row for my friend....-_-
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing is quite sad compared to Bonebiter, only useful to farm low level mobs if you ask me. 20 str and 100 health are really better than a proc which isnt THAT good at all
评论来自
Allakhazam
xcaliboar better imo
评论来自
Allakhazam
im pissed off bcuz if have done armory 16 times and evrythin has dropped but ravager
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hehe, I've seen a Paladin with this weapon in SM.. He moved or something to remove the effect but the graphics were delayed because of lag or whatever so it looked as if the "whirlwind" was moving around.. like a tornado! ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it but its so annoying on pvp... useless. But overall a good two hand axe.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a great Shammy weapon if you go enhanced. It can proc off a Windfury proc. Not only can it proc from a windfury proc, but it can proc Windfury while spinning. When it does that OMG. It doesn't apply the windfury procs immediately, forinstance, you swing, it procs the spin, and the first hit on the swing procs Windfury. You won't see the windfury procs till after the third hit. Once you done spinning it'll hit it with all of your missing windfury procs. Then those procs can cause the spin again, lol. I've been in an instance, started spinning on the first swing, had it proc windfury 2/3 times during that proc. At the end, 4 windfury hits tore everymob around me up. thats right, when windfury procs from this things proc, it hits every mob that the Axe hit. Then after the 4 procs went off, it proc'ed again. Nothing was standing before I even stopped spinning. The other great thing about that run was that another shammy had it and was doing the same thing. Was a very fast instance. They warrior was like, why am I even here?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got one of these a few days ago and its definitely a fun weapon but there are a few drawbacks in my opinion especially if you cast any spells.
- Humanoid caster mobs will a lot of the times just move out of the way of your whirlwind and then they are hitting you with spells while you sit there spinning air for 9 seconds.
- If your like me and like to wait until your health is down to 25% or so before you cast a heal spell, you find yourself screwed if you start spinning and are unable to cast that heal spell while something is still draining your health.
- I don't think this weapon is real effective in PvP. Any person your fighting is just going to move out of your way until your finished spinning so your not doing any real damage to them.
I haven't tried stopping the effect as you suggested above but I have experienced it stopping from something I'm doing so I'm sure your probably correct. I'll have to experiment more with that. That could definitely help with the usefulness of this weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
sweeping strikes + ravager proc FTW
评论来自
Allakhazam
the Proc on it is random, but it is good, i knwo some ppl that use this at lvl 60 for farming, and i plan to do the same, wiht fiery on it it is good for PvP and for FArming, proc with whirlwind and proc with fiery, best combo ever.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Step one: Find a rogue/druid level 50+
Step two: Wait at the entrance while he kills herod then klick need.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a superb axe which I recommend to anyone. It procs like crazy ! I had it proc like 7 times in a row for me on several occasions, it's such a life saver !
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive run SM arm twice now...first time i got shoulders...second time i got Ravager. I had the Whirlwind the night I turned 30 or 32 (whichever it is that you have to be to use Berserker). I was 37 when i got this thing...and so far I like it. Technically the DPS is .4 less because it doesnt have the STA stat, but I think that it consistantly hits harder. And the proc happens so often that I think it is definately worth the loss of stam. I havent used it in PVP yet...although i can see myself going back to the Whirlwind axe for PvP.
Now back to the monistary for the legs and helm... :-D
评论来自
Allakhazam
kinda like it for dmg doing but it's indeed quite annoying when you start spinning and undo a sap or poly ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just have two problems with this
1. Its the slowest weapon I have ever used, which doesn't apply to Herod :P
2. When your doing bladestorm you cannot move. So when a mob is running away and then gets his friends your bascilly F*cked if your in an instance.
Edited, Mon Jun 20 23:32:58 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
is ravager good for a lvl 38 warrior?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is this better than Whirlwind Sword, and often it procs?
评论来自
Allakhazam
doesn't it have + to Stats like Sta and Stg
评论来自
Allakhazam
i am a lvl 32 palley i love my palley but i cant use this or majority of scarlet stuff even though its reall kool:(
评论来自
Allakhazam
ON my Twink hes 37 atm
i Whirlwind proced In Sm tanking 3 times in a row it proced off itself..
lol
thats crazy
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wow its funny when horde jumps yo and your damain em all psinning liek a balrin
does that say pissing like a bananna, or pmsing like a balarina?
评论来自
Allakhazam
alright let me set some things straight
pros: for all the people that think that this wep has no porpose, it does! running low lvl instances and powerlvling people (at least for warriors) this thing is god. the proc is so good for this porpose. especially for mobs who dont run away (preferrably sfk which is great for assasin's blade and shadowfang)
cons: in pvp, this wep is not very good. and the drop rate could be better probably another 20% lol XD
P.S. what is the best enchant for this item for runnin low lvl instances?
P.P.S. i hope to be making vids of me farming with this on my warrior. so look for that in the future
评论来自
ninjalink99
this is BY FAR the weapon i am MOST excited for when classic launches. i don't care if it is not the best weapon, i just want it for fun and meme value. and if i don't see a new screen shot of a full dungeon group spinning at once i will be disappointed lol.
评论来自
hawkinjs
I've ran this dungeon 30 times now and not had this drop a single time. I'm not convinced 14.85% is accurate.
评论来自
Flexible
If you’re a warrior and get this... Congrats!
It can proc of each other. :D
Sweeping strikes —> Whirlwind —> Bladestorm —> Laugh
A tip for you that I haven’t seen so far.
Macro: /cancelaura Bladestorm
Put it on your bar so you can cancel and move on demand.
评论来自
gwsm1992
Oh how things change. Once a thing people hate. Now, every warrior, paladin and shaman want it for AoE leveling
评论来自
hurtado64
Note that this weapon will proc with any enhancements that you put on such as flametongue, and frostbrand. However,
Windfury
does proc, but the effect does not trigger
until
the end of the bladestorm and triggers on the next swing, so use it wisely to cleave and target a specific mob to release your windfury on.
The best way to see if windfury procs is through an addon or going to Interface Options > Combat > Enable Floating Combat Text.
Also, you can use flametongue totem for your party members with this weapon, and it will work on their bladestorms.
Just windfury totem should have a similar outcome as windfury enhancement.
In addition, placing down totems will cancel this bladestorm effect during a swing, so place your totems before or after you swing. This happens with shocks too.
Just time your spells and swings, and you should be fine.
评论来自
Stugs
The ravager proc can proc weapon enchants.
评论来自
dunkelheity
The comment below is in reference to WoW Classic.
🔍
This weapon is most useful to a Protection and Retribution
圣骑士
, but it's best utilized by a Survival
猎人
. Enhancement
萨满祭司
takes the third place in priority, as a
战士
has their
旋风之斧
from Class Q., which proves to be better for overall DPS as a
战士
, both for leveling and dungeons.
🔍
An upgrade for all of the above mentioned classes is the
咬骨之斧
, which is an even better weapon suited for DDs, with the exception of Survival
猎人
, who can, if they so desire, use this weapon up to LVL 60 and even in raids. The AoE is stronger and more consistent than
, which has a 10 SEC. CD and preparation to cast. Protection
圣骑士
can also keep using the weapon, as they can successfully complement the AoE with
, but their defense would suffer in the early 50s, as they rely heavily on receiving the actual DMG.
🔍
The BiS enchant for this weapon is without a doubt the
炽热魔符
, allowing for very strong AoE tanking in a party and raid environment. For solo-play the
附魔武器 - 十字军
strictly outweighs those benefits and comes at a strong second place.
🔍
The weapon, along with it's complementary enchant, allows for insane AoE tanking as a Melee
猎人
, as the procs from the weapon can be triggered continuously with
摔绊
, and the breaks could be used to
假死
, with Pet Control on
Tamed Pet Passive (DND)
, into
爆炸陷阱
.
🔍
When using the weapon, one should consider all forms of explosives to use in conjunction with the AoE effect, with the best ones being a
爆炸水晶
or the
简易投掷炸弹 II
.
🔍
Three and more of the
破坏者
in a party can completely wreck through packs of 8 to 10+ elite mobs at LVLs 30s and 40s, with appropriate healing. The tactic is know as "
Bladestorming
".
评论来自
Utmostownage
Has anyone tested this with seal of command for paladins? How does it work during the bladestorm? What about other seals like Light or Justice?
评论来自
BTheM
Trust me
you want this Axe
it will take you hours BUT THE PROC IS WORTH IT!
评论来自
Walhell
Nice weapon for aoe pulling.
If u want to cancel spinnin use this macro:
/cancelaura Bladestorm
Or Rclick on buff
评论来自
Enina
The proc can chain from itself
, so if you have enough enemies, it will pretty much keep going until most of them are dead. It effectively hits as a regular weapon strike, and
it will trigger enchants and the like
. Multi-hit attacks such as Cleave and Whirlwind have a chance to trigger Bladestorm
per hit
.
Beware of proc-fishing, because
using another ability during Bladestorm will end it
, so don't get too spammy with your abilities when trying to trigger it--you'll just accidentally cancel it if it does proc.
评论来自
Hopesedge
As a shaman Rockbiter weapon works amazingly well with this weapon for threat, it also increases the damage of your hits by a lot.
I was levelling together with a priest, and one of our strongest assets was having me use this axe with rockbiter weapon, and pulling 5+ mobs with an improved stoneskin totem down. If it didn't proc we'd have to kill them slowly with things like magma totem and normal attacks, but if it procs it not only holds threat on everything immediately, but everything dies extremely quickly. It was even strong all the way through level 55, pulling 8 enemies in Un'goro Crater to aoe them all down was very efficient.
Some more details on things I noticed: It can proc windfury weapon, but the extra hits won't happen whilst you're spinning, you seemingly get a invisible buff that gives you a windfury attack on your next normal attack within 3 or so seconds, so if you're spinning and you see a winfury proc animation (whirl of wind around you), then you can cancel the spin and get a guaranteed windfury on your next hit. sometimes the last tick of the aoe can proc windfury, which will immediately attack with that windfury doing a huge amount of burst, and those windfury hits can proc the axe again for you.
When you finish spinning, sometimes the last hit will proc another spin, but the damage from the second spin will be applied immediately, if this happens it'll take 6 seconds before you actually do damage again with the spin, this is because your 3 hits over the 9 or so seconds are always limited to 3 hits, and getting 1 hit immediately doesn't change the time that the next 2 hits take place. So it's often better to just cancel the spin if this happens as 6 seconds of no damage can be a long time, especially if things are going to be dead before that.
Frostbrand applies it's slow to all enemies it hits whilst spinning, which can be great to stop fleeing enemies during big pulls.
Flametongue does about the same amount of damage as rockbiter but without the threat generation, making it the ideal weapon enhancement for dungeons if you're going to use this weapon.
Using any abilities, or simply cancelling the spinning buff with stop the spin, this is extremely useful when you need to chase someone or run away.
It CAN proc off of itself, leading to very long periods of spinning nonstop, sometimes it'll proc in the middle of the channel, sometimes right at the end as mentioned prior.
If you get disarmed whilst spinning you'll keep spinning but with your unarmed skill taking over and doing damage, as such it's a good idea to keep your unarmed skill up to get a little bit more damage in those cases, or use a steel weapon chain to prevent yourself from getting disarmed!
Whilst spinning you can't be knocked back, this is extremely useful in certain niche situations, for example some mobs like
火焰使者
will continuously knock you back whilst fighting them, but if you start spinning you will be rooted in place.
Because the axe can only proc on melee attacks, be sure to use any abilities in-between attacks rather than on them if you don't want to accidentally cancel the spin if it were to proc.
The attacks can miss, parry, block, dodge and crit.
Trinkets and affects that can proc from attacks like Dragonbreath Chilli &
暗月卡片:漩涡
can proc during the spin, making them quite valuable.
Whilst you're spinning you're very vulnerable, and you'll be generating a lot of threat from the aoe damage (especially so if in Defensive stance, using Righteous Fury with Seal of Righteousness, or using Rockbiter Weapon), so be sure to wear heavier armour than you may otherwise like so healers don't hate you, elixirs of armour can also help greatly.
Mobs with ranged attacks will attempt to run out of your melee attack range whilst you're spinning (as they consider you rooted), but the axe will still hit them due to it having an extended attack range, as a shaman against shooting enemies Windwall totem is your best friend for this, combined with stoneskin you can massively reduce damage taken whilst spinning and not spinning allowing you to safely pull multiple mobs.
This last one may be a bug, but I've experienced it many times, sometimes your auto attack with proc the spin, the but spin will immediately be cancelled, I'm not sure what causes this.
评论来自
Shikieiki
Great axe for boosting low lvl dungeons.
Many may know that there is a AoE Cap on Classic TBC, meaning after hitting more than 20 enemies in a single AoE spell (like arcane Explosion or Blizzard) it will start sharply cutting down your damage.
However, the Bladestorm effect of Ravager is not limited by the AoE Cap. Meaning those 1000+ crits can hit any and every unit that is within its range.
If you are a warrior and want to stop spinning, you can either click away the debuff, use an ability like Hamstring or change stance.
评论来自
NagisaStreams
Yes you can Titan's Grip it to dual wield it in offhand.
How good is it? Not very by the time you can do this.
Is it cool? Yeah.
Does it even proc more? No idea.
评论来自
Masterwar15
Having this axe is how it feels to be a gigachad
评论来自
123user
I'm surprised there's not much reliable data on the proc rate of this thing. So, here's what I found buried in a theorycrafting discord chat:
Recorded hits:
9654
Procs:
605
Proc chance:
6.3%
PPM:
1
Other:
Channeled ability that makes you immune to Knockback effects, deals 3 instances of damage over 9 seconds in an 8-yard radius that deal an average of 136 plus 1 damage for every 4 AP you have. Scales with Melee Crit and Melee Hit, crits for 2x damage and damage is reduced by enemy armor. Swings can proc itself (refreshing duration) and is a Phantom Strike (meaning each strike can trigger effects like WF/SOC). In TBC the Ravager proc swings are considered full melee hits and can proc anything a normal melee hit can but can also be dodged or parried.
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