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评论来自
366497
Finally an heirloom weapon for all the Enhancement Shamans out there.
评论来自
Dunia
This would give you very good reusable dual-wielding weapons for leveling a Shaman, Rogue, Warrior, & Death Knight.
The only class you could not reuse this weapon for dual wield leveling would be a Hunter.
Depending on what remaining classes you would like to level up, 2 of these maces could likely be the best all-around choice over the daggers or swords if you need to be frugal with your badges, shards, seals, etc. They might not be the optimal stats for each class or spec, but they are certainly viable while leveling.
You could quite easily level every class with 2
Venerable Mass of McGowan
, 1
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
, 1
Dignified Headmaster's Charge
, and 1
Charmed Ancient Bone Bow
.
Too bad Blizz picked this item for their heirloom mace. I would have much rather seen either a
Beautiful & Unique Fight Club
or a
Magnetized Mallet of Zul'Farrak
(even though the mallet was not always an equippable weapon, nearly every pre-TBC player had one in their bank)
评论来自
Muir
This has had it's dps reduced to 120.0 at level 80 in the latest ptr patch, all other stats are unchanged.
评论来自
Nighteyes
In general, from what I've seen of heirloom weapons, they will usualy be on-par with a blue item within 1-2 levels below the current level of the character. So while if you do get a dropped item at-lvl and itemized for your class, it will once again be better to use the heirloom a lvl or 2 later.
also, scrolls of weapon enchants are still useable on heirloom weapons.. confirmed personaly with a +7 weapon dmg chant on a weapon vellum 1.. not sure if the Outland and Northrend chants work.. but the old Azeroth ones will stick.
评论来自
dezziedc
This could be good for a twink Rogue? How would this item rate against the standard list of main hands that are considered good for a rogue?
评论来自
317502
gotta love typo's:
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).
评论来自
neomasterc
improved version of
Mass of McGowan
评论来自
430449
This thing has 120 some DPS, but now needs its stats changed too. I really hope Blizz finds out about its OP stats to match its lower DPS. Otherwise, i wasted on the Venerable Dal'rend's Sacred Charged b/c of this mace.
评论来自
427962
Anyone know what will buy These (IE Emblems of Heroism Valor Conquest Triumpth* or If its gonna be bought With Champion's Seals) and if so How Much of Said Currency*?
* Spell Check :)
评论来自
266285
I believe you're going to buy it with either Emblems of Conquest or Champion's Seals, depending on who you're talking to.
There's a vendor at the Argent Tournament who sells heirlooms to people with the Crusader title for Champion's Seals, while the guys at Dalaran will probably either have the new heirlooms added to their entourage or another vendor will be implemented for them, either way they'll probably cost Conquest emblems due to the way they're changing emblems next patch.
Edit: Any reason why you guys are downranking? At least provide some info about how I'm wrong before downranking.
Edit: As of the release of Patch 3.2.0, it is official that there is a NEW vendor at Dalaran who now has ALL heirlooms, and sells them for Heroism emblems.
评论来自
229018
I'm almost inclined to think the damage will be reduced, unless i am missing something this BoA item is better then or equal to all 10 man naxx and most of 10 man ulduar weapons(barring hard modes) in terms of raw damage output. The only downside would be the inability to enchant it with proper 80 enchants. Still though, the thing has more top end then Calamity's Grasp.
Don't suppose it really matters though, with the new dungeons naxx is going to be easier then kara was at the end of BC, and Ulduar hardmodes will likely be taking on the same aspect that timed ZA runs had.
评论来自
361340
Does anyone else think this item name is a bit funny?
评论来自
17193
@ 49...
68-127 Damage
(35.0 damage per second)
+6 Agility
+10 Stamina
Equip: Increases attack power by 9.
Equip: Increases critical strike rating by 4.
Compared to other slow weapons in the bracket:
Thrash Blade
Bloodrazor
Bonesnapper
Gryphon Rider's Stormhammer
and
Ribsplitter
with comparable 7/7 agi/stam
So for at least Enhancement shaman, this is now the best weapon in the bracket.
评论来自
330207
What would be better heirlooms for a levelling rogue, two of these maces, or the pve sword and dagger ?
EDIT: A Troll Combat rogue, to be exact
评论来自
geppel
Can you put windfury or other elemental enchants on it? I only ask because DKs couldn't enchant the arcanite reaper.
评论来自
201510
2x15agi enchants should work nicely :)
评论来自
Hirru
Are the current stats for a level 1 character? I'm confused to why there is no stats on this weapon, or any of the other newly added bind on account items.
评论来自
420098
Hi, I am an enhancement shaman. Is there any reason to get two of these rather than two Grimhorn Crushers?
I don't raid, PVP, or do many instances, so my gear options are limited to what I can get solo. I am also not great at figuring this stuff out, so forgive my ignorance. I appreciate any help. Thanks!
评论来自
260968
From what I've seen of the supplied screen-shots... am I the only one who sees this looking like the Hammer that Thor uses? The Mjǫllnir?
评论来自
Tygeer
Can anyone think of a reason that this costs 15 Champions seals more than Dal'rend's (75 vs 60) but the heroic badge cost is the same for the each(40 padges per)?
Am i missing something?
评论来自
Gawwad
Are shaman enchants (rock biter etc) visible on these if you enchant them with +15 Agility for example?
评论来自
Stigmata
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems superior to Dal'rends in every way except for some tiny stat trade off.
评论来自
ZeroStar
The Currently listed stats are Incorrect.
(Currently listed on Wowhead at Level 80)
Venerable Mass of McGowan
Binds to account
One-Hand Mace
349 - 524 Damage Speed 2.80
(155.9 damage per second)
(1415 feral attack power)
+29 Agility
+44 Stamina
Requires level 1 to 80 (80)
Item Level 1
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).
Equip: Increases attack power by 39.
(According to In-Game at Level 80)
Venerable Mass of McGowan
Binds to account
One-Hand Mace
235 - 436 Damage Speed 2.80
(120.0 damage per second)
(913 feral attack power)
+29 Agility
+44 Stamina
Requires level 1 to 80 (80)
Item Level 1
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (35.29% @ L1).
Equip: Increases attack power by 39.
The damage range is VASTLY lower... And here I had my hopes up! :(
Don't make the same mistakes I did! I had prepped for 80, only to have to change my set-up right when I leveled!
评论来自
18933
wowhead seems to be mixing up the stats. This is the stats for 2h weapons. On the 2h weapons they list stats for caster weapons. And on caster weapons it lists stats for 1h melee weapons. Just bugged for now
评论来自
Kingrames
I'm not sure if this is still relevant, but a while ago, there were a few shaman healers that were dual-wielding to get two spellpower weapons. Blizzard responded by nerfing all spellpower weapons to be main-hand only. This, however, is a weapon that can be used in the off-hand, so it does in fact change that again. Does it matter? probably not. I imagine talents have changed quite a bit since then but it's a bit of interesting trivia.
评论来自
456593
never saw this but its pretty nice,i just got crusader title
评论来自
Bluespark
How would dual wielding this as a combat rogue be? good bad or fugly? Thinking about purchasing a set of these for my rogue/shaman leveling.
评论来自
Macharius
would this be a good item for leveling a prot paladin? and if not, what would?
评论来自
lock101
I just had to disagree with an above poster. It might be easier to buy heirloom items with the champions seals, but unless you were already exalted with all your faction's major cities, it can be quite a pain to unlock the Vendor(imo way too much bs to do just to be able to use a vendor) to be able to use the champion's seals on heirloom items. Anyways, I just did pick up 2 of these for my shaman and haven't got to use them yet as my shaman is just 32 atm, just did decide to start leveling a shamy a couple days ago, can't wait until I can dual wield as I've heard its a ball.
评论来自
JohnsonQPew
After the shoulders and chest, this should be your next priority for leveling an enhancement shaman. Ideally, you want to have two by the time you hit 40 and get dual-wield.
The BEST strategy from 1-40 would be to use a 2h heirlooms, either the Bloodied Arcanite Reaper or the Repurposed Lava Dredger. However, if you don't have one of these sitting around -- or you aren't keen on purchasing one for your shaman when it will only see 40 levels of use -- one of these, combined with a nice shield, will do very well for getting you through most of 1-40 (while its twin waits in the bank for the light of day).
The reason is that, unless you're willing to spend gobs of money constantly updating your weapon with twink pieces and other assorted rares, the dps on this weapon as a 1 hander is better than any 2h you can reasonably acquire on the auction house.
I find that MOST green "of the x" 2h weapons have 10 level tiers -- so that you'll find a new selection of green weapons with a level requirement of 11, 21, 31, etc. At the required level -- i.e. at 21 -- the mass is only slightly behind the new green weapons, usually something on the order of half a point of dps. Then, as it scales throughout the next 10 levels, it quickly exceeds the 2handers.
From 1-31, when you're using rockbiter or flametongue, the speed/damage range of the weapon doesn't matter so much. As a result, I think you'll find using a mass with a premium enchant (crusader, lifestealing, fiery, +15 agility) along with a shield will be more convenient and better for most of those 30 levels.
The one exception to this strategy is that when you hit 31, you really want to get a 2hander because the damage range will be more favorable for your new windfury weapon. But, by the time you get to 35-36, you'll find the scaling on the mass has gone up enough that the damage range once again favors using it with a shield for the last 5 levels before dual wield.
Then at 40, pop out your 2nd mass of mcgowan, and enjoy 30+ levels as a hammer twirling god of death!
评论来自
jahf
i ended up buying this with badges and getting the trinket with the seals, rather that wasting the 15 seals on this from crusader vendor.
That post deserves to be marked up (it was at zero). The cost comparison for the Mass vs Trinket:
Venerable Mass
40 Badges
75 Champion's Seals
Balanced Heartseaker
40 Badges
60 Champion's Seals
Trinkets
50 Badges
75 Champion's Seals
If you are trying to max out your BoA purchases using both badges and seals then it is a total waste of 15 Champion's Seals to buy a Venerable Mass with them. Use badges for this weapon.
评论来自
xgold
Wowwiki says:
Classes: Rogue, Shaman, Death Knight, Warrior (levels 20-59), Druid
Questions:
- Why Warrior (levels 20-59)?
- Why not Paladin?
Thanks.
评论来自
Kallech
Wowwiki is oversimplifying things by assuming that the only leveling spec for warriors is fury, and the only leveling spec for paladins is retribution. The random dungeon finder makes it easier to level as alternate specs. And, as you'll see, it's really a matter of spec.
Warriors
Levels 1-9, no spec yet:
You should be using a two-handed weapon. Thus this is not a good option.
Levels 10-80, Protection:
This weapon makes a fine weapon for leveling a protection warrior, either solo or in dungeons. Pair it with a good shield and go.
Levels 10-80, Arms:
Arms is designed entirely around wielding a two-handed weapon. Pass on this and go pick up a
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
instead.
Levels 10-19, Fury:
These two specs have no compelling reason to wield a one-handed weapon and shield, so you should continue to wield two-handed weapons until...
Levels 20-59, Fury:
At level 20, Fury warriors can start dual-wielding one-handed weapons. At this point, dual-wielding the Venerable Mass of McGowan (or
Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge
, or
Battleworn Thrash Blade
) becomes an option. It's not an especially good one; you may want to wait until level 25 (first level you can get to
Dual Wield Specialization
) or 30 (
Precision
). However, this is only viable for Fury for this range, because at 60...
Levels 60-80, Fury:
Titan's Grip
is available. Take it.
Take it.
At this point dual-wielding one-handed weapons immediately becomes less preferable compared to, say, swinging around two
Bloodied Arcanite Reapers
.
Paladins
Levels 1-9, no spec yet:
Much like warriors, you'll breeze through these levels with a two-handed weapon.
Levels 10-80, Protection:
Again, much like prot warriors, this makes a fine tanking weapon for leveling as prot. Pair it with a nice shield. Have a nice day.
Levels 10-80, Holy:
I guess you
could
wield this, but it's kind of silly to do so. If you're leveling Holy, you're more than likely leveling through healing random 5-mans, and unfortunately (since paladins are barred from using staffs), your only options are the
Blessed Hammer of Grace
or
Devout Aurastone Hammer
. Get one of those instead.
Levels 10-80, Retribution:
Like Arms, this is built around wielding a two-handed weapon. Might I show you something in our
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
line of heirlooms?
评论来自
Zulatomten
Stats @ lvl 19:
29-54 Dmg
(15.0 Dps)
3 Agi
4 AP
4 Stam
2 Crit (0.68%)
Shadowfang
Sword
29-55 Dmg + 4-8 Shadow Dmg
(17.8 Dps)
Proc: Shadowy Bolt 30 Dmg
Assassin's Blade
Dagger
20-39 Dmg
(15.5 Dps)
3 Str
4 Agi
Legionnaire's Sword
Horde /
Protector's Sword
Ally. Sword
28-53 Dmg
(15.0 Dps)
4 Str
2 Stam
Scout's Blade
Dagger
18-34 Dmg
(15.3 Dps)
4 Agi
2 Stam
_________________________________________________
Summary:
Venerable Mass of McGowan
is a Very good twink weapon on 10-19
If you dont have alot of gold to spend on
Shadowfang
评论来自
kalisperis
Great for my tankadin...
评论来自
533317
Umm...who's McGowan?
评论来自
maguild
Is this a good weapon for a feral druid? Im quite new to the game and def the druid so if you could answer in detail that be awesome! :)
评论来自
303818
Why on earth has the cost of heirlooms skyrocketed in patch 4.0.1? They used to cost a large number of Emblems of Heroism which took a while to amass any excess of other badges to convert. Now with only a month or so to go before Cata release when people have little to do other than level alts, they suddenly cost at least 4x more than before!
The justification given is that at 85 we will miraculously be earning so many points that level 80 items become supercheap. Except I fail to see what possible justification or relevance this has to a level 80 trying to purchase level 80 items who does not own the Cataclysm expansion and furthermore Cataclysm is still many weeks away from release!
Its even more unfair to those who had been stockpiling badges to use for heirlooms and were just short of them before purchase.
评论来自
Benjab
Does this weapon display enchants like fiery weapon and +15 agility?
Thanks in advance.
评论来自
archimonde567
This is the best weapon for shams and rogues!
Especially with the stam and agi.
评论来自
941889
Venerable Mass of McGowan is, in my honest opinion, the best rogue/Enh Shaman heirloom, and you probably won't need a replacement until you're level 80 (even then, it can last you until 82, despite having WoTLK stats). Even a fury warrior could benefit from this. Sure, there's no strength, but the stats are wicked, and atleast ANY melee dual-wielder who can wield maces should have at least one of them.
Infact, these are so good, these are the Second in Slot item for level 19 twinks. Usually a placeholder until they can get Shadowfang, and even then, this rips crud up.
If you're a Rogue or Enh shaman, 15 Agility on both would be amazing. If you're a fury warrior, Crusader, or Strength would be awesome too. 15 Agil does give crit, which is nice for a fury warrior.
This item is pretty much... a beast. You'll be one shotting things without using a spell/ability until like, level 10. And even then, you pretty much 2 shot things.
Even a feral druid (If you can't afford the 2H mace loom), can benefit from this, as well. ^_^
I didn't take it off until level 82.
I hoped that help you! Huzzah!
评论来自
Kitariel
Is there a pvp version of this weapon? or is that it for enhance shammies?
评论来自
Kitariel
Is there a pvp equiv for this Heirloom weapon?
评论来自
Ruhig
公式:附魔双手武器 - 敏捷
and
公式:附魔武器 - 敏捷
are
the
premiere enchants for MoP monks. Get the heirloom
with the 2H enchant, or two
古旧的玛克迦文之锤
with the 1H enchant.
Note that having a pair of enchanted
古旧的玛克迦文之锤
gives you +30 Agility, while the enchanted staff only gets +25. It's not a major difference, so pick whichever heirloom suits your playstile.
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235 - 437伤害
速度 2.80
(每秒伤害120.00)
+29 敏捷
+44 耐力
需要等级 1 至 80 (80)
装备:爆击等级提高19点。
装备:急速等级提高19点。
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(2),
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(2),
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(2),和
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