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评论来自
Dragonfyr
This is a VERY Rare Drop! It dropped once on a normal farm of MC ( Molten Core ) And i was over the moon when i saw it in the Raid chat! :D
It's really good to make for a hunters bow or gun, Not really that much use for any other class. Unless you have the gold for the mats, or the time to farm them. The mats are very expensive and hard to come by. But i would seriously recomend that every hunter has this scope attached to a DECENT ( Over lvl 55+ ) weapon!
The Average price of this scope can vary from 400g - 600g, Some people might even charge more. And it will cost on average for the mats around 300g - 350g to make one.
评论来自
7024
Unless you are low on +hit gear this scope is pretty much not worth it (infact it would be cheaper to get you more +hit gear then to make this scope). Sniper scope is far more feasible to have.
评论来自
amita
I have this on my xbow and my bow, It works great since before I use to miss 4x in BWL. Besides that it's expensive to make.
评论来自
lazyface
This Scope might be something of the past, now when TBC is out and all. I will try to get this as I get my Khorium Tank gun thingy crafted.
BUT, in my opinion this would be the best TANKING 'enchant' on ranged.
Since you won't use your ranged weapon for anything but pulling, the +30hit will be the best enchant.
Assuming that this adds to Melee hit, aswell as ranged.
Missing a Shield Slam is like: >_<
评论来自
NinjaCleric
Too bad Lazyface comment has been deleted. Probably cause he thought this scope adds hit to melee also(which was true when the recipe realised(nerfed afterwards).This is actually the best scope for a TANK that can get. A tank has a ranged weapon for 2 obvious reasons: Stats and pulling. And this scope ensures that your pulling will not miss and maybe cause a wipe because you missed. Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope and it's 30 hit rate,epitomizes the ultimate detail your tanking warrior should have if you are an elite player.Also a scope so rare and complicated like this one,adds prestige to your caracter.
As a side note: The scopes doesn't affect any of the other wpns abilities ,like extra dmg,or extra crit. It attaches to a ranged wpn,and affect ONLY that weapon.
评论来自
86578
Well IMO if you are running MC then the mats probably won't be a factor and I find I'm liking Hit rating more and more, for both melee and ranged. 1% hit is worth 1% crit. do the math ;)
评论来自
107938
This scope is still useful at level 70 for hunters. Raiding hunters should have 142 hit rating (9% chance to hit) normally, or 92 hit rating if they spec 3/3 Surefooted in the Survival tree. PvP hunters should have at least 5% chance to hit. 30 hit rating helps a lot to get you there. Then that frees up all those gem slots for Agi, Ap, Crit, etc., rather than filling with +hit gems.
评论来自
Zamfix
Contrary to what some people have said, the mats for this item are now very cheap in TBC. Granted, you will have to somewhat out of your way to get them, but they are neither difficult nor expensive to obtain.
评论来自
cranky
FWIW, this pattern still drops. I picked it up tonight while goofing off with some friends.
评论来自
169993
Hi
Any1 who can make this scope ? on server Runetotem
Schematic: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope
Desperados on server Runetotem
plz /w me
评论来自
166026
ah.. would've been awesome if this applied to melee, my prot warrior would be so f'ing happy..
评论来自
232194
With the changes made in 3.0 to first tier of the marksman tree.. This scope is less useful as it once was....
评论来自
PilsnerDk
Back in the old days, this gave a fixed +3% hit to both melee and ranged, making it very sought-after and talked about. It got fixed to only affect ranged attacks, and at level 80, the value of the 30 hit rating has diminished.
评论来自
Dirkster
The scope made with this recipe can be attached to
Charmed Ancient Bone Bow
.
评论来自
419766
https://www.cuckhead.com/cata/item=42946
cant use this enchant because one its a level one item it requires a lvl 50 item, two it won't because it causes it to become soul bound and you cant make a BoA Item soul bound
评论来自
Iroared
Just got 2 of those in the same run, one from magmadar and one from shazzrah, looking at the drop rate I guess I'm in luck. I would've been more happy to see 2 bindings but w/e.
评论来自
313339
Thunderclap: This ability now counts as a ranged attack, granting it double damage on critical strikes instead of 150% and ranged miss chance, and still cannot be dodged or parried.
Taken from Patch 3.3.3 notes.
Making this awesome for warrior tanks. All the other alternatives only affect your ranged pulls. This will give you +30 hit to Thunderclap as well. Considering that most warrior tanks have less than 263 hit (usually less than 233), this will be the best scope to use for the vast majority of warrior tanks.
评论来自
Bubonic
Still drops; dropped for my Engineer today (finally).
评论来自
Sasmina
Finally!
After over 60 resets it finally dropped on my Engineer :) - Was the last recipe I needed from Molten Core.
It dropped from Lucifron.
Good luck on everyone's farming!
Don't give up - Eventho it might not seem like it, this thing does exist!
评论来自
Thottbot
Golemagg in MC. Dropped tonight (06-27-06) on Twisting Nether server... no posts on here, and didn't say where it dropped.. so thought I'd say.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is going to cost over 350g on Frostmane for mats. This is for your last weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped for me this weekend from Baron Geddon - being raid engineer, I got it (and only 5dkp, so not really breaking the dkp bank either).
Crazy materials, really. The only real reason you'd use this is to show off I guess. +3% might be nice, but is it really worth all those materials?
Maybe with some of the very VERY high-end ranged weapons... but not until.
评论来自
Thottbot
Yeah, I'm trying to understand if a +3% increase in hit is even that great, I mean.... I assuming hunters would be the most likely to use this item, but yeah... I guess it's better than +7 damage. >< How much do you guys miss...
评论来自
Thottbot
I think its better then the 7 dmg cause ...you know its just 7 :P dosent matter THAT much, but with 3% hit you cannot practicaly miss a thing, maybe once a year but still its very good. And to think when you miss youre aimed shot -.- thats soo annoying. For the mats....eh...you rly need a good epic ranged weapon and its worth it.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, i've seen some real mathmatics on this issue. Can +7dmg scope at 3G be better or worse then a +3 hit at around 400G be worth it. I mean i'm about to put the biznicks one on my gun, but can anyone give me a reason why i shouldn't (besides the costs of the cores ((we run MC cores are nothing to us)), can you prove either way on eiher scope for truth. Come on work out the math skills and make everyone understand it. If were wasting our time on these stupid scopes, let everyone know. Here's your chance to be a hero.
Mychael NE Hunter
Garona
Bad Mojo Guild
评论来自
Thottbot
Well, this schematic isn't new to MC or World of Warcraft. It was existant from the very release of the game, but then removed by the developers, because the +hit was affecting melee attacks too, what never was intended by the devs. Now that it's back, i wonder whether they changed something with it or found it to be fine.
Some confirmed-data-based answers would be fine.
评论来自
Thottbot
more accurate calculation than the one shown above is if you take into account the hunters special abilities. a hunter doing the aim-multi-cycle will have
avgdps=(basedps+aim+multi)/time
each term must take into account modifiers such as crit%, speedfactors, +dmg and talents.
basedps = (weapondmg+bonusdmg+attackpower/14)*speedfactor*(1+crit%*Mortalshot)
bonusdmg = ammobonus+scopebonus
ammobonus can be for instance +13dps while scopebonus is (7/weaponspeed) dps (it says it adds damage not damage pr second like the ammo does).
aimshot and multishot have similar but a tidbit more complicated formulas.
the point is, you have to take account of the bonusdmg from the scope in all formulas, and they get modified and factorized for crits and wpnspeeds.
the final result will have to be modified by your chance to miss/hit which will diminish the overall damage.
running a couple examples with around 1300 ap and 20% crit gives result with %hit scope ~6dps above the sniper scope.
higher ap and crit makes %hit even more important.
the weaponspeed also effects the result, but the overall result is that the %hit scope will give a small benefit. if it's worth it or not depends on how rich you are and also on whether or not you have max hit% from other gear. (some say 9% hit is enough for both pve and pvp, although i have no clue where that number is coming from).
评论来自
Thottbot
one good use for this scope on hunters is to help with tranqing bosses. having + to hit helpscus a missed tranq even for a second can cause a tank to die, so most high end guilds try to have at least +8 to hit on hunters that tranq, so this scope is awesome when combined with strikers mark or crossbow of smiting (giving +4 to hit all together)
评论来自
Thottbot
If you're taking your first steps into raiding here's my theory based on experience, as a Hunter :-
Assume you're at lvl 60 with no racial bonus and 300 weapon skill (be it bow, crossbow or gun) you have a 95% chance to hit a lvl 60 mob, not including surefooted talents from the survival tree.
It's more than possible to achieve the extra 5% needed to make this 100% hit rate through the survival talents and doing a few Dire Maul tribute runs for 2 tarnished elven rings (1% hit chance each). Hunters need a higher hit % chance than that however to ensure their tranq shot hits Magmadar every time (and also just handy in general for boss fights). It is indeed 9% needed as the miss chance increases by 1.2% per level above 60 (i forget where that comes from tbh..) and Magmadar is set at lvl 63 (3x1.2 =3.6, 3.6+5=8.6 so safer to be at 9%).
It's possible to get 9% even if you've just started doing ZG/AQ20 as if you manage to get a Zulian Tigerhide Cloak that gives 1%, Fahrad's Reloading Repeater from The Perfect Poison quest gives another 1% and if you have 3 out of 4 pieces of the Black Dragonscale set (which you would ideally be using in MC for the first steps in there) that gives you another 1% to hit. That leaves you another 1% to aim for and I'm just going by what I have personally been equipped with so far. I intend to get the zandalar predators belt from the ZG primal hakkari item hand in quest as soon as I'm honored which adds the final % needed for me :-)
So at the end of the day, this scope is not really needed if you've equipped yourself similarly to how I have so far. I have no idea what kind of hit % chance there is on the rest of the tier1/2 gear and items that complement those sets, as I've only really just started MC with my guild, so I can't comment on the �Hardcore Raiding� aspect (BWL, AQ40 Naxx).. I wouldn't consider this scope just yet anyways. And it's all just my opinion, hoping it may help some of you out there :-)
评论来自
Thottbot
Magmadar can drop it too.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just dropped off luci on Lightninghoof, horde side.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped from Garr yesterday.
I'm on the Maelstrom server, horde side. Whisper me if you have the mats and want it made.
/Aleqguac
评论来自
Thottbot
It looks like the mats alone put this thing at about 300g. Send Tirah an in game mail if your interested.
Anyone know what this should sell for (above and beyond the mats cost).
评论来自
Thottbot
Does the +hit work for rogues melee?
评论来自
Thottbot
Where I may be shooting some mobs that are greater than three over my level. The mats aren't too bad. 50g for cores now and 20g for arcanite bars. Had the DI and earth.
评论来自
Thottbot
I can make this on Stormreaver EU, Horde side.
Send ingame mail or whisper to Zagroth (or my alt named Grokdar).
评论来自
Thottbot
can u make this anywhere or does it have to be at dark anvil?
评论来自
Thottbot
Im a level 70 hunter horde at Spinebraker. Had the mats since before the expansion. An engineer was gonna make it for me, but changed professions before I could get the mats together. Would like to know if it's worth it to wait to find another engineer to make it or sell the mats.By the way have'nt find one ever since!
评论来自
Thottbot
Does this still drop?
评论来自
Thottbot
yall talkin bout crazymats expensive mats bulllllcrapp those are easy mats way easy if ur a real engineer then ud know tht lol still interested on the drop rate etc tho
评论来自
Thottbot
I was wondering how much I should sell this scope for?
评论来自
Thottbot
if it was mine id post it with a 300 bid and spam abou it in /2 occasionally... gotta be worth a good bit these days since the pattern is rare and the mats r from a pre bc end game
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm looking for someone on Sargeras server Alliance that can make these, please send a tell to Corvus if you can, I'll pay well. Thanks.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm am a 70 Dwarf Hunter on Alexstraza and i was wondering would u guys take this scope over the +28 crit one ?
P.S. if u can make this scope on my sever pls send me a mail.
评论来自
Thottbot
I prefer the crit scope over this because depending on your stats crit will benifit your dps more as long as you have over 100 hit rating, id rather have 1% crit then 30 hit rating.
评论来自
Thottbot
this scope would be like one of the best things a warrior could put on his tanking gun
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped off luci for me tonight. only one on server (alliance) with it. one horde has it on our server.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you want this scope made on Shattered Hand (Alliance) message Venkman or Arutha. Only one able to make it on the server.
Horde, I'm sure something can be worked out.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rokea ravencrest alliance
can craft it:P just send me
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well it is returning in 1.10 but acording to the patchnotes its getting a nerf to the way it prolly was designed. No more +hit to melée as it is now. It will only work on ranged attacks='( but all hunters cheer to Blizz now you hear and maybe they will goodhearted enough to let out the warrior nerf...^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
My mate can make these on Drak'thul , if you are interested whisper Fearbringer in game, and prepare some gold for my mate : )
评论来自
Allakhazam
random mc boss drop, dropped off baron geddon for us.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Aye aye, dropping in MC in 1.10. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Considering how many months this item simply didn't exist, what's the real drop rate?
评论来自
Allakhazam
ironically, this comes from MC
magmadar to be precise.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped for Helios tonight of Golemagg (3April 23:31)
Hellscream - Stones (Alliance)
attach on a bow/gun to increase the chane to hit with range by 3%
Edited, Mon Apr 3 16:37:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warluck > Stones
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
ironically, this comes from MC
评论来自
Allakhazam
Any idea on the mats needed?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This item is coming back in 1.10...check it out!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just dropped for Praeses Dignitas on the Terenas server-alliance side!
评论来自
Allakhazam
About time :) blizz did remove this patten for a long time but now its back and fixed
It is no longer +3% to hit, its now +3% to ranged hit
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped off luci for me tonight. only one on server (alliance) with it. one horde has it on our server.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If anyone can make this on Stonemaul-Horde plz post.
评论来自
Allakhazam
probably an 0.5% droprate like all the other plans from MC
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've had this schematic horde side since right after they patched it in.
AFAIK there are 4 people on SH with this schematic, 3 on alliance.
Contact me as Geist if you need one made Horde side.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am the first with this schematic.
Server = HAKKAR
Name = NOHEAL
Faction = Horde
E-Mail & MSN = asnfire2k@hotmail.com
(feel free to contact me if you need want make)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got the mats, if anyone from Sargeras has the plans pst to Mikej
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone seen one of these drop recently?
H
评论来自
Allakhazam
good MC scope.
where did it come from?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I confirm, it dropped for my guild in MC yesterday from Golemagg.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Has had recent reports on this dropping. Maybe they did not remove it from the game?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this schematic.
Server = Shattered Hand
Name = Manix
Faction = Alliance
E-Mail & MSN = shockcore@msn.com
Get in touch with me if you need one crafted.
评论来自
Allakhazam
has anyone seen this drop any time recently? no recorded drops leads me to believe it may have been removed from the game, which makes me sad.
评论来自
Allakhazam
any one that can make this scope on shatterd hand (alliance)?
评论来自
Allakhazam
...the schematic, that is. Whoever learned it, like myself, can still craft those.
Orc Hunter Snob at Gurubashi, PM me if yer interested. Or MSN me rafael.agp@globo.com if yer Alliance.
评论来自
Novat
Has anyone seen this yet?
评论来自
Nightmareqts
Can anyone confirmed the existanse of this pattern in P1 ?
评论来自
Vorishgo
Recipe (BoP) started to drop in MC with the release of Dire Maul.
评论来自
Accuda
Has anyone see this drop in Classic as of yet? I have been to MC multiple times, and have not seen this drop at all, nor have I noticed anyone with it on their bow.
评论来自
dasbaum
In case you are wondering what the status of the attachment
比兹尼克247x128精确瞄准镜
is in classic wow:
Some earlier posts from 2005 mentioned this to work for melee hit and the 50+ rated
post here
explain really well how it was changed to only affect ranged hit in Vanilla:
This item used to effect melee swings and was one of the most saught after enchantsments by rogues and warriors alike. It was nerfed to only ranged attacks and made to be a balanced part of the game.
It was also taken out of the loot table for a long while until they fix it for ranged only. So, many engineers that had the pattern before they removed it from the loot table got to price gouge all they wanted as many servers only had a handful of people with it.
WoW Classic is running the last Vanilla Patch 1.12. Meaning that we play on a version of wow. Where the scope has been already changed to work only with ranged attacks.
This is also underlined by the item tooltip: "Use: Attaches a permanent scope to a
bow or gun
that increases
its
chance to hit by 3%."
The grammatical structure is mentioning that only the bow or gun is affected.
The
结构图:比兹尼克247x128精确瞄准镜
started dropping with the Dire Maul Content Patch mirroring the "fix" time in Vanilla.
If
this were to work for Melee it would be super cheap, better even than
龙牙饰物
and absolute must for any Melee. Since it's
not working
for Melee you won't find it on any Melee BIS List.
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