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评论来自
Kunou
This was a primary reason to go Goblin Engineering before Blizzard nerfed them to an abyssmal 5 minute CD (that still shares your bomb/grenade timers). The new sapper charges you can make in TBC also do more damage to you than the targets. I'm not sure what Blizzard is trying to say with these changes. It really is a shame to have sapper charges reduced to their current state. On the plus side if you are unhappy with it TBC will be allowing us to change our specializations.
评论来自
Insanity
Than awesome trick you can pull off with explosives such as this and the new sapper charge.
First buy one Flask of Petrification. Select a crowed city (Ironforge or Orgrimmar) during night time on a weekday. With a group of at least 5-10 people (Preferably rogues or mages) run into the city and die near the mailbox. Only do this with 9 people though because you want to save the guy with the Flask for last. Have him run in as soon as you guys are near you bodies and have him drink the flask. All the enemy players will hopefully, start hitting the invincible allied player. As soon as the flask is drained start shooting off them sapper charges and any aoe you have. You should get rewarded with a lot of dead suckers lying at your feet.*
*Note you may die in the process due to the "smart" players who don't tag themselves :)
评论来自
P51mus
Useable during a pally bubble, making you immune to the self inflicted damage but harming everyone around you. Quite fun.
评论来自
86570
Raw Mats:
8
Solid Stones
2
Mageweave Cloth
1
Mithril Bar
评论来自
21945
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评论来自
114951
upgrade:
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评论来自
268079
This ( as well as the other sapper charges) will trigger a 1 minute CD on explosives, but the sapper itself will be on a 5 minute cooldown.
评论来自
543999
It seems the Goblins have a much more violent way than Spys to sap stuff
"Goblins sappin my EVERYTHING! With FIRE!"
评论来自
19564
This goes perfectly with
Goblin Construction Helmet
, it absorbs some, if not all, of the damage done to you! Put the helmet on, wait for the cool down on the helmet then pop the macro...boom! This is pretty devastating in level 20 or so PvP.
I use the following macro:
#showtooltip
/use Goblin Construction Helmet
/use Goblin Sapper Charge
评论来自
Thottbot
Where can you obtain the schematic for this?
评论来自
Thottbot
I love them sapper charges for mass pvp use! It deals about 640 damage to all attackers around it! I testet it against some 60 palas and any other player who was unluky to be in my explosive radius!
It's so damn funny! You can be a pala for 1 sec! Just run into the enemy lines... let it explode and watch while the yellow 640 pops out of all nearby attackers!
And it doesn't deal the full damage against you everytime. It's mostly about the half of the damage you deal. About 350 dmg. And hey.... whats 350dmg for a lvl 60 player? Its restored in no time!
Im a UD Rogue, and in my opinion this is one of the best mass pvp engineering devices!
no aiming, instant cast, great damage, low ressource cost!
Your personal pvp a-bomb!
评论来自
Thottbot
I wasn't sure of the power of this until I used it. For the "Forsaken Courier" quest, the objective is to kill a level 35 who is guarded by four or five other level 35s. Well, I ran in, hoping to kill the objective, and one-shotted three of them for over 1200 each. It crits! Well, I bubbled up and healed to full, then proceeded to solo all five of them as a level 32 paladin.
评论来自
Thottbot
These make deadmines runs incredibly easy for rogues with no other AoE skills. 1-shot as many elites as you can, then hit evasion, sprint around and aggro EVERYTHING. When there's about 40 of them near you, BOOM! Kill off any stragglers and heal up before doing it all over again.
Scares the hell out of people though when you show 'em it for the first time.
评论来自
Thottbot
i have just reached lvl 225 on my eng. as a lvl 25 UD rogue and proceeded to Gadgetzan to buildup my skill... The trainor says that I must be lvl 35 to continue with my training. Question. How can you make a bomb for your lvl 20 priest and have him use it? Is this bomb not lvl specific? My harvest reaper is lvl 30 req. is this bomb not? Just asking thanks
评论来自
Thottbot
This has a 5 minute cooldown and triggers the one minute cooldown on the rest of the explosives, so no suicide spamming.
评论来自
Thottbot
No, it doesn't have any level requirement, the only requirement it has is 205 Engineering.
评论来自
Thottbot
Do you use it, it sits on the ground and blows up when a hostile runs over it? Or is it like a bomb thrown at your feet (blows up as soon as you use it), only it does damage to you too?
评论来自
Thottbot
its just an instant AOE, similar to blastwave, but no daze ofc :P. Deals the damage listed to all and every single enemy within explosion radius, a damages you too for a little less damage. It can crit ( indepent roll for every target..quite nice when it hits for 1300++). Guess that since its fire damage..fire rst will reduce this damage, even on you. And paladins divine shield works wonders with this, just make sure you trigger it before it runs out..or you will feel the pain :)
评论来自
Thottbot
I went to gadgetzan and went to the goblin artisan engineer but I cannot find where it is. I got to 220 engineering after the 1.9 patch and cannot find the recipe. If I for some reason do have it, is it a part, or explosive or etc...
评论来自
Thottbot
You can prpbably down a fire protection potion before detonating and absorb all of the potental damage caused to you AND have Absorbtion left over, im gonna try it as soon as the servers are all back up, ill post my results as soon as i can!
评论来自
Thottbot
this is fun with with hellfire, im a destruction spec'd locky (49) with lots of +firedmg gear,
1) sac voidwalker for shield
2) lay down sapper charge
3) cast hellfire
750 fire AoE + 200 Fire AoE every second
just gotta find a way to get in the middle of a bunch of people
评论来自
Thottbot
- Get 10 Rogues/Druids with Engineering.
- Equip everyone with this n1 item.
- Stealth into a Raidgroup.
- Blast them from nowhere to oblivion.
Yes it can crit and it forces Rogues who vanished out of stealth.
It ownz :>
评论来自
Thottbot
This will probably be a rehash of what others have posted so bear with me. My keys to using this item effectively no matter what class are, of course, hitting as many mobs with this while mitigating the personal damage. Easiest ways for me so far are:
1) Power Word Shield (Priest)
2) (Greater) Fire Protection Potion
3) Flame Ward (Mage)
4) Flame Resistance Aura (Paladin-a toss up)
5) Shield-type trinkets/weap-procs.
Wanna do great dmg and be damned sure you keep aggro on you as a Prot Specced Warrior? This is for you! :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Can Gnomish Engineers make this?
评论来自
Thottbot
in AV i usually use my essence of eranikus to do a widespread AoE after i run into huge groups of players the later a few players die from the 450 damage DoT, i find this item even better for suicide runs ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
Lots of people underestimate these charges, extremely useful in certain-death situations or just extra damage, and it does crit, 1200 damage so far, it's like a mini-blast wave, cheap to make as well. Have fun.
评论来自
Thottbot
When a Warlock sacrifices a Voidwalker for a shield and then uses the Sapper Charge, will the damage be absorbed?
评论来自
Thottbot
Used in AV last night. Managed to bubble and get inwhile they were tanking Stormpike. Crit for 1100 on about 20 guys, and wiped their tank. SP Reset and we won. Good times
评论来自
Thottbot
Since Naxxramus landed in the world of Azeroth, the Argent Dawn have been fighting them on the front lines. They accept donations after you heve a craftsman Writs, these are one of the donations. In exchange for the donations you get Insignias (Dawn & Crusade), these you can exchange for goodies. You need 20 sapper charges.
评论来自
Thottbot
ME GO BOOM!
评论来自
Thottbot
Where is the trainer that allows you to learn this skill?
评论来自
Thottbot
These things are the definition of slaughter for 29 twinks, my friend and I both made gnome rogue twinks, got their engineering up to 240, then gave em these from my main. Sprinting into a flag room, or to the enemy FC, we can wipe the whole room in an instant if we both set em off at the same time. :)
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the item to use when you're batteling in a BG and is about to die! xD To make good timing you may even make a macro with some-thing like "MYARRGH, take this!" Of course, the horde will only hear some "Buur buur blop" but it's funny anyway ^^
评论来自
Thottbot
so i was a lvl 28 warlock in wsg and there was a large group of guys piled up that we were all in fighting in a huge brawl all of a sudden a gnome mage comes in and a huge flame wave blast comes out and spreads dealing 706dmg! Im like "holy %^&*!" because it did more dmg than my max health - 687. I was thinking that it was flame wave....but they don't get that till lvl 30...and it did like 3 times that...hmmm... finnally i decided that it was some super engineering bomb.... guess this is it...
freaked me out
评论来自
Thottbot
Is this a goblin engineer only item or can gnomish engineers learn it too? cuz im 297 and ive yet to see it
评论来自
Thottbot
dude, gather up 10 engineers and in a 40 man pvp, just have somebody throw a big(ger) one bomb in a mass group, and have 10 guys run in there and activate this sucker... HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
评论来自
Thottbot
http://i13.tinypic.com/6begl5k.jpg
610+513+498+519+687+711+737 =
4275
dmg done for 393 dmg on self. i'd take that any day :)
hmmm maybe i should have took an elixir of firepower first ...
评论来自
Thottbot
whats the differance between goblin and gnome engineering and which should i pick im a lvl 40 paladin and this is working out great so far because not only do i get money but i get a ranged attack so if i want to get the more money AND get good ranged attack which should i pick (i want a higher ranged attack so whichever one gives me the better one for me please tell me which one that is)
评论来自
Thottbot
BEST GANK IVE EVER SEEN
prepair to be shocked and amused
go to youtube and look up --bombing iornforge--
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-
pls rate to point others to the fun.
If your ali dont get MAD get EVEN
....and post a video to prove it ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
where do i get it wich trainer and where is he plz answer.:)
评论来自
Thottbot
OK mediocre damage, especially at higher levels, so
the real timeless beauty of this is as a destealther for the AOEless.
Think there could be a stealthed character near you? Pop this utility. There goes their first-strike advantage, they are exposed.
Best use I've seen is in AV when capturing/recapturing towers. Ever notice when caping a tower's flag that you
almost
get to the end of the progress bar when bam a hidden player strikes? Pop one of these beauties about 80% through your cap and *poof* their powerful first-strike is negated :)
Goblin Sapper Charges are cheap to make, do it~ do it even if you think you are alone. If its blast radius reveals no one then you can rest assure that there is no one, they would have been near you by then.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This bomb is awesome for the end of the Scarlet Monastery - Armory.
After Herod dies, all the lowbie, non-elites rush in.
Aggro them all to you, trigger the Goblin Sapper Charge.
Most will die right away! Those that do not die will be even weaker than they already were and are easily dispatched. (A mage's AoE effects are a great compliment to this.)
Also great in PvP. Use in Flag Room, or at a Resource Flag to damage multiple enemies. You may die, but that was probably going to happen anyway--you just get to put the hurt on more enemies before you go out in a Bang!
Goblin Engineer -- FTW!
评论来自
Allakhazam
The blast raidus is something akin to dynamite (about 5 yards) and is centered around character. There is no concentration timer for this; it explodes as soon as your Use it. If you can build this, you can build the
Goblin Construction Helmet
, and the two have pretty good
synergy
.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone ever think of simply using a flame shield (also made by engineering) before hand? Makes the self damage minimal, works great for me! :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anybody know how long it takes after using this before you can pop another one?
评论来自
Allakhazam
5 minute cooldown for the charges and triggers a one minute cooldown on the rest of your explosives.
评论来自
Allakhazam
sorta like real life then huh.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So how does one learn this?
评论来自
Allakhazam
My pally is gonna be a goblin engineer.... (=
评论来自
Allakhazam
if you have reck on .. it´ll be 100% crit ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Umm.... Wow. O_O
You know... I'm suddenly envisioning a PvP guild powerleveling a bunch of lower level characters up to 205 engineering and charging them into enemy cities armed with these babies...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Get a limited immunity potion and you can copy the Paladins Bombing runs with greater effect
评论来自
viklok
Can this item be used in bear from ?
评论来自
Yeahmate
Raw Mats:
8 Solid Stones
2 Mageweave Cloth
1 Mithril Bar
评论来自
QuickBASIC
There's a lot of confusion about this currently. There are basically four types of items that can be made by engineers:
BoE items that can be used by any engineer and traded.
BoP items that can be crafted by a specific specialization, but used by any engineer
Items that require a specific specialization to use.
BoP items that can be crafted by an engineer, but can be used even after engineering is dropped
Gnomish Engineering allows you to craft
these items
:
Item
Bind on Pickup
Requires Engineering to Use
Requires Gnomish to Use
侏儒护目镜
Yes
Yes
No
侏儒防护腰带
No
Yes
No
侏儒洗脑帽
No
Yes
No
侏儒火箭靴
No
Yes
No
安全传送器:加基森
No*
Yes
Yes
世界放大器
No
Yes
Yes
侏儒作战小鸡
Yes
Yes
No
侏儒死亡射线
Yes
No
No
侏儒撒网器
No
Yes
No
侏儒缩小射线
No
Yes
No
设计图:秘银杆
N/A
N/A
N/A
发条娃娃
Yes
Yes
No
* This is Bind on Use (not equip).
If your intent is to switch to Goblin after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft
侏儒护目镜
,
侏儒作战小鸡
,
侏儒死亡射线
, and
发条娃娃
(these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level gnomish engineering
again
.
安全传送器:加基森
and
世界放大器
cannot be used by a non-gnomish engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.
NOTE:
侏儒死亡射线
doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.
Goblin Engineering allows you to craft
these items
:
Item
Bind on Pickup
Requires Engineering to Use
Requires Goblin to Use
地精火箭靴
No
No
No
配方:地精火箭燃油
No
N/A
N/A
地精迫击炮
No
Yes
No
地精采矿头盔
Yes
Yes
No
地精施工头盔
No
Yes
No
大炸弹
No
Yes
No
地精炸弹箱
Yes
Yes
No
地精火箭头盔
No
Yes
No
地精工兵炸药
No
Yes
No
地精龙枪
Yes
No
No
地精迫击炮
No
Yes
No
炸弹宠物
Yes
No
No
空间撕裂器 - 永望镇
No*
Yes
Yes
* This is Bind on Use (not equip).
If your intent is to switch to Gnomish after crafting all the goodies (by dropping and re-leveling Engineering), you should probably craft all of these items, but you must craft
地精采矿头盔
,
地精炸弹箱
,
地精龙枪
, and
炸弹宠物
(these are BoP) or you will lose access to these items permanently (unless you drop and re-level Goblin Engineering
again
.
NOTE: I recommend you go Gnomish first because most items crafted by Goblin are comsumable, whereas Gnomish is toys and trinkets that can be used after you switch. If you do Goblin first, you'll not be able to craft some of the most powerful explosives in the game for yourself and need to buy them reguarily if you want to use them.
空间撕裂器 - 永望镇
cannot be used by a non-goblin engineer, so you can skip crafting these if you're planning on switching.
NOTE:
地精龙枪
doesn't require Engineering to use, so technically, you could level Engineering to craft this item, and drop it and still be able to use it.
评论来自
Kevenatecor
Season of Discovery
It seems a lot of people in SoD are not aware that they can be both Gnome and Goblin Engineering at the same time.
Learning Opposite Specialization Recipes in Season of Discovery Phase 3
Season of Discovery Phase 3 introduces a questline allowing Engineers to learn recipes from the opposite Specialization as well as their chosen one. Available after reaching Skill Level 225 and completing the quest chains to become either a Gnomish Engineer or a Goblin Engineer, a new quest chain unlocks in the Shimmering Flats in Tanaris - you're going to help sabotage a race, working with Engineering representatives from your chosen specialization.
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地精工兵炸药
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使用:
触发之后发生爆炸,对附近的所有敌人造成450 to 750点火焰伤害,对你造成375 to 625点伤害。
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