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Comentado por Greyfall

Edit: disregard, obviously out of date

So, surprise attacks might not work the same as you read it.

Yes, backstab is increased both through the % of weapon damage, and additional damage.

However, sinister strike is not a *direct* 8% damage upgrade. Instead, your bonus damage on sinister strike is increased, not the total damage (if it was 100, for example, it'd go up to 108).

Keep this in mind if you are thinking of speccing in to it.

Comentado por 5960

Two things of note: Only finishing moves benefit from the "Cannot be dodged" bonus now, and the damage bonus was raised to 10%. Honestly, this talent doesn't really make a whole lot of sense as is.

Comentado por darkarsenic

With this talent, you can shiv for combo points(it will ALWAYS apply that poison, therefore it cannot miss, parry or be dodged) and KS (can only be parried if you have precision, and you have it right?) and KS means you will always hit(at least your yellow hits) stomps the uncertainty that your KS will be dodged. +10% damage is just icing on this talent.

Comentado por 37560

The power behind this skill can be looked at in two ways.

In PvE - The damage bonus is readily welcome, it's almost 10% more damage to everything you do, Sinister, Backstab.

In PvP - Cannot be dodged. Have a rogue on you while you're farming? He blows Evasion? Kidney shot right through it. Hunters have a lot of agility too (Aspect of the Monkey, iirc), deterrence, jump behind him and KS right through it. Druids in bear form, cannot parry and cannot block, but have insanely high levels of dodge, KS right through it.

This ability almost rivals Quick Recovery in effectiveness, one refunds you 28 energy whenever your finishing moves miss/parried/dodged, this ability removes dodge from the equation. Being a 41 point skill in combat, you would have precision, so if you have a decent idea how to PvE with your rogue missing is inexcusable. What's left is Parrying and that is simply rare (I also do not believe I have seen a mob that can parry from the back, but I could be wrong).

There is a lot of reason to love this talent, and I personally am using it right now.

Comentado por 5117

SUrprise, surprise...GOTCHA!

Comentado por 41356

Doesn't this somewhat devaluate weapon expertise given in the same talent tree? Seems kinda odd.

I guess it still has a very positive effect on your dps allowing you to focus on different stats.

Comentado por Philes

It may be rather unspectacular, but for only 1 point you get a lot of utility (and no more lost energy/time from finisher miss) and a damage bump.

It's not as amazing as other 41 point talents, but it's better than a stick in the eye! Especially if that stick can't miss!

Comentado por NMMRG

Any decent combat rogue will have 26 expertise including "Weapon Expertise". That will insure that no attacks be dodged from behind and leave around a 5.5% chance of parry if, for some reason, attacking in front (like on Heigan fights). The ONLY benefit you would get from this skill in pve (assuming you're not undergeared) is the 10% dmg bonus. In pvp, it is much more useful.

Comentado por 111622

Your attacks can still be parried however. But the 10% Damage increase is the only thing making this worth getting.

Comentado por Thottbot

Not a great 41 point talent IMO. Would be good if it were a 21 point talent, but to go 41 points into combat for this? Not really worth it IMO. Its nice, dont get me wrong, but not a good 41 point talent. Even though Im combat I will probably put 40 points into that tree and then 21 into assassination or subtlety for cold blood or preparation.

Comentado por Thottbot

People are just dumb

Comentado por Thottbot

ya i agree combat=best pvp. debate me? look at all the pros.

Comentado por Thottbot

is it passive skill or cast?

Comentado por Thottbot

For you curious ppl...this comment'll help you on what lvl 2 get the Sub Talent abilities...

Talent:

11 Combat=lvl 20- Riposte:Requires 5 in Deflection

21 Combat=lvl 30- Blade fury:No requirements

31 Combat=lvl 40- Adrenaline Rush:no requirements

41 Combat=lvl 50- Surprise attacks:Requires 1 in Adrenaline Rush

Hope it helps... :)

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Não é mais possível esquivar-se dos seus golpes finais e o dano causado pelas suas habilidades Golpe Sinistro, Punhalada pelas Costas, Estocada, Hemorragia e Esfaquear aumenta em 10%.

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Apply Aura: Finishing Move Cannot be Dodged (2)
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
Feitiços Afetados:

	Golpe no Rim	Ruptura	Eviscerar
	Eviscerar	Eviscerar	Eviscerar
	Eviscerar	Eviscerar	Ruptura
	Ruptura	Golpe no Rim	Expor Armadura
	Ruptura	Ruptura	Ruptura
	Eviscerar	Eviscerar	Arremesso Mortal
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	Eviscerar	Ruptura	Eviscerar
	Envenenar	Envenenar	Eviscerar
	Eviscerar	Ruptura	Ruptura
	Arremesso Mortal	Arremesso Mortal	Envenenar
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Apply Aura: Modifies Damage/Healing Done
Valor:10%
Multiplicador de JvJ: 1
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	Punhalada pelas Costas	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro
	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro
	Esfaquear	Punhalada pelas Costas	Punhalada pelas Costas
	Punhalada pelas Costas	Estocada	Golpe Sinistro
	Punhalada pelas Costas	Punhalada pelas Costas	Punhalada pelas Costas
	Punhalada pelas Costas	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro
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	Punhalada pelas Costas	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro
	Punhalada pelas Costas	Golpe Sinistro	Golpe Sinistro
	Punhalada pelas Costas	Punhalada pelas Costas	Hemorragia
	Hemorragia	Hemorragia	Hemorragia
	Hemorragia

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