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Comentado por Stinnenich

One of my fastest AV lasted ~10 minutes.. How can you win in 6 minutes? Mhm..
Maybe you'll need a full raid which rides to Drek and kills him like a normal instance boss without capturing any towers or graveyards?
That's difficult~ ._.

Comentado por 84526

This is near impossible. The only way I can think of is by getting a premade group of 40 by using an enabler mod and all charging at the opposing faction's boss as suggested above.

But remember this is only early stages, I think blizzard will tweak either this achievement or Alterac Valley so this is actually achieveable.

Comentado por Vesena

Winning in 6 minutes is very very simple.

The battle has begun.
Not enough players, this battle will end in 5 minutes.
You Win!

Although I expect Blizzard have already accounted for that.

Comentado por 65720

This actually seems just ridiculous. The fastest AV I've ever won was a 7 minute, well-accepted pug rush, and I can't imagine an organized premade doing much better than that.

Maybe in Wrath they're shrinking AV to 50% of its current size and making it a 40v40 deathmatch.

Comentado por 198315

It is fairly simple, although still very hard to achieve.
These are the requirements:

Premade BG
5 tanks: 1 for each warmaster and 1 for drek
2 cc's: for the wolves
atleast 5 healers (the more the merrier): for the tanks
And a load of dps'
8 paladins (not needed but is helpful when charging for drek because of the Crusader aura)

Tactic:
-Put 1 paladin in each group of the raid, make them cast Crusader Aura
-When match starts mount up quick and charge!
-Nobody enters the Garrison or any tower
-Do not stop to attack horde in the middle
-Get to Frostwolf, depending on the time send some people to Hut to capture it incase someone dies while attacking Drek
-Don't wait for the hut since it take 4 minutes and you have probably already spent 2-3 minutes riding to Frostwolf
-Go in and attack Drek, 1 tank for each Warmaster + Drek. Only the warmaster tanks should be attacking the warmasters, the dps' should all attack drek along with the Drek Tank. And ofcourse the 2 cc's stun or poly or whatever the Wolves. Drek will die in less than a minute and congratulations, you're 1 step closer to becoming
'Battlemaster <Your name>'

Comentado por devvvour

And also, the resilence is cut in WotLK, so AV's will be quicker.

Comentado por 229775

Easily did it the first night Achievements came live. For everyone that doesnt know, Boulderfist runs amazing premades(horde side) that can usually hold/defend all towers while assulting the north. To do this in 6 minutes just have everyone in Vent and Single que at the same time. Make sure at least 36 of the raidmembers got the same bg before entering. Then just rush Van/Drek and have your assigned MT pick up Van/Drek and 2 OT pick up 2 generals each while DPS focus's on the boss.

I timed it for my run and from the Opening gates to killing the boss only took 4:45 seconds. Make sure to assult, NOT CAP, Aid/Relief Hut.

Comentado por 76534

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oee-_iJH7ns - An AV win in under 4 minutes. In order to pull this of you're gonna need good coordination and 40 people that know what to do. Don't cap anything, just rush rush rush, and it should be doable. Still, be far the hardest of the sub-6 minute BG wins.

Comentado por 234546

Got this on the weekend thanks to about 8 or 9 guys from the same Sunwell guild, enough others in the pug that bought into the rush plan and minimal horde defense.

Won in 5 minutes.

Comentado por xarg

Did this not too long ago, it's not particularly difficult. Group of 15 or so of us is all it took. Two pve geared tanks (one for marshals, one for vanndar), a few healers, and a bunch of dps. The others don't even need pve gear. Made about 25 random players pretty happy.

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102308081403jg1.jpg

I've since gotten the howler and the all-star achievement, the hardest by far seems to be defend 50 towers.

Comentado por 237378

Did this a few night ago on my horde rogue. Someone on our server got a group of about 20 people together and we all used the AV Premade Enabler mod to que together. This was the strat the group used:

-We had around four or five bear tanks and healers for each. The rest were decently geared DPS.

-Several pallies for crusader aura (these can be healers or tanks)

-A macro made to spam a message at the start of AV to the other people in the BG something along the lines of "We are doing the Alterac Blitz achievment. We have 6 minutes to kill Van and it takes 4 minutes to get there. Please ride straight to Van. Ignore alliance, bunkers, and do not aggro NPCs. Do not stop for anything." Most of the people in our grouped seemd receptive and agreed to follow these instructions.

- Our group then b-lined straight through the BG. I ended up taking a fair amount of damage from archers on the way up and would recommend bringing pots/bandages to top off quickly before pulling van. This is really important because if you die from a random cleave or what not your going to spawn back at RH or FW and essentialy be out of the fight.

-Basicaly do what one of the above posters said: Have your tanks grab the marshals and Van and DPS him down ASAP. I dont know how much they hit for but I think a bear can tank more than one marshal. Your raid leader can probably quickly thorw up symbols and predermine who is tanking what symbol prior to queing the BG.

-Good luck!

Comentado por 217425

Did this in a pug with a pala tank....and we literally only just did it though.

Horde on reckoning FTW

Literally though, the whole raid ran straight to him, which got delayed a little by some !@#$y mage that frost novaed half of us going past iceblood.

Comentado por 102489

I didn't realize this was hard, because I got it in my very first AV since almost a year.

Unlike other archievements, like perfect all star etc, that seems next to impossible to me , this came without any plan

Just a full group random from all servers in the battleground. One guy shouts. "All rush the boss. Enough people listened to that i guess because before I knew it (I was just fighting my second opponent somewhere in the middle, it came:

Battleground has ended: Horde won.

Comentado por VaughulEU

My tactic as a Horde :
Make a premade on your realm, with one or two tanks.
Just run to Vanndar, and nuke.
Did this 3 times now, and it always worked.

Easy, but working !

Vaughul - Al'Akir EU

Comentado por Mals

I think the marshal/warmaster buffs are auras (noticed them fading while the bunker/towers were still standing), so best would be to pull them to one wall while you nuke the general at the other wall. This totally gimps his DpS and his hp should be <200k. Should't be too hard with 2-4 tanks, ~6 healers, crusader aura and some sick DpS in a premade.

Btw, the Picture is way "harder" than the defense imo, in 40 battles l got 15 towers defended (they only managed to assualt towers about once every 2 battles due to sheer outnumbering), and haven't seen ANYONE get a picture.

*edit: typo's*

Comentado por 309038

Just got this on my horde rogue through a simple "not enough players" win. It was ~30 horde vs 10 alliance, and the not enough players thing ticked down, when the game ended all horde got the blitz achievement.

Comentado por 300897

lmao, i got the picture around like my 5th AV fight , bad luck mals

Comentado por 201527

This is totally possible with a PUG. In fact we got it 3 times in 1 day with my Alliance Druid.
Not that you get the achievement multiple times, but I saw it *ding* for everyone else.

With PUG's, it's more of letting the achievement come to you. Don't force the issue. We all know how eye-stabbingly painful it can be to get anyone to do anything they are "supposed" to do in AV. You'll know right away if you're in a group willing to try, seize that moment.

Hit Drek, ignore everything else. Unless Horde turtles, you should be good.

However, this is assuming people actually listen.

More likely you will hear "No! Save Belinda first" or "Grab the mines!"... Ugh.

Unless, someone wants to summon Ivus the Forest Lord, I'm down with that.

Comentado por Tisane

The PUG I was in was in a good mood and everyone just said ''Lets go for The Alterac Blitz!'' and realy everyone went straight for Drek. Just need to be lucky to get a PUG with lots of people who want to do the achievement imo.

Comentado por DrCheis

I've been in a few PUGs that have tried for this achievement. So far all have failed, usually due to some members engaging drek before the rest of the raid had arrived. It also didn't help that this was the 51-60 bracket so many of us didn't have epic mounts. The epic mount speed difference can be made up for by navigating in a smart way. I've seen 60% mounts keep up with the front wave of epics just by making sharper turns and such.

In my experience, if you try once and fail, the next few matches people will still be willing to try for it, but this only goes so far. After a while people will start QQing about how we're STILL trying it, making getting the numbers we need for Drek harder to get. So far best I've done is make it to about 50% on Drek'thar before a wipe, and that was without a dedicated tank for the warmasters.

Comentado por cucmw5

Crusader Aura, don't stop for fighting or to rescue friends picked off or Death Gripped. Don't even waste time with the RH.
Just have 1 Immortal-geared tank grab all the adds, have 2-3 equally-geared healers spam him, and however many ridiculous dps (as low as even 4) dps the boss down with the Warmasters up in a matter of seconds.
A well-geared 5-man group or even a 10-man can down the boss if they aren't interrupted by opposing players.

This all, of course, hinges on:

Your puggers don't run out and evade-bug the boss.

Your opponents don't recall / run in and kill your tank or healers.

The Warmasters' charge stuns don't completely shut down heal bombs. Better to bring a few more healers - tank will be hit very hard, even with decked out gear.

Comentado por 336318

I just made a raid of 30 man for alterac blitz. We all were happy because we finally got, after being called spammers and noobs, enough to get the alterac blitz achievemt. but then something happened...

I, leader of the raid, tried to inv us for AV. but...: This raid is too big to get in AV. we splitted up, but it didnt work.

conclusion: you NEED a pug raid, or 5 man party and the rest pug. you can't put more than 5 people in a queue...

DAMN! thanks blizzard... :(

Comentado por 193614

I haven't actually attempted this, but here is my theory.

The 4 horde towers buff Drek with 25% increased health and damage each, so if you attempt to do this without capturing any towers, a 200% dmg buff might well one-shot most tanks. It should be possible to have 1-2 people take Iceblood Tower and Tower Point, before the 6 minutes limit expires. That might leave you with anything from 30-60s to zerg Drek.

Comentado por DeathBlood

If you join late, you don't get the achievement!

Even if you join only 30 seconds after the gates open. =\ You gotta be there from the start. =(

Comentado por Slorafossen

As of this patch (3.2.2), BGs won't start until both teams are full, making this achievement much harder to get. You now have to make a pre-made in order to do this (unless everyone on your team suddenly leaves after the fight has started, that is).

Comentado por 88626

Got this today and pretty much pugged like 10 people from my server and had them spam rush to Drek macro and had them buff the raid group and drop feasts to make the pug group feel special. Was a dirty tick but it worked :D not to mention its a lot easier now since everyone in AV is 80.

Comentado por Aldun

We just did it this way:

We had 13 people in the raid. 2 tanks, 3 healers. We told /2 to all manually queue up (since telling 40 people to DL the addon wouldve taken too long). When in the BG, get a macro ready telling tacs etc.

Tacs are something like this:
-Ignore every bunker, tower, alliance and Balinda.
-Rush to Vann and wait till everyones there.
-Tank vann away from all marshals.
-Put down a frostwolf banner if someone has.
-Pop Bloodlust and focus full on Vann.

We did it twice in a row, and the second time our feral druid with damn good gear just tanked all. So, it is possible to have one tank, but play it safe and have at least 2!

Comentado por Taux

correct me if im wrong, but couldnt you just use 2 tanks, have one go to the back left corner with drek, have the healers go to the front left corner and the second tank take the warmasters to the front right corner of the room so the healers are at a direct 90 degree angle with the tanks that way Drek loses the auras and dps can nuke him without dying from that whirlwind, and the healers/ranged dont get charged being >25 yards from the warmasters
Edit: even if losing the auras doesnt work we could still do the 1 tank tanking drek+4 with the healers on the opposite side of the room to avoid charge

Comentado por 179578

I am not sure if this was a coincidence or not but I got this achievement by 1) Being queued to Wintergrasp 2) Joining Alterac Valley 3) Joining Wintergrasp when it pops up.

Anyone else experienced this?

Comentado por 498441

Just got this in 5:58 seconds! It is definitely difficult to get, but it's not impossible! You just need coordinated people who will listen to your plan of action...

Comentado por bobogeg

Just felt like telling you fellow wowheaders that a "Blitz" is a play in american football, where you have your players charge the enemy quarterback before he manages to pass the ball.

This explains the name since you have to run like madmen down to Drek to get this achievement :P

Comentado por 502501

And the man in the back said everyone attack, and it turned into an alterac blitz!
Couldn't believe no-one mentioned the song yet :P

Comentado por Samitch

You do not need a premade. If you can get at least 30 to rush the final GY, skipping the first two towers and killing the final boss right away, you are golden.

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