How the Nightfall Proc Works in Classic WoW

Classic Posted 2020/04/24 at 7:00 PM by perculia

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Nightfall can and does proc from glancing blows.

Nightfall can and does proc from white hits or yellow hits.

Nightfall is refreshed if the same player procs it twice within the 5-sec duration, but it is removed & re-applied if it is procced by a second player during the first player's Nightfall effect.

Nightfall can be applied from front & behind.

If there are two players with Nightfall, it has approximately double the uptime as when only one is present. (A little less than, simply due to it being more frequent for player B to overwrite player A when both are attacking, than player A overwriting themselves when they are attacking alone.)

The Nightfall proc effect is considered physical and cannot be resisted. No resists are even being attempted in the combat rolls.

Over dozens of 5-minute “target dummy” tests against level 63 Boss mobs, we found that the effect had a roughly 8-13% total proc rate, which is well within expectations for a 3.5 speed weapon with a PPM of 2 (~11.6% raw proc-per-hit).

Even in our higher percentage data sets (where we observed proc rates of 13% or more over 5 minutes) we at times went as much as a full minute between procs.

Comment by AleughAmazing!Comment by NatPaggleIsaPOSRemovedComment by CronoLinkThis is what happens when people have nothing better to do because Classic is dead/has no content; they make up stuff or are hyper focused on everything working correctly. Kinda funny really.Comment by GoldenFoxThis is what happens when people have nothing better to do because Classic is dead/has no content; they make up stuff or are hyper focused on everything working correctly. Kinda funny really.Comment by IncandioFrom The Book of WoW: Rule 1837b: Never look forward to an effect that depends on a proc, thou shalt surely be gnashing thy teeth and will soon be in the greatest dudgeon with all men who walk the earth, forsooth, for great delusions will tumble about in your phantasy about coding and other matters which lie beyond your understanding.Comment by Archimtiros
Classic is made up of very tightly bound guilds and groups of friends in my experience, something that I did not experience at all in retail.
Persistence and unity is what makes your character progress. In retail they design the experience so that you can just log in click a button and go to a raid.
Classic has a much more social aspect to it. You need to organize 40 people to clear the latest content.Comment by Killovolt1This is what happens when people have nothing better to do because Classic is dead/has no content; they make up stuff or are hyper focused on everything working correctly. Kinda funny really.Comment by SeoniaThis is what happens when people have nothing better to do because Classic is dead/has no content; they make up stuff or are hyper focused on everything working correctly. Kinda funny really.Comment by BalooSJ
Classic is made up of very tightly bound guilds and groups of friends in my experience, something that I did not experience at all in retail.
Persistence and unity is what makes your character progress. In retail they design the experience so that you can just log in click a button and go to a raid.
Classic has a much more social aspect to it. You need to organize 40 people to clear the latest content.Comment by Zipzo
Classic is made up of very tightly bound guilds and groups of friends in my experience, something that I did not experience at all in retail.
Persistence and unity is what makes your character progress. In retail they design the experience so that you can just log in click a button and go to a raid.
Classic has a much more social aspect to it. You need to organize 40 people to clear the latest content.forceswithoutComment by liktbuklI think you guys went abit off topic here :)Comment by KnorkDid some statistics on numbers from raids with nightfall. Cant link the excell file but can summerize it here. I did tests as a 2h fury dps with nightfall and calculated the dps from myself plus the added casters dps to give my "true dps". I did avg dps of 368, our casters did average dps of 351 and the dual wield fury warrs did an average dps of 578. This means a loss of 210 dps for me. Thus did nightfall have to compensate for that 210 dps by increasing the casters with more than that amount. The average uptime of nightfall that raid was 16,5% which added an average of 8,94 dps per caster. It whould in that case require, at 16,5% uptime, a total of 24 casters in the raid to be worth it. I played around with the model and tweaked some values. Our raid team had seven casters which whould require nightfall to have an uptime of around 60% for it to be worth it.

To summerize; same conclusion, its &*!@.

Function for required uptime (y) depending on amount of casters (x): f(x)=136e^(-0.0955)x