Listen. I have thought about this for quite some time. At the end of the day, the more WoW the better. I give you my permission to release Cataclysm Classic. I'm sure it will make money and there is definitely some interest from the current classic community (don't have numbers ofc) and maybe even some untapped interest from the non-Classic community.What I don't want want, however, is for this to be the alternative to a Classic Plus experience in the vein of OSRS. We could debate all day about where the line is drawn between "Classic" and "Retail"/"Modern" WoW. I would submit, humbly I might add, that the most significant line would be the modification of the Azeroth that comes with the Cataclysm. There are many things even in WotLK and TBC that introduce more "Modern" things to the game that I feel detract from the "Classicness" of Classic. I'll give an example for each. TBC introduces the deprecation of giant swathes of the map. WotLK reduces the separation between healer/caster itemization. Cataclysm infamously introduces LFR and employs the "play the patch" version of WoW from the start of the expansion. But, all in all, the modification of the world itself is the largest marker I feel takes us the furthest away from Classic.I won't even begin to expand on what I think a Classic Plus should look like. I also acknowledge that this journey and all of it's highs and lows has probably exhausted, on some level, the desire to re-engage the Classic process from the beginning. But, I would implore Blizzard to give it a thorough examination. A Classic we can play forever, for me, was always the goal.
I guess we'll just get a classic of all the expansions to experience the current meta of the expansion but to me that's really wierd.
I don't care about Cata, can we just skip it and go straight to Classic Mists of Pandaria? Now that would be awesome.
I didn't get this survey so hopefully there's enough respondents that represent my opinion. Why not survey all your customers?
I wouldn't mind seeing dungeons, raids, new 80+ zones, collections. Leave out the old world revamp, LFR, dungeon journal. I'm interested in seeing how expansions would be handled post wrath with a "classic" design philosophy, and not ruining the game for efficiency. I want to see a trajectory that isn't what ended up at the modern WoW we have now. I could see how the "modern" team wouldn't like this, especially if the classic design philosophy of these expansions is more popular, but who cares. Sometimes someone needs a harsh truth.
If it ever releases. I can only see it as a small Season. Not much to do in Cata unless they plan on releasing cutted content, like the Vash'jir raid and Dragon Soul done right isntead of a bunch of reused assets. Blizzard is taking every chance after they closed Turtle and Ascension. I would vote no for a raw Cataclysm Classic. Other viable options are Pandaria which introduced Monks/Challenge Mode, and Legion's DH/M+ and stop it there.
Which Cataclysm are they talking about when saying that account wide mounts and pets was added, cause that came in patch 5.0 lol which was basically MoP.
Yesss, I want Cata Classic, please! Hopefully with transmog from release, and maybe yeah, without lfr at all. I don't hate lfr, but Cata will be better off without that single lfr raidI don't think that making classic expansions takes too much resources from Blizzard at this point (can be wrong). At the same time over these years we got used to the idea that WoW subscription now contains current patch + something something Classic, so there is always something to choose from. And yeah, nobody will make you play Cata if you don't want to, no need to be salty. You can think of it as a path to possible MoP later, which is generally more loved, I guess
yes please. cata is one of my favourite expansions. the raids were great, bosses started to actually have mechanics that u couldnt completely ignore and it was the best balanced expansion for pvp by far. many comps were viable and there was a gladiator for every single spec in the game.Edit: Aside from Dragonsoul. Dragonsoul was garbage.
This is a weird one... account-wide mounts and pets were a Mists of Pandaria thing, not Cataclysm. I don't remember when we got AoE looting but that also wasn't Cataclysm. I think Blizzard hit the button too early on this or just didn't review it properly.
I think Blizzard is going to generic, like, class changes, some classes had good design in Cataclysm, but some revamp many people hated.Like personally, Cata made me stop to play my main because I had zero fun with the new revamped ret paladin, but Cata had much better disc priest design for instance, and got even better in MOP.But in the end.. losing the old world, what's the point? we'd be back on the retail Azeroth with the zone changes, the whole point of classic was to go back to what it was back then.Personally I'd much prefer new content patches for WOTLK than Cata Classic. WOTLK was, for me, peak FUN in WOW, where stuff wasn't too complicated yet.
Base on my poor understanding of market and wow. We will have CATA classic for sure.The only way that blizzard make WLK the final classic is that..... you know..... no one unsub from WLK.
I think one of the big change people dont think about is the abundance of #$%^ to farm from previous expansions for achievements, mogs, mounts and pets. This started in Cata.It is majority solo content. People are not playing with their friends as much compared to earlier expansions.In vanilla and tbc, players either raid log or lvl an alt for current content and do it together. If the game is fun, players play more.Since Cata, players just log on to run daily mount runs, pet farm. The game feels much more like a chore than not. The situation gets worse and worse every expansion.
Why do I never get the surveys that I actually want? LOL If they made Cata Classic, I'd never go back to retail again and just live in Cata.
Leave Classic as all the old world content before Cata reshaped the world. If they keep moving forward with "old expansion:classic" . You're just re-releasing the game for free (plus micro transactions) at that point.
I think odds are they will produce Cataclysm Classic regardless of feedback. The closer the game gets to the present day, the easier it'll be to emulate and so the easier the production will be. Plus, what are they going to do once WotLK Classic ends? I don't think endless ICC and Ruby Sanctum has staying power. Cataclysm Classic will be played by enough people. Subsequent Classic expansions will be played by enough people. Content is content. Once Classic catches up to the present day Blizzard can just recycle it endlessly, with seasonal expansions, season of mastery, and even fresh vanilla servers that progress naturally to the present-day. It's the next stage of evolution for this game, though it'll probably be the last.