There is nothing to discuss, it should be a choice only for guilds just like in legion.
Why not have master loot actually see what classes are in the group, and if no one can equip then just don't offer that item on the table. Surely that's the easiest way to make sure everyone is catered for and there's no wasted loot
As long as if I join a pug (because the guild doesn’t have the numbers), to farm a trinket, I’m not robbed if I get it.Groups could be ‘master loot optional’ or ‘master loot mandatory’. This flag would be visible via group finder.Leaders can see who’s opted in and manage accordingly before pulling (or all would be ‘yes’ if mandatory). If it’s always mandatory, why would I help a group via a pug with their heroic/normal progress if I needed loot?
Tbh crafters being able to replicate raid gear sounds poggers. Would be 10x better to do the raid if you know for sure you will get X amount of mats after X amount of runs and be able to get yourself a desired item with them, without having to deal with rng for 2 months to get a jaithys or OWS. (Still doing Sylvanas HC runs on my warrior and i do not have OWS :)))))))))))))) fun fun eks D fun fun *smile* )
Just work on gearing and loot with personal loot as the system. Master loot is outdated. Don’t bring it back because some top end guilds want to be BiS geared within a week.It does nothing for the game. Move on.
I'm one of the many ppl that were against removing ML... and I would actually advocate against it returning.. Ppl are so used to the current system, as annoying it is, it somewhat works. What really need work is the vault system... there's a reason we started calling it vault of many dissapointments. A good vault system + ML would do more than just returning ML.
Sure....Bring back master looter I'm sure No one would abuse the Looting system for there own gain and not have back ally dealing and Such and rig the game form the start.I Just wish they bring back the Raid coin to Lest get lucky While having "Personal loot" on so that Jerk off do that stupid master loot On there own, While I Still get my own loot Thank you very much, Why Play the RNG Bullocks Roll when Personal loot and coin was fine, and vault just annoying.It all I ask Bring back the coin.
I say no.The change should be personal loot with free trading possibility.If we get master looter like before personal loot, you could theoretically get a piece that not a single player can wear (like a mail piece with no shamans/hunters)
No.Next question.
No i don't think master looter should be a thing it just is not worth the hassle, everyone has experienced some loot based drama. ML just means someone can ninja loot or a raid leader/loot council can be corrupt/biased. I've had guilds where the same handful off people took 2/3 of the drops and it was not because they were better either - and even if it was based on the better players getting loot then how does that help those who are not quite as good as good who then just get left further and further behind with little chance of catching up.
Never bring back MasterLoot. Never please.It's a system that many and many people abused. (and it's easy to recognize them, they'll say "No, there was almost none abusing this system". Obviously we all know this is a lie and this also means this person was used to abuse this system, it's a crook and a coward)This toxic system should never return.There is three kind of people who wants his return :•Honnest people playing with their honnest guild with friends (you can count them with your fingers)•People out of reality who thinked there was nothing wrong with this system (or the abuses was numerously low, which is precisely the opposite). There is also a few of these people.•And crooks and cowards. The main problem, people who abuse the system. They are the great majority.
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No, it's one of those things of it's been gone for a reason, and even then if they brought it back I imagine it would be heavily restricted. Heck even with PL biases still exists for excess pieces of gear. Got a good taste of that with my old guild, in which biases still existed heavily. Currently that's the nature of the game itself, and is also why it needs to stay gone. Given the other consideration was back when it was around you couldn't just server Xfer, or name change, or simply startup a new toon easily. Ninjas and the like were called out and shunned by the community as a whole due to restrictions that existed at the time, and made it stable. Yet currently the majority of the player base seem to have the I'm the only one that matters attitude, and I can just replace you or leave with no consequences. That would make ML a disaster if it were to come out again.Also just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all. Common argument against people speaking out about their experiences, and it's just basically an echo chamber to some to act like just because they haven't experienced it. Means that it couldn't possibly have happened at all.
It's a terrible system that's too open to abuse. Literally the only people who want it are people who would abuse it and world first raid guilds.i guess we could make an exception: - If you've got a 100% guild group until the final raid boss is killed in mythic - masterloot becomes available. Anything else - no.