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Comentario de Warbeast

Anyone know if this also includes the druid himself?

Comentario de 169612

i dont think this talent increase attack power in bear form by 60%
i think it increase Attack power gained by bear form
Currently AP gained by bear form (without gear)= 120
1.6 * 120 = 192
so only 86 more AP
Dont think so
it increase the AP gained by bear form including gear
lets assume a druid have 1066 AP in caster form with any gear , lets say he have 2540 AP in bear
he gets Additional 1494 AP when he shift into bear
so its
1.6 * 1494 = 2390
896 more AP , makes sense
Please correct me if am wrong

Comentario de kuonji

It appears as though simply placing 1 talent point into it will give you the full damage reduction benefit. As the attack power bonus is negligible, I think 1 point should be the route most druids will take.

Comentario de 221472

If you actually read the description, its much better for tanks. "for each friendly player in your party when you enter Bear Form or Dire Bear Form, damage you take is reduced while in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form by 3%" That means that if you have 5 people in party when you enter dire bear form, you gain 15% damage reduction (including yourself, otherwise it would be useless solo-ing) That means that with lower armor on our gear, we're not hurting as bad for damage reduction. Now if this applied to raid groups, we're see serious OP materiel (75% damage reduction from 25 man raid anyone). Meant for damage reduction, not AP increase

Edited because im an idiot and can't type.

Comentario de 10188

The way I read this, there doesn't seem to be a range requirement, which seems to imply that this talent will pretty much always give us +15% DR in battlegrounds (while in bear form). If this is correct, that's quite nice for all kinds of reasons.

Comentario de 71051

Let us not forget the simple fact that outside of our tier gear there will be no druid specific leather in wotlk, meaning only that previously where once we may have had 75% damage reduction in raid gear, we will now have ~50-60%. This merely makes us rely on situational grouping to regain what they're removing from the wotlk gear. Instead of requiring party members, Blizzard would do well to just force us to spend maximum points in this talent to and have it give passive 15% DR in bear form.

As for the range comment - there is definately going to have to be some modifyer present otherwise whats to stop druids from just grouping with afk players and friends in totally different zones and what not?

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haste on leather = *scratches kitty paw over head in confusion* sure....lets make leather usable by both druids and rogues shall we Blizzard? aha...

Comentario de 42833

Tested on 3.0.2, live patch!

This gives 3% for each party member APART from you. So 12% total, 0% if you're not in a group.

Comentario de Gylin

Just a note to all the fun loving Ferals. We might have lost some armor but this new skill reduces ALL damage we take while armor only reduces physical damage. So over all we will end up taking less damge from both Spells and Melee.

Comentario de Wollybully

This talent has no effect for solo play. Also within a party it does not count the druid and allows for a max of 12% damage mitigation from *all* sources. I hope his helps.

Comentario de 96400

12% from all damage.
100% - 12%=88% - 60% from item =64.8% reduce per damage.
60% = 64.8%
61% = 65.7%
62% = 66.6%
63% = 67.4%
64% = 68.3%
65% = 69.2%
66% = 70.1%
67% = 71.0%
68% = 71.8%
69% = 72.7%
70% = 73.6%
71% = 74.5%
72% = 75.4%
73% = 76.3%
74% = 77.1%
75% = 78%

For old 75% rpd need 71.59% and 4 man in your group.

Comentario de 62244

I am almost 100% sure this includes yourself even though it does not show it. The rogue talent Turn the Tables (https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=51629) only says when someone in your party or raid parrys, dodges, or blocks, but I've had seen it proc while soloing. So, I think you are constantly considered a friendly player and in your own party.

If the damage reduction works just like Turn the Tables then it does have some use while soloing.

Comentario de 66161

This talent was called "Mother Bear" in middle stages of WotLK Beta. It was added firstly because of gear homogenization (Rogue leather = tanking leather) and Bear Form armor nerfs, and secondly because Blizzard felt that cat ferals and bear ferals needed different specs.

Comentario de 118286

This talent does not include yourself. so it caps at 4/8/12%.
The buff is called Guardian and shows in your buff bar just like Leader of the pack

Edit for changes after patch 3.0.8:
This talent will no longer relies on being in a group and no longer shows a buff

Comentario de 241234

We are having a discussion in guild regarding this talent;
Can people confirm that this reduction is applied in another roll than armor reduction?
Giving the numbers given by BriSnOW a few weeks ago?

And in the same run; Seeing that this effect is highly similar to the one from Barkskin, Does those two effects stack? Or will a tanking specced feral loose some of the effectiveness of barkskin by taking this talent? (Not that you would skip it ofc, but the question still stands).

Comentario de hypehuman

It doesn't really make sense for this talent to give LESS mitigation when you're NOT in a group, since bear form is very rarely used when not in a group anyway. If anything, it should give EXTRA mitigation when you're not in a group, so that druids might use bear form for difficult solo encounters.

Comentario de 158998

I am curious on the PvP value of this talent it seems that in 5v5 this talent would be spectacular because with barkskin thats a 32% dmg reduction from all sources and with berserk making Mangle hit 3 targets taking focus fire seems spot on for a feral druid in 5v5, but is this worth useing 3 talents points to get for 2v2 it is still 3% dmg reduction which could allow u to free up res for other stats but i am not entirely convinced that its worth spending 3 talent points for some extra res.. any thoughts, stats, hypotheticals......

Comentario de 240887

According to Bues they are taking the group requirement of this skill next patch :P

also look forward to a -50% shift cost talents bundled together with one of our other feral talents.
and dont forget kitty aoe :P

Comentario de atkrei

this talent point decreases ur damage, or the dmg other things hit u for?

Comentario de tomgc

Does anyone know if this talent get better, worse or stays the same when you stack armour? I know that point for point armour gives you (roughly) the same "time to live" so i'm guessing this talent gives you more time to live if you have high damage reduction... can anyone confirm?

Comentario de Sxeros

When patch 3.0.8 comes out, the druid doesn't anymore meet the requirement to be in party to benefit from the Protector of the Pack migitating effect. This easens a lot druid's leveling, grinding etc. usually solo-done wandering.

Source: WoW-Europe 3.0.8 PTR Notes

Comentario de 309531

does anyone know if you get the AP increase in Cat form as well now or is it limited only to bear form?

Comentario de 226334

Increases your attack power by 6% and reduces the damage you take by 12% while in Bear or Dire Bear Form.

Pretty much explains.Only in Dire Bear/Bear form.Tested and confirmed.

Comentario de adezero

does the AP part add to cat form? kind of strangely worded.

Comentario de 70784

Agreed wording should be changed on this one. I actually put a point into this while I was in cat form and watched to see if my attack power went up, it did not go up. So i came here, too little too late now. Just dont make my mistake.

Comentario de Mangea

I've heard that PotP will grant atp in cat form too in 3.1. Are these rumors true? Can anyone confirm this?

Comentario de 316511

nope it doesn't increase AP in cat form on 3.1 making this talent purely for tanking

Comentario de 250654

Sooooooo overpowered

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Protector de la manada

Protector de la manada

Talento

Aumenta tu poder de ataque un 6% y reduce el daño que recibes un 12% mientras estás bajo Forma de oso o Forma de oso temible.

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Forma de oso, Forma de oso temible

Efecto #1

Apply Aura: [Mod Melee Attack Power - %] (23)
Valor: 6%
Multiplicador JcJ: 1
Hechizos affectados:

	Forma de oso (Pasivo)		Forma de oso temible (Pasivo)		Forma de oso (Pasivo2)
	Piel de corteza mejorada (Pasivo)

Efecto #2

Apply Aura: [Mod % Damage Taken] (Arcano, Escarcha, Fuego, Física, Naturaleza, Sagrado, Sombras)
Valor: -12%
Multiplicador JcJ: 1

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