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Comentario de stereoprologic

Well you should thank Blizzard for changing Molten Armor to give critical strike rating based on spirit, so this will be the best mage weapon we know this far. We can't be sure until we know Yogg'saron loot, of course.

Comentario de Divyraen

Due to the spirit on this weapon, paladin healers are pretty much out of the picture for getting this weapon.
Grats locks and mages!

Comentario de CrimsonTemplar

Hammer of the Astral Plane is the 3rd best Holy Paladin weapon in the game until 3.1 drops. Life and Death and The Turning Tide and the second best and best, respectively. Why you may ask, because they don't waste itemization on stats like MP5, Hit and Spirit, all of which are either sub-optimal or completely pointless for a Holy Paladin

In fact, none of the weapons in the PTR list that are usable by Holy Paladins are optimal for my current build.

It would seem that Blizzard has decided that Holy Paladins have to stack MP5 again, which is lame IMHO.

Comentario de 339576

But this weapon is more useful if u are PvP speccing with holy paladin than https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=45147 Guiding Star gives haste and mana regen, haste is useless if u specc on holy shock, and https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=45437 gives same much SP but more Stamina more Intellect and it gives CritRating instead of Guiding Start's haste. So all shockadin pvp paladins who raids ulduar going to roll on this weapon.

Comentario de Rept

Item comparison of the caster weapons from 25man raids:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/compare=45437;40396;45147;40395;40408;45457;40348

The weapons are good for pretty much all casters and we all know the perfect scenario never happens because drops are so completely random, so be happy with what you get :)

Comentario de 102378

Best Weapond till now.Much better than the Turning Tide.
But we haven't seen Yogg-Saron loot table so we can't judge ^^

Comentario de Enthorn

Staff of Endless Winter is significantly better than any one-hand and off-hand combination known thus far.

Comentario de 355252

For TTW/Fireball mages (19/52/0) this sword shows 35-45 dps upgrade over The Turning Tide in fully buffed raid setup, according to Rawr.

37 Spirit gives 23 Crit rating after Blessing of Kings and Student of Mind 2/3 .

Edit: Starshard Edge, lvl 239 dagger, is discovered (Algalon drop), and it's obviously better than this one now.

Comentario de 357180

"Paladin's still shouldn't be rolling on this. You're losing way too much haste for a little crit and SP, plus most guild's will prioritize this to DPS casters first anyway due to the spirit alone, which is a useless stat for paladins."

pssshhtt you clearly dont understand the importance of crit for a holy paladin.. spirit or no spirit, 15 crit and 30 sp is better than the haste on turnning tide.. hands down

Comentario de 50079

except if you check the weapons, there isn't a straight upgrade for paladins. So they can chose a weapon with crit (priority stat for paladins) and spirit which is useless for them, or one with haste (which can be capped in other ways) and mp5 which is pretty close to useless.

not a tough choice

(this is all ignoring the legendary which all healers will be gunning for anyway)

Comentario de 386424

Im a holy paladin and i would never roll on an item that has spirit, its just plain useless and unfair on others. it is a good looking weapon, shame blizzard have labelled it a sword, when it is clearly a long dagger.

Comentario de Tork64

A paladin in our guild rolled for this today against a Warlock and a Mage, I felt terrible for them but didn't want to start any crap over some loot. I was sitting back wondering if he was joking or not, and no he wasn't. This should never goto a Paladin, the class should stay away from spirit like its a catchy disease.

Comentario de thensley2k7

Of course. But Crit vs MP5 and Haste = EPIC WIN for Crit.

Yep, QFT. Crit enhances not only the size of H-Pally heals, but it is also the (Pre 3.2) main source of regen for many paladins. I would *never* take any amount of haste/mp5 over a weapon with crit. E.g. Torch of Holy Fire vs. The Turning Tide (comparison). One reason being, if a pally stacks a true haste set, the GCD gets soft-capped at 1 second very quickly, especially when one gains 500 haste rating just by judging once per minute. I currently use an almostly completely haste-less gear set, save the T8 gloves and a trinket which grants ~500 haste rating on spellcasts (and procs often). With just that, my FoL is well under a 1 second cast, making further haste completely wasted with regards to FoL spamming. Sure, I could get a haste piece in every slot and get HL down close to there, but I'd then be able to heal for, what, 30 seconds before I OOM from spamming HL with low crit?
Imo, no amount of mp5 can cover up the chasm between haste and crit - crit is simply too valuable a stat for healadins to forego for anything, save spellpower (only if SP is greatly lacking).

Comentario de Ghoulcraft

It looks like a flashlight...in model viewer anyways.

Just sayin.

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