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Kommentar von friedchicken17

"increase the target's movement speed by 60% for 4 sec"
yikes, how often will this cause you to send your team members over the edge of a cliff they thought they were just going to inch up next to...

Kommentar von 83654

The talent is indeed great for PvP. It gives you a handy speed buff on top of a protective shield, to escape some enemies. The poison cleanse effect is also very nice. For practical use, it is really useful against those pesky rogues and their poisons.

The effect for PvE is minimal, although a poison cleanse is something I've been waiting for.

Kommentar von 50764

Two important facts easily overlooked:

This is only triggered when casting Abolish Disease on yourself, making it far less desirable for PvE as it may seem at first

I have NOT tested this on the PTR, but the wording still clearly states those facts.

In my honest opinion, skip this for PvE.

If you're going to PvP in your holy spec however, this will be a welcome additon.

Edit: I fail in every possible way.

Edit: Has anyone else noticed that the 50% proc chance for the Abolish Poison effect on this is identical for both rank 1 and rank 2 of the talent? I seriously doubt this is true and believe it's a typo on Blizzard's side, making my second point sort of moot. As I said though, I cannot test anything atm.

Edit(yet again): This has been changed to have a 100% proc chance for poison removal. My 2nd point is thereby mostly invalid, however it still only affects the initial cast of the spell.

Kommentar von 336235

Maybe it's just me... but i'm thinking of spammable shield (soul warding) with body and soul 60% run speed.. and taking around a lower lvl character in dungeons. Just an odd idea I guess.

Kommentar von 34578

Hmm, the speed increase looks quite interesting in fact it's a rather unique buff. No other class can buff another classes movement speed unless you count Aspect of the Pack which is severely limited in combat utility. It does require you to think a bit more about when you shield though, a 4 second increase to speed can be quite helpful for peeling and escaping.

The poison change is kinda unexpected. Blizz said they didn't want to give Priests the ability to dispel poisons and in fact, it looked like they were going to make Viper Sting (which was the biggest poison problem for us by far) undispellable by anyone but drain less mana. It looks like they reverted that change to Viper Sting, it still drains less mana but it says dispel type: poison so who knows.

Kommentar von Moleculor

I really do disagree with the speed buff being 'useless' in PvE.

Kologarn's eye beam avoidance.
Deconstructor's gravity bomb, especially for people who end up in a bad position or slow to realize they've got a bomb on them. (Works also for light bomb.)
Fast positioning for someone in the Razorscale fight.
Getting away from Overload fast in the Assembly of Iron fight, especially for tanks.
Several other fights such as stuff going on in the hallway of Thorim or Freya's fight also could benefit from bursts of temporary speed.

Personally, I'm not using Inner Focus, so the next time I get to respec I'll probably move that point to this talent.

Kommentar von petre

For those doing things other than Ulduar there are many uses as well:

- Helps get a tank into position for Valor Hold portal spawns (or more generally, getting a tank where he needs to be faster).
- Kiting zombies on Gluth
- Helping any healer running from the invincable ghosts that spawn off Naxx trash (or more generally helping anyone get some distance on a mob they've aggro'd).
- Helping people infected by Grobbulus get into position faster (plus the shield is quite handy for the damage when it gets released)
- Helping anyone that has fallen behind on Heigan's dance with a boost of speed to catch up.
- Helping a tank kite a boss or avoid a damage spike (Emalon, Anub'Rekhan, etc)
- Helping people get out of void zones in time
- Improves people's mobility for "Frogger" (post-Patchwerk slimes)
- Helps me run to the back on Four Horsemen if there's trouble
- Helps people get into position in time on Sapph's breath.

I justified it at first for PvE reasoning the self-poison cure would be helpful, but the movement boost itself has proved time and again VERY useful for PvE.

When running back through an instance, I put on my PvP gear for the set bonus that reduces duration of weakened soul to cast it more often. At every 12 seconds per person I can cycle through 3 people casting it every 4 seconds (its cooldown). That's an average of 20% speed boost. Not as good as Aspect of the Pack, but still a fair boost.

Kommentar von 26824

Worth it or not for PVE?

Definitely.
I've found a use for it in at least 75% of the Ulduar, ToC and ICC encounters, especially for Hardmodes. It's an amazing escape mechanism. I know most of our tanks have fallen in love with the "Run, Forest, Run" and would have a major fit if I specced out of it.

In Ulduar:

Razorscale - On tanks at the start of ground phase.
XT-002 - Gravity Bomb & Light Bomb.
Assembly of Iron - Overload & Lightning Tendrils.
Kologarn - Eye beams.
Freya - Nature's Fury and Snaplasher kiting.
Hodir - Helping people get on the Snowdrifts for Flash Freeze.
Mimiron - Laser Barrage, Shock Blast & FIRE(HM only).
Thorim - Hallway, Lightning Charge & Blizzard(HM only).
General Vezax - Mark of the Faceless & Kiting.
Yogg-Saron:
Phase 1: (In 25man, If using the range-at-the-entrance strategy) I periodically cast it on the tanks when the Guardians get to 30% life to bring them to the middle.
In 10man, I use it on myself or others to quickly maneuver through the clouds and maximize the time we can stand still and heal or dps.
Phase 2: POISON on myself, Portals, Brain-Link, Low Sanity, tapping Crusher Tentacles & Maximizing DPS by reducing the amount of time people spend running.
Phase 3: Helping tanks pick up the guardians.
Algalon - Cosmic Smash, Living Constellations and/or entering Black Holes.

Edit for Trial of the Crusader:

Northrend Beasts - Paralytic Toxin & Icehowl's Charge.
Lord Jaraxxus - Legion Flame & helping tanks gather up adds.
Faction Champions - Running from melee.
Twin Val'kyr - Changing colors & Soaking orbs.
Anub'arak - Kiting the Pursuing Spikes & Running from Scarabs.

Edit for Icecrown Citadel:

Lord Marrowgard - Escaping the Bone Storm's deadly range.
Lady Deathwhisper - Helping tanks gather up adds, Allowing melee to quickly switch targets/sides & Running from Vengeful Ghosts.
Deathbringer Saurfang - Kiting the Blood Beasts.
Festergut - Quickly position a spore.
Rotface - Kiting the slime, Moving out of Slime spray & Moving out of the explosion.
Professor Putricide - Allowing melee to quickly switch target, Kiting the Red Ooze & Moving out of Malleable Goo.
Blood Prince Council - Spreading out for Shock Vortex, Running away from the Flame Orb & Helping the tank gather Dark Nucleii.
Blood Queen Lana'thel - Moving out for Swarming Shadows, Moving in for Pact of the Darkfallen & Finding a free spot for air phase.
Valithria Dreamwalker - Minimizing the time spent running to a portal, Increasing floating speed inside the portals & Kiting Zombies.
Sindragosa - Running out for Blistering Cold.
The Lich King - Running out of Defile, Running in and out for transition phases & Kiting Ghosts.

Halion - Moving out for Fiery Combustion/Soul Consumption & Avoiding the Twilight Cutter.

Please note that this list does not include all of the moments that I've had to use it for random unpredictable events.
The only counterpart is that it nullifies some discipline talents, but all it takes is a little communication and the problem is avoided.

Kommentar von 182403

I'm just gonna ignore all the pve talk because I want to focus on the reason this talent is here.

While it would help a lot kiting, it CAN be cast on others too, (since the way how weakened soul works you probably will) it might be a good idea to use along with the soul warding talent since spamming shields is costs a lot of mana. (altough you will lose gaurdian spirit)

Maybe it's because my main is one, but the first thing I tought looking at this talent was how awesome it would be when a (semi)holy priest teams up with a warrior, or any other class/spec that get's kited a lot. Or, otherwise, classes that want to kite themself.

Anybody who played arena will know that you wouldn't have lost if you just would have been a bit faster for a few seconds, this talent is that gap.

Kommentar von 336235

I think this is a must have. The 3.2 says 100% removal of a poison on self when abolish disease is cast. Damage Mitigation for Holy. I like it.

Kommentar von vixyia

Nobody else has mentioned yet, but this is the ONLY talent in the Holy Tree that effects PW:S.

The fact that it's so far down as well makes it entirely a niche talent instead of an option for people going deep into other trees or hybrids.

Just poor design by Blizz all around.

Kommentar von 17976

Another good use is for Heroic Coliseum Beasts of Northrend, for heroic mode you no longer get the speed buff when Icehowl stuns everyone, so the shield speed buff helps the target get out of the way if they don't have a speed increase of their own.

Kommentar von jwjsmith

I just got this and from what I'm seeing my PW:S can only be cast on myself and I'm not seeing any run speed increase, either. Hopefully this will go away with rank 2...

Kommentar von PalominoMule

This is a talent full of merriment. I don't feel as though I have many "toys" in deep holy, things that are fun to play with rather than just being useful for keeping people alive, so this is welcome. However, it is also a source of unspeakable doom and shame. There are times where an unexpected 60% speed buff from an outside source is really undesirable - and not just when they're running toward a cliff.

I have murdered many a guildmate in Onyxia 25 with this spell. First, by casting it on the main tank while he was first running up to and positioning Onyxia (thereby putting him out of range of us healers as he didn't realize he had received a speed buff for a moment); a full wipe resulted that time. The second one involved accidentally casting it on a main tank during Phase 3, just before he got feared. A tank running in the wrong direction can turn Onyxia around and cause a few deaths normally - but when they're dashing on top of that, it gets ugly. Half the raid probably died from that incident.

Both times I knew what I had done a moment too late. Do not make the same mistakes I have! Be careful! Just don't give up on Body & Soul.

Kommentar von 223389

Sort of an OH SH*T button for Priests to cast on themselves to get them out of trouble:
Cast PW:S -> Shield + Speed + Abolish Disease + Cleanse Poison
Can be case in succession after GCD to get away faster.

Kommentar von Barrahir

There is something I do not understand about this talent though. Does it cleanse poison effects on every tick of Abolish Disease, or just on the initial cast?

Kommentar von Daocpwnswow

Tanks from Maraudon and up love this talent when used with a nice bit of timing, I know I did when I level'd a tank. To make most use out of it, cast it on the tank just after a pull is complete, or just when you start moving after having drunk/eaten/licked your wounds.
It gives the tank a momentum most dps-players will not think of, but he/she gets an extra few seconds to build up aggro, and most importantly, if cast as described it gives some "free" damage absorb, as you won't generate any threat whatsoever casting this spell pre-fight.

Also, used with Soul Warding
you can pick up the role as a minor bus driver, running back after a wipe or protecting flag carrier in WSG...there's no end to the possibilities!

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Wenn Ihr 'Machtwort: Schild' wirkt, wird das Bewegungstempo des Ziels 4 sec lang um 60% erhöht. Zudem besteht eine Chance von 100%, dass Ihr beim Wirken von 'Krankheit aufheben' auf Euch selbst, zusätzlich zu den Krankheiten einen Gifteffekt entfernt.

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