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Kommentar von 132457

Will the mechanics for Hand of Freedom be changed to allow you to cast this on yourself when you are stunned? Or will this be used purely as a party assist tool?

Kommentar von 54514

I don't understand why the above was rated down, as it is correct.
After some testing on the Crystal Spine Basilisk's in STV I've found you can indeed break yourself out of a stun by using Hand of Freedom along with this talent.

The Basilisk's have an ability called Crystal Gaze, which stuns you for 6 seconds. On a tiny sample size of 7 or 8 stuns, Hand of Freedom broke the stun immediately upon casting every time. Note that this was with only one point in Divine Purpose, meaning 100% stun removal on self... I expect I either didn't test this enough or it's not working as intended right now. Having Hand of Freedom active prior to being stunned has no effect, you recieve the stun effect as normal.

After a wee bit of further testing, with only one point in Divine Purpose, it is truly a 50% chance. When it does not remove stun though, it simply says "You cannot do that while stunned" and does not consume the cooldown. Which means it is possible to spam Hand of Freedom with only one rank of Divine Purpose to break a stun, albeit a litte more spaztic that just putting two points in.

*Edited for posterity

Kommentar von Limiter

With this talent, your Blessing of Freedom also REMOVES stuns on the target, IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM IMMUNE.

Also, you can use it while stunned to get out of a stun.

Kommentar von 201969

When it says stun effects, does that mean it will not get you out of Incapacitations like Sap and Repentance?

Kommentar von 151016

Does anyone know if, because of the 3 second silence effect of HoJ, Divine Purpose can only be used 3 seconds after being affected by the stun, or if the stun overrides the silence, and you can use this as soon as you are hit?

Kommentar von warfist

I feel that this is a far better talent than it had been before WotLK. Before, I never would have taken this talent because it only reduced the critical damage of ranged and spell attacks by 10%... 10% only drops a 4k critical Arcane Barrage to 3.6k... HUGE diff... The thing that also kept me from taking it was that I heard that it didn't stack with the similar effects granted by Resilience which made it seem like a waste of a good 3 points.

Anyways, it finally seems like (after 4 years) Retribution Paladin's have received the boost they've been asking for. Can't wait to pick this up.

Kommentar von 309941

Besides the extra 2% reduced chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks, would getting level 2 Divine Purpose be worth it assuming we used a macro to cast HoF multiple times (for a level 1 DP) to achieve the same effect?

I mean, does using the said macro for level 1 DP break stuns as instantaneously as a HoF cast with level 2 DP? (or is there some sort of drawback?) Can someone confirm? It could really spare a much needed talent point. Thanks. :)

Kommentar von Budlaorf

Does anyone know if the 4% spell misses, stacks with https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=822#comments:id=553069 , the blood elf racial?

Kommentar von Distruggiuova

i've tryied hand of freedom with just 1talent for a bit and i didnt like it a lot, it frequently cause a bug where u cast it on urself when stunned but u dont go out of stun, so u waste the spell.
i'll spend 2 point on this talent and lose a 2% damage, not a real problem imho

Kommentar von 111622

Pop out of any stun or slow effect with quick cooldown? I hope they nerf this...

Kommentar von Daskies

PvP Stuns (CC) are:

Ability.................Duration..............................Class......CD/Requirements.......................................Range...........................LO
Hammer..............6 Seconds..........................Paladin....1min CD(-20@17 in Prot -20@47 in Prot)........10yards(+5 w/ glyph)......*
Bash .................4/5 Seconds ( w/ 22 in Feral).Druid......Bear Form/10 Rage........................................Melee Range.................*
Maim.................1-5 Seconds (1 per cp)..........Druid......10 Second CD/Combo Points/Cat/35 Energy....Melee Range.................*
Pounce...............3/4 Seconds (4 w/ 22 in Feral)Druid......Stealth/Cat Form/50 Energy ..........................Melee Range ...............X
Cheap Shot ........4 Seconds...........................Rogue.....Stealth/60 Energy........................................Melee Range.................X
Kidney Shot........2-6 Seconds (1+1per cp).......Rogue.....20 Second CD/25 Energy/Combo Points........Melee Range.................X
Deep Freeze.......5 Seconds...........................Mage......Only Usable On Frozen Targets/30 sec CD......30 Yards(+10 w/ glyph..X
Charge...............1.5 Seconds.........................Warrior...In Combat@36 in Arms/15sec CD(12 w/ glyph)..8-25yards(+5 w/ glyph).X
Intercept.............3 Seconds............................Warrior...Battle Stance/30 Second CD(20@22 in Fury)....8-25yards...................X
Gnaw.................3 Seconds............................DK..........Pet/30 Second CD.......................................Pet Melee.....................X
Ravage................2 Seconds...........................Hunter....Ravager Pet/40 Second CD(28@43 in BM)......Pet Melee.....................X
Intercept.............3 Seconds............................Warlock..Fel Guard@41 Demonology/30 Second Pet....Pet 8-25.......................X
Concussion Blow.5 Seconds ...........................Warrior...21 Protection/30 Second CD/15 Rage ...........Melee...........................X
Intimidation.........3 secs..................................Hunter....41 BM Spec/1 Min CD(42@43 in BM)............100yards.......................X
Shadowfury.........3 secs.................................Warlock...41 Destro/20 Second CD..............................30yards........................X
Feral Spirit..........2 Seconds...........................Shaman..51 Enhancement Spec/Every 3 Min in 45sec....Melee..........................X

LO * means there is a 3 second school lock out if the stun happens on a cast

(Sorry about the formatting, this took FOREVER :( )

Kommentar von 165330

Thinking from a purely PvE point of view, will this talent allow you to escape boss stuns, such as Kologarn's Grip or the Flash Freezes on Hodir etc?

Considering when you try to use abilities whilst under the effects of those said things, it comes up with "Can not do that whilst stunned" would a specced DP allow you to get out of it?

C
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Kommentar von 125795

Never know when to use what spell to get out of CC? Have no fear, hellomynameis here!

Cleanse to get rid of speed slow effects:
Concussive Shot, Wing Clip, Hamstring, Improved Hamstring, Frost Shock,
Crippling Poison, Frostbolt, Frost Nova, Chilled, Slow,
Deadly Throw, Frostbrand Attack

Hand of Freedom with Divine Purpose to get rid of stuns:
Hammer of Justice, Bash, Maim, Pounce, Cheap Shot, Gnaw,
Kidney Shot, Deep Freeze, Intercept, Shadowfury,
Concussion Blow, Intimidation,
Earthbind, Frost Trap Aura(these two last are not stuns, but 6 sec immunity works well)

What you want to use trinket for, I leave up to you, just dont try trinket on Earthbind or Frost Trap Aura. :)

Kommentar von 483566

with the prot talent https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=20175 hand of freedom would last 10 seconds..

and with divine purpose, makes hand of freedom the perfect anti-rogue skill

with one sell you remove Kidney shot and not be slowed by crippling poison giving u 10 seconds to beat the crap out of the rouge...

Kommentar von frmorrison

For PvE uses for this spell, this can remove the frost stun from Icehowl breath and the freezing slash from Anub (hard to get this one cast though, only a 3 second stun).

There are some 5-man bosses that stun as well, but I don't remember their names.

Kommentar von iMathias

Cleaned that up for you. (Credit to Daskies for composing this list (or looking it up :p ) )

Druid

Class	Ability	Duration	Cooldown	Range

Bash	4 Sec. (5 Sec).	10 rage (bearform)	Melee
Maim	1 sec / cp.	10 energy(catform), 10 sec, cp's	Melee
Pounce	3/4 sec. (4 Sec.)	50 energy(catform), Stealth	Melee
Death K.	Gnaw	3 Sec.	Pet, 30s	Pet melee
Hunter	Intimidtion	3 Sec.	41 BM / 1min cd (42 Sec.)	100y
Mage	Deep Freeze	5 Sec.	Frozen target, 30 sec. cd, talented	30y (40y)
Impact	2 Sec.	Fireblast , talented	30y
Paladin	Hammer of J.	6 Sec.	1 min Cd (40 sec) (30 sec)	10y (15y)
Rogue	Cheap Shot	4 Sec.	Stealth / 60 energy	Melee
Kidney Shot	1 Sec. + 1 / cp	20 Sec. Cd / 25 energy, cp's	Melee
Shaman	Bash	2 Sec.	45 Sec. Cd, Spirit Wolfs	Pet Melee
Warlock	Shadowfury	3 Sec.	20 Sec. Cd, Talented	30y
Warrior	Charge	1,5 Sec.	15 Sec. Cd (12 Sec.)	8-25y (30y)
Intercept	3 Sec.	30 Sec. Cd (20 Sec.)	8-25y
Concussion Blow	5 Sec.	30 Sec. Cd, 15 rage	Melee

Other skills that are considered a pvp stun are: (by Ensley03 & debaser)

War Stomp (Tauren racial).
Sap

The interrupt portion of Bash, Hammer of Justice and Maim no longer affects Players. (by sgottolo)

Kommentar von Carlotta

I've always wondered since I have not checked it myself, but can a caster reduce, the chance of resisting a spell, like this talent offer, down to 0%, by increasing his/her hit by 4%? And while this subject comes to mind, does those racials that provides 2% resist to certain schools, can they also be affected by the opposing caster getting more hit%?

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