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评论来自
billymx
In the RARE case people get Brumbles, this does ~42 Nature damage everytime they are hit. This is still Nature damage so some mobs do Resist it however it can be fun in PvP.
Compared to a Pallies Ret Aura (which does 26-39 Holy damage) this is higher however the there is no Holy Resistance so it can work better or not.
评论来自
64664
Eventhough you increase your + Nature Damage through items, it doesn't seem to have effect on the Thorns. Which in fact is Nature Damage.
评论来自
84425
The second buff Druids learn, Thorns is quite effective in my opinion. Though it only does 3 damage at a time for rank 1, it adds up. Thorns supposedly covers the recipient in thorns, so that for each melee strike you recieve, the attacker will take a small amount of damage. As previously stated, rank 1 does 3 at a time. A lot of Druids, when attacking a town of the opposing team, like to cast thorns on their party members so if any "noobies" attack them, they'll die on their own.
评论来自
65503
just like pallys rebution aura but for only 10 mins
评论来自
Alikat
Agreed with Sempra. I'm one of the rare balance druids who got brambles, and find it an indispensable part of solo PvE play. Especially at lower levels when thorns is a major damage dealer, it remains a vital edge through out the game. Useful when engaged with more then one melee mob, and can be devastating against enemies that have a rapid attack, like rogues and cats. And in situations were your main form of cc (roots) is useless (indoors), you can't afford to pass this up.
I would like to see Blizzard give thorns (and bramble as well, I suppose) a more exponential upturn in damage output (and a longer duration), as it does become pretty useless in end-game play, were bosses and elites have hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hit points. I don't even bother casting it on party members in dungeons anymore. An easy way to boost high-level usefulness would be to give it a portion of your +Nature Damage number. 100+ damage per hit, and now you're back in business.
The short of it, though, is that it's free damage.
评论来自
Rexia
The damage on this may be low at higher levels, but for a level 2 warlock I got a thorns buff from a friendly druid and was an unstoppable killing machine. I would sit there immolating about 5 wolves and just stand there and thorns + the DoT from immolate would kill them. I highly reccomend this for power grinding to 10 or whatever.
评论来自
33153
I've never played a druid so I don't know, but recently a druid refused to give me (the warrior tank) thorns because he said it would aggro him.
I"m 99% sure he was wrong, but can someone confirm this?
评论来自
23731
Anyone know if imp thorns stack with imp retribution aura and with Blessing of Sanctuary?
评论来自
Draconax
Thorns now also scales with spellpower. I`m unsure of the exact coefficient, but using rank 7 at lvl 71, my thorns are hitting for over 90 a hit with 1080 spellpower (which I believe gives it a 6-7% coefficient). With rank 8 thorns, and 3/3 Brambles, expect 250-300 dmg per hit at 80. Not too shabby for being completely passive damage. Should make for a bit more interesting fights against rogues.
评论来自
182106
Here's something you may not know about thorns but you should.
THORNS REDUCES EXPERIENCE!
The amount reduces is based on how much it does to the target based on its max hp.
Case study:
Lvl 24 shaman being boosted by a lvl 70 druid.
Druid kills lvl 18 Defias Strip Miner
Shaman gets 26 exp(+13 rested bonus)
Druid then applies thorns then hits a lvl 18 Defias Strip Miner with mallet doing around 40% dmg then waits for it to die from thorns.
Shaman gets 20 exp(+10 rested bonus)
Druid then stands next to lvl 18 Defias Strip Miner to aggro it and let it kill itself
Shaman gets no exp
In short:
Dont use thorns if you are boosting someone especially in bear form where it will be inflicting alot of dmg. If you are lvling dont use it unless you NEED the dps to kill the mobs. If you have no exp to worry about then feel free, or if you dont mind losing a little exp per mob to thorns.
评论来自
177035
Can anyone confirm if you are sapped by a rogue, Thorns can proc and take the rogue out of stealth?
评论来自
203775
*ahem*
My thorns tick for 100s .
Dunno how
评论来自
203775
@ lvl 70 with like 560 bonus damage mine tick for ~105. I have 3/3 brambles
评论来自
samarium
Interesting that it scales with spellpower, when (outside of pvp) the spec that would get the greatest use from it is Feral.
I think they should do with this what they did with Consecration - make it also scale with rising attack power. This would give druids some serious reactive threat and make AoE tanking more feasible than it is (which is admittedly better than it was pre-patch, but still pretty far off from what pallies and warriors can now do).
评论来自
203775
Any idea if The buff is based on personal spell power or the person its on.
Idk how to word it but lets say my thorns at 688 SP tick for ~120
If i cast it on some with 1K or 400 etc will it tick based on my spellpower or theirs?
Also if i use Idol of the unseen moon proc + vengeance of the illidari (~240 extra SP) then thorn myself wkill it hit based on that for the whole 60 mins?
EdiT: tested it ticks for about 135 for the duration of the buff then back to normal.
评论来自
samarium
I didn't forget that, there's just no reason it shouldn't also scale with AP - Consecration does, and that's something the pally can do for themselves.
I shouldn't have to drag a resto or balance druid with me to instances for the sake of getting better thorns, especially with the
Glyph of Thorns
telling me I'm supposed to use it on myself.
Reactive damage is a mainstay of tanks - retribution aura, damage shield, thorns. Thorns comes out on the bottom 'cause it does a non-scaling 25 damage that doesn't even get a threat bonus.
EDIT: And in any case, your argument isn't
valid
:
Currently, Thorns scales off the spellpower of the recipient. My untalented full feral gear cast thorns does 125 on the pally maintank. When I cast it on myself, it does only 25.
评论来自
203775
at 1.7k SP they start to tick for 320s with brambles
=]
评论来自
Deivijs
Was kicking some boomkin butt at the logging camp in Grizzly Hills. I was like wtf, when his thorns were hitting me for 300 damage each. That's just crazy. He didnt hit me once, but thorns alone were enough to takedown 40% of my health with (Feral kitty with 1.0 attack speed ><)
评论来自
mjblink
wow, now i know why this oomkin had to come up to attack me while doing dailies. using weps hasted to 1.67/1.21 i almost killed myself fighting him (414 each hit and was hit 23 times). was only hit with
Typhoon
once and then an
Insect Swarm
right before he died. i had 17k hp and lost 9500 of it to thorns and would have died a few seconds after the druid had i not used a potion (couldn't find food fast enough). kinda lame that a class can kill you and only have cast 2 spells at you.
评论来自
287376
Ok i just got my druid bear form and i know i generate rage with auto-attacks and i was wondering if thorns also generate rage
评论来自
70508
Did they change this to hit the target when you are meleeing? If so then most melee DPS should have this up...
评论来自
Serai
Thorns: This spell will now properly use the druid’s spell power to determine its scaling instead of the target’s spell power.
i never really knew this was a bug, but this helps threat generation a bit, in my old talent spec i always had one point left and put in improved thorns, making it return 200 dmg but as the tank had no sp it was only about 100
remember, every bit helps
评论来自
273450
There is a quite nice bug out there. You know when a high level player throws a buff on a low lvl the buff gets scaled into the players level? Well... thorns dont, it can help quite alot if you're passing by a lowbie who's killing stuff :)
评论来自
365058
I like to give tanks a nice buff with this:
3/3 Brambles > Put gear on with most spellpower > Raid Buffs > Proc 2 spellpower trinkets (1355 extra) > Buff tanks
Its nice to see off tanks with thorns in their top damage abilities.
If I can get both trinkets to proc then thorns hits for about 500-600.
评论来自
277982
I heard that this spell will no longer hit the attacker every time they attack anymore. So this means it is now getting an internal cooldown? How long is it?
评论来自
faia
Why is it so many druids that not use this in group/raids?
sure it's small but it help's tank's with aggro a bit and damage a tinybit
its a buff why not throw it on when its cheap?
评论来自
Samin
Just want to be totally clear on this..damage from thorns can not crit, right?
评论来自
336769
From now and on I (almost) hate Blizz.
YOU CAN NOT JUST STAND AND HEAL AND WAIT FOR THORNS TO KILL YOUR OPPONENT, YOU CAN'T LOOT THE MOB THEN! (Yes, i did that on 3 lvl 71's as a lvl 71 resto druid)
Dunno if you get xp, forgot to check that...
评论来自
530147
Now we need a Gift of the Thorns or something like that xD
评论来自
Thottbot
Why nerf druids when theyn can cast this on any friendly player...that means that you can benefit too! but, he is right this ability is very powerful. i had thorns rank 2 on when doing killing fields and i got 2 harvesters on me at once (both above my lvl) i went bear form and tanked, shapehsift, heal, shapshift,etc...and by the time i finished the 1st one the 2nd one was at 1/4 of its health and i finished it off easily.
评论来自
Thottbot
LOL yeah nerf em!
/60 Druid
评论来自
Thottbot
sents this is a spell effect does it get the effect of + to damage gear...just wondering
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm also wondering if this spell is any good for PvP. Is spending talents into Improved Thorns worth it?
评论来自
Thottbot
yeah. right.
seriously. max throns only does 18dmg. which is totally lame. save ur money and get something else.
评论来自
Thottbot
no spell is worthless!
just a bit pf mana for the ability to do a tiny bit of damage.
6% is a lot!
what woould you rather face, a druid with thorns or without?
idiot
评论来自
Thottbot
druids are the lat class you'd want to nerf.
nerf them because they can solo? the shadow priest can solo and i don't see you complaining. the shaman can**takes a deep breath** rez, telly, walk on water(priest ability) look around corners with far sight(hunters), wear mail(at 40) get a travel form at 20( 20! thats befoe druids, the true shape shifters)
if any class needs to be nerfed, tis shammys
i am gonna get half the horde hating me, but soon they'll agree with the release of BC and the dranea shammys
评论来自
Thottbot
(warlocks)
评论来自
Thottbot
actually when i was dueling a rogue thorns finished him off, he was so pissed off and every1 was laughing at him that he just said gf and Run away as fast as he could.
but agains mobs this dont do a lot of dmg at higher lvls 60+, its maybe good at low lvls but anyways i have them on me all the time :D
评论来自
Thottbot
ok i use this all the time very useful if you don't want to fight some thing or you need to run just 1,2,3 and and they are pissed this is good if a high level is agro and your gonna die just stop em in there trakes
评论来自
Thottbot
every1 says for a balance druid thorns SUCKS but it does not, in the talents if u max bramble (increases thorns damage by 75%) than it does alot more damage cause my lvl 46 druid has thorns and it only does 15 BUT, with bramble maxed it does 24.
and id bet by here ur wondering why this is anti rogue, well imma tell u
rogues are fast hitters with thier dagger and sword (fast/damage combo) combination so with thorns on me rogues will get 24 damage every basically second, so throw on barkskin and heal urself with thorns on and within 10 hits, they have already done 240 damage to themselfs trying to kill you. of course ur saying but at ur lvl, 100 hits would do 2400 damage and thats like a rogues total health, id take forever so with that 24 damage per second, moonfire, insect swarm, and maybe wrath/starfire they r as good as dead.
so if u r ticked off at all those twink rogues owning u on ur mage than make a druid and rogues will think they have the upper hand, but it will backfire on THEM. so in result: if u do this alot, and telling ur friends, guildies, and other druids to do this rogues will become the easiest to pwn and there will be less rogues twinks then go back to ur mage and ur problems will be gone, and not to worry, im still brainstorming a way to pwn those ever annoying warlocks with a druid
peace out druids
评论来自
Thottbot
Tossess something about 100-300 bonus damage.. Not imba, but worth of click.
评论来自
Allakhazam
As of now, Thorns and other damage shields will quite often interrupt Hibernation. I have also seen thorns interrupt Gouge, though not quite as often. I'm sure it could and often does interrupt Polymorph and other forms of disorientation also.
The reason for this is because the damage caused by the damage shield has a delay, and will activate a few moments after the mob has activated the damage shield. The mob attacks the player with Thorns, is disoriented by a spell, takes damage from said Thorns and is ofcorse removed of their disorientation.
This delay in damage incurred, from a damage shield or otherwise, will often interrupt other effects such as Vanish.
链接
荆棘术
荆棘术
17% 法力值 值
30 码范围
瞬发
需要 德鲁伊
需要等级 6
使友方目标身上环绕着荆棘,对任何使用近战手段击中被保护者的敌人造成3点自然伤害,持续10 min。
魔法增益
荆棘术
魔法
对攻击者造成3点自然伤害。
持续10分钟
法术细节
持续时间
10分钟
类型
自然
机制
n/a
驱散类型
魔法
GCD目录
普通
成本
17% 法力值 值
范围
30码
(中程)
施法时间
瞬发
冷却
n/a
GCD
1.5秒
效果
Apply Aura:Damage shield
价值:3
PVP 倍率:1
标记
形变时无法使用
不需要形变
[Vehicle Immunity Category]
[Do Not Count For PvP Scoreboard]
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