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评论来自
5710
Hard to farm drop for 29 twinks, but hopefully well worth it. The big thing is though, use it in the off-hand with an Agility enchant on it. The +5-7 Fire Damage is not included in abilities such as Ambush and that fire damage is already calculated into the DPS. Other than that, quite a good weapon.
评论来自
39352
Hehe... Killed vishas in SM GY once, didnt drop, reset, it dropped, reset, DROPPED AGAIN! Lawl! Happily duel weilding both.
评论来自
Elinorah
Well, as a twink you maybe shouldn't use two of this. Because of the stats. Sure its quick and got a high amount of max dmg but you can get the dagger from WSG with 7 agility and 3 stamina to keep the stats up.
评论来自
49823
Does the 5-7 Fire Damage add to the max damage? Does it count as 56 max damage, when you use Ambush and Backstab? Should I prefer Claw of the Shadowmancer or this one for a dagger specced rogue?
评论来自
swell
omg i wish it was one item level higher.... mongoose enchant on that would be insane lol
评论来自
63790
this dropped by accident for my rogue in SM and does very well in my off hand
评论来自
Turbo
So far I got one in 9 kill ill let you know how long it takes to get 2
评论来自
55893
this dagger is like the best for lvl 29 twinks no question about it
评论来自
55893
this dagger, is definately the best lvl 29 twink wepon. i got this on my 3rd try :)
评论来自
49530
i was helping a Guildee get it, i told him 2 runs...but it was short so i ran it once more and got it then.
so got it on the 3rd run
评论来自
81712
I'm considering using this for my 29 Twink Warrior. Hopefully people don't make fun of me for it :P (EDIT: It seems I can't get Crusader because this weapon is BoP - is this correct?)
It seems to deal more DPS than any 1H weapon in the game besides Wands.
Am I right in this assumption - or are there better 1H weapons specifically for Warrior?
评论来自
81244
My rogue has 2 of these crusader in the MH and +15 agi in the OH to make up for the lack of stats
Also wOMG you can still get crusader you just have to have someone do it for you in game, but IMO you should be using a 2H for twinking purposes
This dagger has about a 5-6% drop rate so it takes quite a few runs to get but its still easier than the assassins blade o_0
评论来自
82321
On a level 29 Rogue Twink, should I use this, or Vendetta?
I'm 15/0/5 and using one of these in my main hand.
Thanks.
评论来自
87191
Yeah... i'm over 50 runs now... i've gotten 0...
I'm starting to believe they made it so he doesn't drop it anymore.
lol
评论来自
48836
My dagger of choice for rouge lvl 30-40. Really great and the +5-7 Fire Damage is a huge plus. Excellent dagger, well worth the wait for farming it.
评论来自
100700
So I'm new to the rogue class and twinkdom and I saw this dagger and of course I'd heard of it; my buddy talked about it for his twink rogue but after many attempts to get it and no dice he gave up. Wouldn't you know that I go in with another buddy of mine that has crazy good luck on drops and BAM! I got it on the first attempt! After using this in BGs I can say the dps is very nice and I have gotten some decent crit damages on ambushes, especially against cloth wearing casters. So all I can say is at least make an attempt...you just might get lucky like I did.
评论来自
NiklasNikke
After 8 runs this dropped for my twink, I only had 3,7 bars to ding and rested then that needed a hard metode here is what I did:
You can get one of your mates to boost you there, but DONT go in before your mate has cleared the area to first boss... then your mate can call you when he are with first boss and you go in and can loot it when it's dead...simply you only get xp from that boss and not all the other mobs...
Very usefull for me
评论来自
119512
Just so the information is available and in case you missed what Acloth said in his post, the fire damage is included in the DPS listed for the weapon. While that is all fine and good the fire damage does not apply to special attack multipliers like ambush or backstab.
Pure physical DPS without fire damage:
22.06
What this means is that this is an amazing off-hand weapon but is mediocre for main hand skills. I only mention this because I have seen several twinks using this for a mainhander and there are really better options.
评论来自
152285
Took me frickin' 25 times to get 2 of em >_< you can enter and rest about 10 times or so. my twink is only 28...i hope its gunna be worth it T.T i could just be really really really unlucky....
评论来自
164181
uh just got my bro to help me farm it no use
5 tries no dagger
gunna do it tmrw or something maybe agian
all i got was 4 brass knuckles
and 1 leather helm of the tiger actually used it instead of green tinted goggles
OH or MH tough call
already have the wsg dagger
been off handing the Z blade not good poison application i do say
so ya gunna keep on farming
评论来自
wiman
Kk, Let's break it, a 29 ambush twink would wanna go for 1 of theese and use it in mainhand with a +dmg enchant. no crusader or lifestealing or 15 agi... +dmg for MUCH higher ambush crits... comparing this to the WSG dagger, dmg intervall = +1 minimum dmg and +2 maximum this makes it a slightly better ambush dagger, but lacking stats... but to have this in offhand, well what's the point when the opponent usually dies in a ambush, backstab or ambush, vanish, ambush combo?? go for stats in the offhand instead like WSG dagger with +15 agility...
评论来自
173812
This daggers are very good for assination rogues, for twinks to, they are usefull up to lvl 44 if you cant find any better daggers,´ happy twinking.
评论来自
174093
Getting this thing annoyed me. the run to vishas only takes a few minutes so your left over with about 45 minutes after all 5 runs. ended up running 22 times with no luck, 23rd time poker. we then ran the library 3 times and came back to graveyard just for fun at the end. guess what ANOTHER POKER.
I think for my setup i will use this Mh with +15 agil and the wsg dagger Oh with +15 agil. as well as
Naga Heartpiercer
for a ranged weapon. don't see that one too often but gotta love the +5 Agil.
评论来自
182090
i use 2 of these on my rogue 29 twink with crusader on both the procs double up so when it does u get 200 strength that 200 attack power if u ask me that a hell of a lot better than 30 agility from the +15 agility on both weapons yah u get dodge and stuff but i like to just kill the enemy instead of just staying alive but if u go with 2 crusader stack agility on everything else to make up for the loss
评论来自
186714
Best MH dagger for 29 rogues. Put +5 wep damage on it for best damage. The fire damage is great. It goes through BoP to interupt first aid and spells.
评论来自
188789
I got this on the first run on my rogue, and I love it for 20's BGs.
评论来自
148710
Could this dagger do well for a 29 Fire Mage twink?
评论来自
247000
Well, i got it on my fourth run lol a lvl 80 friend of mine ran me
Surely the best subtlety weapon for rogue twink.
Good luck getting it guys!
评论来自
Slit
I do 1300 dps + with 2 of these in Naxxramas for fun ;-) rest of gear is full Tier 7.5 and rest full epic ;-) Fiery and +7 dmg enchants....they look awesome, and much more painful than anything I have seen (- perhaps Blade of perdition)
评论来自
322982
7 runs 2 drops, not too hard to get
评论来自
328490
Would this be a good off hand with +15 agil for a fury war 29 twink?
My main hand is going to be the
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=2044
with mongoose.
评论来自
333303
Anyone know the drop rate on this 5% doesnt seem right to me, i have ran scarlet mon. graveyard 35 times and gotten everything but the dagger
评论来自
267417
A twink rogue on my server ran SM GY 63 times to get
one
of these to drop. I also remember talking another twink awhile back and he was dual-wielding these and it took him 97 runs to get both. Just keep at it and you will get one eventually!
评论来自
344473
Obviously the best twink rogue item. Mostly used for ambush twinks, but descent for assassination and combat as well. Lack of stats but good damage.
评论来自
338095
Got this for my brother's rogue.
3 GY runs.
2 drops.
Luck?
评论来自
391009
For a Twink Assassination Rogue are better two of these, or a dual wield with the torturing in off hand, and the Scout's Blade (from WSG) in the main one?
Just wondering, before spending some other runs to take another torturing poker.
评论来自
Skoot34
I've had two of these drop in less than 6 runs today.
The DPS using two of these was quite a bit higher than using one paired with
The Butcher
.
Also had
Zealot Blade
out of a locked chest....happy days! :D
A few runs later a
The Butcher
dropped off the last boss.
评论来自
0xfeeddeadbeef
See:
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weren't listed in by the time of posting.
评论来自
212003
I got 2 of these and ran around SM stabbing everyone and yelling 'Tell me everything you know about the Crimson Dawn!'
...
Am I wierd?
评论来自
Thottbot
Interrogator Vishas in the left scarlet instance
评论来自
Thottbot
Rogues: when you're farming for the poker, be sure to check out the graveyard for rare spawns. Because some very nice rogue stuff drops off them:
Ebon Vise
Ironspine's Eye
Happy farming.
评论来自
Thottbot
I myself am a 32 rogue and I have been farming this guy for three days with my friend, a 34 feral druid. Coming from one rogue to another, you can probably solo this guy, but I haven't tried yet as I have a druid in my guild that is happy to help me try, perhaps futily, get this dagger. Basically in the room with the boss there are a bunch of other guys, all far enough away to not aggro, but there is a guy right by Vishas that you will have to deal with during the boss fight. If you were to solo him, I would try the following:
1) Kill the first two guys in the main hall once you enter the instance.
2) Wait for the pat in Vishas' room to come around to the doorway leading in to Vishas' room, and Dynamite pull him, shoot him with an arrow, etc., pull him out of the room, and dispose of him. You might not see him at first when you enter the room - part of his path takes him to the exit of that room for a few seconds. Just be patient and wait, you're going to have to kill him.
3) Kill the two guards immediately to your left when you enter Vishas' room. I would recommend sapping one and pulling the other guy out, killing him in the hall, and then either running out of the instance, re-enter, and restealth, or vanish, or try to take the guy immediately after the first. These are lvl 30 elites so it won't be easy to do the latter.
4) Now that the area around the doorway is clear, sap Vishas (hopefully you have impr. sap) and pull the guy right by him out into the same hallway you were killing all the other dudes in. Kill him as fast as possible, run out of the instance, return, and then you're clear to kill Vishas. You can kill him where he stands, just pull him to the wall a little and be sure to use crippling poison, because he will try to run at 10% health, and he sometimes runs for seemingly no reason at all.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to pack a health potion or two - you shouldn't need it for the elites but Vishas will hit you with SW:P and Immolate, which does the majority of his damage. That stuff hits pretty hard and it will prevent you from vanishing to get an extra ambush or cheap shot or whatever. I generally start out with garrote, get to four combo points and rupture, and then just go to town. Don't bother using mind-numbing poison because his dmg spells are insta cast.
All that said, I've killed him 10 times now and I haven't seen anything drop but a green cloth item and the Bloody Brass Knuckles. From reading the above posts I'm honestly starting to wonder if Blizzard removed this item from GY altogether. I'm sure with my luck it will drop after I've picked up something better. But I really would like to gouge some Alliance with a red hot iron poker.
Anyway, I hope this helped.
Faldrif
32 Troll Rogue <Totem Recall>
Jaedenar
评论来自
Thottbot
My son ran the instance on this guy seven times and it dropped twice... on the sixth and seventh runs! I kid you not.
I'm into at least forty runs now (five at a time)and nothing... nada for old dad.
(I swear that kid has a pact with a devil somewhere... well now that I think of it... maybe his mom. That would explain a lot. Including why
MY
luck stinks. lol) <sigh>
评论来自
Thottbot
The drop rate is so low i've been in here at least 50 times hasn't dropped once... any ticks?
评论来自
Thottbot
I had 2 by my sixth or so run. I rushed the person who'd rushed me's alt but it didn't drop, about 10 times then he got fed up. Got fiery on both and did PvP for a bit while i had them, they're not bad to be honest.
评论来自
Thottbot
Took about 30 runs before the dagger dropped. Other 29 times bloody brass knuckles dropped, with the occasional crap green item.
I tried soloing Vishas many times as a 29 Rogue (wanted the dagger for PvP). But it was really freaking tough, even for a fairly twinked-out rogue. I died a lot, but did end up killing him a few times, but only when I was all buffed out with shadow protection, fire protection, agil, defense, fortitude, stamina, troll's blood and healing pots. Had to pop dodge and my talisman of arithor (damage absorb) as well. But it wasn't worth it, because on those few occasions, nothing good dropped.
He's easy to solo as a 33+ rogue though. Just have to sap and pull carefully. Now as a 36 rogue, I can do the whole room including the four dudes by the chest pretty easily.
Just passing along my experience. Hope it helps.
评论来自
Thottbot
I got it on my 7th time through it realy isnt that hard to get just kill the guy and run out if u didnt get it and reset. You are limited to 5 times a hour which sux, but its still really cool if you get it awesome for my rogue twink
评论来自
Thottbot
The fire damage is already calculated in the weapons dps.
评论来自
Thottbot
i made a macro because i have 2 of these and a claw of shadowmancer...and my macro basically is when i have claw out it ambushes then switches to poker... then at end of fight it switches back :)
评论来自
Thottbot
what th hell is this "you entered too many instances" thing? I was going in and out of SM with a friend and after like 6 times this message came up and we couldnt enter the instance. Does anyone know how long this lastst or how many times is the limit and what the hell is the dam cooldown? :S
btw for a 29 rouge twink I wonder if lifestealing would be the best enchant for this wep...
评论来自
Thottbot
Sweet! Got second poker on the 19th kill.
评论来自
Thottbot
if you are getting close to level (this works with any mob) and your twink item hasn't dropped yet this is what you do, get the twink to pull the mob it drops off an dlet the twink die but don't release then get the runner to kill the boss. you will not get exp and if you have loot on grop loot you will still get to view the loot.
评论来自
Thottbot
Its actually pretty easy and cheap to get.To get 2 i spent under 50g. I just would buy 5 runs for 5g, then later do the same every once in a while. i got 2 in under 50 runs. If you dont want much xp tell the runner to clear all to the boss then whisper u when he gets there for you to come in. Id say for the most part you wouldnt be paying over 100g if you want to dual wield. GOOD LUCK!
评论来自
Thottbot
With a little skill he is quite easy to solo as a lvl30 hunter. Just keep mend pet up and when immolation and shadow word: pain gets too much together just pop a frost trap on him and run to the door to mend up and bandage (careful don't get too close with your character because he will cast the SW:P on you too) rinse and repeat and he is easy to farm.
评论来自
Thottbot
Going for dual-wield these. I got 2 computers and 2 account and started farming this boss at lvl 22, but theres one problem... I can do only about 4-5 runs and then i gotta take one hour break and that pisses me off =P
评论来自
Thottbot
ive ran this thing 16 times today alot of greens 6 brass knuckles made 13g from all of it tho ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
Pff .. srarted level 26, tried about 40-50 times till I was lvl 27, 2 drops after around 60-70 kills.
And like 60 Brass Knuckles ..
I wondered if it still dropped at all ..
The 5-6 instance/hour certainly is annoying, especially as you only have to kill 2-3 scarlet crusaders before getting to the boss (with a high level to help) so you can do 1 run every 2 minutes.
Another BIG annoyance is that the 5 runs/hour thing is
for your whole account
, not just the specific character!
So it takes a lot of time investment to get them, but eventually they will drop.
评论来自
Thottbot
lol on mi 63 priest i was runing this with mi frind (lvl30 rouge) and it droped 1st run =-) he gets all the rear blue drops when i run him guess where just lucky
评论来自
Thottbot
me and me lvl 27preist friend went in, killed him he droped first time, thak you very much
评论来自
Thottbot
So me, a shammy 35, and my mate who is mage 28 ran GY to see what we could manage with the 2 of us. GY has a terrible spawn rate but the graveyard is not far from the instance. after severall tries (oh, we were there for the rare ofc) we managed to easily kill Thalanos (just stay away from his AOE and nuke him asap, try running around corners). So we resetted a few times until our 4th run and I must admit, we both forgot about this dagger we once wanted so bad for our twinks rogues.
He is tough, no matter what they say and will give a good fight. CC the other one and keep him CC, you will be fine.
So, dagger dropt for me and i must say, as enhancment i prefer slow 1H with shield or 2H, but with flametongue this weapon still does amazing damage and tbh, its one of the best for elementals, although it lacks caster stats, it does as much damage as a 35 blue would do. And it looks awsome !
Tell me, tell me ... little secrets
ROFL , i love this guy
评论来自
Thottbot
WOuld like to see the new Bloody Brass Knuckles that are going to drop with patch 2.4...going to be Superior(Blue), might even be more than vendor trash now.
评论来自
Thottbot
Torturing Poker is owning. the best lv. 29 rogue twink wepon ever!
评论来自
Thottbot
I started at level 22 having friends run me through just to Vishas. Only went through 20-25 times and got two of them. Now i have to figure out what to do until I hit level 29...haha! Happy farming!
评论来自
Thottbot
I've bin running this instance on my rogue for 3 days, for at least 10 runs a day of this guy....still no drop.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got it for my rogue (comming 29 twink, ex 19 twink) on my 15th run. Then just to farm some fists so I can put on AH before 2.4 (sells good then, and their BoP but if u lay em out on AH day before u can still selL! :D) But only thing i got was 3x Torturing Poker + Some greenies... Now im pissed, I never get what i need :P (atleast not right away)
评论来自
Thottbot
can a 34 combat rogue solo him or is it a waste of time?
评论来自
Thottbot
Whats the drop rait of this item ? :S
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped for me on 9th run. I received prior to that 7 bloody knuckles and some leather boots.
Very nice dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
with patch 2.4....the Bloody Brass Knuckles have been MAJOR BUFFED! finally a viable fist weapon for 29PVP
these are near impossible not to get, like the Thornspike dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
I ran SM 10 times over 2 days and got 2 of these (7 bloody brass knuckes and 1 random green as well) off of the Interrogator.
I loved them in BG's, and I will be using them up until late 30's because there is not much better out there for daggers.
评论来自
Thottbot
WHAT IS THE ODDS OF GETTING 2 Torturing Poker in 2 runs ? i just done it.... Totally crazy... Im so shocked :P
Good Luck all twinks to get this Dagger :D !
评论来自
Allakhazam
ya im stoked my 60 bud ran me through it at 26 and got 2..... 1 on the 4th run and then got another one, 10 runs after that run its sweet....
F.Y.I: I pwn in BG reconizeeee
__________________________________
GO !PVP! OR GO HOME
评论来自
Allakhazam
nice for a lvl 29 twink rogue ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
what exactly drops it? like boss or what?
评论来自
Allakhazam
in SM GY
u cant see in atlas couz it usually drops white items
This is Screen shot+loc of mob
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1697/asdzw3.jpg
GL and HF
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you want to farm a couple of these for your twink, the minimum level to enter SM GY is 20. It would be a good idea to start at 20 just in case you suffer from bad luck since you will need a average of about 20 runs for each one.
Since you can only enter an instance 5 times an hour, it could be a good strategy to alternate running SM Library in hopes of getting the Deadman's Hand to fill the time.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Screenie
Edited, Wed Jun 15 18:37:07 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
got this item.. w00tage.... Gotta love when level 50's run you through it like 10 times... heh
评论来自
Allakhazam
OWnAGE twink item duel wield with agi ownage friend has it on his lvl 29 twink rogue man he owns i think he has crusader on main hand agi on off hand but that isnt the point if your a 29 twink GET THESE FROM SM GY!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got 2 in 34 runs.
Edited, Nov 22nd 2007 4:30am by Arinth
评论来自
Allakhazam
I did about 75 runs total, and got both of mine. What i did was this, this is my exact macro spam "/2 Paying for SM Vishas runs ( He is the first mob in GY ), Each run takes about 45 seconds, I'll pay 2g, for 5 runs. And if a Torturing Poker drops I'll pay an additional 3g. "
And i got the WPL flightpath (Im ally) once you hit the Bulwark, you die and get put to SM. simple as that, then just give it time, wait back and let runner kill, if it drops, you can roll, but expect alot of lame ass claws
评论来自
Allakhazam
DAMN... i use this dagger on my twink rogue it rules !
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it on my 5th or so run, going to go back for a second one for my off hand.
-Saint
评论来自
Allakhazam
OK, but does this mean it (the dagger) does +5 to 7 fire damage? Or does this increase fire damage from spells?
评论来自
Allakhazam
"For all of us 29 twink rogues"
Claw of the Shadowmancer would be a better investment than this dagger. The +Fire damage is factored into the DPS, but when you crit, that fire damage doesn't. You're effectively critting with a 17.6 DPS dagger.
Claw of the Shadowmancer has higher bottom-end AND top-end damage, and it's 35dmg shadowbolt proc isn't factored into its DPS. Even if it only procs once out of 100 hits, you're still getting 21.5dps which is higher than Tortured Poker, AND your crits do more damage as well.
Need a second dagger?
Toxic Revenger has the same damage/speed as the Shadowmancer and is just as easy to farm as the Poker (but with a higher drop rate). Have your 60 drop down to kill Viscous Fallout and stand at the top with group loot on. You'll be in range to roll, and you'll only have to kill a few troggs. And if you don't like AoE DoTs for pvp (no clue why you wouldn't, CC is for non-twink groups), I'd still take the slower Dreamslayer over this dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm nearing 40 runs and still nothing. This is damn annoying.
评论来自
Allakhazam
looks like somthing you would shove up peoples butts
评论来自
Allakhazam
had a 70 rogue run my hunter thru picked it up in the small room can't remember name of room. anyway i got it was sicked btu mine were already better damn bop
评论来自
Allakhazam
it definitely took forever to get this thing to drop,
but it was definitely worth it.
I've used it for a while now on my rogue.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Me and my buddy went in. We alternated our mains with our alts to get them for our rogues. Took about 25 trys with my 28 rogue and his 45 druid. took 5 trys with my 45 shaman and his 29 rogue.
评论来自
Allakhazam
will someone post a pic of this please =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Put a couple of fierys on these lol <stab> burn ssssshhhh
评论来自
Allakhazam
My 2nd run with my lvl 60 friends XD
and it dropped, quite happy coz its good.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm so @#$%ing pissed, I did 72 runs with a druid (I'm not kidding...) and it didn't even drop ONE single time '-____-
So anyone has an idea why it won't drop?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just helped a mate lvl 31 Rogue with getting this and It dropped in the first run.
Looks fun and you can Dual wield it which will look pretty fun.
评论来自
Allakhazam
dang. def the best dagger at this lvl (by 5 dps and 2 damage) great for a twink
Edited, Feb 15th 2007 9:55pm by Flauge
评论来自
Allakhazam
92 runs and no drop, i know im doing everything right!
I hate you blizzard.
Anyone?
评论来自
Allakhazam
ive been tryin to get it for the past 2 days
评论来自
Allakhazam
Good twink weapon , It comes trough some pala shields cus it gives +5 fire dam.
I crit 550 on cloth on lvl 29 , nice
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it yesterday the first run :O
me (26 rogue) and my bro (60 rogue) got it within 5mins of getting to SM =D
none of the rares were spawned though :<
评论来自
Allakhazam
It's been 11th tries so far and I still didnt get this for my rogue. Still there looking for it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im going to twink a lvl 29 rogue agi specced ofc so should i go for 2x of this daggers or something else?
评论来自
Allakhazam
the best enchant you can have on this one is probobly the +5 weapon dmg... gives me top end dmg of about 120 which results in extremely high backstab crits. only other dagger that comes close to it is the scout's blade, which is about 30 less top end dmg. this weapon wins it all
Edited, Jul 12th 2007 8:33pm by XVorsichtX
评论来自
Allakhazam
well i got ran thru this 15 times so far, no drop =/ gettin more runs ......
评论来自
Allakhazam
So far, after 10 runs, nothing. Stupid 5 instances per hour crap. Ah well. I'll get it soon lol.
36 runs now. Still no dagger. *sigh*
Edited, Apr 29th 2007 9:40am by XhinYao
评论来自
Allakhazam
so 7 runs into it the poker drops, and even though i'm in xp receiving range i go to loot the guy and i can't loot because i was 10 friggin feet away..
this game is completely ridiculous, save yourself the time and go play something else
Edited, May 7th 2007 11:51pm by Williamshatner
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Allakhazam
so technically do you think this is the best twink dagger or no?
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Allakhazam
hello im selling runs to this guy. when the dagger drops i charge 40g for it just give me a tell in game "tungsten" or MSN banaan911@hotmail.com
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Allakhazam
wear does it drop SM what library or SM graveyard?
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Allakhazam
I have a 54 warlock and i had my level 60 friends run my 31 rogue threw SM GY because thats where it drops and ive never seen it drop i ran about 23 times in the last day
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Allakhazam
For all of us 29 twink rogues, the drop rate increases when a rogue takes you through. I did 10 runs with a mage, no drop. 2 runs with a rogue stealthing to him and killing him, 1 drop for me other for him ( DE ). Plus when the exp gained drops when killing one guy, not 15 or so. =D
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Allakhazam
Dude wtf lol blizz added like 5 more dps to this dagger, now its overpowering xD lol wtf?
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Allakhazam
I got this the first time round ^^
评论来自
Chompskyy
This weapon will troll you.
Went dry 30+ dungeons for this and then had it drop twice in 4 runs.
For the 29 twink rogues:
Personally I like the thornspike for raw stats more; and Vendetta is obviously the best off-hand if you're running combat with mainhand mongoose.
+5 minimum damage every hit is pretty nice though, so if I had to wager between Thornspike or Torturing Poker, I think torturing poker edges out just a little better in DPS.
If you want a more defensive set up, go for the raw stats for the slight boost in dodge rating, if you want a more offensive set up, run TP.
Subtelty rogues will want TP MH, Vendetta OH, or Double TP. Otherwise Skullbreaker/Vendetta or Skullbreaker/TP will likely be your best bet.
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Crieve
The drop rate is really bad. I got 40+ knuckles before this dropped at all for me.
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crispies
Just got mine in SOD and it appears they've removed the "fire" part from the bonus damage. It now just says " + 5-7 Damage"
If this isn't a bug, I wonder how it affects abilities that scale on weapon damage.
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