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评论来自
97443
As of 03/11/07 the stats on this weapon are:
Thornspike
Binds when Picked up
One-Hand Dagger
20 - 46 Damage Speed 1.70
(20.6 damage per second)
+18 Agility
Durability 65/65
Requires Level 27
And no, that's no typo, this 1-hand dagger currently has 18 Agility, possibly a mistake, though that remains to be seen.
Edit: ya, I did mean on the PTR, apologies!
评论来自
98511
This is definately the best weapon if you are stacking agil, think of the possibilities, they are NOT unique so you can get 2 of them, thats 36 agility without enchants, the 2 weapons twink hunters usually get ( Sentinels blade 7 agil 3 stam) and the butcher 5 agil 4 stam ) even with the 2 +15 agility enchants only has 42, with 2 + 15 agility on the thornspike you have 66!!!!! agility total, thats amazing for this level or it leaves room for you to get intellect if you need mana
评论来自
Magmy
Changed in 11-9's PTR from +18 Agi to +8 AGI.
评论来自
botono9
Will the dagger change from white/no stats to blue/stats if you already have it?
评论来自
99382
I hope it stays at 18 agility, i got 2 on my main then mailed em to my rogue b4 patch.
评论来自
99516
/cry its 8 agi
but yes mailing 4 around worked-soulbound blues-but still to high to use.
评论来自
Koshut
Prolly not going to change its just 18ap for hunters ;)
评论来自
84203
Grab 2 of these and put some +15 agility on them both makes a fine pair of daggers for a rogue twink.
评论来自
100102
Yes I just got 2 of them +8 agi but hey can't be to sad best dagger for a 29 twink pretty good DPS most highest AGi a dagger will give at this lvl and has nice damage best of yet like I said you can have 2 of them thats just damn bad ass lol sure may not be has fast as Vendetta but who cares.
评论来自
100235
Freaking sick, +18 agi? Man I love 2.3 so much, so much loot have been improved! Leveling is just THAT much more fun now when you just keep getting amazed at all the improved items.
Ah, okay +8 agi. Still an awesome dagger.
评论来自
128494
As a 27 rogue I easily solo'd this boss for the daggers. Stealth in, open with cheap shot and dps him down, I ignored the boars he summoned and had to use evasion and a health pot. I couldn't kill the boars (too low health) so I vanished.
评论来自
Agent
Also solo'd this at lv 27 rogue, it's a very good twink weapon if you are very low on gold, as I am.
He is not too tough, make sure you have evasion ready and one healing potion. Ignore the boars, they will vanish as soon as you will :)
评论来自
152285
If your gunna be a twink id go for Torturing Poker
评论来自
Strickens
Not really sure what I'm doing wrong... I got my first Thornspike from him earlier today with a group, and decided to give soloing him a go for my 2nd one.
So far after 2 kills all thats dropped is the exact same green mail bracers? I'll try killing him again but something seems fishy >_<
Edit: Nvm, it dropped on the 3rd kill :P So just to let all rogues know to bring a couple of pots in case they don't get the dagger on the first go.
评论来自
Shinu
Easily farmed as a level 30 hunter.
You'll have to kill your way to the first large open area, then just send your pet
on a suicide run for the other side of the room, run after and feign by the big bramble thing just before the two guards.
Rez your pet and have at it with the two guards, there's a couple of pats you'll have to wait for, then just run up the big fat vine (there's only one you can run up) and jump across to the other side, you'll be right outside the fence next to the boss.
Now prep for the kill.
Send your pet in to pull him out and then just nuke him down and loot your dagger, be ready with feign cause you'll have to jump down and do it to get rid of the Boars he summons who seem to be separate NPC's rather than pets. Iow, they don't disappear when he dies.
评论来自
mjblink
anyone else think it's kind of lame that the dagger he drops isn't the dagger he is using? i saw the graphic of the pretty one he was holding when i stealthed by him and then got this cheap old wooden dagger when he died. rip-off lol
评论来自
Yakeshi
Hey! Exact same technique I use!
I guess that's what pretty much every Rogue does, huh? Well I had
Lifeblood
! :D Yes, Lifeblood... Since it is a gathering proffession it is an excellent source of healing!
Bring a
Greater Healing Potion
. I also suggest using
Scroll of Stamina II
, as well as a
Mighty Troll's Blood Elixir
. It might be a fairly painful slap to you're guild bank/money bags, but these things are worth it, if you get two. Get two of everything mentioned above. Also, if money is no object, be sure to get either Anywho, the last two things you will want if you can afford them are two
Elixirs of Ogre's Strength
OR two
Elixirs of Giant Growth
.
Obviously, as per usual, open with an
Ambush
. For the actual fight, make sure you use
Expose Armor
a lot.
Thistle Tea
is a MUST! You will be using a lot of energy in this fight, as you should always have
Slice and Dice
active on you. If you have either use
Rupture
or be sure to have
Remorseless
up. Rank 2 is not negotiable, when it comes to Remorseless. Gouge, then bandage if you need to.
As for glyph's...
Glyph of Expose Armor
can prove to be invaluable, when wanting to conserve energy. You're minor glyph should be
Glyph of Vanish
, because you might want to escape, and you'll always want to escape ASAP.
I apologize for my lengthy comment, but it was necessary to state my thoughts and give my advice.
评论来自
160470
If, like me, you appreciate the finesse and skill required for dagger combat, and leveled with an assassination spec, a pair of these will last you quite some time. I picked up two when I was level 27 and they lasted me until 39 when I discovered battlegrounds and respecced Sub. Though the speed and damage range are far from ideal, the stats are good and it is a perfectly sufficient leveling weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
look at this on wowwiki.com and tell me where that one drops.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Thornspike
评论来自
Thottbot
My guess is that Blizz nerfed the item, if it did ever have those stats. One just dropped for me (I was curious why it was a white item, that's why I checked on it), and stats are as shown in the pic - a lvl 27 dagger, 15.6 dps.
评论来自
Thottbot
was thinking of getting it cause of the agility and seemed to have nice dps but then i looked at the lvl 28 pvp dagger and realized that this thing is a piece of crap well my rogue is a twink so im getting very best but if u want a quick dagger while ur lvling then i wouldnt see y this would be ur pick
评论来自
Thottbot
wow this is a lot better this used to be the only crappy piece of gear i had on my rogue, but now its worth a couple runs to get being a decent offhand dagger
评论来自
Thottbot
best 29 hunter twink wep. dont belive me? get 2 enchant em both with 15 agi never seen any wep better thnx for listening hunters don't roll on cruel barb every1 hates it
评论来自
Thottbot
I just got this today and it rocks as a offhand dagger with the best +8 agility on a dagger in this 20-29 bracket range. I have the Sentinel's as my main hand. If I could get +15 agility enchants on both... Right now I just have Fiery on both but still own in battlegrounds :) I give this a big thumbs up for this weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a rally good pvp sword for different reasons...
1. it blunders armor...
2. it has exceptional dmg for lvl 27-3 or so
3.it is NOT better than Torturing Poker. i have that my twink rogue and it pwns pvp and if u get fiery chant it really adds up including that +5-7 fire dmg.
4. it looks koll! =)
Twinkadoodle and Ubani...Shu'Halo realm
评论来自
Thottbot
I think this would be THE dagger to have in off hand for a 29 twink dagger rogue. Great upgrade from Vendetta for those looking to maximizing your agility (+ some DPS to boot). If you had this dagger in your inventory before the patch (white item), would it have automatically received the buff? I only ask 'cause I can't begin to think of how many times I've picked this dagger up in RFK pre-patch, only to vendor it.
Edit: hmm, Thornspike is SLOWER than Vendetta. This could mean something. But idk what it is... this is a tricky one! Any calculators out there? I almost want to say that the big V is better after all, as an OH dag.
评论来自
Thottbot
The reason Thornspike isn't the prefered twink OH is because though more agi is nice the 1.3 speed on Vendetta makes it apply poisons more, crippling or mind numbing or instant all are very nice,1.3 speed is a very nice fast application, that is why the shadowmancer dagger is a good MH, because it is 1.9 speed slow high top end for ambush/backstab and has higher damage even with similar dps. Torturing poker is nice dps but the fire damage isn't multiplied with your ambush/backstab but if you want it is a fine weapon due to the high dps added from the fire proc, though 15 agi>firey for enchants.
评论来自
Thottbot
the drop rate is near 95% ++++. at around 27-29 with a few points in Sub-master of disguise....stealth in with a higher level rogue or druid kill one guy. see what you get, go out, reset instance and repeat.
four of us rogue's in our guild have 4 or more of these each. with various enchants from Icy, Fiery, etc.
评论来自
Thottbot
this wep has a rly good drop rate or its so that im very lucky, me and my buddy (we are both rogues) stealthed to the boss and killed him. we killed him 4 times and this wep dropped every time. we now got 2x each of this wep :D im lvl 27 and hes lvl 25
评论来自
Thottbot
I just bought The Butcher for 31g and Diamond Hammer for 1g i was thinkin about using those weapons for my rogue.
this one look better than those.
should i sell Diamond Hammer and try to get Thornspike and use The Butcher on MH and Thornspike on OH?
评论来自
Thottbot
Thornspike is apparently a good PvP weapon for level 29 Rogue Twinks for the simple fact that you can dual wield 2 of them, it gives +8 Agility, and it almost always drops. What better enchant to put on it but +15 agility to weapon? If you can afford that kind of Enchant, which varies (I play on Duskwood and am a 365 enchanter, so it costs around 130g). With more agility added to two of these, that is a nice +46 Agility.
% Critical Chance out the arse.
评论来自
Allakhazam
After 2.3, this dagger friggin' rocks. It's fast but not too fast, has great +agl stat, and best of all is not unique! Took me 3 tries to get two for my 29 rogue. Now I can save WSG marks for other pvp rewards. XD
评论来自
Allakhazam
Thornspike has been updated on PTR. It is now blue with 8 agi and 24-46 dmg. Req lvl 27.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 6:36pm by Shyanha
评论来自
Gosutav
Cheap and great dagger for leveling!
Here's an Ambush macro for combat rogues who will use a dagger in the off-hand for fast poison application:
#showtooltip Ambush
/equipslot 16 Thornspike
/equipslot 17 <weapon name>
/cast Ambush
You can reverse that to insta equip again Sinister Strike after the opening.
评论来自
Kreuz
This sees a generous upgrade with Burning Crusade, gaining 8agi and +5 dps.
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