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评论来自
Zanarkand
Oh for god's sake, not another set of resist fights.
3.1 update: Hodir says "Hi".
评论来自
226337
the frost resist fight --->
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/achievement=2146
评论来自
Iootnega
Are you kidding? This is no where near "best easily obtainable tanking chest pre naxx"
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=44198
can be purchased from Wyrmrest, and
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=44407
is a quest reward.
评论来自
Kaynin
Belt
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评论来自
tobbelobb
I'm thinking of using this as a start off PvP chest on my retri pala... Nowadays I'd prefer arcane resistance, but I think some frost resist will be fine.
Sockets:
16 Strength
16 Resilience
8 Strength, 12 Stamina
This gives us total stats of:
193 Stamina
115 Frost resistance
24 Strenght
16 Resilience
Considering you practically don't have to work for it, I'd say it's a rather good place to start.
评论来自
14115
Mats for all the frost resistance plate gear is:
40 saronite bar
7 fire
7 water
评论来自
SeanDamnit
Latest patch notes state that the mats for all 3 of the Icebane items will be increased. So make these now if you think you're gonna use em!
评论来自
goto2
i recently tanked saph without pally resist aura or resist gear in 10 man... our guild was not geared, most people had 3-4 heroic or 10 man pieces. however, we did use 3 healers. so although helpful i do not think this piece is necessary to kill saph on regular mode at least.
评论来自
8444
The only thing they are changing in material increase , is each piece requiring 1 Frozen orb. Saronite and elementals are the same. I just checked over on test server.
评论来自
271972
while ur wearing this you can see your breath like your outside on a cold day
评论来自
101003
Interestingly,
This looks good as a starter chest piece and is probably good to have in the bank. Maybe im just old school and immediately think a tank should have this in the old knapsack for the possible resist fight, but w/e.
The fact is, I just main tanked 10 man naxx in half S2 glads and the ABof Kings, with a few cheap regems ending up with 472 defense rating and abysmal dodge. Our one real tank failure was on patchwerk when I got double critted when he was at like 12%. Our only other big wipes were on the dance section, because only half the raid had even seen the place before, and a few wipes on horsemen as we got our strat down. I was thrilled at first, thinking my excellent playstyle compensated for the crap gear. But then I realized...
10 man Naxx is ridiculously, astoundingly easy. I respecced prot, made a couple of daunting pieces, regemmed, threw on a scryer tanking inscription on the tundra pauldrons, and had a feral druid offtank. First day as a prot warr in like a year and a half. I should not have been successful, even with an excellent raid group.
In my opinion, this is reflective of Blizzard's new mission to make raid content more accessible, without the welfare epics option. I have also offtanked 25 man sartheron without dying as well, and sucking so bad I got hit with almost every Lava wave.
I hope that the content will get pretty brutal as you progress, but man, your guild should really only be doing 10 man for a few weeks. If after 3 months, your guild still is on 10 man, its probably an admin/leadership problem and you should find another guild, because it wont be a difficulty issue. I think they just wanted to smooth out the initial learning curve for raiding.
The point of saying all this for this particular piece of gear is that it is kind of an anomaly in the BS slot that its in- IF YOU ARE STILL IN A TBC mindset. You could definitely use this in heroics at first if you get enough defense somewhere else. But as of right now, while the defense cap is OPTIMAL it is not REQUIRED for most heroics or 10 man Naxx. with the balance changes to prot tanks, diminishing returns on avoidance, and threat not an issue (I am 15/4/52 for gods sake! it works!)
Of course, OF COURSE for later progression def cap is needed and desired, but man-the game has changed. This piece, though less good than the two pieces lootnega mentioned, is a perfectly okay chunk-o-stam and armor for an easy to make, easy to farm piece. Looking back, I probably wrote too much, but I am repeatedly struck by the fact that people who have played since original wow as tanks are having a hard time rethinking gear and itemization and talent builds. Like in my case I am simply freaking out over having a tank build with IMPALE, and I am even considering a slow main hand weapon. I feel like a star trek robot going "this does not compute."
So hey, you will not use it as real tank gear for long, I havent tanked 25 man saphiron yet, hey, maybe it'll do well there. Maybe future raid content will see it's real purpose become apparent. I hope so, because a lot of the best players I know are already bored out of their skulls, and as soon as they fulfill their compulsions to make all their gear epic and factions revered, achievements will not be enough to keep them interested enough in the game to remain. And I think like this: Perhaps end game raiders, dedicated hard core players, are such a minority of Blizzard's client base that in spite of all their contributions (like mods, forums, info sites, strat guides, etc,) they are being marginalized. How much time do you spend on stuff like Sunwell Plateau when only (maybe) 1% of your gamers will even see it? When you put it like that, maybe this is the end for super hard content.
Wow, this ended up as a real tangent. What do you all think?
评论来自
257415
I'm curious as to which gems to use in this and the other frost resist peices as a tank. I hear that you don't necessarily need frost resist for 10man Sapphiron but it's pretty close to being needed for 25man (even for the tank I heard). Since it has so much stamina, I'm betting that I should probably use defense gems in it If I'm going to use all three pieces. That's a chunk of defense to lose.
评论来自
235651
My little guide to Preparing your gear for the frost resist fights as a tank:
With a Paladin aura for frost resist, and the 3 Plate peices+Ring you are frost CAPPED. Not sure what the exact capped number is, but I can tell you if you have these 4 peices dont bother with anything else. As a tank doing a frost resist fight, you will need more than just FR cap. Defense rating is still important, you must hold 540 defense rating and you also still want as much stam as possible. With the stamina on the frost resist gear, unlike in BC doing Fire resist you wont take a HP dump. I am a full epic Prot Pally and with my FR gear on socketed like below, I actualy gain 1000 HP.
Gems/Sockets for this:
For one, we are talking 36 stamina for SOCKET BONUS(3 plate+ring), so we should go for those. I am guessing encounters need max DR aswell. With the ring, we got:
4 red/3 Yellow/1 Blue and a prismatic on belt.
For the 3 plate, we have 30 Stamina for socket bonus, so we want that.
1 Blue: 8DR/12stam-
Stamina if capped on DR
1 Prismatic: 16 Defense rating-
Stamina if capped on DR
3 Yellow: Pure 16DR
3 Red(on Plate): 8 parry/8 DR (better for other class's than DK, 8 dodge/8DR, unfortunatly pattern does not exist). If your good on DR 8Dodge/12stam or 8Parry/12stam(DK)
1 Red(on ring): For Bonus, Go with above.
or if you need it you can go PURE DR and lose the 6 stam. Not much of a less next to the other 3's bonus.
ENCHANTS:
Chest: 22 Defense Rating.
Boots: 22 Stamina.
At the best, saying you went as much into defense and stam as possible(defense as Priority, for all 4 red i went with all parry/dodge/DR so all bonus's apply) you will end up with 597 Stamina, 475 FR(with aura), 126 Defense Rating, and either 32 parry or 32 dodge(when pattern comes out). Which I am pretty happy with.
If your still low on DR, I would just switch out one of your trinkets for stam with a Defense rating trinket, maybe even both if needed(I was able to keep both trinkets stam, switch out the 4 items and went from 548 DR to 540 DR). The 126 Defense rating is very nice for having none on the items to start. 597 Stamina is just killer with the gear we should have at this point i dont see much of a stamina loss, i have 2300 stam now, and this 597 stam is only on 4/16 items(4/17 if warrior).
评论来自
Bloodanger
This is also used by Warriors with an irrational fear of frost mages.
评论来自
278437
As i know that there is no need of frost resist gear on 10men Saphiron, i wonder if i should craft at least 1 piece of frost resist gear for 25men? (i´am melee dps)
评论来自
311256
With the Huge Stamina and very decent armor on this piece, combined with the 3 gem slots, I have made this my tanking chestpiece. The frost resistance is kind of wasted, save for a few fights, but I have not seen a piece with stamina on it that comes close to this one.
I have it socketed with Glimmering Monarch Topaz (8 Parry, 8 Defense), Thick Autumn's Glow (16 Defense), and Enduring Forrest Emerald (8 Defense, 12 Stamina), giving me the socket bonus of 12 Stamina. On top of all that I got the 22 Defense enchant on it, giving me a total of 193 Stamina and 54 Defense Rating! I don't think I would even replace this with the tier 7 piece.
评论来自
austaph
Mats for the plate items and the ring are:
40 Saronite Bars
10 Eternal Fires
10 Eteranl Waters
4 Frozen Orbs
2 Titanium Bars
评论来自
Colbol
When socketed with 3
Solid Sky Sapphires
and enchanted with
Powerful Stats
, gives a whopping 251 stamina, or 266 with
Vitality
, for a hearty 2510/2660 health
评论来自
Ventras
Mats pre 3.2:
16 Saronite Bars
3 Eternal Fire
3 Eternal Water
1 Frozen Orb
评论来自
Anarchy
Total Materials required to craft all three plate frost resistance pieces:
40 x
Saronite Bar
7 x
Eternal Fire
7 x
Eternal Water
3 x
Frozen Orb
Estimated total materials cost = 510 gold.
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