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评论来自
19583
This is quite the druid trinket. Since we have a 1.0 attack speed in cat form, each point of weapon damage adds a straight 1 DPS. 14 AP = 1 DPS, meaning that this effectively has a whopping 98 AP, not to mention the use.
Great trinket for all melee classes though, obviously.
评论来自
Acidpants220
Exodus is refering to the weapon damage, and as far as we've seen in the past it's worked with a feral druid in the past.
P.S. Great name for a Trinket huh? >.<
评论来自
6780
+weapon damage has always worked in druid feral forms as long as it wasn't a weapon enchant (like striking). The Cenarion Circle ring worked, the ring enchants work. Even Tiger's Fury buff works on the same mechanic. So it will very much work in feral forms.
However, it is not exactly the same as +98AP. A true +98AP (from str or straight AP) would increase damage done by all special attacks. +7 weapon damage will only cause attacks based on weapon damage to scale (mangle, shred, ravage, shred). It won't cause extra damage to any of our special attacks that use a purely AP formula like rip or bite. Still +7 weapon damage is still nothing to sneer at.
评论来自
52907
Available at revered with Ogri'la, costs 50 Apexis Shards
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32569
and 1 Apexis Crystal
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32569
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If i am right, 1 Apexis Crystal is made from 50 Apexis Shards.
评论来自
54527
Do these type of trinkets/bonuses work for Hunters on bows?
评论来自
39921
Does this stack with +7 or +9 weapon damage enchant to weapons?
Good lord imagine that......
+16 weapon damage......ohhhhh baby.
评论来自
MBar
If the cooldown on this is actually 1 minute (instead of the standard 2 minutes for similar Trinkets) then this thing is frickin' IMBA.
Can anyone who has it confirm as much?
评论来自
57443
what is better for a mutilate rogue...this trinket of bladefist's breadth?
评论来自
63660
OK I tried to pin down how much DPS this trinket would add for a 41/20/0 mutilate rogue (like my char) in a long fight. My char has a 1.8 MH, a 1.5 OH.
With SnD running, my weapon speeds become 1.39 and 1.15. The trinket therefore adds 5.04 DPS to my MH and 4.57 to my OH if I have 0% crit (assuming the +7 is affected by the 0.75% OH penalty I have after taking DWS). The +7 is doubled on crits, so assuming 25% crit the DPS added to white attacks is:
White damage added
Average damage added to MH swings /w 25% crit: (7*0.75)+(14*0.25) = 8.75
Average damage added to OH swings /w 25% crit: (5.25*0.75)+(12.1*0.25) = 6.97
DPS added to MH with 1.8 weapon +SnD: 6.29
DPS added to OH with 1.5 weapon +SnD: 6.06
Mutilate damage added
The trinket also adds to my mutilate damage like so:
MH non crit: +7
OH non-crit: +5.25
MH crit /w lethality: +16.1
OH crit /w lethality: +12.1
Average damage added to MH mutilate /w 25% crit: (7*0.75)+(16.1*0.25) = 9.25
Average damage added to OH mutilate /w 25% crit: (5.25*0.75)+(12.1*0.25) = 6.94
Adding these to get the average amount of damage added to mutilate gives 16.19. Assuming you mutilate to the max (every 6 seconds) and never use finishing moves (lol) the trinket adds 2.7 DPS to mutilate - obviously this number is artificially high since you mutilate less often than once every 6 seconds but I cba to work that out.
Adding the mut and white damage numbers:
6.29+6.06+"2.7" = a bit less than 15.05 DPS for the +7 damage part with my daggers and 25% crit
The "on use" portion gives 216AP for 10 seconds on a one minute cooldown. Spamming it whenever it's up is an average of 36AP, although you can "time it right" and let your energy fill up before clicking it to get maximum use out of this (the fast CD makes this trinket ideal for battlegroups btw). I dunno how to work out how much DPS 36AP would give to a rogue with my gear/spec, but I assume it's like 1-3ish making the grand total DPS about 16, with a margin of error of about no more than +/-4 (assuming you remember to click it once a minute!).
Is this any good compared to other trinkets?
I got out the bleedo spreadsheet and unequiped my trinkets, then put other trinkets there and recorded how much my DPS went up. Here's the results (don't have romulo's, my spreadsheet is a little old)
Abacus of Violent Odds: +21.5 DPS
Bladefists Breadth: 15.1
Hourglass of the Unraveller: 19.6
Bloodlust Brooch: 23.8
(I'm trusting the people who made the spreadsheet to be right. I have roughly half and half Kara gear and blues btw)
Therefore, it is only a very mild upgrade over Bladefist's Breadth for my gear/spec, and is beaten by the easy to get abacus and hourglass.
..........
The trinket is worse than I calculated for sword/fist/mace rogues, since 1) your MH is slower and 2) you SS for 40 energy while I mutilate twice for 60 energy (although my OH suffers a penalty...). I'm not sure if this trinket is best for 41/20/0 or for 15/41/5 daggers (since for this spec you will usually use a very fast OH, and you will have more crits), but it may be a moot point if it sucks as much as my maths suggests.
Druids, you do not get more benefit from this than do dagger rogues. 1.0 attack speed is not as fast as a dagger rogue with SnD running, although if you have crappy trinkets it may still be an upgrade. Arms warriors and retadins, stay waaaaaay clear.
评论来自
59509
Can we get some testing from Enhancement Shamans here? That +7 dmg is looking mighty nice for WF over a long haul.
评论来自
18814
For the record, the +weapon damage has no effect on ranged damage... Right?
评论来自
34072
As a Hunter, how does this compare to Bladefist's Breadth? How much difference does +7 Weapon Damage make to our overall DPS? CT has a 1 min cooldown and gives 216 AP but it's effect only lasts 10 seconds while BB has a 1.5 min cooldown and gives 200 AP but it's effect lasts 15 seconds. I'm not sure if that's a significant difference or not. So maybe the real question is this: Is 23 crit worth trading for +7 Weapon Damage? Is one better than the other for PvP or raiding or grinding?
评论来自
21187
With it's short cooldown and straight + melee damage, it's pretty suited for a feral druid.
I've got it linked to my finishing moves for an extra little kick. It's almost always up in PvP.
评论来自
38612
This trinket DOES effect both ranged and melee.
评论来自
Cousss
Does this stack with the +7 dmg enchant ?
评论来自
bigbadfokker
134AP trinket for druid's melee attacks
评论来自
Coocks
I wonder if you can make Orgi'La rep with a lvl 19 twink =)
评论来自
30320
Does anyone know if this activates a cooldown with other trinkets, e.g. Bloodlust Brooch?
评论来自
116013
Just to make sure, can the "on use" function be done while in Cat form? Or would I need to shift out of Cat form, activate trinket, shift back into form, wait till I'm full of Energy and then attack.
In which case the 10 sec buff is only going to be good for roughly 6 secs...
评论来自
77289
can you use Bladefists Breadth with this one to at the same time ?
评论来自
56282
One way of thinking about it as a hunter when trying to decide between this and
Bladefist's Breadth
is if we take the use effect to be roughly similar we can compare them as scopes:
would you rather have:
Sniper Scope
or
Stabilized Eternium Scope
I would suggest that hunters look elsewhere.
评论来自
Thrakin
Awesome Hunter trinket. Been looking at my other trinkets, and I'd definitely take this over Bladefist's any day.
Think about it. It adds 7 to every singleshot you make, which equals a flat +7 DPS increase. Now, 1 DPS = 14 AP at level 70, in other words this trinket adds:
7*14 AP = 98 AP
So the crystalforged trinket actually equals 98 AP. This is +26 more base AP than Bloodlust Brooch!
Furthermore, it has an on use effect that adds a high +AP ( Compared to Core of Ar'kelos and Bladefist's Breadth ) over a short period. This makes it extremely good for most trash raid pulls, since they rarely last more than 30 seconds anyways, and the low cooldown means you can spam it almost every single pull.
On bosses, though, I'd definitely grab Bloodlust Brooch/Bladefist's Breadth, but if you're looking for flat DPS, This > Bladefist's.
评论来自
Kathucka
For hunters, ranged weapon damage bonuses, such as scopes and this trinket, apply only to Auto Shot, Multishot, Aimed Shot, Silencing Shot, and Scatter Shot. They do
not
apply to Steady Shot, Arcane Shot, Serpent Sting, or Wyvern Sting. They do apply to melee auto attack and Raptor Strike.
So, for a hunter weaving a Steady Shot and Autoshot every two seconds, the +7 weapon damage adds a flat 3.5 DPS before armor. Not great.
The activated use, on the other hand, is nice for solo farming and group/raid instance trash, because it adds a lot of attack power and has a short cooldown.
评论来自
440197
As of 3.3.3 this now has a lvl 70 req. Twinks can no longer use it :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
Posted on wrong item, very sorry. Please delete this post.
Edited, Dec 12th 2007 1:23pm by robkent
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know if this just affects Melee damage or ranged too?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Never mind...
Edited, Jun 1st 2007 5:01pm by AddictedFanatic
评论来自
Allakhazam
It has a 1-minute cooldown, and it affects ranged damage too. Overall a really nice trinket to have.
评论来自
Allakhazam
what is the cooldown on this?
评论来自
Thottbot
Do druid paws count as weapons?
评论来自
Thottbot
Hm..does weapon damage work on ranged weapons? If so this is really nice for hunters too..
评论来自
Thottbot
yeah i was thinking that? is this like an xtra 7dps to all base attacks? cuz then my hunter would love this...
评论来自
Thottbot
good for dagger rogues.
评论来自
Thottbot
Edit: see below for some corrections.
OK I tried to pin down how much DPS this trinket would add for a 41/20/0 mutilate rogue (like my char) in a long fight. My char has a 1.8 MH, a 1.5 OH.
With SnD running, my weapon speeds become 1.39 and 1.15. The trinket therefore adds 5.04 DPS to my MH and 4.57 to my OH if I have 0% crit (assuming the +7 is affected by the 0.75% OH penalty I have after taking DWS). The +7 is doubled on crits, so assuming 25% crit the DPS added to white attacks is:
White damage added
Average damage added to MH swings /w 25% crit: (7*0.75)+(14*0.25) = 8.75
Average damage added to OH swings /w 25% crit: (5.25*0.75)+(12.1*0.25) = 6.97
DPS added to MH with 1.8 weapon +SnD: 6.29
DPS added to OH with 1.5 weapon +SnD: 6.06
Mutilate damage added
The trinket also adds to my mutilate damage like so:
MH non crit: +7
OH non-crit: +5.25
MH crit /w lethality: +16.1
OH crit /w lethality: +12.1
Average damage added to MH mutilate /w 25% crit: (7*0.75)+(16.1*0.25) = 9.25
Average damage added to OH mutilate /w 25% crit: (5.25*0.75)+(12.1*0.25) = 6.94
Adding these to get the average amount of damage added to mutilate gives 16.19. Assuming you mutilate to the max (every 6 seconds) and never use finishing moves (lol) the trinket adds 2.7 DPS to mutilate - obviously this number is artificially high since you mutilate less often than once every 6 seconds but I cba to work that out.
Adding the mut and white damage numbers:
6.29+6.06+"2.7" = a bit less than 15.05 DPS for the +7 damage part with my daggers and 25% crit
The "on use" portion gives 216AP for 10 seconds on a one minute cooldown. Spamming it whenever it's up is an average of 36AP, although you can "time it right" and let your energy fill up before clicking it to get maximum use out of this (the fast CD makes this trinket ideal for battlegroups btw). I dunno how to work out how much DPS 36AP would give to a rogue with my gear/spec, but I assume it's like 1-3ish making the grand total DPS about 16, with a margin of error of about no more than +/-4 (assuming you remember to click it once a minute!).
Is this any good compared to other trinkets?
I got out the bleedo spreadsheet and unequiped my trinkets, then put other trinkets there and recorded how much my DPS went up. Here's the results (don't have romulo's, my spreadsheet is a little old)
Abacus of Violent Odds: +21.5 DPS
Bladefists Breadth: 15.1
Hourglass of the Unraveller: 19.6
Bloodlust Brooch: 23.8
(I'm trusting the people who made the spreadsheet to be right. I have roughly half and half Kara gear and blues btw)
Therefore, it is only a very mild upgrade over Bladefist's Breadth for my gear/spec, and is beaten by the easy to get abacus and hourglass.
..........
The trinket is worse than I calculated for sword/fist/mace rogues, since 1) your MH is slower and 2) you SS for 40 energy while I mutilate twice for 60 energy (although my OH suffers a penalty...). I'm not sure if this trinket is best for 41/20/0 or for 15/41/5 daggers (since for this spec you will usually use a very fast OH, and you will have more crits), but it may be a moot point if it sucks as much as my maths suggests.
Druids, you do not get more benefit from this than do dagger rogues. 1.0 attack speed is not as fast as a dagger rogue with SnD running, although if you have crappy trinkets it may still be an upgrade. Arms warriors and retadins, stay waaaaaay clear.
评论来自
Thottbot
Abacus:
+64 AP, +24.7% haste on-use (10 sec, 2 min CD).
24.7%/12 = 2.1% average haste. This boosts white damage and clearcasting procs (which give two free yellow attacks per minute unhasted). White attacks account for ~40% of catform damage, and clearcasting yellow attacks another ~8%. .48 * 2.1% = a scaling 1% damage increase.
At 2500 AP the +64 on-equip bonus gives another 2.56% increase. So at this gear level the Abacus is a 3.56% boost. It'd be more of a % boost at lower AP levels since 64 will make more of a difference.
Bloodlust Brooch:
+72 AP, +278 AP on-use (20 sec, 2 min CD)
278/6 = 46 AP on average, for a total of 118 AP.
At 2500 AP Bloodlust Brooch is a 4.72% boost.
Crystalforged Trinket:
+7 weapon dmg, +216 AP on-use (10 sec, 1 min CD).
If all catform DPS came from our 1.0 speed attack then +7 damage would = 98 AP. However +weapon dmg does not boost the damage from finishers (rip, bite), which account for about 25% of feral damage. So +7 damage is more like 74 AP.
216/6 = another 36 AP on average, for a total of 110 AP.
At 2500 AP the Crystalforged Trinket is a 4.4% boost.
Hourglass of the Unraveller:
+32 crit rating, chance of +300 AP on crit.
Per Druidic mathematician Emmerald's calculations, at level 70 with appropriate talents 1.4975 crit rating contributes the same dps as 1 AP.
32 crit rating * 1.4975 = 48 AP.
The Hourglass has a 10% chance to proc on crit, which would provide 2 procs per minute with 33% crit chance, however there's a hidden cooldown. The consensus is that the effective rate is 1 proc per minute.
300/6 = another 50 AP, for a total of 98 AP.
At 2500 AP this is a 3.92% boost. So yes, at this gear-level it's better than the Abacus, but not as good as the CT or the Brooch.
Summary:
(For a gear-level of 2500 AP.)
Bloodlust Brooch:
+4.72% damage
Crystalforged Trinket:
+4.40% damage
Dragonspine Trophy:
+4.11% damage (see below)
Hourglass of the Unraveller:
+3.92% damage
Abacus of Violent Odds:
+3.56% damage
评论来自
Thottbot
Would this be good for a dual weilding fury warrior? Or should I go with bloodlust brooch instead?
评论来自
Thottbot
is this item any good for hunter's? i want to know if it increases ranged weapon damage, coz if it does then i'll definitely get it to boost my DPS, other wise i'll just run Black Morass for the hourglass
评论来自
Thottbot
This is my new favourite trinket! And here's why...
Its one-minute cool down and a macro to trigger it.
Always forgetting to manually use the trinkets you got? I do. Try this nugget of code on for size:
/use Crystalforged Trinket
/cast nameofopeningattack
Then swap in this macro's icon to where the attack icon formerly was. Now that's a nice start to any fight and it'll be ready for you again before you know it. If the trinket is not ready when you press, you'll just get "item not ready" and your attack follows through like normal.
And, as mentioned before, equipping offers +7 to min-max
damage-range
but I'm finding around +30ish when activating! (Combat log reflects you 'Gaining Valour', passing GO, and collecting 200gold.)
评论来自
Thottbot
can you get this on a twink?
评论来自
Thottbot
im aiming to get this on my enhancement shaman, can't figure out how to get to Ogri'la XD. Guess cause i heven't been there since i hit 70. Anyways nice trinket that seems it would stack nicely w/ the +3 damage meta. And i assume it works for hunters since the weapon damage ring enchants also work for em.
评论来自
Thottbot
i can tell you this for a survival hunter with 35% chance to crit and a slow crossbow (3.10 sec) this trinket is equivalent as the +7damage scope. so if u crit for 800 with 1 arcane shot with this trinket ur crits will go for 850-900.
if u crit a lot like me and u have a slow weapon this may be your trinket.
I dont care about white damage since my white damage is only about 15-25% of my damage, i get better results with the s1 crossbow than the one for 150 badges with 12 more dps.
with the scope of +10-12 damage and this trinket ur crits will hit for a lot more.
talents improve ur crit damage, meta improve ur crit damage when u add all that i can tell you in full s1 i can crit with my arcane shot over 1.8 and this happen pretty much every 1 of 3 shot i hit including white shot.
for a warrior with a super slow weapon this trink will work fine as well.
if your attack are base of weapon damage you will find this trinket better than many others.
评论来自
Thottbot
lol, why do you think slow weapons are QQ with this wep? as an example, 1.00 wep speed gives this a white 7 dps before armor reduction. A 2.00 wep speed would only get 3.5 dps. I'm not into coding so I'm not sure if Im right...?
And if white dmg really only is 25% of your dmg then this trinket is crap imo. 7 wep dmg doesnt scale that's why. A trinket with AP as passive effect would scale with everything...
And you cant compare trinks to scopes btw.
评论来自
Thottbot
What is to stop a twink from being summonned there, joining a party of 4 70's and then killing "Eye of Shartuul" enough times to get rep from the kill alone?
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Porowl
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i made a 3 minute guide for 19, 29, 39 etc twinks looking to get this trinket! it's actually SUPER easy..
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